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Nasif08 : 1/26/2010 9:15 am
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According to the Dallas Morning News, the "entire Cowboys contingent perked up" when Idaho OG Mike Iupati weighed in Monday at the Senior Bowl.
A guard in college, Iupati could probably play as many as four positions on the offensive line at the next level because of his impressive build and incredibly long arms. The Cowboys are especially needy at the tackle spots.


Oh please God no, this guy would anchor the Cowboy's Offensive Line for a Decade.

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According to an ESPN report earlier this month, Alabama NT Terrence Cody weighed "right around" 355 pounds on January 5.
In other words, Cody appears to have gained 15 pounds (he measured 6'4/370 at the Senior Bowl) in the last 20 days. Cody's body appeared sloppy, to put it mildly, when he removed his shirt for Monday's weigh-in. While weight fluctuation is a routine concern for clogging, nose-tackle types, Cody is already resembling a late-career Ted Washington at age 21.


Already weight issues with this guy and we havent even hit the Combine yet? Do you want this unmotivated beast on your team?



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Wisconsin DE O'Brien Schofield tore his left ACL on the first day of Senior Bowl practices Monday.
The Defensive MVP of last week's East-West Shrine Game, Schofield ranked second in the nation in tackles for loss and second in the Big Ten in sacks as a fifth-year senior. He was a probable second- to third-round pick before the injury, but now may fall out of the draft altogether. Some team is still likely to sign and stash Schofield on I.R. for 2010 because of his upside.


Promising top 4 round pick, now likely an undrafted FA...Giants better jump on the phone ASAP after the draft if the case...kid can play and can be stashed on our I.R.

From yesterday but for those who missed it an eye-opening look into the character of Mays...(Personality rubs me the wrong way with a lot of these arrogant USC guys)

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USC S Taylor Mays reportedly drew the ire of an NFL pro personnel man when he leveled Citadel WR Andre Roberts on the first day of Senior Bowl practices.
NFL types want to see DBs make plays on the football in drills, not take out 5'11/192-pound return specialists in the open field. This is especially true in Mays' case. He only had five interceptions as a four-year starter at Southern Cal, with just two of the picks coming in his last three seasons.


And Other Blurbs of interest...


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Kyle Wilson, the CB from Boise State was the biggest standout of the day. During the CB vs. WR drill, Wilson undercut an out route for an interception on his first rep and was an offensive pass interference away from another on a nine route. Wilson was a premier punt returner in college, which means he is dangerous after an interception.


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Dan Williams had a good day stuffing the run, at least as good as possible without full pads. He didn't do well in pass rushing drills, however, which is a drill designed to favor the defensive player. I'm not particularly concerned if the DT Rick Smith drafts is an elite pass rusher as long as he can stuff the middle, so this development might actually be beneficial.


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Myron Rolle is a popular story because of his year hiatus from football as a Rhodes Scholar at Oxford, but unfortunately that break has caused some rust. He has plenty of time before the Combine and his Pro Day, but even then he is considered more of a strong safety who lacks coverage skills. Probably not a consideration for the Texans.


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Offensive Guard Vladimir Ducasse will be under the microscope this week. Ducasse moved to the States from Haiti when he was 14 and has only played football for six years, but he has enough raw talent that Mayock compared him to Jeff Otah. On his first pass rush drill the quicker O'Brien Schofield blew by him on the edge as Ducasse was playing LT. Before the analysts could even finish stating that Ducasse never saw speed like that at UMass, Ducasse went against Schofield again, anchored down and unfortunately injured Schofield when he fell on him. I mention all this because he is rated as a guard and could be a steal after the first couple of rounds.


Credit Rotoworld & Battleredblog for the info, feel free to update & discuss as the day goes on about prospective Giants Draft Selections
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Will A/P,  
barens : 1/26/2010 11:35 am : link
you mean like against Witten, Cooley, and Celek twice a year? : )

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BleedingBlue2 : 1/26/2010 11:41 am : link
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1 other DL who drew an "Ooh" from onlookers was Arkansas State's Alex Carrington, who Obliterated Idaho OT Mike Iupati on a bull rush
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BleedingBlue2 : 1/26/2010 11:41 am : link
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Michigan DE Brandon Graham making himself some $ this morn. Very impressive in 1-on-1 drills.
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BleedingBlue2 : 1/26/2010 11:43 am : link
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Brandon Ghee stuggling in the press coverage drill
Wow so Iupati  
Nasif08 : 1/26/2010 11:45 am : link
isnt the second coming of Steve Hutchinson? But BBI said so?
Nasif...  
BleedingBlue2 : 1/26/2010 11:49 am : link
no so fast...

