Steve Smith: Eagles wanted me MUCH more than NYG

fuck him. fuck the eagles.

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dbag

Blow me.

much = $2.0 million.

as far as your new beginning goes, break a leg steve smith.

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Which is totally his right. Armstead made the same mistake.

and if Smith plays well this year, it is a HUGE black eye for the organization and Reese in particular.

Really hope KP tears his fucking head off this year.

I still say he's damaged goods and will not contribute all that much. I'm really glad that he got the guaranteed 2 million..Good for him and I wish him well

And I have little to no doubt he will be contributing in Philly.

...I guess it's always about the money.

I guess what he posted has just been validated by some of you folks.

I hope the BBI trophy falls off your mantle and breaks your other Goddamned knee.

Allighty Ollar?

I get it!

Interesting. Unfucking believable.

cries forever

Own smith, osi and shockey!

I'm in total shock was hands down my favorite player on the team.

Vick uses possession receivers how often? Ask guys like Celek how much fun they had last year.

Happy for him that he got himself $2 mm guaranteed, but I just dont see him getting a chance to showcase himself for a big payday next offseason. Not with DJax, McCoy, Maclin, Avant, Celek, R Brown, and a QB that loves to run, all in the mix.

Good one.

And not talking about winning, pride, or some other rosy BS.

Hope he recovers from microfracture as well as sehorn did.

God I hope Phillips catches him on a crossing pattern and they just go ahead and bury him where he falls.

its ALWAYS about the money.

like a fucking high school break up....I still have love for the bitch, but he (she) is now fucking the biggest douche bag in school!!!

But this is a serious kick in the fucking balls. For a guy who was posting pics of the empty Eagles trophy case not very long ago and saying that he wanted to stay a Giant so badly.. his actions sure spoke louder than words and he's just another guy who has proven that it's never about anything but the money.

I can't believe I'm saying this about a guy who was one of my favorite Giants... but fuck you, Steve.

like a fucking high school break up....I still have love for the bitch, but he (she) is now fucking the biggest douche bag in school!!!

the Eagles wanted me $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$MUCH$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ more than the NYG. It's about the money, and the Giants weren't giving 2 mil guaranteed.

.... they get the Giants offensive playbook, too.

Fuck!

You wanted the Eagles.

I won't root for Smith even if he goes to another team next season.

Steve Smith is dead to me.

This stinks to high heaven of a money grab which makes me wonder whether that knee is really ready or if Smith will ever be the same.

Giants must have gotten negative medical reports.

The good news is if the Giants keep this up they should be able to get a couple of good comp picks for next draft.

Will be burning my Smith jersey tonight as I cry in the fetal position.

with that one Greg, I hope we have better results than the last time the Eagles ran a crossing pattern near KP.

If you just rehabbed from an injury like this and you knew your future as a baller was in doubt, you're going to take the MOST guaranteed money you can...if you you don't you're a DUMBASS.

Even with their shopping spree, the Eagles were several more million UNDER the cap than the Giants...so they simply ACED the Giants with the extra room.

+2 to them if it works (+1 for getting him, +1 for taking him off the Giants)

for the comp pic. Wahoo!

once and for all.

they wanted you so much more that because they had the room to spend, they ONLY gave you one guaranteed year of service as a fuck you to us.

We were strapped and couldn't afford the guarantee. Go fuck yourself with a 50 ft. rusty ass pole.

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but we made a business decision based on our best medical reports.

It is what it is. Thanks for the memories. I hope KP ***** you up on a crossing pattern.

a 1yr contract factors much into the comp pick computation. I think it's both production and size of deal vs production and size of deal from players you sign.

times pie.

^^^

ASSHOLE! plain and simple. To go to the Eagles of all teams! He is no longer welcomed in NY!

Tyree, Toomer, Boss, Plax and Smith all gone.

I guess pretty soon I'm going to start to feel like I'm rooting for laundry.

have offered bargain basement dollars. Players restructured for this.

Fuck you from Virginia.

than steve smith

Heart breaking just heart breaking

Something in the medicals must have scared off NYG, that and/or a convenient excuse to retain dollars for our massive UFA class next Winter.

You went to the Dark Side son...

Mentions Gilbride.

Why is everybody pissed with SS. He had every right to take the deal. It's not like the Giants matched and he walked, or took care of him after his record breaking season. It's a business both ways.

Tell me how to defriend him on facebook?

