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We Should Hire Josh McDaniels

Josh in the City : 1/15/2011 8:29 am
For those asking for a young & proven OC, he fits the bill on both accounts. He's creative and a great play caller. Unfortunately, looks like Spags is gonna grab him in STL.
yeah!!!  
Allen in NJ : 1/15/2011 8:30 am : link
He did a great job in Denver, didn't he??
Yea  
Josh in the City : 1/15/2011 8:33 am : link
His offense was good but the team sucked (talent wise) plus he was the HC. As just an OC, he's one of the best and will actually implement a system to utilize our talent (if coughlin allows).
Do you feel the need....  
Reb8thVA : 1/15/2011 8:37 am : link
to express every brain fart you have!
no doubting that  
simatt : 1/15/2011 8:37 am : link
McDaniels was very good as the Pats OC but ask yourself this- As an OC what has McDaniels done that KG has not?
lol  
AlbanyGiantFan : 1/15/2011 8:42 am : link
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It is fairly proven thus far  
nyfan76 : 1/15/2011 8:44 am : link
that Mcdaniels can coach offense and maximize a quarterbacks ability. He would fit very well in St. Louis. I see him and Spags as a nice combo.
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Ryan in Albany : 1/15/2011 8:45 am : link
Your almost irrational hatred of Gilbride...  
okiegiant : 1/15/2011 8:53 am : link
can't be good for your health.
oh gilbride blows  
gtt350 : 1/15/2011 8:57 am : link
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No  
bradshaw44 : 1/15/2011 8:57 am : link
Bellichecks coordinators are a product of his system and players.
...  
yankees78 : 1/15/2011 8:58 am : link
wut
i still  
simatt : 1/15/2011 9:00 am : link
don't see what McDaniels has done that KG has not.
You're Joshing us  
gidiefor : Mod : 1/15/2011 9:03 am : link
aren't you
gilbride has no guts when the game is on the line  
gtt350 : 1/15/2011 9:04 am : link
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or creativity  
gtt350 : 1/15/2011 9:04 am : link
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AND  
bradshaw44 : 1/15/2011 9:09 am : link
Gilbride beat McDaniels on the biggest stage with Eli Manning, not Tom Brady.
McDaniels is  
simatt : 1/15/2011 9:11 am : link
gutsy and creative? That's it? So ignore the statistics KG has put up and the success he has had because McDaniels is more gutsy? My question for that is, would McDaniels' 'guts' made a difference in '08, the Plax year? How about 2009, the year of the defensive collapse? Would this years team been that much better with McDaniels at the helm and not KG? These are things that have to be thought through before we just sytart throwing names out there IMO.
stats are for losers  
gtt350 : 1/15/2011 9:22 am : link
have you ever seen gilbride call a play action on third and one
i'm talking gilbride not mc daniels
isnt everyone tired of jacobs running wide on 1st down in the fourth  
gtt350 : 1/15/2011 9:24 am : link
qtr for no gain, then he throws on 2nd and long into a defense waiting for it
third down and we throw a pass one yard short of 1st down then punt.
screw that i'm sick of it
Gillbride's  
simatt : 1/15/2011 9:26 am : link
last four years- SB win, 12 wins, 8 wins and 10 wins. Yep, he is a real loser.
what time do the giants kickoff today?  
gtt350 : 1/15/2011 9:27 am : link
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The only people who ever say "stats are for losers"  
Kyle : 1/15/2011 9:30 am : link
are people who are annoyed that the stats are contrary to their own opinion.
What time does McDaniels show up at the stadium today?  
okiegiant : 1/15/2011 9:32 am : link
Saying Gilbride is the only reason the Giants are sitting home is just silly.
Josh McDaniels would be very good  
Life Long Giants Fan : 1/15/2011 9:39 am : link
but KG is very good too.

We just need to cut down on INTs and improve the Oline so we can pound the rock better when we have a lead in the 4th quarter.
it's amazing how much stuff you guys assume people are saying  
gtt350 : 1/15/2011 9:45 am : link
you make it up as you go along, bbi never ceases to amaze me
What people forget  
JohnF : 1/15/2011 9:46 am : link
you can be the best OC ever, but if your line can't block or your WR's can't run proper routes, then you're going to have problems. What we need are players who can stay healthy and do their assignments.

Do I like everything KG does? No, but when he has the horses, he gets results. Josh has had great success when 1) he had superior personnel in NE, and 2) when he was facing the Little Sisters of the Poor Defenses in the AFC West. I doubt he would be any better in the NFC East than KG. Also, why would you want to revamp the offense when it's unlikely we'll do any better? Do you think it helps guys like Jason Campbell when they get a new OC every year? I don't.
gtt, what?  
okiegiant : 1/15/2011 9:48 am : link
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i never said anything about mc daniels  
gtt350 : 1/15/2011 9:51 am : link
and i never said anything about gilbride being the only reason we are not playing today.
all i said was gilbride , with the game on the line is very predictable and not creative
yet read all the rebuttals to comments i never made
isn't mcdaniels  
TrueBlue56 : 1/15/2011 9:54 am : link
the same guy who traded away Cutler and Marshall all because he couldn't get along with them and then he traded away Hillis.

Yeah some coach and some talent evaluator.
I I think people who say Gilbride is predictable...  
okiegiant : 1/15/2011 9:58 am : link
cherry pick certain situations and try to make them the norm instead of the isolated events they are. For instance the shotgun draw never works, unless it does, and running Jacobs wide always results in a loss, unless he breaks a big run.

