it comes to the point where would you rather have one guy out there repeatedly trying to seriously injure guys, or would you rather just have the one guy injured, so multiple other guys won't be seriously injured.
If the guy in question didn't have along history of this, then it wouldn't be fair. But the fact is he has a long history of doing this, and even after being fined last week, still tries the same shit the very next game.
So yes, I'd much rather the one guy injured than a bunch of other (innocent) guys getting taken out.
Ethics is all about holding steady despite the circumstances. Either it is ok to cause injury or wish injury upon someone or it is not. Regardless of the situation.
The league should get Adams off the field with a suspension. If they don't, an injury that would get Adams off the field is the next best thing. Doesn't mean I'm rooting for someone to intentionally injure Adams. Since we know he is trying to injure people, it would be better if he were injured first, to remove the threat to other players.
to injure someone. But the fact he is just injured someone last week, got fined for it, and still tried the same exact thing the next game. So injuring someone doesn't seem to bother him.
And no one is saying it's agood thing for him to be injured. But if faced with the choice of having numerous guys get injured week in and week out, or just him, the choice is too easy.
what's the difference between a murderer getting put on death row then? Same thing isn't it, ending someone's life before it's pre-allotted time so that he doesn't inflict more harm on society at large? Isn't that akin to murder of a murderer?
Granted, murder and leg whips are different things altogether, but I'm not surprised to see such feelings being aired in response to Adams continued brazen violations.
Okay, so a guy like say, Eli, who plays by the rules:
But a guy like Adams, who blatantly disregards the rules and is allowed to keep playing because the system in place merely penalizes through fines and/or possible suspension should be free from my wish that he suffer a season/career ending injury?
We'll have to agree to disagree on this one. You can bet your ass if he effed up a team mate of mine and nothing was done about it, I'd break his fingers next time we were in a pile together.
and doesn't require one to drop their own ethics. You're minimizing the total number oth injuries by having the offender who's injuring people get injured. Popper wrote an article in SI about this in the 90's.
he said something to the effect of "Get up. If you can't get up, then don't get up. Otherwise get up." Something like that. Last night, I didn't watch the game, but my wife was watching, and I heard the announcers say at one point that Flozell was down. "Get up!" I was hollering in my head. What an ass! What a schlamoe! What a maroon! I would tell him so to his face, even if it did mean that I'd be flattened the next second. He is one great big huge piece of shit of a man!
The beat writers need to pick this up and make a story of it.
the move is illegal is due to it being easy to injure someone that way.
So whether or not he's "intending to injure" as such, isn't the point. He knows it can lead to an injury as he did to Tuck and later in the game he did it again! The fat fuck! (I meant you there)
even if you are beat on a play there is no excuse for that kind of cheap shot. I keep hearing the argument that we would want our o-line to protect our QB anyway they could, and I disagree. If one of our guys got beat and if opened up a free hit at Eli I am 100% behind grabbing a handful and riding him to the ground. However what Adams does is low class and is getting guys hurt. He should be suspended because fining him has proven to be ineffective.
The goal isn't to hurt him, it's to keep him from hurting others. Most people here would rather see his suspended. Since that doesn't seem to be happening, the choice comes down to hurting the culprit or allowing him to rack up more victims.
Yes, in a utilitarian sense, the league is better off having someone
had cheap-shotted him that Flozell gets nothing done to him and our player is suspended and possibly done for the year. It's always the 2nd man that gets caught.
to all of those bullshit trips and holds this guy gets away with week after week, i noticed last night during the crayton end around adams blatantly dove at a defenders legs right at the knees. dude's a total scumbag.
injured. Any guy who constantly ries to hurt people deserves to get what he tries to give. Its one thing to play hard, its another to disregard the safety of opponents.
He moves slower than the tin man and once he is going in one direction, he is done. Cannot change direction to save his fat ass life. Ergo, he goes for the easy leg whip.
If the guy in question didn't have along history of this, then it wouldn't be fair. But the fact is he has a long history of doing this, and even after being fined last week, still tries the same shit the very next game.
So yes, I'd much rather the one guy injured than a bunch of other (innocent) guys getting taken out.
He's a repeat offender.
Adios Flozell, one way or the other.
Enough with the self-righteous bullshit.
Does it make me self-righteous to never, ever view an injured NFL player as a good thing? I don't think so.
And no one is saying it's agood thing for him to be injured. But if faced with the choice of having numerous guys get injured week in and week out, or just him, the choice is too easy.
Granted, murder and leg whips are different things altogether, but I'm not surprised to see such feelings being aired in response to Adams continued brazen violations.
But a guy like Adams, who blatantly disregards the rules and is allowed to keep playing because the system in place merely penalizes through fines and/or possible suspension should be free from my wish that he suffer a season/career ending injury?
We'll have to agree to disagree on this one. You can bet your ass if he effed up a team mate of mine and nothing was done about it, I'd break his fingers next time we were in a pile together.
And I wouldn't lose a minute of sleep over it.
So whether or not he's "intending to injure" as such, isn't the point. He knows it can lead to an injury as he did to Tuck and later in the game he did it again! The fat fuck! (I meant you there)
This does not warrant "wishing" or being satisfied with injury to said player. It's black and white.
maybe not enough to want somebody to purposely take him out, but almost.
Fuck him.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/09/29/flozell-adams-is-still-tripping/ - ( New Window )
To me he is doing this on this particular play in the hopes someone who is whipping his ass does get injured