Because I don't want to read his BS anymore, clearly it's all about the money. Not happy to see him gone but I'd rather Reese not overpay for him.

On the flip side, more $$$ to give to Super Mario next winter.

this really sucks to see him go over there.

if the Giants made you a cheapo offer and another team made you a good offer, what would you do?

Good luck, SS...except when you play any game for the Eagles.

I think it was a confluence of things.

Knee injuries are pretty detrimental to any athlete, and to WRs they tend to level a good impact (and never positively).

I do think the Giants are being careful with their money and cap situation. They're going to want to lock up guys like Thomas and Manningham I would think and maybe look at a few other FAs as well.

and money do people not understand??

and Nicks is a terrific 1-2 combo.

I'm really excited to see what Cruz can do.

We can use that money for BBI instead. I also will never buy another Giants Jersey in my Life with these overpriced asshole players names again 7

I have a legit Smith Authentic. Is there a place you can purchase name plates?

I'm gonna change the number to 21 and was hoping I could get a Phillips name plate.

Anyone have a link???

on the bottom left of the page there should be a link that says, "Unlike".

but 2 mil is nothing.

Signing with the Eagles is a fuck you to the team, not just following money. If he's mad, he's mad. We know how the Giants do business, and I know they were fair with him.

understand it full well.

I also understand he just went to my most hated fucking team in the league.

business or not, he can go fuck himself from here on out. he's a cocksmoking eagle now

I hope he is right but I am becoming a doubter.

but i won't knock him for taking the best offer wherever it is. These guys aren't fans, they're employees

But that said, ill add to the chorus of FUCK YOU STEVE

- Smith detractor before it was fashionable

We agree, there's something about this team in recent seasons that this indicates to me they were ready to shake things up in terms of personnel. Lock up the indentified healthy core, continue to build via the draft, and go for UFA when it presents itself.

Ash, good to see you, dude.

you are either with us, or against us. You sir are now a fucking E-Gal and are against us! Take your fucking money and choke on it!!

to leave yourself without a TE, let's face it Pascoe is a street FA, Ballard a UDFA and Beckum a specialist...is inexcusable.

Add to that for all the young talent at WR there is no one who has at this time what Smith brings to the game, consistent, reliable, ability to get open, who knows where the first down marker is...something I think Eli needs in a receiver as well...

Not the moves of a contender, nor what I expect of Reese.

fuck you jerry reese. And iv allways defended him but fuck him!!. Andrews all this doe overpay Canty Boley and Rolle and we can't sign one of our own clutches players in recent history to a 2 year 2 million dollar deal. He was such a great route runner. Giants records and we let him slip to Philly. I'm so sick!

He's a Philadelphia F*cking Eagle. I don't care. "I knew it was you Steve. You broke my heart. YOU BROKE MY HEART!"

I'm not pissed he went to another team. But to the Eagles?? For what they signed him for??

Basically giving the Giants the finger.

not a good sign for him

has every right to take the deal.

And every Giants fan has a right to hate him for doing it.

I understand the guy needs money and business decisions do come into play, but he just tossed out his legacy for me. I won't remember him for the big year he had a year or so ago or the contributions towards the SB run (where he was not a main guy though).

To me, he'll be known as a traitor. And if he wins a SB ring with the Eagles, if I was the Giants, I'd never let him back for any of the former Giants things or the SB remembrance.

Steve smith.

Hammer is spot on about that.

Whatever. There's a reason we play the games.

I think this Giants team is going to be better than a lot of people think. I also didn't expect much from Smith going forward this season. This doesn't really change things for me.

more this year than i ever have. He's not a fan. Hes a clear thinker who assigns a value to a player and won't budge on it just to appease fans who are pissed that one of their jerseys is not outdated

Played hardball with Bradshaw, got his guy at the price he wanted. Let Boss and smith walk for deals he wasn't willing to apparently match. And i agree with him on both fronts

Time will prove that this offseason was a very good one for him. But i expect it to get lost in the hysteria right now

I agree but i'm not surprised..going to the eagles yes, but not surprised that he left..

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Gman shows up serving in his role as Chief Apologist for the player.

This team got old in a few places and there's been some stagnation lately as we've all noticed with not getting back to the playoffs.

but at least Armstead got rich.

Steve sold himself to a hated rival for peanuts, probably because he was insulted.

Fuck it. The tradeoff is we probably get to keep Manningham and Thomas.

I have the opposite feeling..I think it's been too much turnover of personnel in the last few years..

