Would you trade Eli for Jay Cutler?

no?

...and you got yourself a deal.

Cutler will continue to force things.

Eli has the proper demeanor for this team and this market.

for sure.

young QB, but I'm sort of stuck on Eli because of what he did for us. Also, Eli's 4th quarter comebacks have won me over.

it'd be like having Shockey at QB.

I like our chances with Manning. Love his demeanor. Love the work ethic. He floats 'em now and again, but he's solid under pressure. I'll stick with Eli.

Cutler is a knucklehead

The only guys I would trade Eli for are Brady and Peyton.

Big Ben, Brees, and a few other guys (maybe McNabb and Warner) might be better at this point, but Eli still has room to improve and might turn out to be better than any of them.

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I want BRandon Marshall though

I know it will be an unpopular view around here, but Cutler has the best arm in the league and will only get better. He makes a bonehead throw now and then out of agression, but he'll do less of that this year.

It's a moot point though, because the Giants would never take the risk of upsetting "chemistry."

That could devolve into "stats mean nothing", so I dare not post any numbers.

So to keep it in the subjective realm--

Cutler has many more physical gifts, Eli has much more poise and has "been to the promised land".

With both in their prime? There is your answer.

No

Eli is also way more intelligent than Cutler

No. The only reason why his passing stats look so good is that Denver couldn't run the ball. He's good and it would be stupid for Denver to let him go, but E is our guy.

do it. Cutler has more upside and more physical gifts. I love Eli, but sometimes he just misfires and/or makes decisions that leave you scratching your head. I think what we see is what we get with Eli at this point.

Cutler hasn't shown the type of mental stability I want to see in my franchise QB. There ARE QB's I would trade Eli for, but Cutler isn't among them.

Cutler may have the better physical tools, but Eli has the head, the demeanor, the maturity, and all the mental tools. Plus, Eli has the "IT".

And, Eli is a champion, with a champion's mentality. Who knows if Cutler will ever reach that level.

I know this is hypothetical, but where's the loyalty? Eli Manning is our QB, who we couldn't have won the Super Bowl without. The way he's handled himself here is something to be proud of in todays game, and you think you'd trade him for Jay Cutler?

I don't care how they rank talent wise one way or another, I would never make that trade.

That should tell some of the story of what the Giants think of him. If they get it done now, they likely think either the price will go up or it's best to avoid a distraction/holdout later on. If they wait until midseason or even later, perhaps they're not totally 100% sold.

The fact that some on this thread are clearly willing to give Eli up though is scary.

I will always support and root for all Giants players. I am a super fan too. It does'nt mean I can't question things about our team. I was just curious about how BBI would feel about abn offer like that. i live in Denver and have grown to be really impressed with Cutler. he is not with out faults but he's only entering his third year and there is alot of upside there still.

yeah.

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but you also said you would make the trade. That in itself is going to leave you open to much criticism.

BTW, Cutler is going into his 4th year, not his 3rd.

but Cutler has been the better QB when matched up with Eli's first 3 years in the league NO QUESTION. But you don't trade your franchise QB who has one a super bowl and showed he can win in NY for someone who may end up being a little bit better but could end up being a lot worse.

the last playoff game I might have said yes. (Just kidding)

just like Denver wanted Cutler.... wow to this thread... just wow.

Ha ha ha. Thats actually pretty accurate (and funny). I used to be high on Cutler because of his physical skills, but it takes a lot more than just a strong arm to be a great, or even really good, NFL QB.

his own team didn't want him. God I'm glad JR is our GM and not any of the BBI'ers

he put up some excellent seasons with Atlanta, Oakland and Minnesota. If you actually take out the Indy years, George had a pretty good NFL career.

...but every team he was on hated his guys in the locker room

personality is perfect for ny and he is a superbowl mvp! all this guy has done is lead his team to the playoffs every year!

A new QB having to learn the system and play to his potential might take up to 2 years to start paying dividends over Eli. It's not worth the gamble. We won it with Eli and about the same supporting cast.

Eli can handle NY. Can Cutler?
Eli is cool under pressure. Can that be said of Cutler?
Eli has a great work ethic. Can Cutler match that?
Eli has complete respect of the lockroom. Would Cutler have the same?
Eli has managed and won over the NY media. Will Cutler wilt under the microscope that the media?

Too many open questions

Trade Eli? Hell no.

