Report: Eagles looking to hire Spags as DC

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We have Perry Fewell!

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Just kidding




But not really

been speculating on this for some time... makes perfect sense.

I'm going to be irate if they allow Spags to go there.

Giants have no control over this.

one more year

Philly hires Spags as their DC, and the Giants keep their current coaching staff, or just fire Fewell to placate the fanbase. We need an overhaul of our staff.

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1. Spagnuolo gets fired in St. Louis. I think chances are better that he gets one more year.

2. If he does get canned, no other team offers him a HC gig. A team with better talent than the Rams might take a chance on him and there are likely to be 5 or 6 HC vacancies this year.

3. The Giants don't swoop him up themselves. The Maras definitely realize what it'd mean if he's in Philly.

Why does it make perfect sense? The place he became a hero and won a title very well might have the exact same position open?

Why does it make perfect sense? The place he became a hero and won a title very well might have the exact same position open?

at LB. I'm sure Spags would do a better job than Castillo but like the Giants some of the issue is the willingness to pretend that position doesn't matter.

Coughlin isn't going to fire Fewell.

Sorry for the double post.

This can't happen. Please God.

should Spags get one more year in St. Louis? He's done a really bad job as a HC there.

because he has stronger ties to Philly than the Giants.

He made his name in NY. Positional coaches are after thoughts in the NFL.

I'm sure he has a soft spot for the NYG.

They can block him from going there by giving him a job on this staff.

... as DC. He already has that pelt on the wall. Anything short of duplicating what he did in 2007 would tarnish his legacy.

The guy just absolutely refuses to fire any of his coordinators (see Quinn, Tom).

That type of change doesn't happen overnight.

will have to question the Giant's sanity or insanity if they allow this to happen. They have to know that Spags is walking the plank. And he will most assuredly be available. How can they not have in the back of their minds to fire Fewell at seasons end and make a real play to lure him back. I realize if you fire Fewell and Spags is not reeled in, you need to replace Fewell. Well, my answer to that is, there has to be many more coordinators in waiting better then this guy.

He does? He had strong ties to Jim Johnson.

Yup, but they didn't improve at all this year. In fact, they regressed terribly.

Spags may or may not be HC material. He's a good DC, but he may not be a good HC.

Coughlin should worry about his own job. If we miss the playoffs, he's likely a goner.

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back in St Louis next year.

The same stuff was said about Bill Belichick. And look how he did his next time around.

I think Spags could be a really good HC, but if he's fired he's not going to get a shot for a few years. That might benefit him too.

You can't "block" someone from going someplace by offering him a job. You are suggesting that he would automatically pick the Giants over the Eagles. That's just dumb.

see in a month. My guess is he ends up in Philly.

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as we thought. After all, his record in St. Louis is pathetic. I think as FMIC pointed out, it has not been mediocre like some good coaches, who have achieved later success with other teams, i.e., Bill B. in Cleveland. It has been terrible.

He was good here, not great here. So, would I like him back as DC, yes. But, that is not to say, I think he is indispensable or that he will automatically transform Philly's D.

Let us remember one other thing. Castillo is a scapegoat. Philly's D has not been awful as advertised. It has, with the offense, contributed to a lot of fourth quarter meltdowns. The offense has had some brutal turnovers. Maclin has cost the Eagles about three games all by himself. And, the defensive personnel in Philly is very soft, like ours, up the middle. Next year, it is unlikely that they have either DRC or Samuel and Nnamdi will be 31 and he looks 30 this year.

that 2 mil a yr contract he had before he left and he'll sign here over Philly. Ties don't matter as much as $$. If the FO really want him they simply have to outbid Philly for his services. Plus he has a better chance of taking over as the next head coach over here considering Coughlins age.

Simms, please, just go away. Thanks.

favor in St. Louis is whether or not their ownership will want to pay dead money to a fired coach. They may choose to let one moreyar go by for that reason alone. It's about the only reason I can think of

that horrible example of typing should read "more year"

the playoff 07 and 08 D was fantastic. His blitzes were things of beauty.

The fact that Coughlin won't can Fewell ,especially if Spags is available as DC is why I am leanig toward the idea it might be time for the Giants and Coughlin to part ways

I'm not sure he's all that friendly with Reid; didn't Reid stop him from jumping to Minny the year he left for us (for the Viking DC job?). I'd still be ticked over that, if I were Steve.

And it's not like helping Reid helps him. Reid will probably stay for a while, because the Eagles have invested their franchise in Vick...and without Andy Reid, Vick probably reverts back to Ron Mexico status. Tom is more likely going to either be let go, or get his last contract.

In the end, as it always does, it will come to money. If the Giants FO 1) Forces Tom to fire PF, and 2) comes up with more money than Philly, then Spags comes here. The Giants, I think are a better situation for him...he has more talent here, and either would have the inside track, or become a "hot coordinator" again.

the Giants' defensive coordinator position is not vacant.

Reid and the Eagles blocked Spags from interviewing the year before the Giants hired him

neither are a lot of jobs.

We're going to have to wait a couple of weeks to see how it pans out. A lot of things can change in the month of December.

all of this could be moot anyway for a variety of reasons, not the least of which being that the Eagles and the Rams may make their moves before the Giants even play a playoff game.