Eric said this and i agree, this is a transition year..

giants legacy butchered worse than tiki

hope you've been well.

I'm pretty excited about our team. The Prince injury was pretty disappointing, since I thought he'd be a big part of our D this season. That said, I feel pretty good about our squad and I'm excited to see Cruz get some snaps this year and our other young WR's get some opportunities.

NotoriousOHM Ohm Youngmisuk
by SteveSmithWR
Smith: "I'm pretty sure" Giants were able to match offer from Eagles.

I know he is older, but he did't play until end of October right? And, he did not play well.

the happiest man on the team right now

we're gonna be fine on O without him

gman, I was prepared for him to leave


but... The fucking eagles?????????? gahhhh


fuck him

how do i "unlike" Steve Smith's page?

I'm guessing we won't see any quotes from Tom Coughlin about how he 'can't wish him well'.

bottom left of his facebook page should be an "unlike" link.

I'm no apologist..i dopn;t link my personal feelings to players..This is about getting paid and he chose to get paid..

if it was about loyalty or other things, wouldn't the Giants offered him a longer contract or more money? They mad a business decison. Smith made one too..

I think that's a completely reasonable take.

That said, I still like this team a lot when they're on the ropes.

Look in the bottom left, you will see a bottom that says 'unlike'.

thanks guys.

It may be better longer term, but right now we're toaling too many players in a short period trying to acclimated to a new system..And with all the injuries this team is compounding..

In business and life there is no bigger mistake than doing something that you do not believe in for the sake of other people doing something. That has been the Reese mantra from day one and I agree with it 100%.

And call me cynical but he wanted no part of battle with nicks or manningham cause he wouldn't win for the 1 or 2 postion. And it appears his pride wasn't going to let him accept 3rd wr non guaranteed money from the giants while believing he was a "true #1".

I also know this is not something that gets the team down, if anything it's a an even bigger motivation because they can play the "oh were not good enough card" which always works with NFL meatheads

we just need it to be 415 September 11th In fed ex field with Rex grossmen lined up under center.

can you imagine the damage he will do over the middle as Jackson and Maclin take the backside of defense deep? I am ill just thinking about it.

...great.

The best thing to do is forget about this guy and root for the receivers we have...

...and relish the moment when we beat the fuck out of the Eagles.

I never even bother resigning his slow ass in Madden. I always ended up re-upping Manningham over him. In all seriousness someone will fill his role and maybe he comes back after his 1yr deal is up.

acclimation to the system and all that is sound, yet that's happening with basically every team in the NFL.

As for the injuries, I don't worry about them unless they're big long-term blows. While Prince will be behind the curve when he gets back, I wouldn't be surprised if he gives our pass D a nice, big lift in the 2nd half/last quarter of the season.

I don't know whats more suprising, That we bought all of his bullshit, or that he was actually this full of shit..Vick, Jackson, and Smith can all go to hell.

Bring on week 3...If Vick goes down they are screwed...And then ALL that money is wasted...

I will give up my entire September salary for us kicking the Eagles ass on 9/25, capped by Mario flapping his wings after another TD. Must beat Eagles. There is no alternative.

at all save for prince.

Just the regular camp stuff

Meltzer.

No, not even close.

He was a good WR who had stats here the last couple years that he probably never would have seen on most other "good" teams, in part because he knew the offense much better than his physically more talented teammates.

It's time for another gig. Maybe he needs the money.

this was a no brainer for the eagles

they had money to blow and even if he doesn't see the field at all, it's still a gigantic 'HAHA fuck you guys' to the giants.

even he does somehow make it back and is effective? mothercuntfuck

& this reinforces my belief that I root for the jersey, not the player.

*if he does

BBI Trophy?

I'm talking about guys who made need to contribute early like a Beatty, Barden and others..They need Ross to be healthy because of Prince.

The depth of this team has always worried me..I was always a get some vets to back up the starters guy..Now we're talking about Beckum being a contributer..

earn him "legend" status, the same scott brosious is a "legend". just my view and see your point on him not being a true legend like carson, lt, simms etc etc

and the Giants couldn't match that? Doesn't add up.

Yes

hixon by all accounts is fully healthy, just taking precautionary days off. Ross is healthy. And our young CB depth guys appear to be having good camps.

only 2 million guranteed. Ridiculous.

to a guy you dont even know can play a whole season.

2 mill bonus. Where is the cap space? Aren't the Giants at like at 600,000?

