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mmmm I am slightly intrigued but what Ive JerseyJoe : 1/5/2010 7:13 pm heard about Pewell so far |
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Phil gets it JerseyJoe : 1/5/2010 7:38 pm one of the few.....let's pray we play agressive for once and go hard for a coveted guy who's a good fit for us |
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Is this yet ANOTHER case of the Giants being too slow? JerseyJoe : 1/7/2010 6:19 pm Or too cheap? Fewell just came in and so far nothing but a couple reports that we are taking our time....UGH Are we about to let yet another prime candidate slip through our fingers once again? Ryan the only other potential better fit looks like hes staying in Cleveland. I really hope the Gmen know something we don't but with their spotty history hiring coaches I am skeptical at best. arc he isnt Gregg Williams JerseyJoe : 1/7/2010 7:59 pm but he is the best thats out there now that Ryan is gone. And unless another name pops up that we dont know of, the alternatives aren't really close in terms of fit,style etc. for this personell. |
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Fewell is the best available JerseyJoe : 1/8/2010 11:06 am He has good experience (not a never has or a has been) and can adjust the scheme to fit personell. He has run multiple looks and formations not just Tampa based on what weve read from multiple sources. And tons of reports that players greatly respond to him and that he's a great teacher of the game. Would Romeo be horrible? Probably not as this D with its talent and a couple tweaks could make a mediocre DC look good. But I still think Fewell is the best fit or a relatively thin field at this point. |
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This team is going to have a huge turnaround next year JerseyJoe : 5/25/2010 10:26 am Recent history has shown when the expectations have been lowered we coincedentally always seem to play best. After the poor showing on the field last year many are dismissing the talent that they called Super Bowl caliber just a year back. The talent hasnt changed all that much, a few players lost but quite a few quality ones added as well. Just like when we switched from Lewis to Spagnuolo I beleive all here will see the difference a good DC makes. Alot of life is based on faith in something not necessarily proven. I have faith this D is going to rebound in a big way under Fewell and the talent is certainly here to do so. Add an offense with maturing young high potential WRs and a vet pro-bowl QB, and you have a team worthy of Super Bowl contention. |
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I love the fact that while we added a couple peices JerseyJoe : 6/27/2010 5:45 pm but we havent necessarily overhauled the core of this team on D. Did we add in the draft? Sure, but many of the guys are considered guys with learning curves and arent expected to be core players right away. It will really underscore how much a difference the DC makes (hopefully for many here who didnt get it when the D plays 10X better between Lewis and Spags) |
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this D also is gonna be sick under Fewell JerseyJoe : 6/27/2010 11:47 am I cant wait. Reese doesnt beleive we need a dominant MLB in this system. He was right about the WRs (which was probably a bigger risk than this), Im going to beleive him on this one. Probably one of the top X factors in getting this years D back to a dominant level is C-Web. I think the answer will be a resounding yes and whats further Terrel Thomas may be an even better #2 than anything Spags had to work with. Corey held down the likes of TO, GBs gifted wide recievers and then Randy Moss in one of the most explosives Offenses of all time in the Super Bowl. You dont do that by accident or by some fluke. Further, This is a CB who played for a major college program and had 14 INTS! He is the goods and I believe he will resume his dominant play under a good DC who utilizes his talents as a press CB properly. The other huge X-factor is a return to ferocious Dl play. Will we go back to swarming and attacking on D? Especially swarming and creating chaos on the backfield like we did so well under Spags when our guys for the most part were healthy? I believe under the tutelage and adjustments by Fewell and Dunn, coupled with better health upfront, we could have the deepest and best Dl in all of football. Very few teams can match a quartet of Tuck,Osi,Kiwi,and Canty when all are healthy. And this isnt even considering the promising wealth of youth in the stables with most having very high pass rush potential in JPP,Sintim as well as solid DTs like Joseph and Alford. The O should continue it's play of last year and be EVEN better in the pass game as Nicks and Manningham continue to mature and improve. Im betting OL play will improve too woth Beatty taking the LT spot 9if he's ready) and diehl moving inside. Couple that with a bigtime improvement in D and I think we will see a team of similiar greatness as the one of late 2007 and most of '08. |
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Ahhh so perhaps for you the fourth time is the 'charm' JerseyJoe : 6/27/2010 11:39 am I mean this will be the fourth DC CWEB has had . We have already seen a pattern of good-bad-good for CWeb (and pretty much the D collectively) which happened to 'magically' coincide with the quality of the DC. Will you finally see the light if CWEB and the entire defense magically improves again under a good DC (which I confidently feel Fewell will be)? |