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Iupati getting work at LT...looks uncomfortable out in space


Just saw this, he is working out as a LT.
Nasif  
Will Allen/Peterson : 1/26/2010 11:50 am : link
LOL, it was one play man
mays will struggle in coverage?  
Smicksingham : 1/26/2010 11:52 am : link
Ugh you people make my head hurt

In college they run different defensive schemes. In the pros he won't be lined up 1 on 1 against WRs. He will cover TEs and if he is a SS he will be in the box and cover flats. You people make it like mays has to go one on one with randy moss. Shit learn the difference between pro and college schemes and SS and FS
stu  
Smicksingham : 1/26/2010 11:56 am : link
As good as a safety kurt coleman was in college he was really struggling in moble in coverage. Mike from walterfootball.com said he had no movement in his hips and looked lost in space. But he will develop with time
Will A/P  
Nasif08 : 1/26/2010 11:57 am : link
im only kiddin lol...love how BBI always goes head over heels for a few guys during this time
Nasif  
DCPollaro : 1/26/2010 12:00 pm : link
you seem to be the one going head over heals with all of your descriptions and what not...
Update time  
Will Allen/Peterson : 1/26/2010 12:02 pm : link
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49ers head coach Mike Singletary has settled in to keep an eye on the defensive linemen, as has a representative of the Vikings scouting staff. Mike Iupati looks unbeatable at guard during one-on-one drills, but gets beaten badly at times when moved to LT. Ducasse's struggles continue as he's beaten all four times during one-on-ones.


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Michigan DE/OLB Brandon Graham is causing fits for UMass OT/OG Vladimir Ducasse in drills. Graham is the most explosive defender on the field. In addition, OG/OT Mike Iupati stoned Purdue DT Mike Neal twice during linemen drills. Scouts like Iupati as an OT, which will dramatically increase his draft value.


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A fun drill to watch as there's spirited competition between linebackers and running backs doing one-on-on drills, with linebackers attempting to get to the QB. Sean Weatherspoon is again the clear vocal leader and his power and finesse dominates in two reps against Division 2 running back Joique Bell (Wayne State). Also in these drills, Utah OLB Koa Misi is playing with purpose. He's explosive and showing good push.


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Nebraska LB Phillip Dillard is struggling a bit in pass coverage while trying to cover tight ends. Michigan LB Brandon Graham is just about unblockable with his speed and spin moves.
barens  
Will Allen/Peterson : 1/26/2010 12:02 pm : link
Yes, that's what I was referring to
I wonder how much Iupati  
Phil in LA : 1/26/2010 12:04 pm : link
has worked at OLT before.
Sean Weatherspoon  
Nasif08 : 1/26/2010 12:05 pm : link
looks to be a well-rounded player...hope hes on our radar in the 2nd round
Brandon Graham would look good in blue  
RobNYG : 1/26/2010 12:05 pm : link
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11-on-11 drills  
Will Allen/Peterson : 1/26/2010 12:07 pm : link
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The North Team is starting 11-on-11 drills. Again Missouri MLB Sean Weatherspoon's enthusiasm is contagious. He's very energetic on the field! The drills start with RB Joique Bell shaking and baking through linebackers for a long touchdown. Bell, the small-school runner, is showing good awareness running behind his blockers and falling forward in limited spaces.
RobNYG  
DCPollaro : 1/26/2010 12:07 pm : link
your a michigan guy...sirius crew was saying he may project more as a 3-4 OLB...dont see us going after him
i think he's too slow for OLB  
RobNYG : 1/26/2010 12:09 pm : link
his best fit is a 4-3 DE IMO although his height is not ideal for the position

