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"54's the MIKE, 54's the MIKE" ... a few questions.

Beez : 10/17/2011 6:55 am
I've played the game and have watched religiously since I was a kid. That said, there are "ins" that I don't quite grasp while wathcing the Giants. For example, I was content to believe that "Omaha" was either an audible or some type of identifier for the linemen, receivers, etc.

But in more recent years, you hear Eli (and yesterday, paying closer attention, several other QBs) consistently yelling that X is the Mike." Here are a few questions about that.

* I understand that the QB is identifying the MLB, regardless of where he's lining up in ever-changing schemes. But from that identifier, who benefits most? I assume the O-linemen and perhaps an RB in the backfield.

* Probably doesn't happen often, but how do personnel changes on defense affect the ability and importance of the quarterback's IDing of the MIKE?

* In situations like the Giants playing their 5-2 front, how does a quarterback know which guy is the MIKE? Is it based on knowledge of film and schemes from that week (which would make a film rat that much more prepared and critical for a team's success)? Or is it more a recognition of individual players (when Boley and Williams are in at LB, for example, how would you know which is the MIKE on a given play, without recognition of the way the D is lined up from film)?

* What types of things do we see when the QB fails to correctly ID the MIKE? Are those the plays where, seemingly inexplicably, there's a blown assignment and a blitzing DB slips up the middle untouched for a sack or at least applying pressure?

Wanted to start this thread to get this converstation - and all things related - going. Our quarterback makes many calls at the line, changes plays on many occasions, and it's all about his intelligence, preparation and recognition skills. Very under-appreciated Giant, in some quarters.

Eli calling out that "54's the MIKE" is clearly a hinge for the success of a lot of plays. But just what does that line call do for the O?

Thanks.
This will explain it  
Peter in Atlanta : 10/17/2011 7:00 am : link
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Billick 101 - ( New Window )
My understanding is that is how Eli sets the protection  
mfsd : 10/17/2011 7:01 am : link
up front...I've noticed a lot of other QBs do it this way now too. For example, you could hear Brady calling out who the Mike was before every play during the Pats-Cowboys game

I'm sure some others could explain it in more detail - I think the general idea is to identify whether the offensive linemen have responsibilities to one side or the other at the snap. The times Eli changes it seems to be when he reads a blitz that will overload the pass rush from one side, thus he changes the protection to shift the blocking that way

It's definitely one of those little things about Eli that doesn't show up on the stat sheet...by most accounts, he's excellent at getting the blocking set up properly
Afterthought ...  
Beez : 10/17/2011 7:02 am : link
... was interesting to hear Phil Simms mention, during the broadcast, how he tinks Eli's gotten better at the line as he's matured. He still doesn't seem to make as many (or maybe it's just that they're not as emphatic) calls at the LOS as his brother (no one does), but this year, it seems to me (and maybe it's not accurate) that he makes more adjustments.
IDing the Mike is more for the benefit of the offensive line  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/17/2011 7:03 am : link
Eli identifies the Mike, and the line sets it's protection off that. Probably not always the case though, since that would be an easy thing to exploit for defenses.


One thing I've noticed, Eli will pick out the Mike, but it's not always a linebacker. Sometimes it's a defensive back that's playing up at the line.
Peter, excellent.  
Beez : 10/17/2011 7:06 am : link
Thanks.
Interesting in the video with Billick ...  
Beez : 10/17/2011 7:13 am : link
goes without saying for many ... but amazing how important it is for the QB to have done copious homework and know at LEAST tendencies of defenses when they're in certain "looks."

Bringing a DB up to the line on one side may push the focus of the offense that way, as far as blocking. But, too, just as critical in a defense's prep and ability to disguise things and trick a QB (or center, or whoever makes the call) into to making the wrong call.

Seems simplistic, but during a game with a rookie or young QB (or even O-lineman), his inability to perform well may only have a small amount to do with his physical talent, and more to do with his experience in making calls to give the offense its best chance for success.

