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Why does ELI say OMAHA ?

IRON-Giant : 7/14/2009 8:47 pm
IS this to audible out of a run or pass play,or does it mean the defense is blitzing.
Political thread  
Paulie Walnuts : 7/14/2009 8:48 pm : link
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It's actually his pet name for Gilbrides mustache.  
j_rud : 7/14/2009 8:50 pm : link
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Neither  
robbieballs2003 : 7/14/2009 8:51 pm : link
Omaha is for the snap count meaning on One.
Brady  
Rflairr : 7/14/2009 8:53 pm : link
says it too.
i think it means  
newjerseygiants : 7/14/2009 8:58 pm : link
the protection is staying the same as the play intends.
Why not just say "ONE! ONE!"  
Curtis in MD : 7/14/2009 8:58 pm : link
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Doesn't it vary meanings  
bradshaw44 : 7/14/2009 9:00 pm : link
from play to play?
Omaha might be a filler  
adam XLII : 7/14/2009 9:02 pm : link
He should switch Omaha to Brooklyn

That would be much cooler
Actually they are switching  
The Turk : 7/14/2009 9:03 pm : link
it to Obama
why not say  
IRON-Giant : 7/14/2009 9:04 pm : link
blue twentytwo down set one mississipi two mississipi hut hut hike.Change it up a little so the defense can't read the plays.
Since the other team can hear him  
oipolloi : 7/14/2009 10:02 pm : link
it can only have a meaning that does not convey information to them. It might mean stick with the play called or switch to the alternative. Or it might just be the equivalent of "hut" hut"--like we said when we were kids.
i think it's just a timing thing  
ITaLiRiCaN : 7/14/2009 10:04 pm : link
somebody posted a playbook on here a while back, and Omaha was defined in the playbook as a word to be used when the ball is about to be snapped. This is why Eli always yells it right before the ball is being snapped.
he once  
U-turn : 7/14/2009 10:09 pm : link
got laid there by a girl with red eyes.
I asked him at training camp  
Young Elijah : 7/14/2009 10:15 pm : link
why he said it. He said......

Its a secret....If I told you, I'd have to kill you.


Witty guy that Eli.
Can't wait for training  
SanFranGiantsFan : 7/14/2009 10:18 pm : link
camp.
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U-turn : 7/14/2009 10:18 pm : link
I think he likes the steaks  
darasman : 7/14/2009 10:30 pm : link
He yells "Omaha"  
mrvax : 7/14/2009 10:39 pm : link
because screaming "Obviously" has 1 too many syllables.
it could mean to run the play  
Kevin(formerly Tiki4Six) : 7/14/2009 11:33 pm : link
"opposite" of the way it was called. For ex..run right is now run left...
It means...  
manh george : 7/15/2009 12:24 am : link
"We gotta kick as so I can get as rich as Warren Buffet."
Just to piss *you* off.  
Dave in Hoboken : 7/15/2009 12:41 am : link
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I thought  
GolfingNYG : 7/15/2009 1:47 am : link
it was Eli's bedroom "codeword."
two words  
pete_the_puma : 7/15/2009 2:02 am : link
"Jo Mama"

got it?
Idiots  
Craig Loves NY : 7/15/2009 3:08 am : link
It's backwards for Ahamo.
"what up, Jer...whatcha got on my $20 mil?"  
SHO'NUFF : 7/15/2009 6:28 am : link
Hey jerry whats with the umbrella?  
IRON-Giant : 7/15/2009 7:57 am : link
Well ELI im going to make it rain,How does 10years 100hundred million with a 50 million signing bonus sound.
...  
Klaatu : 7/15/2009 8:08 am : link
He's just letting Abby know what's in store for her after the game.

The real reason is,  
Giantology : 7/15/2009 8:19 am : link
Eli was born with a slight case of tourette's syndrome.
To tell the WRs  
AnishPatel : 7/15/2009 8:41 am : link
not to motion due to the playclock going down. So run the play as is without motion.
because it sounds better  
G-Men43 : 7/15/2009 8:56 am : link
than saying "oh shit".
because it sounds better  
G-Men43 : 7/15/2009 8:57 am : link
than saying "oh shit".
i'd heard  
Blue Crush : 7/15/2009 10:34 am : link
same thing newjerseygiants mentioned... protection stays as called.
lol  
Ten Ton Hammer : 7/15/2009 10:43 am : link
There's no way it just means "snap count is one"

