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Rodney Harrison comments on our lack

MikeN in Ottawa : 10/10/2011 7:00 am
Of leadership. He said he was surprised, with all the veterans we have that there is a distinct lack of leadership on the Giants.

Personally, I have noticed this also especially when JT is out of the lineup.

What say BBI?
unless  
NYBEN : 10/10/2011 7:08 am : link
we are on the sideline or in the locker room we have no idea what type of leadership is on this team.....and that includes Harrison.
All the leadership in the world can't overcome  
mfsd : 10/10/2011 7:16 am : link
getting our butts kicked on both lines. Zero running game + zero run defense = losing football games.
we really aren't getting our butts kicked up front on the DL  
robbieballs2003 : 10/10/2011 7:25 am : link
it is more of a schematic/misunderstanding of the scheme problem. Nobody is setting the edge on defense. All of these runs keep bouncing outside or off of the edge where our guy who is supposed to be setting the edge is flying up-field. Physically I don't really thing we are getting beat up front.

On offense? That is a different story.
thing = think  
robbieballs2003 : 10/10/2011 7:27 am : link
I want to clarify what I am saying. Nobody is setting the edge. Either we are forgetting who is supposed to do it or when the person is supposed to do it he isn't doing it properly.
Football is 90% mental..  
silverfox : 10/10/2011 7:31 am : link
...I see no fire in this team, and I haven't seen it since 2007. By that, I mean a consistent "burn" within to win. They usually come out flat and have to play from behind. We may as well not have any 3rd quarters in our games because they wait until the 4th quarter to "get serious".

I for one can't wait for a total regime change to bring in new blood. That's a hell of a thing to say after only 5 games, but I've felt this way for a few years now and I see NO improvement whatsoever since 2007, despite the draft, new free agents, etc...same old non-burn bunch.
silverfox  
Les in TO : 10/10/2011 7:35 am : link
maybe you missed last week's game against Arizona? the team was going nuts on the sidelines.

the giants were 5 yards away from winning the game yesterday despite their awful play.

we need a better prepared defense and to control the sloppiness on offense. not a leadership or passion issue.
robbieballs - I agree with your assessment of our defense  
mfsd : 10/10/2011 7:40 am : link
with regard to the edge defense, good point
Robbie  
BIG FRED : 10/10/2011 7:43 am : link
I agree 100 % .The edge player is not there .That has happend the last 3 weeks ..
Saw Harrison commenting  
blueblood'11 : 10/10/2011 7:47 am : link
One thing I do agree with him is the inconsistency that surrounds this team and the fact they have a lot of veteran leadership on the team. Having said that, they are not an old team by any means. What I found interesting about his comments, he feels this team should be better then what it shows and in his words, "can't understand the New York Giants". Teams have ups and downs but this team's up and down swings are crazy.
Our Defense  
ada34ada : 10/10/2011 7:56 am : link
Is just bad. We are getting lit-up by these inept offenses. We have very few three and outs. Even when we have a team pinned deep they get to mid-field and flip field position. No injury excuses we would be just as bad with TT and Goff in there. This looks like the Rust - Read and React defense. Gentlemen its time for us to rebuild, which means the entire staff has to go. It also means we have to get players in here that want to play football, the right way. Eric the homepage was so right with the word "Finese" to describe this team.

As for our offense, why the hell would we run a spread formation so much when it was not working. When we went 2 TEs we were able to run and pass more effectively. This side of the ball is almost as bad as the defense. Let's face it this a 6 - 10 year with TC and staff being asked to leave.
Harrison is just doing what most football "experts" do now.  
Riggies : 10/10/2011 7:57 am : link
Not actually analyzing anything, but appealing to the LCD of fans.

The team somehow never loses because it's just not good enough, played like crap, etc. It's always all about ~effort~ or ~leadership~, ~chemistry~ or ~heart~.
This is nonsense  
UberAlias : 10/10/2011 7:58 am : link
Leadership is not the problem.
Here's a thought  
NYBEN : 10/10/2011 7:59 am : link
Maybe they are missing thier best defensive player ...maybe that has something to do with it
We were simply...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/10/2011 8:10 am : link
"flat", showed "no emotion" and did not have any "enthusiasm".

Common retorts for people who can't break the game down in other terms, so they latch onto intangible emotions that they translate through TV coverage.

Maybe Harrison was pissed we didn't take cheap shots this week to show who the Alpha Dog was.
I say a win yesterday,,,and this stooopit  
I Love Clams Casino : 10/10/2011 8:10 am : link
subject isn't even posted.

98 yd TD int doesn't happen, and nobody's worried about things like "no leadership".....Giants were going for the kill shot, and got bit...it happens.....move on

Clams you are way off  
ada34ada : 10/10/2011 8:35 am : link
We had no business even being in that game. We got manhandled up front the entire game. The better team won.
and if the 98 yd TD  
I Love Clams Casino : 10/10/2011 8:44 am : link
does NOT happen and the Giants score instead and win? Are we really talking about how the Giants got manhandled? Nooooooooo

Giants  
PaulN : 10/10/2011 9:13 am : link
Got manhandled two straight weeks, and yes i know i would be. They are playing horribly along both lines. Another pull a win out of his ass by Eli would not have changed a thing other then this, people would believe it would get corrected, now they are wondering if it will, and rightfully so. Plus alkl the playoff talk is now becoming a joke, because anyone who knows this game knows you do not win with a bad defense and bad OLine. No matter how good a running back and recievers and QB you have. Bad OLine plus bad defense equals bad team. Unless you have Peyton Manning.
I was shocked more...  
BillKo : 10/10/2011 10:31 am : link
that Harrison still thinks the Eagles, with all their problems and 1-4 record, can still win this division.
can leadership run block  
jlukes : 10/10/2011 10:36 am : link
?
WHY  
PeterS : 10/10/2011 11:21 am : link
do we even bother with these guys - they're not around the team. It's called commentary for a reason.

Comments like this are why I haven't watched a full pre-game show in years. If I want bullshit I'll go out to the farm!
I'm with silverfox.  
Red Dog : 10/10/2011 12:35 pm : link
This team has no heart. Hasn't had it in a few season now.

I agree that a wholesale change starting at the top is overdue.
A team with no...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/10/2011 12:38 pm : link
heart doesn't try to attempt comebacks when they get behind. We nearly pulled off our second comeback in two weeks.

I really think some of you guys just talk out your ass about inanimate concepts because you have no fucking clue hpow else to explain disappointment.

Every fucking loss is due to a lack of emotion of being flat to some of you guys.
Fatman nailed it, as usual.  
NyquistX3 : 10/10/2011 12:55 pm : link
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If Cruz doesn't slip  
BlackLight : 10/10/2011 1:05 pm : link
he probably catches that pass from Eli. Maybe he's tackled immediately, but I think we go on to score the TD, win the game, and nobody's talking about 'leadership' this morning.

Of all the problems this team has, I don't believe that 'leadership' is near the top of the list.
Many teams win ugly,  
section125 : 10/10/2011 1:16 pm : link
especially when there have been large changes to their lineups (injury). Winning ugly builds character and team "spirit." If Cruz doesn't slip and the next play is a TD, all we are bitching about is the poor line play and crappy running.
What leadership does Rodney want; Ra-ra leadership hasn't been part of the Giants since LT? Tuck is quiet and BJac while wild, is the 2nd string RB. Eli is steady. Rolle gets lambasted here when he speaks up.....
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