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Corey Webster... Playing at a Pro Bowl Level

JoeyBigBlue : 10/17/2011 10:01 am
Since Week 3 the Giants decided that Webster would guard the other team's No. 1 receiver no matter where the receiver has lined up. Webster has rewarded the Giants confidence in him, by having 4 solid games against some pretty solid competition in DeSean Jackson, Larry Fitzgerald, Sidney Rice, and Stevie Johnson. He completely shut down DeSean Jackson and Sidney Rice. He did a fair job containing Larry Fitz, and for the most part did great against Stevie Johnson. I know he was beaten for a TD against Johnson, but that was more a great move by Johnson.

The only knock on Webster, so far this season, is his run defense. The Cardinals game comes to mind, he has looked less than stellar when teams run sweeps to his side.
He's def not a good tackler,  
kmed : 10/17/2011 10:02 am : link
but he's the best cover corner on this team, with our without TT, IMO.
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Danny Kanell : 10/17/2011 10:04 am : link
His 2nd pick yesterday might be the most important play of the year to this point.
webster is great  
Strahan91 : 10/17/2011 10:05 am : link
but i dont think ross gets enough credit. Correct me if im wrong, but I didn't see him get beat for more than a minimal gain once yesterday
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Danny Kanell : 10/17/2011 10:06 am : link
Ross has been good too. And he’s been good and sure handed returning punts. He’s actually become a VERY valuable player for us with the injuries, etc.
S91  
Big Blue '56 : 10/17/2011 10:07 am : link
Ross has been solid thus far, imo
Strahan91  
JoeyBigBlue : 10/17/2011 10:08 am : link
I like Ross a lot at well, but he hasn't faced a decent No. 2 receiver in 3 weeks now. Teams aren't throwing in his direction because he's not facing anyone. Webster is the guy assigned to the other team's top threat. We'll see what we have in Ross when we play teams with 2 good receivers like the Cowboys and Packers.
He is a very good cover man that made 2 great plays  
goldy1313 : 10/17/2011 10:08 am : link
yesterday, but both of those passes were underthrown and on the second one he was beaten cleanly off the line. If Fitzpatrick throws that ball earlier or deeper, we may be saying different things here. That having been said, the balls WERE under thrown and Webster was in position to make the plays and did.
Neither Webster nor Ross is playing pro bowl football  
JonC : 10/17/2011 10:09 am : link
They play very well in spots, and very poorly in others.

Webster's "tackling" is abysmal.
He's finally making a few plays that he's getting paid  
ZogZerg : 10/17/2011 10:13 am : link
to make. But, he's making plenty of mistakes as well.
that 60 yard pass play  
ConMan22 : 10/17/2011 10:16 am : link
webster looked awful on. It looked like he came in, squared the guy up, and then just turned and let him run right by him. That being said, he saved the game yesterday. I really thought he was going to get PI called on him on his first pick. Glad to be wrong.
Webster made very good plays on the INTs  
JonC : 10/17/2011 10:18 am : link
but both passes were indeed underthown helping his cause.
Ross and Webster have played solid but  
lester : 10/17/2011 10:21 am : link
I cant stand Rolle in coverage.......bring on the Prince. Its his time.
JonC  
JoeyBigBlue : 10/17/2011 10:24 am : link
Webster was clearly beaten on the 2nd INT, but he was step for step with Johnson on the 1st INT. I don't think a good throw beats Webster on that 1st INT.
A good throw leading the receiver  
JonC : 10/17/2011 10:26 am : link
beats Webster on both INTs.
Webster and Ross are solid  
Headhunter : 10/17/2011 10:27 am : link
You know receivers catch the ball occasionally, that's what they are paid to do. Even Revis gives up catches, yesterday McCourtney got beat and got turned around. The problem is Deon Grant, he is a liability back there, needs to be upgraded
Most corners get beat,  
kmed : 10/17/2011 10:27 am : link
but he recovered and put himself in position to make a play and he made plays. He's a bad tackler and he's about 100 times better at it than Ross. I've been content with Ross. I think early on he lacked confidence considering it's been a while since we have relied on him like we are, but he's getting better each and every week. He's soft as hell though.
Ross used to be a very willing tackler  
JonC : 10/17/2011 10:29 am : link
not so much now, but still more effective tackler than CW.
I don't see QB's targeting either Ross or Webster  
Headhunter : 10/17/2011 10:32 am : link
like they say a Cromartie. They will get thrown at, and will give up catches, but you don't go to the well too often, cause you will get burnt
Headhunter  
JoeyBigBlue : 10/17/2011 10:35 am : link
I think that has more to do with how good Revis really is. Far and away the best corner in football.
I do not believe Ross is nearly as effective as Webster.  
kmed : 10/17/2011 10:38 am : link
Actually, neither is effective at all, but Ross shies away and will throw a shoulder once in a while, but never wraps up. I think Ross has had some serious should injuries which might effect why he doesn't extend his arms to wrap up.
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kmed : 10/17/2011 10:39 am : link
as a tackler that is.
But even Revis  
Headhunter : 10/17/2011 10:39 am : link
gets the ball in his direction and even gives up completions. Revis is the best in the business, no doubt, but he still gets action. Al Harris was a Pro Bowler in 2007 and Burress abused him in the Ice Bowl II, it happens
Corey Webster  
JoeyBigBlue : 10/17/2011 10:39 am : link
vs. Stevie Johnson

