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Rick Gosselin's Final Mock Draft

Rick in Dallas : 4/28/2011 6:58 am

1)Carolina:Cam Newton
2)Denver:Von Miller
3)Buffalo:Marcell Darius
4)Cincinnati:AJ Green
5)Arizona:Patrick Peterson
6)Cleveland:Julio Jones
7)San Francisco:Blaine Gabbert
8)Tennessee:Jake Locker
9)Dallas:Tyron Smith
10)Washington:Christian Ponder
11)Houston:Alson Smith
12)Minnesota:Andy Dalton
13)Detroit)Nick Fairley
14)St.Louis:Mark Ingram
15)Miami:Mike Pouncey
16)Jacksonville:Ryan Kerrigan
17)New England:Cam Jordan
18)San Diego:Cory Liuget
19)Giants:Nate Solder
20)Tampa Bay:Robert Quinn
21)Kansas City:Gabe Carimi
22)Indy:Anthony Castonzo
23)Eagles:Jimmy Smith
24)New Orlaeans:Adrian Clayborn
25)Seattle:Prince Amikamara
26)Baltimore:JJ Watt
27)Atlanta:Phil Taylor
28)New England:Danny Watkins
29)Chicago:Marvin Austin
30)Jets:Derrick Sherrod
31)Pittsburgh:Cam Heyward
32)Packers:Aaron Williams

Comments on Giants number 1 pick:Like the cowboys,the Giants need to get younger on the offensive line.Solder is the best blind side protector in this draft and he's going to get better.He's only played the position for three years.

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wow Fairley at 13!

JerseyJoe : 4/28/2011 7:02 am : link

at that point I trade up

Not realistic.

AcidTest : 4/28/2011 7:06 am : link

Fairley at #13? Ponder to Washington at #10? Amakamara (sp?) to Seattle at #25? He's done good work in the past, but this seems way off.

The Giants pass on Anthony Castonzo ???

JohnB : 4/28/2011 7:08 am : link

I can't see that happening. He is very smart, from BC and has all the tools. He just seems like a Giant player.

John, Giants will probably know him

JerseyJoe : 4/28/2011 7:10 am : link

better than most with their strong BC ties. If they like Solders upside in pass pro at the ultra critical LT spot I could see this.

Tennessee needs a QB baaaaaad

JerseyJoe : 4/28/2011 7:14 am : link

teams ALWAYS gamble on the upside QB in the first rd since it is by far the biggest impact position. This could make sense

dont worry

armstead98 : 4/28/2011 7:18 am : link

The solder bandwagon is still less full than the sinorice moss short bus. Plenty of room to jump aboard.

Ponder's stock apparently rising

JerseyJoe : 4/28/2011 7:18 am : link

see linkage.

Gosselin has more inside info than most.
Ponder rising - ( New Window )

Gosselin's final mock...

Chris in Philly : 4/28/2011 7:21 am : link

is not realistic? He and Nawrocki come closest to nailing it every year.

Dalton at 12

JerseyJoe : 4/28/2011 7:24 am : link

seems like the craziest one to me. But the Vikes are one of the more complete teams without a QB in the NFL. If they like this guys upside teams will always gamble on a QB in the first if it's a need.

I'd love for the draft to go that way...

Milton : 4/28/2011 7:24 am : link

But I find it hard to believe that only one OT will be off the board by the time the Giants get to pick.

Prince falling to

Kevin in Annapolis : 4/28/2011 7:24 am : link

25 is the biggest shock to me.

I know Parcells

JerseyJoe : 4/28/2011 7:26 am : link

was talking about his short arms as a big negative. Don't know if it drops him that far but Goss has connections.

5 Qbs in top 15!

JerseyJoe : 4/28/2011 7:28 am : link

would be awesome if true

Prince

dess46 : 4/28/2011 7:33 am : link

I can't see us passing on Prince. Way too much value there.

...and not one of those QB's is a franchise type QB

Rick in Dallas : 4/28/2011 7:37 am : link

Gosselin states teams with QB needs in this draft will have no problem taking a QB 15 picks too early instead of 1 pick too late...could be a fun evening watching this unfold if Gosselin is spot on...