Do you realize how fast an NFL defense would pick up on that?
Robbie  
AnishPatel : 7/15/2009 10:56 am : link
Quote:
Omaha is for the snap count meaning on One


They normally use days of the week for that or just on 1 or 2. Omaha was brought into this system by Hufangel from NE. I had their playbook and posted that part of it, but now can't find it on my computer. But it was meant to stop motion if the playclock was going down. So the players would run the play without the motion tags. I actually checked this when Eli would say it, and almost everytime, the playclock was about around 5 or less.
Which begs the question…  
Morphogenetica : 7/15/2009 11:34 am : link

when will Eli refrain from calling the snap right before the play clock expires…he seems to do that a way lot. Doesn’t this “habit” give an advantage to the defense.
Eli  
Kevin in Annapolis : 7/15/2009 11:36 am : link
luvs counting crows
Morp, you may be right,  
Section331 : 7/15/2009 11:37 am : link
but keep in mind that Eli usually calls 3 plays in the huddle, so he waits for the clock to run down so that the defense will reveal some of their pre-snap movements. I've got to think that the coaches feel the benefits outway the risks of allowing the D to tee off on the snap count.
Section,  
AnishPatel : 7/15/2009 11:44 am : link
I doubt Eli gets 3 plays most of the time. I am guessing CWM plays only occur a 1/3 of the total number of snaps per game.
Morph  
Shawn in Jersey : Mod : 7/15/2009 11:45 am : link
How is a defender in a 3 point stance going to look at the play clock while watching the ball for the snap? Since the ref doesn't always throw a flag as soon as the play clock hits :00, how does the defender ensure staying on side?
Anish  
Shawn in Jersey : Mod : 7/15/2009 11:48 am : link
But wouldn't any play call have several options out of the original call, not the same as calling 3 plays in the huddle, but still something that is good to wait until the D shows their cards to call.
He says it because he SUX  
arcarsenal : 7/15/2009 11:49 am : link
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It depends on the system.  
AnishPatel : 7/15/2009 11:51 am : link
Some plays can be set, and then you can tag routes off of that original play as a change up. You can then use the 2 play option, run or pass, and that's called Check with ME, or CWM plays, or you can give 1 play, and if Eli doesn't like it hand signal a WR to do something else, OR he can audible and call something totally different. He has options.
It has a different meaning each time  
Mayo : 7/15/2009 12:00 pm : link
based on the situation and he briefs it in the huddle. For example, he'll say "Omaha on this play means..."
I always thought "Omaha" referred to protection schemes  
Section331 : 7/15/2009 12:04 pm : link
(Eli always seems to be pointing at a LB when he calls it out), but I'm not about to question Anish.
Thanks, Anish, I thought the CWM plays  
Section331 : 7/15/2009 12:05 pm : link
were more prevalent than that.
Section.  
AnishPatel : 7/15/2009 12:09 pm : link
LOL. Who am I? You can question it, you have a right to your opinion. I am just stating based on what it said in the playbook, which if I had to make a educated guess, probably stated the same when Gilbride took over. It's not a big terminology thing. Even if the other team knows what it means it doesn't matter.

So you don't have guys in motion. Big deal, still have to stop the play, and you don't know what play we are running against your defense.

If I can find that I will post it again. It was from the NE playbook and then Huffy came from NE as the QB coach, so I would guess being that this was his first OC stint, he'd borrow some terminology from Weis.

I could be wrong, but if this was my first OC job, I would take some stuff from a successful OC like Weis, and then add my personal touch to it.
Section,  
AnishPatel : 7/15/2009 12:12 pm : link
Who knows it could be more prevalent, but I would guess that Gilbride would want to call some plays too, rather than have Eli chose his own play every snap. Those are some of then details us fans aren't privy too. We, do know, CWM plays exist in this system, but I would guess out of 70 or so offensive snaps per game, they'd be used a 1/3 of the time. That's just my guessing, I'd be very suprised if it was 1/2 or even more.
Anish  
dorgan : 7/15/2009 12:18 pm : link
is very close with one slight addition.
It means that motion is off and any shift that might have been called is off.
We're going out of the formation we're in.

as far as the CWM there are plays that are coupled with other plays each week.
In other words, a simple Iso six, might have a pass play coupled with it that Eli has the option to audible to that play.



