I own a software engineering company and we have all our clients domains(300+)managed by go daddy. I told them if they didn't do anything about this... we might move to the TZO service (their competitor)
while you're on a crusade, you can nail Robert Browning that's listed on Whois very easily.
The dumbass used his work email address.
It appears to be a speed shop.
I'll bet the owner will be real pleased he's using his work email address to administer a website with crap like that on it.
"That is truly horrifying and beyond words. Thanks for pointing it out.
I'm torn, at the moment, between posting something and ripping this asshole, and just leaving it alone because I don't want to give him the attention he obviously craves. I forwarded it to my bosses and we're going to discuss what to do with it. I'm going to assume this person doesn't represent everyone in Seattle (though at least a couple of posters seemed to agree with him).
Just out of curiousity, for those of us who are web-illiterate, how did you get his personal information? I might just give him a call.
and he hit the roof. This asshole is their temp IT guy. I told him that the contact info for the site was directly associated to his company and I recommended cutting his guy loose. I made him get on the site and when he saw the picture... he was furious.I then walked him through on how to take this guys administration rights to his server. I really put the scare to him. FYI... the two guys running the site are brothers.
I have a feeling we really don't need to remind you not to make fun of, disrespect and laugh at one of the biggest tragedies to ever happen to our country. This is beyond these guys pissing Ozzie off. This is completely and utterly Un-American.
Great job by everyone that's taken action, and great job by the posters suppporting their action. This goes beyond football, and it's simply sickening to think that these people thought this crap was a good thing to put on a website.
the owner of the site is entirely free to put anything he wants, even if it crosses the line. This is america and we can write and put to action what we can to point out something incredibly insensitive and idiotic that someone else does. I wouldn't try to fire the guy but i would contact the right people to show them what's going on. Good job Ozzie!
but he seems to think that this is smack talking. Normally in sports though, the focus is on the team, and maybe some snide remarks about the city/culture. Generally, people don't bring up events like the 9/11 just to talk some smack.
and if you look at any other thread, there is plenty more to be disgusted about. Look at the first thread that links to a giants site. This is what that asshole wrote....
Q: How many Giants fans died in 9/11?
A: Who the F cares?
Let me guess, Giants fans don't have a sense of humor Mason?
I'm going to assume this person doesn't represent everyone in Seattle
No need to assume - it's a certainty, Ralph. These are a bunch of idiots on the internet on a barren, no-name website who have no relation to anything but their own idiocy. If we're going to become incensed about moronic garbage posted on the internet, we'll need an 8 million GB computer to keep track of it all. Shall we begin with the racist sites or those devoted to pedophilia?
It's obvious that the guy is trying to rile up people some. I'm sure his argument back about crossing the line, is "who decides where the line is of what's tasteful?" Seems like that type. Wouldn't be surprised if he pulled a "my friend died on 9/11, so I'm allowed" crap too.
Not that he shouldn't be allowed to say it, but there can be reprecussions to what you say. He would not say this in person, in NYC. On an internet board, no prob though. That's my complaint, don't type it if you wouldn't speak it in person.
Some people think that 9/11 was somehow a way of humbling New Yorkers. As though people being murdered is some sort of lesson? I don't know what to think of people like that.
to sign his email up to receive NAMBLA's newsletter, and fill his inbox up with as much clutter and penis enlargement advertisements at possible. Aren't there specially designed web-sites where you could do something like that?
I am contacting you because a Google search turned up your name as the resident Seattle beat writer for the Seattle Seahawks.
It was -- forcibly, due to highly offensive "joking" -- brought to many Giants fans attention this week that a certain Seattle Seahawks fan group out there in Washington state has a twisted sense of humor when it comes to what these ingrates euphemistically label trash talking.
And by twisted sense of humor, I mean they find the horrific events of September 11th, 2001 to be absolutely hilarious.
Naturally, this is not indicative of Seattle Seahawks fans. Every sports team attracts its own very small, vocal, embarrassing group of ignorant people. Its the nature of the beast. This, though, is much too far methinks.
To be honest, I'm not exactly what I expect to result of this email. Most likely nothing. The internet is a cesspool of filth, offensiveness, crudeness, and people whom grow exponentially bolder cloaking with anonymity than even the magical courage juice called alcohol can conjure up. For the most part, you shrug and move on. I find this insulting not as someone who lives 40 minutes from Ground Zero, not as an American, but as simply a human.
