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Thomas : 7/26/2008 2:10 pm
Kirwan and Cross are there.

Talking to Tyree right now.

Kirwan said he's been very impressed with Anthony Wright. Says he looks like he could "keep the team afloat" for a month if he needed to.

Kirwan then RAVING about Kenny Phillips. Is blown away by his range. Tyree agreed. They were almost giggling about it.

Talking about the TEs  
Thomas : 7/26/2008 2:11 pm : link
Kirwan says Boss runs deceptively well for a 6'6" guy. Tyree said he's got a "good stride". Tyree says Johnson looking good, too.
Deleted my thread  
TRJoe : 7/26/2008 2:13 pm : link
will post here.

David Tyree on now...

Tim Ryan has referred to Tyree as 'dog' and 'daddy o'

Still working on getting his knee back

Talks about how its a nice motivation for them that everyone is picking Dallas again.

Team is fueled by playing the underdog role again

Coughlin has not softened up, has become wise

All three are impressed so far by Anthony Wright

Amani Toomer with the high white socks; he never slows down; very polished, technique-oriented

Pat Kirwan is raving about Kenny Phillips' range. Tyree agrees

Tim Ryan "Eli is most unfairly criticized QB in football". Tyree - Eli is on fire. He's comfortable, polished.

Kirwan brings up Shockey, "Good player, gave his dimension"; Tyree says we can shut-down the Shockey talk. Time to move on, Boss is more than capable. A good fit for the offense.

That's all for Tyree.
Reese  
Thomas : 7/26/2008 2:15 pm : link
and Tuck coming up.
Cross on Tuck:  
Thomas : 7/26/2008 2:15 pm : link
Dude's a "Man child"!
Kirwan says  
Thomas : 7/26/2008 2:18 pm : link
about D:

Again mentioned Kenny Phillips: Will be in starting lineup soon. (Says probably will replace James Butler.) He can make it look like the sideline is available to the QB, when it isn't. Incredible range.

Overall, what he saw on D in the AM:

Blitzes are synched up well. Coming from all angles. A lot of variety, everything looks sound and smooth.
Their thoughts on the morning practice  
TRJoe : 7/26/2008 2:21 pm : link
The team has an attitude, no Super Bowl hangover. Reflection of Coughlin.

Lots of blitzing on the first day. 10 fire-zone blitzes.

Good timing, rhythm, and variety from the defense.

Kenny Phillips - not in starting lineup yet, but will be soon. They love his range. Great ability to tease the QB to throw the ball outside, then to use his speed to get to the ball. Phillips is a definite upgrade. Phillips has no problem with the mental aspect.

They like Tuck inside on passing downs, with Kiwanuka lined up at DE. They like Tuck's athletic ability. Can Kiwanuka adjust to different offensive packages (3 wide, etc)? That is the question with him.
Knocking our OLB's a bit.  
Thomas : 7/26/2008 2:24 pm : link
Kirwan says Kiwi is too high cut for OLB. Says teams can switch strongsides, get Kiwi at an ILB position and get an OG on him, and he'll have trouble disengaging.

On Clark, Kirwan says he's good read/react, but he'll struggle in space. Giants are dissappointed in Wilkinson.

Says Manningham dropped a TD this AM.
man these guys get me pumped  
hollywood blue : 7/26/2008 2:24 pm : link
haha im ready
They love  
TRJoe : 7/26/2008 2:26 pm : link
Amani Toomer. Beat Webster on a long pass for a TD again this morning.

Both think Moss is odd man out. Manningham dropped a TD today. Expect Smith's role to expand, as many here on BBI do. More 3 wide formations.

Eli Manning is on the Tom Brady program. Develops his body more and more each year. Looks stronger. Good ball velocity. Tight spirals this morning.
jerry reese coming up?  
hollywood blue : 7/26/2008 2:27 pm : link
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today  
MookGiants : 7/26/2008 2:33 pm : link
alone makes the price of sirius worth it. Just great stuff
Here's Reese:  
Thomas : 7/26/2008 2:34 pm : link
On TEs: Mike Matthews - blocker. Boss - receiver. Will improve as blocker. Johnson - big strong kid. Can catch, and block some. They like Jerome Collins -- big, thick and can work at the H-Back.

Says Boss has "a gigantic strike zone". QB-friendly.

Comfort level with Boss.


On Kenny Phillips  
Thomas : 7/26/2008 2:35 pm : link
Kirwan raving about him AGAIN.

Reese: He can get over the top really quick. Range. Size. Smart. They expect him to be a really good football player for them, for a long time. They really like him.

Reese on DTs:  
Thomas : 7/26/2008 2:38 pm : link
Robbins, Alford, Cofield. Good rotation. Alford - pass rusher. Robbins - can do both. Thought he had a Pro Bowl season 2 years ago. Cofield - run stuffer.