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I also hope Reese doesn't feel he has to give Eli a mega deal because he is not deserving of one of the biggst contracts in NFL history.

cheer for the laundry but you gotta have some loyalty as a fan or why even bother getting emotionally invested. I wouldn't trade Reyes or Wright for Pujols and they haven't won shit so I certainly wouldn't trade Eli for Jay Cutler. Peyton is better than Eli but I'm not trading Eli for him either.

So, basically why would you ever do it? Its a gamble either way.

but my dad says he might be good someday.

keep that overrated drama queen in Denver.

like the lead singer of Matchbox 20... PASS

Other than be kind of whiney about possibly being traded, what else has he done to be a drama queen? I cant blame the guy for being upset about possibly being traded. Especially if it came out of nowhere.

I'll always like the kid, simply because of that one game where Rivers was talking smack to him for no reason and he just let it roll off his back.

Unless, of course, you just can't stand Eli and never will...

at the Meadowlands in late November last year. Still, no.

paging GMANinDC...;)

Enough with the Eli hate.

and one ring already in the bank. The best is yet to come from #10.

Too many around here already take him for granted, it's a shame.

he said he should have gone higher in the draft and wanted to show every team that passed on him that they made a mistake.

He said last year that he didn't feel like he had the respect of the Denver fans. He complained about shanahan getting canned. He complained about the Pro Bowl. He complained about missing the playoffs.

In short - he complains about everything

I hate this website. Unfortunately, I had already seen this thread and responses coming

look at his arm, measurables, and stats!!!

just posted a piece stating that Cutler had asked for a trade a few weeks ago when his QB coach bolted for USC. If this indeed true, and he has been wrongfully been playing the part of the victim this whole time, then my respect for Cutler is dropping by the minute.

we don't necessarily know what Eli would do in a more pass-happy situation.

I like the comparison to George.

Unfortunately, a bunch of people will sat that George was a great QB and that is points in Cutler's favor.

did you miss his shouting match with Rivers? Or his comments about his arm being stronger than Elway? I believe there's some more douchebag comments I can't remember but the fact is, even if he was right about the comments with Elway, or if the Rivers thing was started by Rivers, he should know when to STFU.

Same thing with this trade shit, sure it'd be annoying to find that out, but keep your mouth shut or find a better answer. Yes, he's a drama queen.

even more proof of bonehead.

I like the George comparison too. 500 million dollar arm, 10 cent head/attitude. Both are arrogant SOBs.

Jonny, to be fair, we have seen what Eli does in a pass-centric offense. '05 and '06 his attempts were numerous. Good stats with the TDs and yards, eh on the INTs, of course this is year's one and two as starter and I'd bet good money if we gave him that amount of attempts again, 30+ TDs would be a guarantee

I wouldn't trade Eli for Cutler

I'd consider it if we weren't contending. I love Eli but Cutler has a higher ceiling and is already a pro bowl QB.

Also, I don't know where all this Cutler hate is coming from. He said he wants to show the teams who didn't draft him that they missed out? Ok, tons of players say that. He got into it with Rivers? Rivers is the biggest jerk playing QB west of the Mississippi. Understandable.

All that said, we ARE contenders and Eli is pretty damn good - and we won with him. So I wouldn't do it under the circumstances. But I hope you can see why I would consider it under others.

Eli's best years are in front of him, not behind, unfortunately, most will never appreciate him until he's gone

I wasnt aware of the other stuff. The shouting match thing Rivers started. That much I do remember. Rivers is a Grade A D-bag.

They both are PB QB's and that doesn't mean that much when they play in different conferences. Also, one has a SB MVP and the other doesn't. Everyone on this site says the PB is a joke until they can use it to prove a point.

Why does he have a higher ceiling? Its not like Eli has been playing 8 more years.

much more effective than arguing

is missing in the picture of Jay Cutler's relationship with Denver.
There's more to this than a new coach wanting a guy he's comfortable with.

Why the *#^@ would I trade him for Jeff George, er, Jay Cutler?

Cutler isn't one of those guys who winning just seems to follow around.

Now check out Eli's college and pro years. Outside of 2004, it's just win, win, win for Eli's teams. Coincidence?

I have nothing to back this up but maybe the new staff isn't comfortable with a starting QB that has to constantly be checking his blood sugar levels during the game with the possibility of it effecting his play.

a better qb. I watched Culter roll out and throw a laser beam down field across his body that hit the receiver in stride. Eli will never make a throw like that. He will try occasionally and the flutter ball just might be caught by a guy like Plax. Cutler is a freak but so was George and his career wasn't good.

