Foxsports-Giants/Saints reach a deal for Shockey?

more than the passing game. With S. Smith the Giants will go to more 3-wide and less 2 TE

Thanks for the info. Looks like you were spot on.

Jacobs became a very good blocker as the year went on.
I wouldn't use him like they used Shockey, but Jacobs is a monster and I could see him as a very good blocker and it's another way to get him and Bradshaw on the field at the same time.

He really wasn't utilized to his full potential in the passing game under Coughlin.

With Smith coming on and now Mannghim in the wings, Eli has only so many balls to go around...

Those grapes ain't all sour....

That's just silly.

I think you nailed it...When Shockey managed to hold onto a pass, how many times did you see him turn around and just go to the ground...he showed none of the explosiveness he had in his first few years.

a lot more three wide sets this year.

I'm glad the Giants got a 2nd for him. It's clear that he needed to be dealt. This was an oil and vinegar situation that would have caused a major distraction the team did not need in their attempt to repeat. Boss will surprise a lot of folks but, at least right now, he doesn't have the talent that Shockey showed a couple of years back. In the end, I think all will be fine.

with the players that Reese takes in next year's 2nd and 5th rounds. The New Giants Dynasty just got ahead of schedule.

new contract very soon.

It will be interesting to see what Shockey says when he does go. My bet is the NY media will miss him the most.

Is having the talent on the field with a player that is often injured/slowing down/doesn't want to play for NY, better than NOT having the issues he would bring to the locker room? I think we are forgetting that Shockey was not nearly the guy we saw as a rookie. I hate to say it, but I think not having the distraction will benefit the Giants more than having his talent on the field.

next year?

'Shock'ed is the only way to describe it. Philcore, I have 2 shockey jerseys as well, looks like they are going to the back of the closet with #21. I'm gonna miss Shock, but I'm not gonna miss the drama that surrounds him. Boss, Darcy and MM better be ready.

Drew Brees' Fantast stock just shot up.

Thanks for the memories #80.

But I prefer the picks over Taylor.

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the Saints tight ends last year (Johnson and Miller) combined for 75 receptions, 706 yards and 4td.

Shockey had 57 receptions, 619 yards and 3 td's last year.

in the regular season with 440 last year. He completed over 67% of his passes. Without a Shockey type TE the offense is designed for. Most 1st downs and best 3rd down conversion, NFL record for completions a 67% completion rate and now they have Shockey. Plus its going to free Bush up. N.O. will have the best offense in the NFC next year. Better then the Boys.

but can we hold back from comments like this:

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When Shockey managed to hold onto a pass, how many times did you see him turn around and just go to the ground...he showed none of the explosiveness he had in his first few years.

Shockey is gone it appears. Let's not make him out to be either the best player ever to wear blue or that he was some sort of liability on the field.

If we didn't play the Saints this year, I'd feel better about the trade. But even then, I think we will have a glaring need at blocking, and we will have to utilize 1-dimensional TE's to do the two jobs shockey did well.

that Dallas, Philly, and Washington have added I am starting to get very nervous about all the subtractions our team has made. Everyone in the NFC East has made efforts to bolster their rosters except the Giants.

My main concern is when we play Dallas. Shockey always stretched the field against them which opened things up for other guys. I don't see Boss being able to do the same. I hope I am wrong.

Who are the big TE's to watch in college football this year? I only know the University of Miami's roster and they don't have anything coming out next year.

Fantasy stock got higher, but only for the first few games until Shock re-injures himself. By the way, he still isn't ready to practice 100 % yet.

Why?

Kiwi can go to LB.

Tuck can move around.

Jacobs has lined up at WR for us before.

Shockey has been split out wide.

You guys act like a guy can only do one thing for a football team.

I guess you scratch your heads every time Vrabel catches a TD from Tom Brady too.

Please god--no!

Bingo!

JS gone keeps this team focused on repeating & not fiddling for answers as to why their TE isn't on the field with them.

it had to be done. We have 5 WRs and Boss behind Plax - they will ease the burden in the passing game. The emergence of Steve Smith as a legit #2 becomes all the more important as well.