This offense is very simular(heck it might be exactly the same I don't pretend to have all the answers)as it was in '07, '08 and '09. When this offense is clicking it's close to unstoppable. I think the injuries and decision making by key players are more to blame than Gilbride, but hey, thats just my opinion.
kyle  
PeterS : 1/15/2011 10:06 am : link
I heard Jerry Jones say that in his 60 Minutes interview. I was impressed because I expected him to make excuses.
If Quinn  
Doomster : 1/15/2011 10:31 am : link
is still here, nobody is going anywhere....
maybe we can hire  
mdc1 : 1/15/2011 10:42 am : link
McDaniels to tape Eagles practices, since we haven't beaten them in ages..
McDaniels  
HomerJones45 : 1/15/2011 10:49 am : link
another OC that Tom Brady made look good. It is going to take several years to fix the mess he left in Denver
HJ45  
Big Blue '56 : 1/15/2011 11:08 am : link
Not so sure-John Fox is there now
MCD1  
jayg5 : 1/15/2011 11:34 am : link
I am with you, let him tape eagles practices, then let him come here and convince ownership that we can't win with Eli and we should trade for Tebow.

Awesome Idea
McDaniels  
Sammo284 : 1/15/2011 11:38 am : link
is a decent offensive coach. I'm not sure he's an offensive genius though.

I mean he did have Randy Moss and Tom Brady back during that 2007 season. Although you have to give coaching some credit for maximizing what that offense did.

He was outcoached by Spags though in the Super Bowl.

I think he' a guy who is probably going to have to settle for being an OC from now on. His Broncos tenure ended pretty horribly and he made some awful moves.
.....  
JBGiants : 1/15/2011 11:44 am : link
I don't get why a troll like Josh in the City doesn't get banned. It isn't really a banning for stupidity, so much as banning of "cluttering up the board with high volumes of stupidity". Josh is so dumb that I doubt he would even realize he is banned, and just go back to playing with his Barbies and his Gilbride voodoo doll.
In the famous words of Pope Gidiefor the First  
Larry in Pencilvania : 1/15/2011 11:48 am : link
"You don't need to post every stupid thought that enters your brain."
no response  
simatt : 1/15/2011 12:01 pm : link
from the OP to all the counterpoints made.
If the offense was as  
kickerpa16 : 1/15/2011 12:56 pm : link
"predictable" as some people make it out to be, we would be dead last in the league, unless we had singularly spectacular players at each offensive position.

Here's an idea; if our offense is predictable, hire yourself out as a mercenary to any team that plays the Giants; you'd be making loads of money for not much work.
KG  
Life Long Giants Fan : 1/15/2011 1:01 pm : link
If KG calls the play with the highest chance of working and it doesn't work, then people complain he is predictable.

If KG calls a play designed to catch the other team off guard and it doesn't work, then people complain about the stupid plays he calls.





LLGF  
SHO'NUFF : 1/15/2011 1:27 pm : link
same thing can be said for every OC...all the KG supporters will use it as their foundation to absolve KG of any responsibility...

yet, if OCs can't do any wrong...why do they get fired?

I don't know the answer, but it certainly is puzzling that KG is such a polarizing figure on BBI.
JFC...  
Homersimpson : 1/15/2011 2:38 pm : link
the whole "run on 1st, pass on 2nd" meme has been debunked numerous times by numerous posters on BBI...but carry on. I'm sure somehow, you'll find a way to continue to drive this ridiculous "argument" into the ground.
SHO'NUFF  
Life Long Giants Fan : 1/15/2011 3:16 pm : link
We have had one of top rated offenses in many categories over the past 4 years.

That is not a reason to fire anybody, install a new program and start over.
Peter  
Kyle : 1/15/2011 5:00 pm : link
Hah really? Jerry Jones said that?

Kudos to Jerry Jones then for realizing the truth. No one ever gets angry at statistics themselves unless they have a belief or opinion that the statistics contradict.
I'll give..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/15/2011 5:03 pm : link
Josh this - he's tenacious.

He'll take a point and run it into the ground, even if it is a suck-ass point.

So, he's aggressive, but not so self-aware.

That's just fucking great for the rest of us.
Who's asking??  
Peter in Atlanta : 1/15/2011 9:27 pm : link
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FMIC  
Josh in the City : 1/15/2011 9:50 pm : link
LOL, thanks. Unfortunately, I haven't felt so adamantly against a Giants coach since the end of the Dan Reeves era. I truly can't stand Gilbride anymore. I know the stats say one thing but I just think with the talent we have, we should be a lot better than we are. Too many head scratchers, too much confusion, lack of a temp and simply poor in game adjustments for me. It's time for a change.
he has my vote  
Spock : 1/15/2011 10:27 pm : link
no more Gilbride
Man, Josh...  
Midn_Chae : 1/16/2011 12:02 am : link
You're going to be so disappointed next season (if we do have one) when Gilbride is still our OC and making all the "predictable" plays without have any "guts" to call those aggressive calls. How are you going to deal with that? I suggest a lot of beers for each game.

A lot of beers for each game  
Sneakers O'toole : 1/16/2011 12:09 am : link
That's just good advise for anyone :)
and yes  
Sneakers O'toole : 1/16/2011 12:09 am : link
I know I spelled advice wrong
gtt  
BigBlueBuff : 1/16/2011 3:02 am : link
did some serious yeoman's work on this thread. Good job!
Is this "Josh in the City" guy for real?  
BUgiantfan : 1/16/2011 4:07 am : link
Have we figured out if he is a dupe handle yet?

These can't possibly be genuine posts!
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