Here is my Giants- Eagles Breakdown. It took me a while creating this. Hope you guys enjoy this. It took me from after the game sunday to last night to complete this.
Link to the PDF version for easier reading or printing it out. 5.19 MB
http://savefile.com/projects/808578341
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Formation Page - The formation page lists the different formations by our offense during the game. The number in the box given is also listed in the film breakdown sheet. So if you see for offensive formation 2, refer to the formation page for that formation.
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Film Breakdown Sheets - Show a log of information of Down-distance, hash, offensive formation, and other key info.
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Runs Vs the Eagles - I took some run plays I liked or saw from the game and diagramed them out
- I wrote descriptions for each of the run plays as well. Few of them were just descriptions and there are no diagrams for them
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Pass plays Vs the Eagles - I took some of the pass plays and basically used it to study the blitzes our offense had to deal with.
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Play by Play Sheets - This includes every play penalty or not, and has them diagramed out. 8 pages of that, for 64 plays, INCLUDING penalties.
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Front Composite - This sheet gives us what techniques, were being played throughout the game. I divided this into hashes, zones, and down and distances to help us examine trends. Also listed what they were in, nickel, even front, odd front and so on. I also included stunts and who was stunting
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Blitz Composite - This helps us understand where the blitzes were coming, and where they were being called on the field. Left Hash, Middle Hash, and so on. Also, I indicated who was coming on the particular play.
PAST BREAKDOWNS(Not as detailed)
Giants-Vikings Game
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15314
Giants-Eagles Game ( Offense and defense for the giants until half time)
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15054
finally some true FOOTBALL insight. ty anish
Thats what she said!
You are lining out your legacy. A true asset to this board. Please, don't ever leave us.
Hell of an effort on this.
Again, great breakdown without having the coaches tape.
thanks again for a breath of FRESH air
mattyb233 : 4:02 pm
are you a scout, or are you currently working for a college/pro football team? If you prefer to keep that quiet, just say so, and I'll assume yes. If you aren't, you need to start getting paid for your work...
I am a college D3 coach. I coach TEs, and currently waiting for spring ball, so applying to other programs and just enjoying football now, that the season is over, and I can actually breathe.
Imagine playing on Friday night. Trying to scout an opponent live on Saturday, then spending Saturday night and Sunday breaking down as many as three films in the manner that Anish did this one, then analyzing the data and putting it all together into a game play by Monday.
Such is the life of a coach during the season.
Awesome stuff.
So, will Eli be fine?
mattyb233 : 4:13 pm
You seem to have a bright future ahead of you, and a lot of ambition...How did you get involved in coaching? Former player? College? Special classes? Someone obviously taught you extremely well.
I loved the Giants, and loved the game, so basically keep an open mind, and learn as much as you can from people. Also, helps being the youngest on my staff, so just learned alot from my other position coaches. Pretty soon you see the game as Xs and Os and not as a fan or media type. That's the biggest step, in my opinion, in learning this great game.
notoriousc : 4:12 pm
I would love Anish's post. Just print a few of his reports on the giants and your works done !!!!![quote]
I am sure teams know this, but the issue becomes what formation do we run the play out of, and how we draw it up against their defense. For instance we double teamed the 3 technique this time, but who knows against the bills, we can do something else. So they can try their best to scout us, but that's the fun part of the chess game. We give them different formations and then run the same stuff out of it.
thanks anish! you're the man!
You guys are real impressed with this but it's just a single game break down. Anish probably does two to three of these a week. If he doesn't there is someone on staff who does.
I usually do three games a week during the season, but there are times I break down 4.
After a few years you can do them much quicker than when you start out, but it's still very time consuming.
Once you've broken the game down, the work has just begun.
Compiling and analyzing the data from two or three games is next.
Then you have to decide what your path will be for the week, then devise the specific game plan for each side of the ball.
Considering you have until Monday's practice to do all of this, weekend evenings are at a premium.
There is very little time to celebrate a win or mourn a loss.
I salute your work ethic!
At this point in my life, I'm too damned burned out to break down games beyond those that are required to do the job well.
Working on the field is the gravy and the games are the dessert.
Call me nuts.
Dorgan
I know what you mean
Dorgan:
don't forget calling in the game stats on Friday night to the papers after the game...before midnight, of course,
then doing all what you said and having the game film from the last game ready to watch with the players on Monday all broken down play by play .. they never sleep
then sitting in all the new stuff for next week
the actual game goes by in a blur
Coaches, good coaches, are worth their weight in good
Thank you very much.
but i'm calling you out.
you may be the master of copy and paste
but i'll figure out how you got a hold of my notes and what not and i'll be damned if i see you do it again
rot in hades man!!! hell hath no vengeance like a true psychotic genius scorned
yours is pretty good too
Of course, I won't need to be this thorough, hell, I'd just confuse the kids, but I can see where some of the "real stuff" can help me understand what I'll need to be aware of when teaching my boys.
