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NFL players filing bankruptcy after 2 years retirement

NYSPORTS98 : 7/18/2009 12:53 pm
Can you believe this. According to Clark Howard on CNN along with multiple sources on "google', etc, 78% of NFL players file for bankruptcy only 2 years after retirement.

I'm speechless.
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i would be interested in seeing  
Les in TO : 7/18/2009 12:59 pm : link
whether the stats include players who tried out but failed to make an nfl team...you take a serious financial gamble when you invest all of your time and money into playing a game where the payoff is high but the chances of making it to the elite ranks are very low. a lot of players have nothing to fall back on when their playing days are cut short or dreams of making it pro are never reached.

that said, a lot of players enjoy fancy cars, bling and strip clubs.
As regards those players who received big money during their  
Big Blue '56 : 7/18/2009 1:03 pm : link
NFL days, why do they feel it's necessary to invest in potentially unstable businesses(Restaurants, Car dealerships, etc)rather than safeguard their money and live like Kings? Hell, even if they just bought CDs they'd be safe..
Not exactly correct  
Gary from The East End : Admin : 7/18/2009 1:03 pm : link
Quote:
By the time they have been retired for two years, 78% of former NFL players have gone bankrupt or are under financial stress because of joblessness or divorce.

How (and Why) Athletes Go Broke - ( New Window )
And before someone says it  
Big Blue '56 : 7/18/2009 1:04 pm : link
yes, I know many might have been products of the Ghettos, but that's where trusted(a possible oxymoron)advisors come in
Because you give kids, often who are poorly educated  
sg0508 : 7/18/2009 1:09 pm : link
and rough around the edges too much $$$, and they'll make bad decisions and get into the wrong crowd.
that's what happens  
oipolloi : 7/18/2009 1:11 pm : link
when high schools and colleges just push you through because you are an athlete and don't insist that you learn anything

it's a complete and utter scandal what goes on with college athletics
I can believe it  
J : 7/18/2009 1:21 pm : link
Not really surprising
After watching Pacman  
Lowell.. : 7/18/2009 1:34 pm : link
"make it rain", I can believe it.
Have you seen the way alot of these guys live and act??  
Jint Fan in Buc Land : 7/18/2009 1:37 pm : link
It's not surprising at all. I'd have probably pull the 3/4 stat out of my head with no research.

Heck not to mention the average salary isn't even a million.
That's where a lack of education will kill you. If you can't manage  
sg0508 : 7/18/2009 1:43 pm : link
your finances, eventually, you'll lose it all and a lot of these guys have no other skills but playing sports. Once they retire, they don't make another dime.

If I were to make $2M per year, I put almost all that money in t-bills and the interest alone will be enough. Then again, I wouldn't live an extravant lifestyle anyhow.
Another reason why I will NEVER have a agent or someone  
HillBillyJack : 7/18/2009 1:45 pm : link
"to handle MY MONEY" if I ever won like 100 million or more in the Lottery .......That is why GOD gave us a brain, good accountants, H@R Block and calculators.
a lot of people with good educations  
JoeD1 : 7/18/2009 1:46 pm : link
SUCk with money too. The players are just dumb and no, t his doesnt surprise me at all.
Think about it. How many of them go out and start buying the  
sg0508 : 7/18/2009 1:49 pm : link
expensive cars, houses, toys and treat everyone to everythign right away? Too many of them probably. Eventually, the money runs out.

And yes, the drugs, for those that are into that or find their way into it, seem so wipe them out even faster.
Not to mention the taxes on their salaries  
Kyle : 7/18/2009 1:53 pm : link
Its not an excuse for their lavish tastes and living, but people often forget to pretty much halve whatever salary these guys are making in order to discuss what they really earn in a year.
It's not anywhere near half.  
Gary from The East End : Admin : 7/18/2009 2:18 pm : link
Top marginal tax rate is 35%
Thanks for the correction, Gary  
Kyle : 7/18/2009 2:24 pm : link
I always thought it was 45% at a certain income level (400Kish and above). I was wrong.

35% is still a pretty damn big chunk of change. Their free-spending stupidity probably gets magnified by the fact they're not making as much as they think when they sign for that gigantic contract extension.

Note: this is certainly not a woe-is-the-rich-athlete post.
social security tax drops off  
oipolloi : 7/18/2009 2:40 pm : link
after $86,000 or what ever the number is now.

So, actually people are paying slightly less marginally once they get over $100,000

somehow they always forget about that one when they talk about how much rich people pay in taxes

the people who really get screwed by taxes are single people with no kids who don't own a home and make between 50,000-90,000
Obviously, it's still a big hit  
Gary from The East End : Admin : 7/18/2009 2:45 pm : link
Plus they have to pay their agents, lawyers, etc.