Actually he has thrown a lot of passes like that, but BBI doesn't like to remember it. The one that is the easiest to remember was a pass to JS a few years ago. Eli was rolling out to his right and throw a TD pass to JS in the opposite end of the endzone. It may not have been a "lazer," but damn good throw.

beat me to it. He's done that with Plax a few times too.

The comparisons of Cutler with George are ridiculous.

First, Jeff George got off to a terrible start to his career...he was crap.

First 3 years: 33 TDs, 40 INTs

He was also pretty inaccurate and not mobile at all.

For his 12-year career, he gained 307 yards on 168 attempts...very slow afoot.

Not to Cutler.

First 3 years: 54 TDs, 37 INTs

In his 3 year career, he has rushed for 423 yards in 113 attempts.

Cutler has a 62.5 completion percentage overall....Jeff George NEVER completes over 62% in a single season, and his career average is 57.9%

Lastly, because George was slow and stupid, he took 358 sacks in 12 years--Cutler has taken 51 in 3 years.

Anyway, there are plenty of good comparisons for Cutler--Jeff George isn't one of them.

1- completion percentages have risen across the board since George's days...compare Phil Simms to some QB's today.

2- Cutler isn't a huge run thread...400 yds in 3 years is damn near statisically insignificant.

3- I made the comparison more along the lines of the "million dollar arm, but kind of a prima donna prick" more than their games---but I think their games are fairly close.

You said there are a lot of good comparisons to Cutler...curious to see who some of the QB's you had in mind were.

Jeff George started in 1990, the QB numbers were bad in the 1980s and before.

If you look at Simms' stats, you can see the big jump in completion percentage began in 1990, Jeff George's first year.

George played until 2001.

completion percentage (I'll start with 1986):

1986-55.3%
1987-57.8%
1988-54.9%
1989-56.3%
1990-59.2%
1991-58.2%
1992-60.6%
1993-61.8%

now we can add Cutler to the ever growing list of QBs that the majority of BBI feels obligated to smear and hate. We're going to be up to half the league pretty soon.

You get a lot of points, a lot of drama, and no victories when it counts...kinda like Cutler...hell I bet he even gets close to 61% completions.

even with his lower numbers...George was in the top 10 in the league in completion percentage 3 times...Cutler has yet to be in the top 10 in any season in completion percentage...leaguewide completion percentage is up...more spread offense, west coast style. George threw it deep...a lot.

So Cutler's running/scrambling ability is "insignificant", and yet he somehow managed to take the fewest sacks on any starting QB despite playing all 16 games and throwing the ball an astonishing 616 times in 2008 (2nd in the NFL).

Great stuff Einstein!

You are a great example of "how to lie with statistics"....Cutler is currently 11th among all current active NFL QBs in completion percentage, yet you say he is "yet to be in the Top 10 in any season" as if he is out there chucking it to the feet of his WRs with regularity.

And he's played 2 1/2 seasons.

Funny that you accuse me of lying with statistics, because I think you contort numbers in your favor constantly.

Cutler completed 62.3 percent of his passes this year...tied for 14th. If he did it in 1993? Tied for 3rd.

Not sure how you are going to argue this...league wide- completion percentage is up...not just starting in 1990, completion percentage now is higher than ever.

Kerry Collins took less sacks and played all 16 games.

I'll let that sink in for a second.

Carson Palmer
Brett Favre
John Elway

Looking at those names, you think Cutler is HOF quality?

Sack percentage leaders in 2008:

Cutler: 1.75%
Collins: 1.89%
Drew Brees: 2.01%

And neither Collins or Brees are known for their wheels making a bit of difference in their game.

He's good throwing on the move, but as far as making a bunch of plays with his feet? Not really.

doesn't get to a receiver on a deep out as fast as Cutler's. Too many wobble and arrive late and often high. That is why having a receiver like Plax is important. Eli's best throw is the out he deliberately "under throws" to Plax. There isn't much a 5' 10" corner can to do to stop it. Eli is a good qb but he doesn't have the raw athletic ability that Culter has. In the long run, I think Cutler could possibly turn out to be a better qb than Eli but I'm not sure it is a risk worth taking. I don't think Eli has to be the greatest qb in the league for the Giants to succeed. Reese is obviously building the team sensibly on a dominating defense and powerful running game. The Giants can do well if Eli is no better than average.