Look at Vince Young, a guy who's infinitely physically gifted. Need I say more?
I think the term creates some confusion.  
Big Blue Blogger : 10/17/2011 7:15 am : link
The phrase "identifying the MIKE" conveys the impression that the identity of the MIKE is a secret of the defensive alignment, and that the QB has to unlock that secret to set his protection correctly.

It might be more accurate to say the quarterback is "assigning the MIKE". While it's important that the QB's choice is reasonable and doesn't create any impossible blocking angles or mismatches, the most important thing is that the blockers are all on the same page. If they all start from a common understanding of who's responsible for whom, a blown assignment is much less likely. The most frustrating thing for any OL coach is to see two or three blockers gang up on one defender, while another guy runs free at the QB.
"omaha"  
Fred in Atlanta : 10/17/2011 7:26 am : link
means get ready to snap the ball.
great post  
igotyourbackman : 10/17/2011 7:40 am : link
learning is good
I think identifying the Mike  
jmac13 : 10/17/2011 8:11 am : link
might also affect who the hot read is against the blitz
As noted, the QB identifies the Mike to set the protection  
regulator : 10/17/2011 8:12 am : link
the Mike isn't necessarily the MLB, either. In general, there are two types of protections: zone schemes with man adjustments and man schemes with zone adjustments. Without getting into too much detail, setting the Mike allows the C to make his line calls so as to delegate responsibilities amongst all the players (RB included) remaining in to protect.

DBs, OLBs, and stand-up ends can also be ID'ed as the Mike, based on the defense a team plays or what kind of pre-snap read they are giving.
Brady was barking out "Alpha"  
blueberry : 10/17/2011 8:53 am : link
I would imagine same as Omaha
If Omaha or Alpha  
Beez : 10/17/2011 8:58 am : link
are indicators for the O to be ready for a snap, does it change as the game goes aong? Similar to way a catcher might have to change up signs throughout a ballgame? You'd think over a 60-minute football game, it would become evident how those calls would work, otherwise.
If I'm not mistaken  
Sneakers O'toole : 10/17/2011 9:00 am : link
and I could be since I'm not privy to the Giants offensive meetings and what not, I believe that the Omaha call signals that there will be no further audibles and they are going to go with the play as it currently stands. That is often quickly followed by a snap, but it doesn't necessarily have to be.
Doesn't the OMAHA call  
Enoch : 10/17/2011 9:01 am : link
just mirror-image the previously called protection scheme? It wouldn't necessarily help the D to hear it unless they had already figured out what blocking concepts the offense were going to use.
There was a playbook  
Fred in Atlanta : 10/17/2011 9:04 am : link
I saw on the internet that stated "Omaha" was for snapping the ball. He usually uses it as the play clock comes close to zero.
They don't snap on Omaha  
Sneakers O'toole : 10/17/2011 9:05 am : link
There's always a seperate call for the snap.
Blogger  
SwirlingEddie : 10/17/2011 9:08 am : link
Assigning the MIKE is a great description.

The way it was explained to me by other posters so I could grasp it is that, at the most simplistic level, you have five OLs who can block five defenders. In addition to the four DLs there will be one other defender the OL is responsible for and that player is designated as the Mike by the QB. Other blitzers will be the responsibility of the Back or the QB/WR on a hot read. It gets much more complex of course but the concept made sense to me.
omaha is a dummy call it is not for the snap  
nygiants16 : 10/17/2011 10:08 am : link
there are always dummy calls made by the qb...peyton manning half the stuff he does at the line is a dummy call..it throws off the defense..

as for calling the mike it is for the protection...eli calls out the mike and the line block accordingly...for example if the mike is lined up to the right the line will slide right an dblock from there....
I have read tha "Omaha"  
old timer : 10/17/2011 10:38 am : link
Means the snap count is live. And in watching the games it seems to be the case.

Cool thread.  
vibe4giants : 10/17/2011 10:47 am : link
Though I know have no idea what Omaha really means.
Swirling Eddie  
4to80 : 10/17/2011 10:55 am : link
Spot on...
Saying the snap count is live  
Sneakers O'toole : 10/17/2011 10:59 am : link
is just another way of saying what I said before, that they are going to run the play as it stands with no further audibles or changes. It's the same thing.
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