Our pick

ThrowItDeep17 : 4/28/2011 7:40 am : link

If the first round shakes out like this I would be ecstatic, aside from the fact that the Giants take Solder... not a fan of him. If Prince and Castonzo are both on the board we don't pass on both of them. Hell, Robert Quinn is still on the board at #19 and it would not surprise me if they went DE with a ton of value.

and you know they'll be a trade or two mixed in

JerseyJoe : 4/28/2011 7:43 am : link

should be some serious drama!!!

two guys I hope are gone by our pick: Ingram and Liuget....do not want these guys at all with Liuget being the bigger bust potential . I think Ingram will be good but there are greater needs at more critical positions and value at RB later where Reese has cleaned up. of course if we draft em we'll root like heck for 'em.

I doubt the Giants would pass on Prince

Big Blue '56 : 4/28/2011 7:44 am : link

Da'Quan Bowers

dpassen1 : 4/28/2011 7:45 am : link

falls out of the first round. Wow.

bb56

JerseyJoe : 4/28/2011 7:47 am : link

do you watch college football? how much have you watched Prince? you are not qualified to speak on draft matters. Just sayin' ;)

This wouldn't surprise me at all...

Matt G : 4/28/2011 8:08 am : link

I think teams like WAS, TEN, MIN may slide back a bit (if possible), but I don't see QBs like Ponder, Dalton and Locker sliding to RD2...

wow

Carl in CT : 4/28/2011 8:10 am : link

Give me quinn, watts, prince or bowers! Nate would be a throw your remote with those 4 available! Need 4 rushers! Tuck, JPP, osi and the new guy here! Kiwi will be gone!

Not very realistic at all.

johnnyb : 4/28/2011 8:21 am : link

Ponder at #10? Rams taking a RB? Just a few.

Why would the Chargers

DonnieD89 : 4/28/2011 8:33 am : link

select Liuget? Isn't he a pure 3-tech. DT? San Diego plays a 3-4 defence. Are they projecing him to play the 5-tech.?

Every year

Chris in Philly : 4/28/2011 8:40 am : link

there are 3 or 4 head scratchers. There's no reason to believe this year will be any different. Especially with so much uncertainty in the league.

...

Toth029 : 4/28/2011 8:41 am : link

Liuget isn't the type to play in a 3-4. Odd choice.

Rams taking a RB when Spags loves Jackson, and they have a few backups who aren't bad, either. They can and WILL take a RB I'm sure, but not early.

I would be livid if they passed on Castanzo, Smith, and Prince for Solder.

Paul in Brooklyn : 4/28/2011 8:46 am : link

wouldn't mind Solder at all, but I think it would be incredibly hard to pass up on Amukamara if he fell to us. I don't see him getting near our pick though.

Thanks Rick

NNJ Tom : 4/28/2011 8:46 am : link

I could live with that.

Jump on Robert Quinn at 19.

Boy Cord : 4/28/2011 8:49 am : link

This mock is nuts, but Gosselin is the men. Hope Skins go for Ponder at 10.

Paul in Brooklyn : 4/28/2011 8:50 am : link

think this will probably be Gosselin's most inaccurate mock in years. I think the lockout is isolating all of his agent and player sources from information on who the draft decision-makers are leaning towards.

I've also noticed the usual beat reporters being more indecisive than ever, which is probably due to the same reason.

Toth

Milton : 4/28/2011 8:52 am : link

Why would you be livid? I would think you would be pleased knowing that they didn't select Solder as a consolation prize because none of the players you liked were available, but instead chose him because they felt he was better than them.

It reminds me of the 1999 draft. I wanted either Aaron Gibson or LJ Shelton. And both of them were still available when the Giants selected Luke Petitgout, so I didn't feel so bad because I knew they prefered him to Gibson or Shelton. And history has proven they were right about that one.

A worse situation is like what happened in 2007 when the Giants selected Aaron Ross because the two CB's they coveted most were already gone.

The Rams could easily take a RB...

Matt G : 4/28/2011 8:56 am : link

If they feel Ingram is worth the value at #14... Steven Jackson has a ton of wear and could desperately use a true complimentary RB...