Thus far, I am aware of Giants fans contacting Giants beat writers, the Seattle Seahawks and the New York Giants PR departments.
Perhaps a blog post of sorts, highlighting it for your readers to see and condemn, as any decent human being would? Damned if I know.
good work. You missed a word though...You aren't exactly "sure" what will come of it. I also would have told him that not only did they find it funny, the appear to be very happy it happened because it "knocks us down a peg" and "humbles us".
If it's been mentioned yet in the midst of this chaos but on the thread at the bottom of the first page Mason created a thread entitled "Other Giants site" and listed BBI along with the Giants.com message boards in an attempt to get members of their site to come and "talk trash" over here.
"These guys suck. They win the SB and reside in the biggest market in the US and I can find three fansites? I can track down more Turdinal sites than that!" - Mason
I have been consumed with anger from the moment I saw the thread. I'm torn because I "KNOW" I can put the site down for good but that would be breaking the law. We need to keep on working on it to get it done the legal way. I'm just pissed beyond belief.
You are the heartbeat of most of the country right now and you are doing the right thing. You feel how most of us feel and we thank you for taking care of this in the manner that you have.
Kyle, it was a great letter though, despite the missing word. :)
it's right up their alley, not news, but it will generate some discussion. They may be just as interested in the BBIers fighting back as much as the original classless crap.
You've done grwat work already, no need to break the law here. I have a feeling that this guy is going to be pretty much driven back into whatever hole he crawled out of already.
I hesitated on emailing the Seattle beat writer last night for that very reason. Attention is what the guys want. This is the equivalent of feeding the Ultimate Internet Troll. It bothered me for awhile. Give them what they want?
I wrestled with it.
But in the end, my conclusion was... I would much rather people know how awful this website is and let that forum with 9 members get inundated with new registration requests to flame them, let less upstanding versions of OzzieFel DDoS the website to kingdom come, etc.
They already succeeding in getting OUR attention.
Vin:
I don't comment there, I'm a big lurker though. I love the commentary.
yes this guy wanted attention. But only attention as an anonymous moderator of a web forum. He didn't want THIS kind of attention. This attention is about to enter his real life world.
I feel like its a huge competition / race to make the funniest joke possible, and normally I love that stuff, but their level of wit is intimidating haha.
stay above board...the best thing that can happen is that these bozos get the spotlight and get those words affixed to them personally. That way there is at least and example of what happens to you by espousing reprehensible talk.
I would have been easy to write off as a just an asshole with a temporary lapse of judgement, but these tools have not only dug their heels in, but have also made it worse in the subsequent posts. It is just my opinion, but I think these yahoos need to be hung up to dry in the media.
FWIW, I also sent the URL to the Seahawks, which IIRC have a pending trademark on "The 12th Man."
The text wording is easy to spew out offensive garbage. Just look at YouTube commentary after videos: it always devolves into racists calling everyone niggers or faggots and extreme leftists wishing death on all moderates & conservatives in America.
The wanton use of pictures from 9/11 to accentuate the joke, though... that is so much worse in my mind. You're literally staring the death and destruction of American civilians on American soil in the face and thinking "THIS IS GONNA BE SO FUNNY LOL"
that Anguish is the guy who Ozzie called who was outraged when notified of what was going on. I wouldn't want that associated with my name, business, or website with my name on it either. Seemed like he was unaware.
of the domain for that site has the same contact information. Anguish and Mason are one and the same. Lets not give this guy who just road in on his white horse any credit.What ever... it's off.
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Wow, if that's the same guy, what a complete tool. It's somehow worse that he vehemently defends his position, then pretends to be another person who condemns it.
And I know, Mason's jokes were AWFUL and in HORRIBLE taste, but I honestly believe his intention was to post jokes not thinking this would happen.
That guy HawksFan94 or something, he was vile and on a whole nother level. He was actually hoping certain people were in the towers and was glad it happened.
And I believe he wrote that that guy Mason was posting awful stuff about S. Taylor after he was murdered last year.
Also found this from a Seahwaks website/blog. Mostly outrage from Hawks fans which is good, but more evidence that this Mason guy has been doing similar stuff for a while, including Kevin Everett for Christ's Sake.
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Seahawks huddle forum is giving seattle fans a BAD rap!