Giants were 3.5 million under the cap.

no problem with this. Football is a short career. The Giants obviously think the injury is worse than the Eagles do. Smith took the better offer.

we trust our drafting, that is what it is for better or worse.

Guy can catch and run, we already know that, only question is blocking and he sounds like he's doing everything he can to become a good blocker.

MikeGarafolo Mike Garafolo
Smith said he believes the Giants couldn't match the Eagles offer. #nyg

He is not overpaying for his own free agents. The Eagles are taking the injured veteran. If Smith's knee was so solid they would have given him a two year deal. Smith may not get another contract after this if he can't come back.

Reese has so much to allocate for each position and quite frankly Manningham has more upside than Smith. Manningham is a playmaker who can take it to the house while Smith is a move the chains receiver who runs great routes. In the long run Nicks and Manningham is scarrier duo than Nicks and Smith. You keep bringing in young talent to fill in that 3rd and 4th spot and keeping that cap number down.

Ernie Accorsi used to overpay his own free agents like Sehorn and Tiki and he put the Giants in cap hell. Jerry says no more. Boss and Smith aren't worth it and Bradshaw isn't worth megabucks either

Time to clean up

calling out a guy and disagreeing with him, then doing exactly what he disagreed with.

He's a phony. Fuck him.

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I disagree with this comment: Tom Jones: Do you all honestly think that your pleas to keep him here in NY are going to be good for anything? If that were the case we wouldn't have lost Boss, and Steve wouldn't be sitting here saying things like this. The players don't play for the game anymore, they play for the paycheck. Where they get it from, they don't care. Move on Steve...move on.

Thanks for posting that quote. That guy called it perfectly.

Guys that actually want to be here.

I have no words for this . . .

Giants thought that he would not be available until the 9th or 10th week and would still have to work himself into condition.

How much cap room did Philly have????!!!!

. I forgot about that post. I thought Smith was genuine when he pretended that he was a NY Giant forever, and that he only wanted to stay in NY. He was a fake.

The responses by so many here are pretty disgusting. The Giants low-balled him. He wanted to be a Giant and they low-balled him to the point where the Eagles came in a got him for a fair price. This one is on the Giants, not on Steve Smith. How can anyone blame him?

why the hell the did the Eagles take him?

It's very obvious that Banner and Roseman have bigger balls than Reese.

I think the Giants might've f***ked up on this one.

you are 100% correct. The Giants right now are realizing that the core of the 2007 championship team, for the most part, has taken this team as far as it could have gone and it was time for change. They had a damn good run for a while, up through the 2008 team, which for a short time seemed like it could have even been a better team than the 1986 Giants until the roof caved in.

But let's not all forget what has gone on since. An 8-8 collapse in 2009, and last year, yes 10-6, however, plenty of cracks where showing. You add in the age on the OL and young veterans coming off injury concerns (Boss concussions, Smith knee, even Bradshaw's ankles/feet) and you see a game plan by Reese and the Giants ownership not to overpay to think that they can just recapture 2007 again.

While it sucks ass that Smith is going to Philly, it's a business. Steve Smith owes nothing to the fans or the Giants, he's out to make the most money he can. It is the way it works. But for the Giants, there are now so many moving parts throughout the offense. This team is looking like one that is going to take a few steps back to try to build up a new core and make another run. If they can gel by late in the season, there is no reason why it won't be this year. But if not, I wouldn't be stunned to see this team go 8-8 again, if not worse.

on Smiths' wall.

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As much as the Giants front office is to blame for letting Steve Smith go, I put a ton of blame on Eli Manning. Brandon Jacobs took a pay cut to bring back Ahmad Bradshaw. If Eli Manning cared THAT much about Steve Smith, then he would have done the right thing and take care of his most reliable WR.

Say what you want. This guy had a 100 catch season. That's the only time a Giants WR has done that in my lifetime and I'm not young. That shit isn't just random.

I know we're all polyannas here but keep this in mind. Hixon is currently our 3rd WR. Hixon! Let's hope Cruz is the real deal.

I am fine with it being a business, but when he calls a fan out on facebook and then does EXACTLY what the fan said, he's a fucking phony. He has acted like a fucking 10 year old on facebook for a couple years now and I hope he gets absolutely torn to shreds for being a complete phony. No one made him say the stuff he did on facebook, no camera was on him, no microphone in front of his face.

He's the definition of a phony.

