WARNING: If you do not like rumors or rumor-mongering, please leave this thread immediately for your own mental health. Please don't shoot the messenger. The following was provided to me by a legitimate source (not one of the previous Edwards asshats on this site):
"The talks are still on. The Browns are being cheap right now and have no interest in re-signing Edwards to a big deal. They are willing to take low compensation. They are asking for a conditional next year (high as a 3) and Danny Ware and Mario Manningham (who Mangini wanted badly for the Jets). They were asking for these same two players before the draft, but the feeling is they can get NY to bite now that they got Nicks and Brown in the draft."
"(I do not) know the status of the Giants response to this offer."
Firstly, if Edwards comes here assume he is in the 1 slot.right..I personally think Nicks/Smith will fight for 2 and 3, with the understanding that our game changer can return to his older position and guess who can return punts and kicks again. Dont get me wrong, Hixon has a huge upside as a WR but if this happens to go threw, I would not have anything wrong with throwing him in on certain packages to stretch the field. and as a 4. I personally think beckum will be an immediate impact player. So if we do get Edwards. I see Edwards/Nicks/Smith/Hixon lets not forget about Boss, Beckum out of the H-Back. Barden for 3 downs and red zone. We have mad talent.
I wont even talk about the RBS. They speak for themselves. Just my $.02
Anyway, I'm in the "No Thanks on BE" camp. Fk all that money he's gonna want. He's not good enough to be worth it, imo. I'd rather we go with what we have.
Unless Cle. & BE settles for less. MM needs to NOT be included.
Thats a joke. You guys have seen him play how many snaps? How many snaps would he even play this year behind Jacobs, Bradshaw and quite possibly Brown?
This is a good deal I think and as long as Braylon isn't a little bitch about his contract and we sign him to an extension (that we don't overpay for), I think we would be stupid not to take this deal.
The other guy who happens to be a personal favorite is Sinorice Moss because he has such deadly speed. He made some great plays in preseason and he gives them another dimension with speed.
Steve Smith should take the role of vintage Amani Toomer, great possession receiver and 2 rookies who knows what their roles will be. Manningham from all indications is a guy thats gonna contribute prominently at WR. They'll be loaded at WR, maybe overloaded, depending on what a guy like Manningham does.
coming up with a good enough scheme to replace plax
after the incident, it was fine during the suspension when hixon started but he didnt scheme well enough after that
if they come up with a scheme that keeps defenses off balance well enough that could be better than 1 guy that could get injuried and they are back at square one again
im all for the edwards trade but only if they get him at the right price but not giving up too much,if reese thinks he has a good enough squad without edwards then im happy to trust him on that
Call me crazy, but intelligence matters. How many of Eli's INTs through '07 were due to the knucklehead Shockey running the wrong routes?
We're not rebuilding - Screw potential.
If the contract numbers were right, I'd make this trade in a second.
We saw what Moss did for the Pats O. Braylon while not Moss could have a similiar impact on this O, rather than crossing our fingers with a ton of youth.
Could it work out relying on a ton of youth? Sure but the chances are nowhere near picking up a guy who has already shown sustained dominance as a #1 WR on the NFL level.
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Move along, there's nothing to see here. This is not going to happen.
the more I think about this and now considering the draft we had, we should be able to do just fine. and if not, it isn't because we didn't get a #1 in free agency, the team simply failed. there is plenty enough talent on this team that the coaches should be able to develop a scheme and the players should be able to make plays.
The point is, it quite often takes even great receivers 3-4 years and yet so many here are expecting a break out year from Mario who's not the brightest bulb in the house.
Mario MAY have a break out year, but it might not be for another 1-3 years. It's silly to be counting on it this year when we're a contender. If we were rebuilding we could afford to be patient, but we're not. I feel like a broken record.
Could we win with our super green receiving corp/ Anything is possible BUT the chances are MUCH smaller than bringing in a guy who already has proven #1 NFL production in Braylon.
I understand we also are giving a 3 and Ware, but the loss of Ware is offset by Brown so then we are down to comparing a 3 and a rookie for a young WR who is rated as one of the top 5 WR in the NFL.
If Edwards contract is not too ridiculous (over 8.5 Mill @ year) this is a no-brainer. WTF would make anyone think that losing MM is too much to obtain BE?
You can't possibly be talking about Braylon Edwards; Do you even follow football?
Name 5 that are better, and don't based your answer on one year.
Moss
Calvin Johnson
Reggie Wayne
Brandon Marshall
I'll continue if need be
He would fall somewhere after those top 7, IMO
Mook,
a fair point. But even if he is the 7th best instead of the 5th would you not make that trade? And how much difference in contract demands would there be for that? Not that mush i would guess. My day really sucks knowing that i actually agree with the mangina
I would disagree strongly that he was no better then the 15th best WR in the NFL. Besides that, he has many years left in which he can only get better which has to be taken into account. Case in point is that 3 years ago Marvin Harrison could have been argued as the best WR in the league. Now he is being thought of as being done.
Also keep in mind that when we got Plax, his previous 2 seasons with Pitt were less then stellar to say the least. His second best season of his career was his first one with us. So if the player has some past success, a change of scenery can get that back
There's really no compelling case for adding him, whatsoever.
I don't think Edwards will be a Giant because I think the Giants feel there is some reason to believe Edwards may never reach his full potential.
If Plax had been a disciple of the game as Rice who knows what his ceiling was