Kirwan says no one knew how hurt Cofield was at the end of the year. "Was playing on pure guts." Reese agreed. They didn't clarify.

Kiwi to DE: If there's an injury, he can go back full-time. But coaches like his versatility at OLB.


Kirwan  
joeFootball : 7/26/2008 2:39 pm : link
said Cofield was injured pretty bad at end of last season.
i am listening to it  
Jints in Carolina : 7/26/2008 2:40 pm : link
and friggin love it...Sirius is the best!
On Kiwi:  
Thomas : 7/26/2008 2:41 pm : link
Very coachable. Never complains. Just does what he's asked.


On Sinorice Moss: Likes guys with something to prove. Moss does. They are looking for big plays. Expect him to grow.

Kirwan said he ran a picture perfect out-and-up, ROASTED Aaron Ross, and dropped the bomb.

Reese says he needs to "get that little voice out of his head" when he's on the field, telling him to score a TD every play. "Relax, let the game come to you."
Reese on  
Thomas : 7/26/2008 2:42 pm : link
Wilkinson:

His knee is killing him. He's bugging the trainers to play. They are telling him to wait 1 week.

They think his speed and activity adds a lot to the defense.
Thomas & Co. - great thread  
WeatherMan : 7/26/2008 2:44 pm : link
really appreciate the play by play for those of us lacking the Sirius, thanks fellas
...need siruis....  
Therethere : 7/26/2008 2:45 pm : link
now....
Reese on Hixon:  
Thomas : 7/26/2008 2:46 pm : link
Hixon has jumped out. Will get a shot at WR.


Nickel defense:

Osi RE
Tuck inside
Alford inside
Kiwi LE

Pierce LB
Wilkinson LB

Dockery the nickel
Ross and Webster CB
Johnson S ("He's gonna be a good football player, remember that name.")
Butler or Phillips

(Interesting that Dockery is the #3 CB right now, I wouldn't have guessed that.)


raved about Michael Johnson  
Jints in Carolina : 7/26/2008 2:46 pm : link
says he is a player to watch....also loves Hixon as a WR
kirwan  
joeFootball : 7/26/2008 2:48 pm : link
was salivating over our depth in the secondary, "we can load up a dime".
Sounds like  
Thomas : 7/26/2008 2:48 pm : link
those wanting a Phillips and Johnson S duo are gonna be happy.
geemanfan on now  
hollywood blue : 7/26/2008 2:51 pm : link
expect an update from him
Sal from NY  
TRJoe : 7/26/2008 2:52 pm : link
nice call. Nice analogy on Eli's growth and development, "from a nerdy kid to a man".

I guess we have to pray for Wilkonson  
G_V_P 4 MVP : 7/26/2008 2:52 pm : link
Seems like they really have high expectations for him
Kirwan  
joeFootball : 7/26/2008 2:54 pm : link
said he saw the D bringing 7 and 8 man pressure "the quarterback is going to get whacked"
Thanks  
geemanfan : 7/26/2008 2:54 pm : link
TRjoe
Talking about Spagnuolo  
TRJoe : 7/26/2008 2:55 pm : link
and potential head coaching opportunities. Pat Kirwan is "close friends" with Steve. Feels he still wants to learn things about being a coordinator. He just loves to coach. If he turned down the Redskins, he will turn down anyone.
I wonder how Sam Madison  
Therethere : 7/26/2008 2:55 pm : link
feels about his demotion.

Seriously. He's a good dude, knows he's old, got his ring... but now a backup?
Kirwan  
Thomas : 7/26/2008 2:58 pm : link
says Gilbride is running Run & Shoot principles "all over the place" with the additional 4 WR packages.

Hixon is that 4th WR right now.
You  
joeFootball : 7/26/2008 3:05 pm : link
can tell that Pat and Tim love this team after watching the morning practice.
Is Robert Henderson a dark horse?  
hollywood blue : 7/26/2008 3:09 pm : link
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Pierce  
Thomas : 7/26/2008 3:10 pm : link
told Cross and Kirwan that Robert Henderson has caught his eye.

Kirwan: Woodson fixed his delivery from what they saw at the Senior Bowl.

One of the vet CBs is getting cut if Terrell Thomas shows up.

Cross on Tuck: "Wow. Physically, wow!!"