Jernigan as well

An 8-8 season with Eli & Tuck in their primes makes me nauseous.

The Giants don't have a habit of lowballing their own guys.

He was looking to get paid and struck out. The Eagles obliged him with a "show me" flyer.

low balling could well be correct. I think it's more of an issue that the Giants looked at Smith with his knee problems and the fact that Manningham is going to be needing a new deal, and the decision was to not spend on Smith and save for Manningham. Smith was in line for a new deal for a long time and he got hosed by the CBA problems because the Giants were able to wait it out and then he hurt his knee. It's just an unfortunate situation for the Giants and Smith because it wasn't going to work out. Nicks is a keeper, he's getting his money. It was always Smith vs. Manningham for the next bigger money deal. It was a sound business decision by the Giants. Sucks, but sound. And let's see how much he contributes in Philly before we go nuts. The Eagles could well be banking on the fact that they expect to be a high seed in the playoffs and want Smith there for the stretch run and the playoffs so they'll wait him out. The Giants don't have that luxury.

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2 million.

Hopefully now the offensive coaches can meet up and decide schematically how they want to adjust.

I'd rather have this now before the season with ample time to add and install new shit then later on. Let's see what Hixon, JJ, Cruz and Darius R. can do. Let's see who can step up from them.

if it's a 1 year deal, how exactly would you be saving money for manningham who isn't a free agent until next off-season?

but I don't blame Reese either.

most certainly is not out of the question. I think this teams floor is 7-9, ceiling is 11-5. Anywhere in between would not shock me, but the botom line is this team did absolutely nothing to get better from last year

Or they offered him a two-year deal as they did with Kiwanuka, and Smith probably decided to take a flyer for $2m just for rehabbing, then test Free Agency and make real money.

the only reason I can see is that the Giants don't think Smith is ever going to be the same, otherwise they would have stuck with him.

I agree with you. This was likely as much about Manningham as it was about Smith.

Possible, but I doubt the Giants offerd Smith a 2 year deal when the Giants doctors feel Smith will be out for the "long haul" as TC said yesterday.

I don't pay attention to that Facebook nonsense. I've met enough players, both former and current, to know that they generally play up to the fans as much as they can, and when they change cities, they change to suit the fans. Like most guys, Smith has a PR team of his own, setting up his appearances, endorsements, etc. Social Media is one of them, and now he's going to play up to the Philly group. I know for a fact that most PR guys sweat out twitter/facebook, etc. because giving these guys unfiltered access to fans is a nightmare for them to help play to an image they are trying to create or maintain. If he's a phony, so be it.

a luxury with question marks that we simply couldn't afford to gamble on--especially when we're stacked at WR.

a luxury with question marks that we simply couldn't afford to gamble on--especially when we're stacked at WR.

I just don't have to like it.

Thanks for the memories Steve, now go fuck yourself right in the goat ass.

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let's see if the Giants sign Manningham to an extension in season and that is where the money is allocated. And was he willing to play for a 1 year deal with the Giants or did he want 2 years if he was going to accept less money in 2011 provided he got more in 2012. We don't know the answer to those questions.

the issue is Smith calling out this guy for saying it. No one would have seen what the guy said, unless he called them out on it and said he disagreed. He wanted to show the fans that he was different, not like the others, and then he did exactly what he said he disagreed with.

We have two very good starters and depth, if they all stay healthy enough, that a good QB can win with -- and that's a fine place for this or any team to be.

That's what doesn't make sense here.

The Giants have never made excuses for not signing someone. If they don't want someone back at a certain price, they say so. They don't use injuries as a cause if it's not true.

I think they offered Smith a fair deal taking his injury into account, and he was looking for something more.

When he didn't get it, he figured he'd just focus on getting better for a season while having a chance to stick it to Reese.

are we stacked at WR?

We have two good ones, one who can't play a full 16 game schedule, and a bunch of question marks after that.

One injury to Manningham or Nicks and we're scary thin at receiver. Cruz has done nothing in the regular season, same for Barden, and Hixon is coming off of a knee injury

the giants can return the favor and win both games and knock the birds out of the playoff nest this year , leaving Mr. Jeffs case empty once again. you know I like the sound of Mr. Jeff.
And i have never seen Mr. Jeff the eagles owner and Steve Serby togeather at the same time.