Exactly. And because Eli is a true sportsman and a gentleman, there are no lockerroom issues surrounding him. Think about the way Eli treated Shockey for all those years. Then look what Brees did to Shockey after one season. How would Cutler have dealt with that? Eli has never missed the playoffs as a full-season starter. There's a reason for that.

I never said it did. In fact I even used quotes to to better emphasize that point. Why your brining up Plax and Eli passing high, I have no idea, was never in any of the threads you or I have posted. I wasn't even attacking Cutler, only defending Eli.

Here is the deal. I end up looking like a polyanna when it comes to Eli and I realize that. A lot of times I restrain myself from posting on some Eli threads because of it. I get that not everyone likes Eli. I have no problem with someone pointing out his flaws. What I argue is when someone doesn't like Eli for phantom or inaccurate reasons.

They're both really good, ok?

That said, this is a really funny debate to read. It seems like the biggest strike against Jay Cutler is that he's not Eli Manning...

is how he runs his yap. Not sure how that would work out here. I don't know a thing about his work ethic (which is one of my favorite things about Eli) so I can't comment there. I just wish he would shut up and just play ball. Don't let yourself get sucked into the other crap.

Is he physically superior to Eli? Damn right he is.

Or that he had to win 1 game in December to make the playoffs and couldn't...people will blame the defense but they let a shit Buffalo team win a low scoring game against them at home when a win clinched the division.

and more importantly... the Giants wouldn't.

They lost 30-23 to the Bills anemic offense. They were up 13-0 midway through the second quarter. The D surrendered 14 4th quarter points. Cutler threw for 360 yards and ran for two TDs in a losing effort...

and they had no running game but to be fair Cutler did throw a pick to our old friend K. Mitchell in the red zone in the 4th quarter.

I would not trade Eli for Cutler.

for some reason I thought it was a defensive game...serves me right for not looking it up.

Seems to go hand in hand

I don't think the Cutler and George comparisons are very fair, as Cutler has shown he can be an extremely competent starter in the league....but to suggest trading Eli for him is pretty fucking insane, IMO. The only way it is even slightly viable would be if Eli ALWAYS sucked in the wind, but that just is not true. Eli had a bad game against Philly, that happened to be in the wind, and was slightly exacerbated by the wind.

With 2 #1's also coming from Denver...

would trade Mcnabb for Cutler. That way, their rebuilding wouldn't be that bad, and Mcnabb would go to a place that has receivers in Marshall, Royal, and Scheffler. I could see this happening..

The Eagles would have to throw in probably a first rounder and another few picks for Denver to even consider doing that.

no.

Swap there right arms, yes.

Wouldn't want to disrupt team chemistry, deal with the learning curve of a new qb, etc.

Hypothetically, hellz yeah, just to prove to bbi that Eli Manning does not have magical powers. Eli would start doing worse and Cutler would start doing better because the Giants are a whole hell of a lot better than the Broncos.

But then after a few stinkers by Cutler we'd have all these threads about how Cutler will be fine and the whole mess would start over again.

Hell, I'd trade Eli for Rex Grossman.

Eli's a bum.

Eli has magical powers? Learn something new every day..

I'd trade him for at this point but Culter is one of them.

full of threads knocking/hinting that Eli isn't worth the extension. I missed those threads last offseason. The man is a season removed from winning a Super Bowl and we have threads on whether we should trade him for a QB who has never even led his team to the postseason and who was part of a team that lost 3 straight to end the season with a 3 game lead over San Diego, which was one of the biggest collapses in NFL history.

the rest id rather have eli

Do you prefer Eli to struggle just to help prove your point?

If you notice above, Eli's magical powers made SanFranGiantsFan imply that Eli Manning could have stopped Denver's defense from absolutely sucking at the end of the season last year. That's pretty magical my friend.

I'd take Eli over Cutler whenever, wherever.

Cutler has been a starter for 2 seasons. No postseason appearances. Nada.

Eli's first two seasons as a starter: 2 postseason appearances, 1 NFC East title.

If he can eliminate the second half of the season struggles and show a better propensity to carry the team when the running game is struggling, not all the time just more often, I'll be just as happy as the rest of you.

You have every right to like Eli more than Cutler.