Posted by SmartyPants at 9/25/08 11:09 p.m.
they are making 9/11 jokes over there, which i think is very classless
... Posted by tenn at 9/26/08 3:05 a.m. in reply to: #1750180
That Mason guy was posting a picture of the Bills TE who got injured last year before the Buffalo game this year. He was acting happy about it, and saying there was more where that came from.
Here's the thing, that is the personality of that site. You can't change it, just try even harder to not let this place stoop that low.
If all that happens is a few deletions and cleanups, then that is BS. He needs to be kicked off that site completely. they can't just delete that stuff and then move on. Is that what that site is about???
that a guy who is just the "admin" has power over the site owner, and can edit his posts for classlessness. If I owned the site, I wouldn't let my admin censor me.
and I'm not going to wade through that site looking for proof. At least he took it down. I'm willing to bet Mason never expected this kind of reaction. He may have 2 running names on that site, as a good cop/bad cop for everytime he pulls something like this.
I saw a few posts referencing similar treatment from him on Sean Taylor's death and the Bill's TE who was almost paralyzed last year.
And in case anyone is interested Anguish was one of the 1st asswipes to sign up over there. So he's full of shit when he says he's been unaware of what's been going on.
Shut up...9-11 reminds me of your dumbass mayor putting the "emergency command center" in a building terrorist vowed to blow up. That's how smart New Jerkers are.
That City is so fucking dirty. Last time I was there it was like an open cess pool.
Is there anyway we can sell it to the terrorist and then fucking nuke it.
I really believe a Theocracy is the only long term viable form of government because the basis of the values of the society are set, they should never change as opposed to democracies
This disgusts me and please forgive me for venting. 9/11 was an attack on America, not just NYC. I will pull my domains from GoDaddy if they don't yank TalkHawks' license. I wouldn't dream of dishonoring Oklahoma's incident with sick jokes like that. Yes, I made jokes about Challenger, when I was a naive 15yr old, but not now. Hell, and I'm a diehard Jets and Giants fan from FL (yes, it is possible:)!! As I grew up, I realized the sick nature of those jokes. Unfortunately, the NY'ers here give NYC a really bad rep, but I'm not going to dishonor those innocents who lost their lives or loved ones over a damn sports event. Who the fuck does this guy think he is. Seattle is a beautiful city (when it's sunny - I had a job interview there), and the people I've met there are decent. This guy is a dysfunctional idiot who has no idea what it means to endure an incident like 9/11. I'm too pissed to put into words. I believe that political motivation has no presence in this idiot's MO - he's an asshole no matter what political party he belongs to, so I'm not going to make fun of Dems or Reps, or others. Actually, he's probably that guy who complains about everything but never gets up off his lazy ass to vote for what he believes in. Instead he blogs about it on his corporate email thinking that he can hide behind the anonymity. Well guess what fuck face, they found you!! And I hope you get pounded with hate mail, in addition to pervasive and invasive insolence for a long, long time. I hope that a mixed group of immigrants, native patriots and naturalized citizens who stand up for this country find you on the street corner and beat you to a pulp, ink an American Flag on your forehead, and recite the Preamble to remind you that we're one country, not a group of individual cities. I'm not a religious person in the least, but I'm feeling quite pious about this. Thanks for letting me vent.
I hope all of you great Giants fans don't think that all of us Seahawk fans are RMOTELY like this complete douche bag that posted those comments. I sincerely apologize for that. I for one go to the ceremony we have here every year to honor those who fell that awful day. That is one day that's emblazened in my mind for life. I know my group on Fox sports are appalled by this. I wish you all good luck this Sunday and hope it's a great game. God Bless you all, and we will never forget.
P.S.
If one of you can get us this jerk-oofs email addy come over to the Seahawks homepage on Fox and give it to us. We're locals and could probably locate this person. I know I'd LOVE to get ahold of him.
TC...no one here wants anyone to do anything to the guy...
his site is trashed, what he had left of his reputation is gone, and we know it's not what the very vast majority of Seahawk fans feel. It's over, time to move on.
No need for you to apologize. And I think for the most part (hopefully it is 100%, but all fanbases have idiots) no one holds what this one idiot did against the city or Seahwaks fans. Here's to a solid football game this week, should be fun.
I just found out about those comments and felt I had to say something. Like just stated. Let have a great games sunday, alas I do have to add this.... GO HAWKS!
