Kurt Warner Announces Retirement

Arizona have a big question mark hanging over them. They need an elite QB in there.

played a big part in this

Unlike someone else..

Anyway. Kurt is absolutely a HoF QB, IMO... class act. He had a great run.

Glad he was a Giant.

Dockett and others practically begging Kurt to come back. That must inspire confidence in Leinart.

QB. Sorry, but he had 4, maybe 5 good seasons. That's it.

And a class act. He never had a chance with the Giants, this city was ready for Eli. Still, he handled his demotion with class and then went on to revive his career with the Cardinals.

Truly a class act. Great QB on the field and even better person off the field. I wish him nothing but the best in any future endeavors and thank him for representing the league & the Giants while he was here in an excellent manner.

he is a hall of famer, but he was a good player who had a good career. glad for him that he can get out of the game on his own terms and without any major injuries.

has my HoF vote.

definitely HOF, his career stats and his part in some of the most prolific offenses in the game cement that. Class guy too, I don't see him having the same problems letting go of football that Favre does.

rags to riches, back to rags and on to riches again....

I'm proud that he played as a Giant and even won us 5 games.

He's been a credit to his faith, himself and his family everywhere he's played.

God speed Kurt, I wish you success in all of your future endeavors.

I made the argument before the 2008 season that he'd had 5-6 excellent to elite seasons, and was a borderline candidate.

He punched his ticket to Canton after that 2008 season, he was amazing and carried the Cards to the SB. 2009 was gravy. He's in easily.

career stats? Have you actually taken a look at his career stats?

Roy Williams to beat the Pigs in Dallas.

for him coming to the league so late, his stats would be out of his world. For the time he played, he was amazing and quarterbacked the Greatest Show on Turf. One of the most accurate qb's of all time. Won a Super Bowl and brought 2 different teams there. 2 MVPs. Hes got my vote for the HOF.

5 Pro Bowls
2x All Pro
2x NFL MVP
Super Bowl MVP
3 Super Bowl Appearances
1 Super Bowl Championship

Top 3 in passing yards in a single Super Bowl--Warner ranks
1, 2 and 3. He could have easily been a 3x Super Bowl Champ and 2x Super Bowl MVP. Defense failed him twice.

101 games in 12 years. Has 32k yards and is 57-44 as a starter. Sorry, but those are pedestrian numbers, especially in today's game.

three seasons with 4,000 plus yards, >200 passes.

A. Did he take the freakin' Cardinals to the Super Bowl?

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'nuff said. - Stan

But seriously, I'm right in like with JonSmash on this one. Dude cemented it in '08.

He won a Super Bowl (with a Super Bowl MVP), lost two others (with two different teams), won two league MVPs, has playoff numbers that are simply off the charts, went to five Pro Bowls, and was probably the biggest "rags-to-riches" story we've seen in the modern era of the NFL.

The way he finished his career will get him in the Hall.

Despite not having accumulated career long stats, his play over a number of years was incredible. He also, as Amani Toomer pointed out, brought two doormat franchizes to the SB while winning once.

Some players need to be in the HoFame despite not having the longevity stats - Joe Namath is one such player and Kurt Warner is another.

He is absolutely a HOFer and to say otherwise is insane.

to do it in as short a prime as he had, missing as much time as he did, makes it even more impressive.

I consider him a better QB than a Jim Kelly type who was a slam dunk HOFer

Not the Hall of Statistical Qualification

Warner's rags to riches, grocery store stock boy-to-Super Bowl MVP, and the career that followed is the stuff of legend. It's absolutely "Hall of Fame material".

the Mara and Tisch families, and the NY Giants organization. Not many would thank such a forgettable era. Warner's a class act, and now Leinart's gotta take the reins

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That is an excellent point and very well said.

it was 11 years and he had to sit behind Eli and Leinart for most of 2 seasons.

longevity count towards something? He also benefited from some great receivers.

Honestly. He had 2 great years with the Rams, in a dome, with amazing receivers. He had 2 good years with Arizona, with amazing receivers, in a dome.

Look at his other years. Nothing special at all.
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he is a class act, and a good guy by all accounts, but i just don't consider him to be a "great" QB. he was the product of two unbelievable offenses. if you put Kerry Collins on the 1999 Rams, they win the Superbowl too.

you know he's like a super-christian, right?

just playin'

i'm with you on this one 100%.

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had one of the quickest releases ever and was deadly accurate. Not any other qb could have done what he did.

but not for everything. Career-long statistics are not the entire story. You have to look at each guy on a case-by-case basis. Otherwise, simply make the Hall of Fame for QBs a statistical calculation and screw the voting. There'd be no need to vote.

but sorry, I just don't think he should get in because of his life story. If he stuck around for a few more years and led the Cards to more playoff wins, maybe.

Warner will be in the the HOF. On the "Human Being" list, he is a first ballot shoo in. Why are there so few genuinely good "people" in sports. Of course there are many we do not know about. My favorites in football are : Warrick Dunn, Kurt Warner and Everson Walls.

Longevity for the HOF is bull shit. I'd rather see 5 or 6 GREAT seasons, than 12 just good seasons. Warner's resume more than belongs in the HOF...and I also think he is a first-ballot guy. He is one of the greats.

I believe he is a hall of famer
also glad to see his wife decided to look like a women.

those are certainly, by all accounts, 3 good ones.

In '99, Warner threw 41 TD's against 13 INTs. Good for a +28 ratio..Collins never sniffed 28 TD's in a season, let alone a +28 TD-INT ratio. Collins was Warner ulta-lite..even that's not really a good description, because Collins was never close to as accurate as Warner.

on longevity, actually, and Gale Sayers is the name that usually comes up in that context.

Warner just never struck me as that impressive. horrible pocket presence, horrible ball control, horrible mobility, and benefitted from two offenses that allowed him to sit back in the shotgun and get rid of the ball quickly. that, to me, is not a hall of fame quarterback. he's just not well-rounded enough, not a "complete" player, for lack of a better term.

Collins never had Marshall Faulk, Isaac Bruce, Tory Holt, Mike Martz, etc.

thought Jim Kelly deserved a hall of fame nod.

but I'm very iffy on him as a HOF'er. I think it I had to choose I'd say yes, but he's also had the benefit from playing in Domes and playing with amazing supporting casts.

But good luck with him post-retirement, he's an amazing story and seems like a solid person.

that another QB would have been that good in those offenses. Yes he had good teams, but the Rams didn't win after him and the Cards didn't win before him.

was more of a long-ball thrower. Do not see a good comparison there. I don't think Kerry could do what Warner could do. Joe Montana would have played well on that team.

with Chad Pennington once in which he describes the difference between a "thrower" and a "passer" being that a passer considers all three dimensions when delivering the football to his target.

By this definition, Warner is the best pure passer I've ever seen. He's made some throws that make ya wonder how he does it. If I could wish to throw the ball like anybody, it'd be like him.

Wonderful, wonderful quarterback.

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