I'm just saying that your comment puts way too much success or failure of the team on the qb. Denver could have easily missed the playoffs last year even if Brady or Montana were the qb but with no change to the defense. And, just because the Giants have been successful since Eli has been here doesn't directly make it all his doing. I think Jerry Reese and Spags had a lot more to do with our recent consistency than Eli, just my opinion.

a big reason for the Defensive success was talent making plays. Yes scheme helped too.

All these arguments prove more and more is that football is the epitome of TEAM game.

for it.

After all, Eli is only, and solely, to be blamed for all the bad things, never to be credited for the good, otherwise you're vastly overrating him and assigning him the magical touch.

at 6'7" and 308+ lbs. has a stronger arm than
Eli, but I wouldn't make him our QB.

Have you ever seen Bradshaw throw a football? He threw it like Cutler! And he moved a lot better than Jeff George.

George had a slightly stronger arm. Bradshaw had everything else.

I know you're a big Cutler guy...I like him too but not more than Eli.

Off topic- you still wagering on anything and everything? We need more degenerate threads here there was good info there.

I hate the George comparison. Everybody hated Jeff George especially the guys in his huddle.

I was going more along the lines of the dramatic baggage that seems to follow him.

Jay Cutler is the best quarterback. That's never been a question for me. When he fades back and looks downfield and winds up and throws that ball, he looks like John Elway and Danny Marino all rolled into one. Physically. And the speed and arc of the ball, etc. He's a better quarterback than Eli Manning.

He's a prima donna.

Eli Manning is a gentleman's gentleman. He's a sportsman, and an ambassador of the game and of America to the world. He's no prima donna. Cutler's the better quarterback. Eli's the better football player.

Gotcha.

Man I cannot WAIT to draft Tim Tebow if this is how we judge QBs. Talk about a guaranteed Hall of Famer, Tim Tebow is the world's greatest person ever! Just ask the BCS Championship announcing team.

/purposely taking things to the extreme

shooting fish in a barrel is boring.

Especially when you're fishing in a barrel... with dynamite.

More fun to poke fun than to join in on another Eli Manning discussion. Much more fun.

Eli's the better football player because he's the better leader. He's a quiet leader. He doesn't make enemies anywhere around the league. San Diego fans are over Eli's dis of their franchise. Part of the reason is because Cutler's such a weinie.

Eli's been to the playoffs every year as a starter. Cutler has a quicker delivery and a stronger arm. Eli has the imagination to make throws that Cutler hasn't conceived of yet. Eli is a leader of men. Cutler is a prima donna. That's why Eli is a better football player, and a SB MVP.

Scoreboard.

Has Cutler ever been in a playoff game? This is the same Jay Cutler whose team choked away the weakest division in football in 2008, right?

Yeah, he throws the ball real hard. So what?

Pretty stats but I suppose it's easy to put up pretty stats when you have an OLine that has turned the cut block into a run blocking art form, Brandon Marshall, Eddie Royal, and Brandon Stokley.

Meanwhile, Eli had young and untested Domenik Hixon, young Steve Smith, and shot Amani Toomer.

In a QB skills competition, I'll take Cutler. When the real bullets fly, I'll take the guy who doesn't whine about everything. Let me know when Cutler plays and wins in a playoff game. Until then, he goes into the same category with other BBI QB's who are allegedly better than Eli Manning who've never sniffed a Super Bowl MVP with Tony Romo and Carson Palmer.

seriously, do you think Eli will make the playoffs before he DOESN'T? How many SB MVP trophies will he have by then? These are serious questions. Cutler, smartly, wants out of Denver. He's acting like Shockey did when he wanted out of East Rutherford. But whatever. He's no leader of men. He's a terrific quarterback. The prima donna is always the best dancer.

and this isn't much of a debate. In addition to his immaturity which you simply don't want out of someone who plays that position, Id like for someone to name me the last time Jay Cutler did anything against a real good defense. You'll be lucky to find me 2-3 games

Everyone likes to tout his numbers from last year, take a look at the defenses they played. They played two games last season against teams ranked in the top 13 in total defense. TWO. They played 5 games ranked against teams in the top half. In those 5 games he threw 6 TD to 7 INT. The rest of his games were against the garbage defenses of the NFL. The worst of the worst. Compare that to Eli Manning, who made 9 of his starts last year (over half) against teams who ranked in the top 8 in total defense. Cutler didn't even play a team who finished in the top 8 in total defense, and that group composed over half of Eli's schedule

Yes Eli has a stronger running game but he doesn't have Brandon Marshall and Eddie Royal and we don't have Ryan Clady at LT. Comparing numbers between these two are pointless. Cutler is not coming to the NFC East and throwing for 4,000 yards. If his career history is any indication he would fold against high level of competition as he usually does

Eli has won a super bowl and just produced a pro bowl year against a schedule that pitted him against the best defenses in the NFL week in week out. Cutler has thrown for a lot of yards against some garbage defenses and is best known at this time for being a baby

Eli's been there. Done that.