If the Giants offered just as much as the Eagles, he would have signed with thr Giants. This was his first choice. He said the Eagles have been in on him for weeks. He gave the Giants every opportunity to sign him, but they made him an offer that wasn't as good as the Eagles, obviously.

of all the teams in the league you could of went to...you picked the motherflippin' Iggles?


Get bent

...his ass is on the line...

But holy shit do some fans have senses of entitlement!

The Giants seemed to show little interest in resigning Smith. Sure, they may have been interested enough to have him come back for a small salary, but Smith isn't obligated to accept that when there are other suitors. Particularly when one such suitor appears to be a contender this year and has apparently implied that they're open to playing Smith earlier than the other team has implied. Football players do like to play football, I'm thinking.

Also, how many receivers have the Giants drafted since Smith? At least 4 that I know of off the top of my head, two of whom have panned out likely beyond the Giants' expectations. Some of the free agent acquisitions we've signed have also shown a ton of promise, including one who was a highly-touted rookie but didn't really pan out at the shitty franchise he played for previously. I mean, at some point you just gotta think that Smith might be something of a casualty of the Giants' recent success scouting, drafting and signing at the position.

**** Smith?

I will always remember he was on his way to Hall Of Fame career in San Diego 1st 3 years 199 Rec, 3000+ yds took the money and went to Green Bay in 5 years 75 Rec, 2283 yds the rest is just a very sad story.

was coming back was if he took minimum $$$. The organization is going to have to sign both Nicks and Manningham to long-term deals soon. With his knee, it's a no brainer. Can't invest top $ for three players at one position.

Tighten the screws on him?

"If the Giants offered just as much as the Eagles, he would have signed with thr Giants. This was his first choice. He said the Eagles have been in on him for weeks. He gave the Giants every opportunity to sign him, but they made him an offer that wasn't as good as the Eagles, obviously."


Who says he's telling the truth?

If the Giants give him 1 year, then NEXT year they're in a position where the have to pick between Thomas, Manningham, and Smith.

My guess is the Giants offered two years at less than 2 million for this coming singular season.

and walks away from the Giants and goes to the Eagles is if the Giants offered considerably less. The Giants don't think he'll be ready to play anytime soon, but they're going to offer him a 2 year contract? That makes no sense.

So Barden, Thomas, Calhoun, Cruz and Jeringan will all now fight to become Eli new security blanket.

Veteran minimum is 625k.

He got 4 m over 2 seasons, half guaranteed.

How much considerably less could the giants have possibly offered? Suddenly Reese makes insulting contract offers to his own successful draft picks?

for the Eagles unless perhaps they think Maclin is done for the year?

I know we all loved Smith, but possession guys like him aren't that hard to find. Maybe not as good as him, but his production is replaceable. Looking forward to whoever can win that 3rd wr spot.

The Giants are not going to ignore the medical staff opinion. The choice between MM and SS just got easier.

Still...what a fuckin kick in the balls

The Giants weren't really so interested in resigning Smith that they were willing to pay him good money *and* put up with what they believed would be a fairly considerable lay off, and Smith wasn't really so interested in taking less money to play for a team that didn't believe he'd be ready to play for a while.

One side is wrong on the hypothetical they based part of their decision on. We just don't know which side yet.

if they have knee injuries and the doctors are telling them he won't be ready for quite some time. He wasn't going to go to Philly if they offered the same amount.

we can't act like the difference between, say, a $1 million offer and a $4 million one -- of which half is guaranteed -- is just some negligible thing that's the equivalent of Amazon throwing in free shipping or some shit. The goes double if one deal is a one-year contract and the other, well, isn't.

I just can't see how anyone with a slightly functional imagination can put themselves in Smith's shoes and think, "Fuck all that, I'd stay with the GGGGGGGGGG-men!"

shot himself and everyone was proclaiming Hixon the next Jerry Rice and that the offense would not skip a beat. We know how well that worked out! You really won't know how much this offense will miss Smith

It's foolish to ever assume an athlete has loyalty to anything more than his family and his paycheck. I don't care what he posts on facebook.


Better former Giants have left the team to go chase money when they felt disrespected.

are faster and will be better...Hixon may be better
now and he can play ST's

If the Giants medical reports are right, and they have the best medical people, Smith will take most of this year to get better. Paying him on a one year contract means you are paying him to rehab and hold a roster spot. Then, next year, he leaves for a bog contract someplace else. You still have to sign Nicks and MM so maybe Reese knows what he's doing and maybe, just maybe, he knows a little more than we do.