5 Receptions for 39 yards ( 3 Passes Deflected, 1 TD given up)


Leon Hall vs. Stevie Johnson

4 Receptions for 58 yards (0 Passes Deflected, 0 TD given up)


The TD given up hurts Webster, but that was more a great move off the line.
Webster has been very very good  
GiantFanInTX : 10/17/2011 10:46 am : link
but I'm wondering what will happen when we play some more elite receivers. We haven't really seen that yet.
DeSean Jackson  
Headhunter : 10/17/2011 10:49 am : link
is not elite? Better tell the Eagles that before they pay him this summer as an elite receiver
Larry Fitz  
GIANTSr01 : 10/17/2011 11:01 am : link
sucks too...
Webster  
Toth029 : 10/17/2011 11:01 am : link
Faced off against Fitzgerald as well, and stoned his pass on 4th down late against the Cardinals.

But let's forget that.
Stevie Johnson  
kmed : 10/17/2011 11:03 am : link
also might not be a household name(yet), but he's a fantastic talent. What a totally misinformed post that was.
Webster may not be the best tackler  
mrvax : 10/17/2011 11:10 am : link
but it's nice to have a CB that can actually catch a pass. He played pissed off and determined he was going to grab that ball no matter what.

The 2nd pick saved the game. Nice job so far this year.
rookie Ross  
NYG007 : 10/17/2011 11:42 am : link
had a separated shoulder and was still beasting it on tackles. I think he is so paranoid to get hurt again, he is losing part of his game.
Johnson is very good  
KWALL : 10/17/2011 11:52 am : link
He very quick. Looks like a tough guy to jam.
Webster still makes plays  
oipolloi : 10/17/2011 3:13 pm : link
Overall, i think his play has declined since his stellar 2008 season

But he made plays to win the game against both Arizona and Buffalo. Giants arguably lose both games if not for Webster's big plays.

It seems almost at times if he is setting guys up. Early in the game he plays off and gives up some easy receptions in front of him. Then, boom, at a crucial moment he jumps the route he has been playing off all game.
Corey Webster  
JoeyBigBlue : 10/18/2011 4:55 pm : link
playing very well picking up steam in the media...


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There are so many players in the NFL  
MarshallOnMontana : 10/18/2011 5:39 pm : link
and the sport has lagged behind when it comes to statistical analysis of some of the positions on the field, that the sport as a whole winds up having a bunch of players who get tremendously undervalued nationally. Webster is one of those guys. He's one of the best CB in the NFL. He should have made a pro bowl or two by now, but a guy like DRC makes it because he has 6 INTs one year. If data like the stuff pro football focus does with stuff like coverage stats ever caught on, people would bring his name up with some of the better corners in the league. He had brilliant seasons in 2008 and 2010.
Webster  
Flanker7 : 10/18/2011 5:44 pm : link
#7 corner in the NFL from 2008-2010 according to PFF.


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