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1. Fewell JerseyJoe : 8/8/2010 12:03 pm 2. Fewell 3. Fewell Ive said this pretty much right off the bat like I did with Spagnuolo , he is going to be a huge upgrade over the previous DC. And DC (esp with an offensive minded HC) is one of the most impactful 'positions' in football. Also actually seeing them in action in preseason is going to be a big tell. I remember pretty much from the first couple pre-season games under Spags you saw us attacking. A swarming to the football that we rarely saw under Lewis. If we see similiar things and more cohesion in the secondary that will be a very nice additional indicator hopefully for the much more positive things to come. |
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with the talent on D combined with an actual legit DC JerseyJoe : 8/8/2010 12:07 pm we may see Thomas prediction of a dominant D come true (maybe not 85 Bears but something awfully good like 07 playoff Giants or even a tick better) albeit a year later! |
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cant wait to see the impact Fewell makes JerseyJoe : 7/13/2010 10:59 pm on the coverage schemes and the pass rush...Im thinking similiar impact as when we went from Lewis to Spags |
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Hey a game plan on D that actually is effective! JerseyJoe : 9/13/2010 5:39 pm I like this Perry Fewell guy! LOL... On a serious note, that was a great article. I am truly excited to see how this D continues to improve under a legit DC. Ive been saying this for awhile now. I expect the D to be as good as it was when we had our last good DC, Mr.Spagnuolo. And if the team stays healthy with all these recent additions like Canty,Rolle,Boley and the rooks we could be even better! |
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Its one thing to have an effective game plan JerseyJoe : 9/13/2010 6:05 pm and it's another to coach it ,get the players buy in and making it work. I think Fewell can do all 3 well and as they continue to improve this D has a chance to be REAL good. |
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Perry Fewell should run the Offense too JerseyJoe : 10/3/2010 9:52 pm lol |
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uh oh under a legit DC JerseyJoe : 10/11/2010 11:54 am Thomas' predictions of last year don't seem so far off now ;) |
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As I said on a few previous threads JerseyJoe : 10/27/2010 11:19 am We are very close to regaining that '07 and part of '08 form and perhaps even surpassing that. We have shown some absolute dominance at times as we are continuing to gel as a team this year. Imagine showing the kind of dominance we have hinted at with more consistency? And weve done it with giving the opposition ridiculous starting field position in addition to an amazing 21 TOs in 7 games. Thats super impressive. With how pretty darn good we are already playing, just Imagine if the opponent doesnt get an average start of the 40 yd line anymore? Just imagine if we can drop the turnover rate even by just 50%? |
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Thomas, arc can be a dweeb for sure JerseyJoe : 10/27/2010 12:00 pm but I am still trying to educate him ;) As for Thomas' lofty predictions if we had better health and Fewell running the D LAST year, it might not have been that far off. The talent was certainly there if Phillips and others stayed healthy and we had a DC with a clue. |
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lol arc JerseyJoe : 10/27/2010 12:05 pm how's that Fewell prediction looking right now nit wit? |
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If it keeps going this way then JerseyJoe : 12/26/2010 4:58 pm Only silver lining is to hope for two consecutive blowouts, a 9-7 finish, and missing the playoffs entirely. It will be yet another second half of season collapse by TC and company and perhaps finally force our overly loyal organization to finally bring in a coaching staff that will fully utilize our talent. |
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blow up the coaching staff JerseyJoe : 12/26/2010 5:49 pm and watch how the O and D magically improves next year without any huge changes in talent |
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Receivers need PHDs to run routes in this offense JerseyJoe : 12/26/2010 7:17 pm Ive been saying this for years and its been confirmed many times over in the media and by the players themselves. The players have to overthink and cant just ball. This is ridiculous and will hopefully finally and mercifully end with a new coaching staff. Yup a coaching staff overhaul is going to be a huge key here. We just have to cross our fingers this overly loyal and slow organization makes the move and is ultraggressive in bringing in the best coaching changes |
Because our coaching staff doesn't take advantage of the talent.
I can say I'm very disappointed and the stats will lie. The Giants right now have the 6th ranked defense (in ypg) although, more importantly 17th in scoring (which is really the only defensive stat that counts). That is a big improvement in scoring from 30th, but most of us expected more.
anyway, I know that wasn't the intent of your thread, but thought it was as good a place as any to mention it.
And for the record, I was not bullish on fewell. he did not have a great track record as a DC IMO (don't bother looking that up), but I was hopeful.
The inability to simply admit he's wrong astounds.
Some fuckheads revel in the giants losing, there are several people on record here already hoping we lose next week just so they get their wish for coughlin to be fired. Frankly it's pathetic.
They've played the last 5 qtrs like they have a bad case of diarrhea.