The only way he was going to Philly if they offered him more money. Which they did. If the Giants offerd him more or even the same, he would have stayed.

and everyone was like, "Who've we got? A rookie? A 2nd year guy who owed points on his Wonderlic? Steve Smith??"

Goddamn those bums!!!!

I hope Nicks and Manni step it up this season. I know my boy Nicks will bring it as long as he tucks away his cockiness at crunch time. Eli needs targets to throw to especially when September 25th rolls around.

Well consider what he actually got. If you really believe he was offered significantly less than that, then you already have a bad opinion of how the team does business.


Maybe he's making a shred more. There's almost certainly an ego element to this. It's been widely hinted that he was asking for quite a bit more than he ended up taking or the Giants were offering.

Steve Smith was a free agent and there was no guarantee that he was coming back. Why are so many people freaking out? Just like with Plax, the Giants offered Smith what they were willing to risk. The Giants know his medical report better than anybody and they obviously aren't confident that he will be as good as he was. I hoped Smith would be back, but let's face it...Manningham is the #2. Call me crazy, but I think Cruz or Jernigan can be MUCH more explosive in the slot at this point. Gotta move on.

that the Eagles paid him a considerable amount more. I see no reason he would lie about that.

Giants would not sign him and urged him to retire so he would not do more damage to his knees, but he took eagles money but was not the same player, and may still need knee(s) replaced as he ages ( hope not ).

This may not be all bad. Only one year deal, hope he is not rushed to get on the field and cause more damage ( but feel this is what might happen... eagles will pressure him to play since this is a one year deal... no need to take it easy with him on a one year deal ).

Hope he takes their money and takes his time until he is health to play.

Once he sees how other organizations are, he may resign with Giants ( or he may not and return to west coast ).

I posted on another thread about this first. I am just reading about this now, so I haven't even seen everything yet. But, I think he is full of it. The Giants have never expressed anything but interest. But, I think they made other players a priority because they were needed more immediately and Smith would not be ready for the start of the season, in their estimation. I would venture to guess their recent restructures were done with the intent on signing him.

How could he gauge who wanted him more. It doesn't even sound like anyone knew the Eagles were a possibility. I am really pissed at him and say FUCK him. I hope the Giants doctors were right and he is nowhere near ready to play effectively.

Is he a possibility now?

I don't see how you can cry "lowball" when the guy who held the scalpel says he's not ready to work yet.

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How could he gauge who wanted him more

Very quantifiably, that's how.

And how? Well, I don't see why any team would offer him 2 million guranteed (4 million overall) if they didn't think he could contribute most of the season. $2 million is peanuts in todays NFL.

Nobody was beating down Smith's door with offers. If the Eagles felt like they "knew something", they'd have given a 25 year old pro bowl talent a real contract.

Not if they are trying to resign Jackson and Maclin in the near future.

1. What's the over/under on Manning's interception total this year? Let's be real...Smith made him look good.

2. You'd have to be high to think that the prospect of resigning Devin Thomas has anything to do with the offer made to Smith.

3. Some people here act as if they never took another job for more money. Maybe they haven't. If so, I feel sorry for them.

The Eagles are always way under cap. They've always relied on keeping a ton of unused cap-room.

I don't know where they stand after this offseason but I doubt they're pushing the ceiling by any stretch. They're not handing out big contracts like candy. Jenkins and Asomugha are the contracts of significance they added.

what makes this different is the way Steve Smith acted like he was always a Giant. He was a phony the whole time and we all, or most of us at least, fell for it. I never imagined he'd sign with another team, much less the Eagles.

I'm talking about Terrell Thomas.

I am. So I'll wait and see how well Smith does this year before I blame the Giants.

As for blaming Smith for going to the Eagles, all I can say is that I worked for the same place for a very long time and considered myself a loyal employee. However, if somebody else offered me a million bucks more to work for them, I wouldn't even bother cleaning out my desk. I would be out of there so fast, I would leave skid marks.

but Jackson and Maclin's contracts will be fairly large contracts.

reported on NFL Network... this years signings did not impact the cap but the 2nd year of this years contracts are going to eat up eagles cap.

Giants and eagles should be in the same cap situation next year ( this looks like a one year push to win a championship and if it does not pan out Reid may be gone and eagles will start over ).

but this is definitely an all-or nothing year considering the growing frustration over there.

Their defense is still pretty flawed though.

gotcha. mentioning Thomas in the same breath with other WRs threw me off.