I really...  
BleedingBlue2 : 1/26/2010 12:09 pm : link
would love Daryl Washington, the more I read about him, the more I would love his speed at LB.
Taylor Mays might be the best option at 15  
bois : 1/26/2010 12:11 pm : link
Can't ignore the fact that the Giants have a gaping hole at safety. Phillips is the only bright spot, and there's no guarantee that he returns or represents any kind of long term fixture at safety. Arthritis in the knee at his age, Phillips might be a washout. Even if he comes back and plays well the team needs another safety. Mays sounds like a talented, physical player. I don't care about INT numbers...if the Giants are going to hold out for a safety who can play the run effectively, stay with receivers deep and has tremendous hands..well..the Giants might be waiting forever. Ed Reed and Sean Taylor don't show up in the draft every year or even every few years. Maybe Berry is that guy, but he's out of reach.


I'd rather see this team go after Mays than some DT.
Bleeding Blue  
armstead98 : 1/26/2010 12:16 pm : link
Washington was awesome in the bowl game. He was all over the field making plays.
RobNYG  
DCPollaro : 1/26/2010 12:17 pm : link
we will see how he tests
they said he caught javon ringer from behind on a long run 2 yrs ago and saved a TD
also were comparing him to elvis dumerville
thats true, he also gets compared a lot to everett brown  
RobNYG : 1/26/2010 12:18 pm : link
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Imagine your dreams come crashing down  
adam XLII : 1/26/2010 12:53 pm : link
on your first day of Senior Bowl practice...

Schofield was the leader and far away the best player on Wisconsin this past year. The team who stashes him is going to stash a real winner.
I'm about as afraid of Iupati falling to the Cowboys  
santacruzom : 1/26/2010 1:16 pm : link
as I'm afraid of Suh falling to the Eagles. Neither are going to happen. Iupati may not even "fall" to us... I think the 9'ers will snatch him up.
From Sy...  
BleedingBlue2 : 1/26/2010 1:41 pm : link
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When Blount gets a head of steam in space he is impossibe to take down with 1 tackler

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Chiefs GM Scott Pioli just a few feet away, saying some good words about Blount

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WR Mardy Gilyard showing some stone hands today. dropping some easy balls
and when Blount's  
santacruzom : 1/26/2010 1:49 pm : link
fist gathers a head of steam it's impossible to stop it with merely one face.
Anak  
Rich in L.A. : 1/26/2010 2:02 pm : link
Stop making idiotic comments like "Mays couldn't cover anyone in college". Patently absurd if you actually watched the guy play. He got burned for probably 2 long passes in his entire CAREER. The rest of the time he was so far back that "covering" anyone man-on-man wasn't even an option.

Holy crap, some of you think you actually know these players based on some nonsense you read.
Rich  
Will Allen/Peterson : 1/26/2010 2:10 pm : link
The sad part is that those misconceptions about Mays are going to circulate amongst those who haven't seen him play and aren't familiar with him or how he was utilized (i.e. comparisons to Roy Williams, saying he can't cover at all, etc). The anti-Mays BBI contingent is going to have a field day if he messes up at all in Senior Bowl practices or shows stiff hips in coverage drills at the Combine.

It's easy to make someone look like a world beater or an absolute bum in a YouTube clip.
Rich  
Anakim : 1/26/2010 2:14 pm : link
We're not going to play a zone scheme (which Mays belongs in, mind you). He's below average in Man coverage; he's a SS in the NFL. I believe we already have that in Kenny Phillips. Mays has very stiff hips
WA/P  
Dubs : 1/26/2010 2:14 pm : link
It's the combination of stiff hips (which he has), mediocre instincts (which he has), shoddy tackling ability (which he has), bad angles (which he takes), a tendency to pile on (which he does) and a tendency to aim for the big hit rather than complete the play (which he does).

I haven't been routinely impressed with Mays for two seasons now, and I've seen 15 or so USC games in that time.

I'm not sure what to make of him in the pros...he can be coached and put in a scheme that maximizes his talents...but his collegiate production points to a lot of risk.