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It's like they enjoy the losses more than the wins.
I posited the thought earlier in the year during the 1-2 start but as the year went on, and after the results from the first eagle game and now the last 2 games?
Yea, I believe it to be 100% true.
Fuck em
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At least we're not talking about passing trees! I don't know if BBI has enough virtual real estate to cover all of Joke's musings on the subject.
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And Cam ... I WILL KILLZ YOU!
I have yet to see any poster who could be classified as being "a Giants fan" "take the opportunity to shit all over the team at every chance they get." In fact, I think that it is far more accurate to claim that over the last two weeks, the NFL Football Giants clearly "shit all over their fans" rather than their fans having "shit all over" the New York Football Giants.
In this instance, it is very clear that Perry Fewell was simply not prepared for the obvious game plan that the Packers implemented on offense, namely, quick passing to negate the pass rush, and targeting the middle on slants to take advantage of the absence of any professional grade linebackers being on the field for the Giants. While it could be that there is little that the Giants could have done about the absence of professional grade linebackers on the field, they could, nevertheless, have rushed four, tried to defend the pass with seven, and forced Rodgers to use his feet (essentially what the gameplan was against the Eagles. Rodgers is mobile, but he ain't no Vick.
On the offensive side of the ball, again, there was little to no preparation for the extremely obvious defensive game plan that the Packers came out with: stop the run and target the weak link in the o-line (O'Hara) as a means for doing so, thereby forcing Eli to win the game through the air against the strength of the Packers defense.
Both sides of the ball failed to adjust for the Giants, which has been a registered trademark of Coughlin's NY Giants teams since the day that he got here. Coughlin has now watched for eight consecutive quarters while the middle of his o-line got blown up by the Eagles and the Packers, and never moved to adjust by changing personnel or play calling. Coughlin was worried about 15 yards of field position (given that the best kickoff return for the Giants is typically to their own 30) moreso than possession and running time off the clock with 8 minutes left and a big lead ... simply a horrible strategy. Other gems: Coughlin refused to take appropriate action all season by bringing in a professional grade punter ... kept Duke Calhoun, who could not help this team receiving or on specials, over a player that could have mattered to this team (meaning, almost any other player) on a roster simply loaded with receivers. He refused to "dumb down" his offense, as though bringing young receivers along slowly, and adding more complication to the offense as they absorbed it over the course of their early years, was some sort of a sin that would have condemned him to eternal damnation.
Sometimes your football rooting interest wins, and sometimes it doesn't. If it's a good team, it generally plays well more often than it does not. If that's the case, when a bad game happens, intelligent fans of that team will give their team "a pass" since they understand that there have been damned few undefeated regular season teams in the NFL. Every Giants fan (including but not limited to this Board), understood that this year's roster is pretty much loaded with talent on both sides of the ball, although there are some glaring holes. Therefore they were entitled to expect many more "good performances" than bad performances, especially in "games that mattered." They haven't gotten that this season, and much of the reason for it is the Giants coaching staff, and stupid plays by many players, which is something that has lasted throughout the entire season with the coaches seemingly unable to fix that problem. While Coughlin will fine you for being on time, somehow, he appears to have no answer for motivating players to play smarter.
In case you have forgotten, check out the Cowboys' season. The Cowboys were another team loaded with talent that was being held back by an ineffectual head coach/defensive coordinator. The difference is that say what you want to about Jerry Jones, he did something about it, and their team looks much better even with their backup QB on the field. Giants fans who want Coughlin and his coaches replaced are no different than the Cowboy fans who wanted Wade out of Dallas; they are tired of being "shit on" by the team that they root for, and wanted a change, even if the change brought on something worse on a temporary basis. Giants fans should feel no differently, and they are not "bad" Giants fans for feeling that way.
Posts like mine, and like those of many others, are not attempts to "shit on" the New York Football Giants, but are instead more like prayers for relief from an intolerable situation. Posts like your latest gem about "fans shitting on the Giants" are simply chest beating in an attempt to prove yourself knowledgeable and "a good fan." Turns out that you are certainly not knowledgeable if you think that this team was properly coached this season, and you are certainly not a good fan if your position is that we should keep that kind of coaching around for another season.
Where the fuck have you been?
You're oldest post is from 12/26.
and the original post is creepy and i dont really see much of an evolution he was excited by Fewell and ended up ultimately being wrong so what? The D was looking great at times (bc of the talent) Fewell had some major fuckups. That Colt game was a disaster in strategy. Talk about foreshadowing.
You can tell from the length of my posts that in general, it takes a lot of time. I could make that up when working from home (just stay on-line longer), but I won't do that when representing clients at work, or when working from home.