it can only have a meaning that does not convey information to them. It might mean stick with the play called or switch to the alternative. Or it might just be the equivalent of "hut" hut"--like we said when we were kids.
somebody posted a playbook on here a while back, and Omaha was defined in the playbook as a word to be used when the ball is about to be snapped. This is why Eli always yells it right before the ball is being snapped.
They normally use days of the week for that or just on 1 or 2. Omaha was brought into this system by Hufangel from NE. I had their playbook and posted that part of it, but now can't find it on my computer. But it was meant to stop motion if the playclock was going down. So the players would run the play without the motion tags. I actually checked this when Eli would say it, and almost everytime, the playclock was about around 5 or less.
when will Eli refrain from calling the snap right before the play clock expires…he seems to do that a way lot. Doesn’t this “habit” give an advantage to the defense.
but keep in mind that Eli usually calls 3 plays in the huddle, so he waits for the clock to run down so that the defense will reveal some of their pre-snap movements. I've got to think that the coaches feel the benefits outway the risks of allowing the D to tee off on the snap count.
How is a defender in a 3 point stance going to look at the play clock while watching the ball for the snap? Since the ref doesn't always throw a flag as soon as the play clock hits :00, how does the defender ensure staying on side?
But wouldn't any play call have several options out of the original call, not the same as calling 3 plays in the huddle, but still something that is good to wait until the D shows their cards to call.
Some plays can be set, and then you can tag routes off of that original play as a change up. You can then use the 2 play option, run or pass, and that's called Check with ME, or CWM plays, or you can give 1 play, and if Eli doesn't like it hand signal a WR to do something else, OR he can audible and call something totally different. He has options.
LOL. Who am I? You can question it, you have a right to your opinion. I am just stating based on what it said in the playbook, which if I had to make a educated guess, probably stated the same when Gilbride took over. It's not a big terminology thing. Even if the other team knows what it means it doesn't matter.
So you don't have guys in motion. Big deal, still have to stop the play, and you don't know what play we are running against your defense.
If I can find that I will post it again. It was from the NE playbook and then Huffy came from NE as the QB coach, so I would guess being that this was his first OC stint, he'd borrow some terminology from Weis.
I could be wrong, but if this was my first OC job, I would take some stuff from a successful OC like Weis, and then add my personal touch to it.
Who knows it could be more prevalent, but I would guess that Gilbride would want to call some plays too, rather than have Eli chose his own play every snap. Those are some of then details us fans aren't privy too. We, do know, CWM plays exist in this system, but I would guess out of 70 or so offensive snaps per game, they'd be used a 1/3 of the time. That's just my guessing, I'd be very suprised if it was 1/2 or even more.
is very close with one slight addition.
It means that motion is off and any shift that might have been called is off.
We're going out of the formation we're in.
as far as the CWM there are plays that are coupled with other plays each week.
In other words, a simple Iso six, might have a pass play coupled with it that Eli has the option to audible to that play.
You offer more football experise on the board than anyone with the exception of dorgan. I thought Omaha was about protection, but that was, at best, an uneducated guess. With the game breakdowns you do, I'll take your word over mine any day!
LOL. I have stuff organized in one big football folder, and sub divided into coaching aides,coaching forms, off playbooks, Def playbooks, and special teams playbooks. Anything else like this gets mixed up in random folders and takes forever to find.
just way too much stuff. Folder within Folder all filled with football stuff. From football drills by position to coach's articles, to playbooks, to my game breakdowns. So it takes a while to navigate through all this. Stuff like this I found in a random folder, so when that happens i normally stumble upon it by luck.
A late snap does NOT confer an advantage to the defense as not only can't down linemen see the play clock, but it also gives the offensive linemen a chance to see the defense get set before the snap. This has been confirmed by players on BOTH sides of the ball in interviews over the past couple of years. It is only among the fans that they myth is perpetuated.
What’s to prevent the defensive captain, usually the MLB, who has an upright stance and visual access to the play clock, to yell out loud “Saskatchewan”, indicating that the play clock has driven down to 3 seconds?
Explain to me how Eli is allowed to call “Omaha” while the MLB is not allowed to yell “Saskatchewan”.
but if he's going to start screaming "Saskatchewan" @ 3 seconds, by the time he's finished, the playcock will have expired. But even with a more manageable word, at it will mean is the play will be starting in the next 3 seconds, not sure how much of an advantage that really is.
has anyone really thought of how just a minute spilt-second difference between the snap and the defensive move first step can mean a costly false start penalty.
I mean its not like the Middle linebacker has a countdown clock which showns tenths of a second. Knowing that the clock is running down and actually jumping the snap are two different things.
Also most people can tell which direction the call is coming from. So an offensive lineman will have to be a hell of a ventriloquist to get a guy line up in front of him to believe that its someone behind that guy making a call. I'm just saying
And even if the MLB could see the play clock down to the tenth of a second, what's the odds of the ref actually throwing the flag the moment that last tenth runs off?
That would be much cooler
Its a secret....If I told you, I'd have to kill you.
Witty guy that Eli.
got it?
Do you realize how fast an NFL defense would pick up on that?
They normally use days of the week for that or just on 1 or 2. Omaha was brought into this system by Hufangel from NE. I had their playbook and posted that part of it, but now can't find it on my computer. But it was meant to stop motion if the playclock was going down. So the players would run the play without the motion tags. I actually checked this when Eli would say it, and almost everytime, the playclock was about around 5 or less.
when will Eli refrain from calling the snap right before the play clock expires…he seems to do that a way lot. Doesn’t this “habit” give an advantage to the defense.
So you don't have guys in motion. Big deal, still have to stop the play, and you don't know what play we are running against your defense.
If I can find that I will post it again. It was from the NE playbook and then Huffy came from NE as the QB coach, so I would guess being that this was his first OC stint, he'd borrow some terminology from Weis.
I could be wrong, but if this was my first OC job, I would take some stuff from a successful OC like Weis, and then add my personal touch to it.
It means that motion is off and any shift that might have been called is off.
We're going out of the formation we're in.
as far as the CWM there are plays that are coupled with other plays each week.
In other words, a simple Iso six, might have a pass play coupled with it that Eli has the option to audible to that play.
I know it's here somewhere, but the slip-shod way I tag shit is criminal.
I need a keeper.
A late snap does NOT confer an advantage to the defense as not only can't down linemen see the play clock, but it also gives the offensive linemen a chance to see the defense get set before the snap. This has been confirmed by players on BOTH sides of the ball in interviews over the past couple of years. It is only among the fans that they myth is perpetuated.
What’s to prevent the defensive captain, usually the MLB, who has an upright stance and visual access to the play clock, to yell out loud “Saskatchewan”, indicating that the play clock has driven down to 3 seconds?
Explain to me how Eli is allowed to call “Omaha” while the MLB is not allowed to yell “Saskatchewan”.
Don’t know if it’s football legal but anyone of several offensive players might call out “three seconds” when maybe there’s six or seven to go.
Got to have codes…otherwise no James Bond, Da Vinci Codes, etc.
I mean its not like the Middle linebacker has a countdown clock which showns tenths of a second. Knowing that the clock is running down and actually jumping the snap are two different things.
Also most people can tell which direction the call is coming from. So an offensive lineman will have to be a hell of a ventriloquist to get a guy line up in front of him to believe that its someone behind that guy making a call. I'm just saying