Best Athlete on Team:

Kirwan: Osi Umenyiora
They are very high on this team  
geemanfan : 7/26/2008 3:11 pm : link
And the improvement of our secondary. They feel Kenny Phillips can be a starter from day 1. Another name that I keep hearing about is Henderson, could this kid be a huge surprise? I cant wait to get up there on Wed!
wait  
MookGiants : 7/26/2008 3:12 pm : link
someone fill me in, Terrell Thomas isn't at camp yet? What am I missing here?
ThereThere  
2teamfan : 7/26/2008 3:13 pm : link
you can sign up to listen to Sirius online only and you can listen to Sirius NFL all day at work!

lurker...too afraid to post...
Mook TT is there  
G_V_P 4 MVP : 7/26/2008 3:14 pm : link
There talking about showing up playing great wise
More on Tuck  
Thomas : 7/26/2008 3:14 pm : link
Kirwan: Tuck is stout vs. an OG when he needs to be, beats them with quickness, and can also drop.

Stabs the guard and drops into the hook zone. Deadly weapon, hard to see as a QB is trained to look downfield. Is athletic enough to play some man, too.

Very rare skillset, rare athlete.
Mook  
geemanfan : 7/26/2008 3:14 pm : link
Thomas is there.
I was going to say  
MookGiants : 7/26/2008 3:17 pm : link
I missed that part of the interview so I was just going on this thread, and I thought I was going crazy when I saw someone say once Thomas shows up. I took it as he's not there or something, even though I read yesterday about him in reports haha. Sorry about that dumb moment from me
Amani!!!  
hollywood blue : 7/26/2008 3:19 pm : link
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Any more updates guys?  
G_V_P 4 MVP : 7/26/2008 3:22 pm : link
What are they saying...
Toomer  
geemanfan : 7/26/2008 3:23 pm : link
On now.
Another update I forgot to post, for the guys that  
geemanfan : 7/26/2008 3:27 pm : link
Don't have sirius. Wilkinson wants to practice but is being held back by the doctors, he keeps telling the Coaches he is ready, but the doctors feel it's best to give him another week.
Toomer  
joeFootball : 7/26/2008 3:29 pm : link
said coach Coughlin connected with the players with honesty.
Toomer  
Thomas : 7/26/2008 3:30 pm : link
Talking about Gilbride's knowledge of the Run & Shoot.

On TT and KP:

Phillips is a real rangy S. His S break is great. Can get from the middle 1/3 to the sideline.

Added dimension they didn't have last year.

(Man everyone seems to like this guy.)

On Terrell Thomas: Real competitive guy.

On Boss: Potential to get better. Eli confident in him.

On Eli: Worked on his accuracy. Putting the ball in the right spots. Has more confidence in receivers.

Kirwan and Cross saying Eli on the "Brady Strength Program". Looks more physical than ever. Bigger. Stronger.

Toomer says he can fine tune things like that now that he's comfortable with the offense.
Toomer  
joeFootball : 7/26/2008 3:31 pm : link
Eli was just more accurate and made great decisions down the strech last year
More from Toomer  
Thomas : 7/26/2008 3:34 pm : link
Sinorice Moss: Needs opportunities. Fell behind because of injuries. Pressing.
Love Amani, great guy, great attitude  
hollywood blue : 7/26/2008 3:36 pm : link
Sounds like he thinks Moss is pressing too much as well.
DJ Hall  
TRJoe : 7/26/2008 3:45 pm : link
These guys said he was pretty impressive this morning.

Was driving before, and these guys were praising Tuck. Not sure if it was mentioned, but Tim Green goes, "Justin Tuck is a bitch to deal with in the middle." Both are big proponents of Tuck lining up in the middle on passing downs.
they are playing  
MookGiants : 7/26/2008 3:46 pm : link
We are the champions right now, friggin awesome!
ok... ralph next...  
hollywood blue : 7/26/2008 3:48 pm : link
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Ralph: Unique  
Thomas : 7/26/2008 3:54 pm : link
mentality from a Super Bowl Champion. As early as the next morning they slipped right back into their underdog roles. Felt disrespected. Felt people calling them flukes.

Hardest part of defending a Super Bowl is losing hunger. Complacency. Giants have avoided that.

Kirwan says he doesn't think a LB can cover Boss.



Ralph Vacchiano  
TRJoe : 7/26/2008 3:58 pm : link
Pulse/Mentality of the Giants - they are amazing. Feel they have been disrespected about being champions. Started day after the Super Bowl.

"The offseason insults motivate us"

Tight ends - Shockey will be missed on the field. Smith will get his passes. Similar to Dallas Clark/Brandon Stokley in Indy a few years back. Concern is now the safety in the coverage configuration. Teams may roll to Plax now, and leave Boss with a linebacker.

According to Ralph, it's good that Shockey is gone. Due to the off field crap. He can be a cartoon character sometimes.

Plax contract - fairly close. A little of both with Burress not practicing, the ankle and the contract.