Holy...

mattyb233 : 4/28/2011 8:58 am : link

First, for anyone that's saying "not realistic," Gosselin is consistently among the best at predicting the draft...

Second, I don't see how we pass on Quinn, Amukamara, and Carimi if they're on the board.

Donnie

Matt G : 4/28/2011 8:58 am : link

Liuget fits at both 3- and 5-technique...

The Quinn thing is interesting

wigs in nyc : 4/28/2011 8:58 am : link

Boylhart hates him.

mattyb

Matt G : 4/28/2011 9:03 am : link

Agree 100% on teh "not realistic" comments... Sorta reminds me of how every year as early as Jan/Feb a handful of BBI draft experts declare "no chance in hell <insert player name> lasts to pick #XX"... And come late April the player falls right past the selection...

we pass on Prince AND Castonzo

Mike in NY : 4/28/2011 9:18 am : link

to take a huge bust risk in Nate Solder? I know some are high on Solder, but if he cannot play LT I am not sure he has a spot in the NFL. He is not stout enough as a run blocker to play RT and is too long with terrible knee bend so would get his arse handed to him at OG

If Fairley can stay motivated in the NFL...

Matt G : 4/28/2011 9:20 am : link

Lining him up next to Ndamukong Suh would a nightmare for teams in the NFC Central... You would have to think CHI would be on the phone "tout de suite" about trading up for Mike Pouncey...

I'll be surprised if NYG picks an OT

JonC : 4/28/2011 9:24 am : link

especially if it's not Castonzo.

Solder would be great.

Jim in Forest Hills : 4/28/2011 9:36 am : link

Would be thrilled.

don't like Solder at all

Greg from LI : 4/28/2011 9:42 am : link

if Fairley actually fell that far, I'd hope the Giants would consider moving up to get him. Dude's a wrecking ball in the middle.

Ponder going that early wouldn't be surprising

bois : 4/28/2011 9:43 am : link

I haven't heard a bad thing about him, everyone seems to love the kid.

I agree that the draft will be crazy,

DonnieD89 : 4/28/2011 10:05 am : link

and with that said, even Gosselin will not be able to efficiently predict this draft. There are too many variables, with not prior FA moves, and the rumors have it that there is going to be a slew of trades in the 1st round. I take Gosselin's 2011 final mock draft with a grain of salt like other mock drafts this year.

I thought I saw a scroll blurb that WAS

Jim in Forest Hills : 4/28/2011 10:06 am : link

was trying to move down to acquire more picks.

Ralph...

Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/28/2011 10:07 am : link

also said he heard one scout say don't be surprised if the Giants take Solder over the BC tackle.

I could see the Giants taking Solder in the scenario presented, but

Bob in Newburgh : 4/28/2011 10:14 am : link

only if they feel he could develop into a Pro Bowl LT.

If they believe his ceiling is lower than that, I suspect they would take one of the more reliable run blockers, if they went o-line.

In the scenario presented, with Watts and Prince available, I do not think they would go o-line.

I think Ponder is gonna be great...

Matt G : 4/28/2011 10:18 am : link

The only drawback on him has been the injuries... And by all reports (Senior Bowl, Combine, Pro Day), he's looked excellent since having his elbow cleaned out at the end of the season... Plus, the kid has an awful lot to like in terms of intangibles...

I think Solder is the one with the highest ceiling,

Jim in Forest Hills : 4/28/2011 10:20 am : link

aside from perhaps Tyron. He hasn't filled out his frame yet so he will have initial power issues, but this kid lead all OTs in the 20 yard shuttle and was quicker than many TEs! All at 6'8". He's got the arm length, work ethic and most importantly, the feet to excel at OLT.

Bob exactly

JerseyJoe : 4/28/2011 10:21 am : link

it seems most all the top tackles project well as pro's however not so much at LT. If they feel Solder has much more upside at LT, THE MOST PREMIUM POSITION ON THE LINE, then I am all for it. Solder sounds like he can be better than Joe Staley in SF when he reaches full potential. If the Giants agree with that he is a very good pick at 19.

Not a big fan of trading up in this draft...

Matt G : 4/28/2011 10:22 am : link

But if Reese/Ross had a VERY strong conviction about Nick Fairley, I can't say that I would be too upset about it...

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