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Denver was a tough place to play QB for a little while there, after Elway retired. In the same way that Miami was a tough place to play QB for a little while after Marino retired. But that ship has long sailed. Denver has got to be the easiest place for a football-savvy strong-armed smart young quarterback to play without making a total fuckup of the the media aspect of being an NFL QB. And Cutler has completely fucked it up.

The difference between the two is striking. I don't care how well Cutler can chuck it.

10? (Ten seasons before Eli misses the playoffs?)

2? (Two SB MVP Trophies for Eli by then?)

Would not trade Eli for any QB although Broncs considering a trade is a mystery but their FO has been weird for a decade. You could probably get tons more for Eli on the open market.

but I hate the way he throws the ball. He leaves a lot of plays on the field with his poor technique. Eli does at times too, but I trust Eli to improve on that part of his game. I don't trust Cutler to do anything except pout.

JoeMP makes a good point too...Eli's been playing varsity ball. The AFC West is something less than that.

However, Cutler on the Vikes would catapult them into viable SB contenders

I don't know about that. With that OLine and RB, Pennington would have been the perfect fit on that team. Smart, adept at playaction passing...I couldn't believe the Vikings didn't make a play for him.

Cutler would help Minnesota, but they're built for a game manager at QB...someone adept at the little things. Cutler doesn't fit that mold. He was in a perfect situation in Denver...great #1 WR, good #2, weak pass defenses to shred in high scoring games. He should shut his mouth and sit tight there.

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I'm sure he could. He has all the physical tools. The question is, will he? I think it's fair to wonder about what he's got between his ears.

I watch the guy play, and I see a guy that has terrible footwork and relies solely on his arm to make throws. He plays in a poor division behind a very good OLine that allows him to stand back in the pocket and pick defenses apart with relatively little pressure. If this trade with Cleveland goes down and he is facing the Steelers and Ravens 4 times a year, we're going to see a very different guy.

The numbers don't reflect this because he wasn't sacked much last year if I remember right, but in Cutler I see a guy that needs to work on doing everything faster and crisper. But I also see a guy that's changed little from his rookie year to now, and I see that as a red flag.

Would have a terrific OL and a D that wouldn't place him in catch up mode which would explain in part, this season's O production from him sans a viable running game...In Minny, He'd have a very good D, terrific OL, a great running attack and less pressure to gunsling...Would he adapt? I don't see why not...His contemporaries have won 3 SBs doing just that..

But I have never seen the reason for all the love Cutler has gotten. To me he is more a figment of the media along the lines of a Tony Romo lite.

He gets to play in a weak division and even with that they shit the bed in making the playoffs. I think he is a coach killer myself who shines just enough to elicit hope but never gets the job done

how we won the Super Bowl 2 years ago, you can't trade Eli for anybody, he may be the reason we won.

But if you are going to rank QBs on skill sets, Cutler would be ahead of Eli...

It's easy.

He's very smart. Tough. Athletic. Throws on the move as good as any QB. Will stand in there and take a punch in the mouth to deliver the ball. And he throws the ball as good as any QB in the NFL.

And he's young.

Those are some of the reasons people like him as a QB

You know McDaniels has been doing NOTHING but pouring over tape since he got the gig... not to mention that he has been a coach in the AFC and is more than familiar with Cutler at this point... yet he seems more than a little eager to replace the kid.

Gives me the feeling that Cutler may be a "stats" guy but is lacking something McDaniels thinks we needs/wants in his QB. What that might be I have no idea.

Personally I have never been sold on Cutler, despite his numbers.

Giant Mike

isn't comparing him to Brady

In a way that would seem unfair... but i think you may be on to something.

Perhaps he thinks he wants a more cerebral guy and is willing to pass on the physical gifts of Mr. Cutler in favor of a guy who could be more of a field general than a gun slinger???