These guys would give Plax nice money, but on a short term deal. Think the injuries can be chronic. Put playing time/practice incentives in the deal.



Diehl coming up.  
Thomas : 7/26/2008 3:58 pm : link
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yeah mentioned the double teams Shockey commanded  
hollywood blue : 7/26/2008 4:01 pm : link
that helped Plax don't know enough about Boss yet to say he can do that. Talking about Plaxes contract nothing we haven't heard before.
Dave Diehl  
TRJoe : 7/26/2008 4:03 pm : link
on now.
Diehl a Coughlin guy  
hollywood blue : 7/26/2008 4:06 pm : link
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Diehl:  
Thomas : 7/26/2008 4:07 pm : link
Coughlin is the key member of the team. He's the leader.
A lot of openness between coaches and players. Everyone's on the same page, no secrets.
More from Diehl  
Thomas : 7/26/2008 4:08 pm : link
on Osi: Unbelievable. Best competition. Tremendous help to Diehl. Close friends. They share with each other to improve technique.
Diehl  
TRJoe : 7/26/2008 4:10 pm : link
New contract, excited to be back at camp.

Coughlin is great leader, always keeps the team motivated. Reaches the team in a multitude of ways. Pulls quotes from books, history, that relate to a football season. Everyone is on the same page, open lines of communication.

These are Coughlin's guys now.

Going up against Osi in practice is great, having to face a Pro Bowler day to day.

Diehl is 317 these days.
shouldn't this thread be stickied?  
hollywood blue : 7/26/2008 4:13 pm : link
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i guess they have to talk to other teams fans to  
hollywood blue : 7/26/2008 4:26 pm : link
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We need more  
geemanfan : 7/26/2008 4:30 pm : link
Giants fans to call in.
ok in every camp they go to do they stay away from interviews  
hollywood blue : 7/26/2008 4:50 pm : link
this long?
ok Tuck next  
hollywood blue : 7/26/2008 4:58 pm : link
.
tuck and o'hara not really saying much  
hollywood blue : 7/26/2008 5:23 pm : link
pierce on showing why he's a coach on the field. You can tell by the formation look at your keys. If the coach is coaching the ml he is coaching everyone.
Thomas where are you?
Sal..wish i heard your call  
DCPollaro : 7/26/2008 5:30 pm : link
im escorting 3 young italian ladies around for the next 15 days...so they dont want to listen to sirius 124
Dean  
MookGiants : 7/26/2008 5:31 pm : link
if you need any help handling 3 young lads, let me know.
Mook  
Jints in Carolina : 7/26/2008 6:13 pm : link
I hope you mean lasses
What I  
jaenyg : 7/26/2008 6:21 pm : link
heard today on Sirius was the best Giants related media stuff Ive ever heard. This is the reason I havent turned on ESPN in years
mook  
DCPollaro : 7/26/2008 6:24 pm : link
you see them on my facebook?
Jints  
MookGiants : 7/26/2008 6:26 pm : link
obviously, a complete brainfart on my opinion. I was going to say ladies, and for some unknown reason, shortened it changing the meaning completely. LOL!

Dean, yes I saw them
Mook needs a weekend with Davisian  
gidiefor : Mod : 7/26/2008 6:26 pm : link
that'll fix him : )
Great stuff  
KWALL : 7/26/2008 6:38 pm : link
Thanks for posting it.

I like the positive comments on Johnson, Phillips ,and Hixon.
I forgot to mention o'hara said pierce knows  
hollywood blue : 7/26/2008 7:03 pm : link
all the calls from the offense. An obvious reference I think to all the picks today lol. He said it was ok though because it makes them better.
HB,  
AnishPatel : 7/26/2008 8:03 pm : link
That happens alot actually. You practice two a days against the first time, and throughout the year, pretty soon the defense knows everything about the offense. This past year the team I coach on, the defense know the cadence, and what we go on. So if we said sunday, or changed it to monday, meaning going on first sound or on 1, they knew all the words. So whatever we said they knew.

Anish, yeah I know which is why I thought it was so funny.  
hollywood blue : 7/26/2008 8:38 pm : link
Pierce did say they got caught once in awhile with dummy calls, they thought it would be a running play and it turned out to be a bootleg.
The proverbial chess match. But yes it definitely favors the defense in this case.
Cofield was injured?  
Klaatu : 7/26/2008 9:15 pm : link
What kind of injury, and when did it happen? I'll assume he's okay now because he's practicing, but if he made last year's run "on guts alone" he's automatically my favorite Giant.
Is this on the net somewhere  
Blue Blood : 7/26/2008 9:34 pm : link
so I could listen to it ??
Great thread Gents....Thank you all  
lono801 : 7/27/2008 4:04 am : link
Lots of great stuff here...
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