Point is: if he wasn't an athletic freak, he would never come up in a draft discussion. And that troubles me.
Anyway, it seems like the Oregon guys are doing work in practice  
Dubs : 1/26/2010 2:16 pm : link
Wes Bunting gave Ed Dickson a glowing review, and I'm not surprised that Blount got a lot of love. Think of a bit slower, but more physical Adrian Peterson, with a nice little case of the crazy to boot.
Thank you, Dubsy!  
Anakim : 1/26/2010 2:17 pm : link
He has tools to work with but if you want to go by pure production, he's not a first round pick. Not even a second round pick
Dubs  
Rich in L.A. : 1/26/2010 2:24 pm : link
I can accept your aforementioned comments on Mays because they have merit. I myself have been quite vocal about Mays and his stiff hips and his issues playing the ball in the air.

But saying "he couldn't cover anyone in college" is just silly. Mays was defending the deep half of the field on virtually every play and almost never got challenged deep. When he did get beaten, it was by a whisker-- the perfect throw from Clausen to Tate for a TD, this year, for example. Mays was a heartbeat late on that play. He wasn't late on plays like that last year (gee, maybe the knee injury DID make a difference)-- ask the Cal WR's who kept getting separated from the ball as it arrived on about a half-dozen occasions.

I'm not saying Mays is a great cover guy, I actually agree with Amtoft that his position in the NFL is strong safety, where he can creep up to the LOS and throw that big body around. But the picture being painted here is laughable, as if Mays has been burned over and over again in his college career. False, if you actually bothered watching the kid play.
Excellent post, Rich  
JonC : 1/26/2010 2:25 pm : link
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Rich  
Anakim : 1/26/2010 2:27 pm : link
So how is he not a project CONSIDERING he's very raw in coverage (based on what you said, it was the scheme that brouht unfair criticism to Mays).

I mean we have a SS already. His name is Kenny Phillps
Rich  
Dubs : 1/26/2010 2:28 pm : link
I'd agree with that. I really, really liked Sy's comparison to Adrian Wilson. Put him in that role and he could prosper. He'll need to beef up his tackling fundamentals (Wilson is an exceptional tackler...Mays is not) but it would minimize his weaknesses.

And I still think that the idea of moving him to OLB (WLB) has some merit.
BTW  
Dubs : 1/26/2010 2:31 pm : link
An article on Dickson. Not that we'd draft him, but he's been impressive. And Sean Canfield, in an effort to be exactly like Chad Pennington (the draft's best prospect-pro comparison, IMO), is making all of his throws under 15 yards and floundering when he has to throw any further.
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If Mays doesn't learn how to tackle  
Returning Video Tapes : 1/26/2010 2:31 pm : link
he is just going to be another Laron Landry.
Amtoft  
Rich in L.A. : 1/26/2010 2:32 pm : link
I don't think Mays is right for the Giants. I'm just defending some of the nonsense being tossed out about him.

Part of me does worry that if we pass up on him he'll end up being a 9-time Pro Bowler for someone else. Especially if Kenny never returns 100% from his injury. But looking at Mays objectively, I don't think he's the right fit here. He'd be better off starting from day one as a strong safety for a team that uses him to blitz and wreak havoc.
Just curious but why do you keep calling me Amtoft?  
Anakim : 1/26/2010 2:33 pm : link
Haha
Hey Rich  
Anakim : 1/26/2010 2:34 pm : link
If you cast me in of your shows, I'll change my name to Amtoft ;)
Whoops  
Rich in L.A. : 1/26/2010 2:34 pm : link
Sorry, Anak. Amtoft is a good buddy here and I'm used to talking USC-Cal with him.
All good in the hood, Rich  
Anakim : 1/26/2010 2:37 pm : link
Any new information on Dan Williams regardong the practice?
From McShay and Scouts Inc. on Iupati  
Dubs : 1/26/2010 2:39 pm : link
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There is not a weakness in Iupati's game when he's lined up at guard.


Wellll...ok!
Dubs  
Rich in L.A. : 1/26/2010 2:43 pm : link
I'd prefer that comment coming from Mayock instead of McShay/Scouts... but yeah, Iupati is an impressive guy.

Yeah, they're second class, but it's still outstanding praise  
Dubs : 1/26/2010 2:45 pm : link
In other news...Mount Cody, holy crap. Haven't seen this angle before.
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I know what Iupati's weakness is  
santacruzom : 1/26/2010 2:55 pm : link
it's that he'll be drafted before we pick. Dammit!
Dubsy  
Anakim : 1/26/2010 3:01 pm : link
I hate you for posting that picture. I wanna throw up!
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