I wonder if anyone has proposed taking a percentage of players salaries and putting it into some kind of annuity or trust that they can't touch until they retire from the game.
You guys are forgetting state and city taxes  
HomerJones45 : 7/18/2009 2:46 pm : link
and the medicare tax is applied to every dollar of earned income; there is no limit. The social security tax is applied to a wage base. That wage base is adjusted each year for inflation and is currently around $105,000 I believe.
I want to read the story - where is the link?  
baadbill : 7/18/2009 2:51 pm : link
This is just some statement on some guy's blog without citing or linking to any source that I can find. My 5 yo daughter just told me that less than 1/10th of one percent of pro football players ever file bankruptcy. Gee, which source is more credible?
baaad  
NYSPORTS98 : 7/18/2009 3:15 pm : link
Check with your 5 year old about CNN and Sports Illustrated.
NYSPORTS98  
baadbill : 7/18/2009 3:26 pm : link
I did - and she's a internet wizard ... but can't get me a link to the actual story... can you?
On the bright side  
ZogZerg : 7/18/2009 4:38 pm : link
It's good for the economy for those guys to be spending all their money;)
why the hell  
Bchurch : 7/18/2009 5:12 pm : link
would you link to a freakin blog and not the actual story, are you an idiot????
Wow  
Dylan fan : 7/18/2009 5:21 pm : link
"By common estimates among athletes and agents, the divorce rate for pro athletes ranges from 60% to 80%." Always wondered how folks like athletes & musicians who are always away from home can stay married. Guess they don't.
The link is in my first comment above  
Gary from The East End : Admin : 7/18/2009 5:33 pm : link
....
BB56  
jintsfan : 7/18/2009 6:08 pm : link
You are correct in your assessment. The need for the bling, the posse, the 22" rims and the free wheeling and spending, and the listening to bad advise are the main reasons they go broke.
Hill Billy  
NYSPORTS98 : 7/18/2009 7:29 pm : link
I agree with what you said until you mentioned H&R block. That place is the bottom of the accounting food chain with many employees not even certified accountants. The place belongs under "scam".
That figure comes from a must-read SI story  
cosmicj : 7/19/2009 5:27 am : link
from March (link below).

1) The threadstarter headline is very misleading. Awfuyl job there guy.

2) The prime cause of bankruptcy are child support payments to multiple kids/mothers.
How (and Why) Athletes Go Broke - ( New Window )
cosmicj  
NYSPORTS98 : 7/19/2009 12:29 pm : link
Hey prick, learn to comprehend.

I cleary gave credit to Clark Howard on CNN for reporting this. Afterwards, the same article you provided a link for was present earlier in the thread.

Try reading next time and do better than an "awful job".
NYSPORTS98  
Shawn in Jersey : 7/19/2009 1:10 pm : link
While may not have been intentional, you clearly butchered the main fact in your original post. That's what was misleading.
Shawn  
NYSPORTS98 : 7/19/2009 1:16 pm : link
take it up with CNN as there are players filing after 2 years. If you aren't a fan of the percentages just wait for them to rise in this economy.

Try not to be anal either unless you're sold these are actually sound business people.
From your own link  
Shawn in Jersey : 7/19/2009 1:42 pm : link
"Seventy-eight percent of former NFL players are bankrupt or under financial stress within two years of retirement."

You left out the or, which is very important, considering that the link Gary posted clarifies that stress, "because of joblessness or divorce." So what the article is saying is that within 2 years of leaving the NFL 78% of players are bankrupt, divorced, or unemployed, HUGE difference to 78% of players filing bankruptcy.
HELLO???  
NYSPORTS98 : 7/19/2009 2:01 pm : link
I quoted Howard Clark from CNN. Some of you really need to take an English class b/c the selective reading and comprehension is comical.
You're quoting Clark Howard?  
Peter in Atlanta : 7/19/2009 2:11 pm : link
Where is Clark Howard in the link you provided?
Let's see a link  
Shawn in Jersey : 7/19/2009 2:14 pm : link
to your quote.
I just saw the clip  
Shawn in Jersey : 7/19/2009 2:21 pm : link
and he did misquote the report as well. However, the original report, and the article you linked, both show that the 78% entails a lot more then just bankruptcy. So congrats, Clark Howard joins you in butchering the facts of this case.
yeah  
NYSPORTS98 : 7/19/2009 2:55 pm : link
those players having financial issues are on their way to prospertity as opposed to bankruptcy right? Can you be more anal? Probably not
Where's Clark Howard in your link?  
Peter in Atlanta : 7/19/2009 3:02 pm : link
Is there a reason you didn't provide it?
Hey Peter  
NYSPORTS98 : 7/19/2009 3:17 pm : link
I gave credit to him in my opening. He interviewing Atlanta Braves by the way "Brian McCann was one of them. I'm not as anal as you so "no" I didn't record the material and upload it to prove a point to anal prick.

Take the article for what it apparently not worth to you or the anal society.
What's so anal about asking for valid facts?  
JonC : 7/19/2009 4:33 pm : link
Howabout just owning up to a mistake like an adult?
I never said any of those things were  
Shawn in Jersey : 7/19/2009 4:49 pm : link
good, just a big difference between a player being divorced, and being bankrupt.
and Shawn  
NYSPORTS98 : 7/19/2009 7:49 pm : link
they both add up bankruptcy and financial issues don't they? WTF is the agenda here? Do the anal people have anything else to do? Ironically, the same post was made on 3 different sites with zero anals. Shocking!
What the fuck are you saying?  
Peter in Atlanta : 7/19/2009 8:43 pm : link
All I asked was why you put a link up that didn't go with your post. You claim to quote Clark Howard and yet didn't link him. You linked something else; something that didn't back up your post.

If expecting a link to support a post makes me anal, then, I'm an asshole.

I put a link up  
NYSPORTS98 : 7/19/2009 9:46 pm : link
to prove Clark didn't pull it out of his ass. Moments later, another poster posted a link to Sports Illustrated. The players are having financial difficulites and 78% of them have these issues (bankruptcy or the highway to bankruptcy) only 2 years after retirement. Who cares how they got there (ie divorce, bad investments, or speaking online to anal idiots)

Get a life
Some people sure have difficulty  
Mad Mike : 7/19/2009 9:56 pm : link
with the concept of quitting when you're behind. Fun to watch, if nothing else.
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