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From last night:
Should be suspended.
that's one more for the file there..
bunch of cheating MF'ers.
Now what would have happened if Peppers got hurt on that play, would Fuckzell still have gotten a $12K fine. Unbelievable.
He must have had about 3 or 4 penalties last night, this ass lacks discipline.
with him and Roy Williams on the same team for years, is there any question why the Giants always used to come out of the cowboys game so banged up.
even on often dirty players (and hated division rivals) like Dawkins. But last night when Adams went down on that big Cowboy run, I didn't give a shit if he was injured or not.
I hope the NFL takes notice on this guy. I guess it " no injury no foul."
It's not at all silly to say that, either. An NFL GM this past week also said the league needs to consider a suspension here.
IWe need to send a copy of this link to the NFL...attention head of officiating.
on the play against Adams. 2 weeks - 2 fines. They need to suspend him a game for him to get the message.
Look - they went out and named a new freakin' penalty after Roy Williams, and managed to issue a whopping 1 game suspension after the guy racked up 3 in a row. Flozell isn't going to be dealt with by the league.
I sure hope Tuck gets a good piece of him though.
1. Cowboys win.
2. Adams' injury wasn't serious.
which was a pretty obvious one. I don't think Adams was called for the one on that gif.
Adams was already fined after weeks 1 and 2. If he gets fined again this week, that would be 3 weeks in a row. Time for a suspension.
But a suspension for a long time serves the same purpose, especially since he wouldn't be paid! Ouch!
So if the league won't take him off the field, an injury might have to.
Nothing at all wrong with wanting to protect other players from this dirtbag's tricks.
when he does it....big wuss
Last week's fine was for two incidents: One on Tuck and one on Osi.
as obviously a fine does nothing (pocket change, why should he care?). To keep doing it repeatedly after being flagged/fined is terrible, and proof that a fine won't stop it. Even more egregious is his act that he isn't doing anything wrong.
Likely nothing happnes though.
this is a sign his skills have diminished greatly if he has to resort to this type of thing. The league, I would suspect, will be watching him closely which means a possible suspension for future infractions.
The result will be that he will be beaten more cleanly and Romo will get punished more as Adams has to stop this tactic in order to avoid fines, penalties, suspensions. This increases the chance that Romo will get hurt.
he should get a 2 game suspension.
I hope his leg breaks off next game.
if Flozell actually connected with all of his strength and at the right angle, he would/could put a player out for a very long time with a very serious injury.
I never wish injuries on someone, but with Flozell's continued history of this, I have to admit I was alittle disappointed he was able to walk off last night.
Sue me.
was done for the year, as well.
Fuck him.
hope this guy is injured."
to that piece of shit.
I hope he's healthy for our second game with Dallas. So does Justin Tuck.
you're kidding, right?
This dip shit is going to end someone's career with his BS.
He should finish his first.
the hatred for flozell clearly stems from him being a repeat offender of that leg whip. he very well could have forced us to miss both Osi and Tuck for a few games, and he wasn't all that remorseful either. it's his insistance that he's going to keep using that leg whip where all this is coming from.
I can't think of a situation involving a player sustaining a serious injury being a positive. Ever.
When the player is question has none, you can throw ethics out the window.
Can someone post it on tinypic.com?
your own ethics, that's what works for you.
I'm never ok with saying, "This guy has murdered so many people, we should murder him because murder is wrong."
there's nothing unethical about being glad he's off the field.
and kill Hitler, but Doc was like, "Roads? Roads?"
Or is it just an emotional, bloodthirsty response and craving for revenge?
so he doesn't do it again.
these are emotional responses
it comes to the point where would you rather have one guy out there repeatedly trying to seriously injure guys, or would you rather just have the one guy injured, so multiple other guys won't be seriously injured.
If the guy in question didn't have along history of this, then it wouldn't be fair. But the fact is he has a long history of doing this, and even after being fined last week, still tries the same shit the very next game.
So yes, I'd much rather the one guy injured than a bunch of other (innocent) guys getting taken out.
You have to shoot yourself for that to happen, or start a dog fighting ring in your back yard.
I don't care how he's dealt with.
He's a repeat offender.
Adios Flozell, one way or the other.
Ethics is all about holding steady despite the circumstances. Either it is ok to cause injury or wish injury upon someone or it is not. Regardless of the situation.
The league should get Adams off the field with a suspension. If they don't, an injury that would get Adams off the field is the next best thing. Doesn't mean I'm rooting for someone to intentionally injure Adams. Since we know he is trying to injure people, it would be better if he were injured first, to remove the threat to other players.
Enough with the self-righteous bullshit.
to overlook that in this special circumstance.
Is he playing in a dangerous way, outside of the rules of the game, in a way that is likely to (and already has) caused injury? Absolutely.