Good luck to you and thanks for the effort.
and what would you think of toomer (boss in the slot) (shocky right slot) buress...the thinking being that eli has connected with these guys well, they can block well for the formentioned run from spread and the average heights prsent a match up situation on certain routes especially. Another question is which run plays might be more to the advantage of a bradshaw with his additional shiftyness. saw bj head for the pile a few times there.
I would imagine this next one is the game to pull out all the stops play calling wise.
freebluelove : 9:47 pm
thsnk you. If you are still here could you discuss the shotgun spread formatio? - people seem to be warming to the run from the spread (first question) idea -
and what would you think of toomer (boss in the slot) (shocky right slot) buress...the thinking being that eli has connected with these guys well, they can block well for the formentioned run from spread and the average heights prsent a match up situation on certain routes especially. Another question is which run plays might be more to the advantage of a bradshaw with his additional shiftyness. saw bj head for the pile a few times there.
I would imagine this next one is the game to pull out all the stops play calling wise
So double slot, and have Toomer, Shockey, Boss and Plax right? Jacobs in the backfield next to Eli? Does that sound right?
Not to mention Gilbride runs a strong pro style offense, based on I formations, and a lot of variations of it. I am convinced if he had his way, we'd stick with I pro right, left, Big I, strong and weak I, and not leave it.
....or boss runs a short crossing route )fast) to cause a pile up in the flat (the pick) and jacobs takes the ball sharply the other direction.
question; how often are the more complex bocking schemes used during shotgun sets...if not why not....?
the spread forces the D to disperse and some were hoping this would get jacobs isolated on single lbs or better yet cbs...now BJ might be slowing a bit for now late in the season with the hammy but
..but the classic run blocking schemes as slated seemed a better fit for Ward - a quick guy to the hole type runner...bradshaw might be able to do BOTH styles but can he pick up the blitz is the question.
Game before last Eli ran about 9 yards for a 1st down from the spread I think.
Game before last Eli ran about 9 yards for a 1st down from the spread I think.
oh yea, and Warren Moon.
btw, no TE on that team if I remember correctly.
he has been a stellar blocker early in the season picking up blitzes and just hammering them....
eli seems to love having lots or recievers and really made some decisive short throws in preseason I think from formations like this...I am fairly sure we saw some really nice first downs near the red zone in preseason this way as well.
yes it is a VERY scary high risk formation...
but it would seem to force alot of decisions onto a D that the power formations just don't.
...it is utterly less predictable...
and for that play would be putting the things really in the hands of Eli and (probably toomer or burress)the more one gets away with it the greater the chance it opens things up
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would that leave zero lbs back and only one safety?
I would then in that case split the TEs all the way out wide taking those two defenders out of the running and blitzing scenarios
so if they put 6 on the line plus the 4 'man on' near the line that is almost a totally empty backfield for burress to juke or an isolation scenario for shocky to bull through as examples...when have we seen shocky not be pulled down by five guys this year?
scary for them as well
but they certainly dont want 3 out of the 4 of
shocky, boss, burress and toomer
being in a one on one with no linebackers around and no safety...they are all out wide so pick your poison
I.m thinking the safety has to go for burress if he goes long..
so I could easily see one of them, maybe Boss taking a short pass such as a quick semi-underneath crossing route to the house on this one with the other guys blocking if need be
in a mix up from last weeks td
Just curious (for Anish, dorgan and other coaches), does this stuff go into a database at all? It seems to me that it could be useful to put into a database to find patterns with visualization software. I know it won't replace regular analysis, but it may come up with a pattern that isn't easily visible.
That thing needs to be fixed. It's hard to know exactly without sitting in on their meetings and watching their practices. But Eli will be fine, it's the system I worry about more. If Eli fails it would be because this franchise didn't surround himself with the proper coaches on the offensive side of the ball. Ben had Whisenhunt, Rivers and Brees had Cam C. Who did we have? Huffy, who is now in Cananda. And our qb coach was Gilbride who last held that position when he was with the Oilers in '89. In my opinion we failed to surround him with good coaches.
Gilbride is a step above Huffy, but overall I am not really a fan of him. I love his running plays, but still I think when you invest in a pick and a qb like Eli, you better be damn prepared by giving him everything so he can have a chance to succeed. Surpisingly even through all this, we still make the playoffs, which shows me he has a lot of potential.
...what did he do to get our guys open when here an what has he been doing now?
Have not followed really but remember some nice open long routes when he was here. Think I remember someone saying they let Collins go for first read only towards the end of that year (vikings game?)...eli seems much smarter than collins..that must play into things