Some statistics (from 2009) re Smith, M'ham, Nicks:

Nicks: 10.8 y/a
M'ham: 8.3 y/a
Smith: 7.8 y/a

p.s. can we cut Hixon please...he makes me misspell Nicks?

When I said he can't gauge who wanted him more, I meant without informing the Giants there was another offer on the table, he doesn't know if the Giants would have offered more.

play for the Eagles. He's a true Giant. Suck a dick Steve, you fucking pussy! I really hope his knee is in pain and he fucking tears it all.

speechless at this news. I think Reese needs to clear up a few items about how this happened b/c right now it simply looks like he's totally fucked up this offseason. You have got to be kidding me with this shit. Can't believe we're going to be watching #12 in green. Ugh.

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Hey Eddie, we again got cheap and now have lost SS. If SS comes back strong as the Eagles say, than our coach and GM have to go.I just wonder how long our country, gee golly, QB will last this season with the receivers and offensive line we have.Management has failed miserably and like I said last week , they have no clue on managing the cap. And oh yea, the OSI saga still is going on and festering. I for one don't want the baseball season to end. The press and media will be all in GREEN this football season!!

hmm lets see. Our salary cap was a fucking mess coming into this offseason. We lost both of Eli's 3rd down security blankets (Boss & Smith). We couldn't outbid the Jets (who were the 2nd highest team over the cap behind Dallas) for Plax. We were forced to cut two o-line starters, one who which was probably our best o-lineman last season. We signed an average Center, David Baas, to a contract that almost nobody else in the NFL thought he was worth. Need I go on or are you just wearing your homerism goggles tonight?

the negative posters on this site are out in force now. This might be a great move by the Giants. Only time will tell. The Giants have read the X-rays and MRIs. No one here has. But Jerry is an idiot and the world is ending.

Its a shame we can't allow the eagles fan site to sign some of these guys and get them off our board.

YOU sound like the idiot. It's a one year deal with $2mm guaranteed. You don't let a player like Smith go to your biggest rival without even giving him a chance to prove he could be the same player. He's Eli's favorite WR when healthy and to just give him away for basically nothing is an absolute joke. Players come back from injuries like this all the time now. To let him walk on a one year contract is a total travesty and Reese & Co. totally screwed this up.

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when we hadn't signed AB, Boss, and Smith right away, that we were probably going to lose one....when we lost Boss, I thought it gave us extra money for Smith.....but then the negotiations dragged on....Smith gave them over 100 receptions on a rookie contract.....guess he felt he was owed some recognition for that in a one year contract....thought they would give him a one year performance deal, with a bonus....But Reese played hardball with the wrong guys.....he has some expalining to do on his contract offers(Bass vs Smith/Boss) and also how he has managed the cap....

If Smith does start on time, or comes in after the 6th game, and is recovered, it will not look good,,,,

This is definitely a blow to the offense.....does this team look as strong as the one that started last year?

If Smith comes back before week six or so... But ONLY if he's producing like crazy and is an asset to a winning Eagles team while we're playing .50 ball or worse with an anemic passing game.

If Smith is succeeding but our WR's are as well, maybe this one of those things that worked out for all sides involved.

and gals, it's ALWAYS about the money. Players, teams, league......everything. It's a money driven game. I'm an old-school guy, and I miss the days when players stayed in the same place year after year. That said though, I realize that things had to change for the players to get a bigger piece of the pie. Losing Smith sucks, but in the end maybe someone better will come along.

I say good luck to him. the man is coming off a serious injury and one team was willing to give him a guaranteed $2M while the Giants were probably offering a league min or close to it with incentives.

there is a chance here that Smith never gets a a big Pay Day so this may be his shot to make a few bucks.

Half of you would bitch if we signed him to a big contract and now your bitching he signed with the Eagles. I think he gave every opportunity to the Giants to resign him so I cant blame the guy for taking the money. Its a 1 year deal so he will be a FA again next season. If he barely plays this season he will get a low incentive contract next season until he gets back to a high level.

It sucks that he went to the Eagles but they were probably the ones ones willing to give him money. With the new CBA they are forced to spend a certain amount of money this season so they took a flyer on Smith and overpaid.

There is no blame to go around here it is just a bad situation what came about because of the rules of the game. If this was an uncapped year I am sure the Giants would have stepped up but you cant commit $2M to a guy who may play half a season when you have a tight cap.

Get over it guys.