I'm relieved.

But how about Reese sticking to his guns, not caving in, and eventually getting his way??? Wow...

BJac..

I think inside the team there really was a feeling (after the play-off run without Shockey) that his talent and contribution to the team was far outweighed by his devisive, distration-prone, spoiled child personna. You must factor in his failure to work-out with the team offseason, his obvious displeasure with his role, his many and significant injuries, his dropped passes, and his disrespect for the leadership of his young quaterback. I AM GLAD TO SEE HIM GO. A spoiled brat makes it hard for the committed guys to stay on task and solidify as one cohesive unit.

get that pick up.

then I can say that I'm a little disappointed that things between the Giants and Shockey didn't work out. Shockey is still a very good TE and his blocking abilities (all around TE) will be missed to a degree. However, if he was/is going to be detrimental to the team and he's truly unhappy here then it is a wise decision to move him. Wish him the best.

Giants will and can win with or without him.

That Shockey forced his way off the Giants? There's no way the Giants would have traded him if he wanted to play for them. The Saints have as much chance of picking 1st in the 2nd round as they do last. No one knows at this point who the playoff teams will be. In 07 the Cowboys thought they stole a top 10 or even top 5 08 pick from the Browns and it wound up in the 20's. Save the nonsense about it being close to a 3rd rounder. No one knows. This was the best trade out there for a player who was going to try to do to the Giants what Owens did the to the Eagles. The Giants won't miss him on 3rd and 2 either. They'll bring in another linemen. They'll miss him more on 3rd and 10. He will be missed on the field but he forced his way off the team. So good luck in NO until he breaks down again, which won't take long.

shit

...because he knew he'd be blamed by the press and a lot of fans if the Giants didn't repeat as SB champs. As far as he's concerned, there was no upside for him to stay.

Shockey is probably too sensitive, but F the media for constantly ragging on him like he's some sort of criminal. You'd think the guy was Pac Man Jones with some of the crap that was writen about him by the beat writers and some posters here.

When we have three guys on the roster (Matthews, Johnson and Boss) who all have potential.

that is going to be a scary good offense this year. They have to be considered a major contender in the NFC.

Thanks for the memories.

Eli Manning's team. No Tiki, Strahan or shockey. These are Eli Manning's Giants

and criticize eli and coughlin?

It would take some balls now though, considering they just one the Superbowl without him.

I just want that draft pick to be the 1st pick in the 2nd round.

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Show me where the Giants and the Siants play this coming season?
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nothing against them but a high second is worth more.

was correct. He could not have been a happy camper....

I always thought eventually, he'd see the light. But, he didn't, so we move on. This leaves us great flexibility for next yr's draft. We still have more than enough weapons in Plax, Toomer, Jacobs, Bradshaw, Boss, Ward, Manningham, Moss, etc. etc. etc.

WE NOW KNOW NO DOUBT SHOCKEY WAS A DISTRACTION TO ELI PERFORMANCE

Gotcha, makes perfect sense. I misunderstood.

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just curious. How many times did you scan up and down that schedule to make sure you were right before you posted that link?? ;-)

The Giants agree. The PR machine has been working towards this as well. Pat Hanlon is good at his job. The moment that arguement with Reese was leaked to Vinnie DiTrani, in my mind, that was the beginning of Shockey's obit on the Giants. They were painting him as a malcontent not happy with the team, and his actions did nothing to change it. Throw in Plaxico, Strahan, and Tuck's comments about moving him on if he doesn't want to be there...and Reese's eerily similar statement in the press this morning, Shockey was a goner, it was a matter of when. The next key, let's see what happens with Shockey's contract in New Orleans, and how fast he either gets a new deal, or they agree to guarentee parts in his remaining salary.

We weren't able to get a first rounder out of it so a second rounder was just as good. Shockey hasn't played a 16 game season yet so this might end up being a steal for us.