Does it make me self-righteous to never, ever view an injured NFL player as a good thing? I don't think so.
to injure someone. But the fact he is just injured someone last week, got fined for it, and still tried the same exact thing the next game. So injuring someone doesn't seem to bother him.
And no one is saying it's agood thing for him to be injured. But if faced with the choice of having numerous guys get injured week in and week out, or just him, the choice is too easy.
don't seem to indicate he cares that he is injuring someone. Fuck him.
what's the difference between a murderer getting put on death row then? Same thing isn't it, ending someone's life before it's pre-allotted time so that he doesn't inflict more harm on society at large? Isn't that akin to murder of a murderer?
Granted, murder and leg whips are different things altogether, but I'm not surprised to see such feelings being aired in response to Adams continued brazen violations.
we don't wish injury on him. I'll buy that.
But a guy like Adams, who blatantly disregards the rules and is allowed to keep playing because the system in place merely penalizes through fines and/or possible suspension should be free from my wish that he suffer a season/career ending injury?
We'll have to agree to disagree on this one. You can bet your ass if he effed up a team mate of mine and nothing was done about it, I'd break his fingers next time we were in a pile together.
And I wouldn't lose a minute of sleep over it.
and doesn't require one to drop their own ethics. You're minimizing the total number oth injuries by having the offender who's injuring people get injured. Popper wrote an article in SI about this in the 90's.
he said something to the effect of "Get up. If you can't get up, then don't get up. Otherwise get up." Something like that. Last night, I didn't watch the game, but my wife was watching, and I heard the announcers say at one point that Flozell was down. "Get up!" I was hollering in my head. What an ass! What a schlamoe! What a maroon! I would tell him so to his face, even if it did mean that I'd be flattened the next second. He is one great big huge piece of shit of a man!
Then maybe BSPN will pick it up, then the league will have to do something.
and suspened. That is out right wrong. This guy is going to hurt someone. What a cheat and a POS.
It's one thing to openly root for an injury, but when a dirty POS like that gets hurt, I'm looking the other way not feeling one ounce of sympathy.
You mean hurt someone again.
I hope someone on a pass rush "trips" while bull rushing Flozell and "accidentally" falls into his knees.
the move is illegal is due to it being easy to injure someone that way.
So whether or not he's "intending to injure" as such, isn't the point. He knows it can lead to an injury as he did to Tuck and later in the game he did it again! The fat fuck! (I meant you there)
comes around; Flozell's day will come and nobody will feel bad about it.
reasonably know the prohibited act may lead to injury, then you intend to injure. I think Flozell intends to injure if you apply that standard.
even if you are beat on a play there is no excuse for that kind of cheap shot. I keep hearing the argument that we would want our o-line to protect our QB anyway they could, and I disagree. If one of our guys got beat and if opened up a free hit at Eli I am 100% behind grabbing a handful and riding him to the ground. However what Adams does is low class and is getting guys hurt. He should be suspended because fining him has proven to be ineffective.
The goal isn't to hurt him, it's to keep him from hurting others. Most people here would rather see his suspended. Since that doesn't seem to be happening, the choice comes down to hurting the culprit or allowing him to rack up more victims.
that is going to cause injuries out of action even if it is due to injury itself.
This does not warrant "wishing" or being satisfied with injury to said player. It's black and white.
I'd be very comfortable with that play.
had cheap-shotted him that Flozell gets nothing done to him and our player is suspended and possibly done for the year. It's always the 2nd man that gets caught.
to all of those bullshit trips and holds this guy gets away with week after week, i noticed last night during the crayton end around adams blatantly dove at a defenders legs right at the knees. dude's a total scumbag.
"Cheap shots are wrong, so let's cheap shot that guy!"
He got hurt on that play.
didn't realize that,i hate flozell so much.
maybe not enough to want somebody to purposely take him out, but almost.
it up and payback with be a bitch. You just don't do that and expect no retaliation as a result.
injured. Any guy who constantly ries to hurt people deserves to get what he tries to give. Its one thing to play hard, its another to disregard the safety of opponents.
Fuck him.
get even. I just hope he gets a bit of karma on his fat ass.
Nice job Wellington, and thanks MG for passing it along.
I wasn't sure if he'd actually post it though, nice.
put a scrub in to dive at his leg and if he gets tossed and suspended the other DL should take a collection for him!!
He moves slower than the tin man and once he is going in one direction, he is done. Cannot change direction to save his fat ass life. Ergo, he goes for the easy leg whip.
Not hard, but he's purposely kicking the guy's leg out. I can't see how that's not illegal.
It's a handoff for a run away from Peppers, so the argument that he is just protecting his qb is gone as well as saying he is protecting the HB.
To me he is doing this on this particular play in the hopes someone who is whipping his ass does get injured
a Rockette, or Bruce Lee, or kicking Romo by accident. Or killing Kenny. There's a photoshop challenge.