Anish, I was serious about my comment.  
Section331 : 7/15/2009 12:21 pm : link
You offer more football experise on the board than anyone with the exception of dorgan. I thought Omaha was about protection, but that was, at best, an uneducated guess. With the game breakdowns you do, I'll take your word over mine any day!
Here it is  
AnishPatel : 7/15/2009 12:35 pm : link
I have soooo much football crap on my computer I can't locate half the stuff. But this is from the '04 Pats OFF. Playbook






Anish  
dorgan : 7/15/2009 12:42 pm : link
I've been looking for an hour on my PC for that damn file!

I know it's here somewhere, but the slip-shod way I tag shit is criminal.
I need a keeper.
Dorgan,  
AnishPatel : 7/15/2009 12:47 pm : link
LOL. I have stuff organized in one big football folder, and sub divided into coaching aides,coaching forms, off playbooks, Def playbooks, and special teams playbooks. Anything else like this gets mixed up in random folders and takes forever to find.
That's great stuff, Anish.  
Section331 : 7/15/2009 12:49 pm : link
Thanks.
Anish and dorgan  
GFINCA : 7/15/2009 1:29 pm : link
You guys need something like the iTunes playlist!!
It's  
AnishPatel : 7/15/2009 1:39 pm : link
just way too much stuff. Folder within Folder all filled with football stuff. From football drills by position to coach's articles, to playbooks, to my game breakdowns. So it takes a while to navigate through all this. Stuff like this I found in a random folder, so when that happens i normally stumble upon it by luck.
Another BBI myth brought to the surface  
BigBlueBuff : 7/15/2009 1:54 pm : link
in this thread:

A late snap does NOT confer an advantage to the defense as not only can't down linemen see the play clock, but it also gives the offensive linemen a chance to see the defense get set before the snap. This has been confirmed by players on BOTH sides of the ball in interviews over the past couple of years. It is only among the fans that they myth is perpetuated.
BBB  
Semipro Lineman : 7/15/2009 2:05 pm : link
D-linemen wear stopwatches so they know. Trust me they know
Blue 56!  
jaenyg : 7/15/2009 6:38 pm : link
Cougars suck dick!

Shawn in Jersey , BigBlueBuff …Tell me…  
Morphogenetica : 7/15/2009 8:18 pm : link

What’s to prevent the defensive captain, usually the MLB, who has an upright stance and visual access to the play clock, to yell out loud “Saskatchewan”, indicating that the play clock has driven down to 3 seconds?

Explain to me how Eli is allowed to call “Omaha” while the MLB is not allowed to yell “Saskatchewan”.
Nothing stopping him,  
Shawn in Jersey : Mod : 7/15/2009 8:35 pm : link
but if he's going to start screaming "Saskatchewan" @ 3 seconds, by the time he's finished, the playcock will have expired. But even with a more manageable word, at it will mean is the play will be starting in the next 3 seconds, not sure how much of an advantage that really is.
AnishPatel  
Mike fr Warwick : 7/15/2009 8:46 pm : link
Great stuff. My judgement was alignment was set,play called (no more audible) and time to get off the LOS.
It would be clever if the MLB  
mrvax : 7/15/2009 8:47 pm : link
in this case simply yelled, "three seconds!"
Barrow  
Mike fr Warwick : 7/15/2009 9:06 pm : link
in the Colt game waited for Peyton to have the alignment set and then would call an audible for the front 7.
mrvax …Ahhhh…but you’re forgetting about “false voices”…  
Morphogenetica : 7/15/2009 10:09 pm : link

Don’t know if it’s football legal but anyone of several offensive players might call out “three seconds” when maybe there’s six or seven to go.

Got to have codes…otherwise no James Bond, Da Vinci Codes, etc.
By the way  
Semipro Lineman : 7/15/2009 11:03 pm : link
has anyone really thought of how just a minute spilt-second difference between the snap and the defensive move first step can mean a costly false start penalty.

I mean its not like the Middle linebacker has a countdown clock which showns tenths of a second. Knowing that the clock is running down and actually jumping the snap are two different things.

Also most people can tell which direction the call is coming from. So an offensive lineman will have to be a hell of a ventriloquist to get a guy line up in front of him to believe that its someone behind that guy making a call. I'm just saying
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Klaatu : 7/15/2009 11:23 pm : link
How about the QB yells "Marco," and the MLB counters with "Polo!"
Semipro  
Shawn in Jersey : Mod : 7/16/2009 9:49 am : link
And even if the MLB could see the play clock down to the tenth of a second, what's the odds of the ref actually throwing the flag the moment that last tenth runs off?
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