Well said on both points.

why say the Giants have no control over this? If TC stays, refuses to fire Fewell and doesn't offer Spags the DC job is a choice.

cement the Giants coaching staff in place

Give me a break. I said "The Giants need to do everything they can to prevent this," and "they can (not will) block him from going there by giving him a job on this staff". I never once implied that he would automatically pick the Giants over the Eagles, and merely suggested that they make every effort possible to stop it from happening. They do have some control over whether or not he goes there by offering him their DC position and spicing it up by giving him some other title such as assistant HC. If they do all this and he STILL picks the Eagles over the Giants, then I hold the Giants at zero fault.

is adding to his ever increasing list of demonstrations of his inability to evaluate coaching talent.

Spags has ties to Philly and there is a lot of talent there. He can go there and re-establish his stock. As someone else mentioned, he's already done it here...why come back in the same role? If Spags is back here, it will be as HC.

will move back to LA.

Rams keep Spags for another year and dump him for a "name" coach when they're ready to move

Since I'm reasonably certain Coughlin will be out of a job too

But there's not a whole lot the Giants can do there.

He got offered a HC job while he was here, he took it.. if he becomes available again, the only thing we can do is potentially offer more money. Ultimately, it'll be up to him.

That sounds familiar

But seriously,you can't believe everything that comes out of Philly.We'll see what happens at seasons end.

I do think it's going to be harder to get Spagnuolo a second time around.

will not win the division any time soon. I am willing to bet my life on it. It is time to move on as an organization. It was a nice run but change is inevitable and frankly, very much needed at this point.

really liked living in the NY Metro area. That is another factor in our favor.

If Tom misses the playoffs, you can bet the house he only comes back if he agrees to clean out the coaching staff. There is no way in hell that the Giants will allow Tom to come back with all the current assistants, especially if the defense continues to quit on PF.

And I doubt seriously that Tom, as loyal as he is, will choose to quit if he can't keep the current staff. He's no lock to get another job at his age, even with his record. He was forced to get rid of Hufnagel, this is no different.

He got the most out of his players when he was here...something the last two coordinators have failed at doing.

Eagles fire Reid and Spags becomes their new head coach. The Giants could only compete if they offered the HC job also and were willing to out bid the Eagles.

Spags will never be the Giants DC again.

John Mara really wants to keep Tom. I think, missing the playoffs will put a tremendous amount of pressure on John Mara to fire Tom, but hiring Spags back at DC might make the difference to the fan base, or at least enough cover to all John to make a very unpopular decision.

Again, all bets are off if the decision is already made to get rid of Tom if the team fails to win the division. A new HC will want his own choices for OC/DC.

which is another reason he should be fired.

We are wasting Eli's best years based on "stability".

This is becoming a joke of an organization.

on here in Rams land. If you want to talk injuries, the Rams injury list makes the Giants list look good by comparison. It's been one string of problems after another for St. Louis.

What you will also never see in St. Louis is any of the players blaming each other, chirping about coaches or schemes, or any cracks in the facade. The Rams are a team that still is sticking together and if the ownership values that (and can see it), then it is entirely possible that this staff will get another year.

So before we go off spouting about the "terrible job" Spags has done in St. Louis, it might be worthwhile to actually look at the facts.

Egles to say they are interested in Spags.
This is just a rumor. If it is true the commissioner would be all over them.

Are you hearing that the ownership is behind Spags in St. Louis?

Well, if we miss the playoffs for a third straight season & Mara gives this 'stability' garbage to the fans as a reason for keeping TC, BBI will explode.

If the ship be sinking, in the immortal words of Michael Ray Richardson, it's time to bail.

They didn't see the other DC as a good fit, and fired him. They made another stupid hire at DC, and now looks like they will fire him. I like that. I wish we'd be more proactive. If someone is a bad fit, recognize that quicker, and make a move.

He was gone after one year. Fewell may be gone after 2.

Fewell deserved another year.. he really wasn't bad last year. But if we continue to suck defensively, it'll probably be time for a change and I think a change will be made.

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Christ the defense totally gave up. We were going crapped on for 40 points. But we tended to keep Hufangel, Lewis, and now Fewell if he comes back yet for another year. Sheridan was an all around shit show. What was it 10 games of 30 or more points and 4-6 I think of 40 or more points? Something like that maybe. Pathetic DC. We still have fucking Quinn!

I get the sense that the Eagles are quick. It's almost they realize, ok this was a bad hire, let's fix it quickly and find the right fit.

for Fewell, he really has to show he is worth keeping. If this team plays like they did in NO, you can count on him not having a job next year, and possibly even a change in our HC.

If Spags is available somehow, The Giants need to seriously take a look at him as our future HC, you cannot let that man go back to Philly.

It would be poetic justice if the Giants win Spags in the offseason over Philly, with last season the Eagles taking away Smith from us. I'd prefer the Coaching genius over the key player.

There is no reason the Giants shouldn't consider firing Fewell and hiring Spags contingent on him being the heir apparent to the HC spot. Spags had success here and I think he would love to come back to the city that absolutely loved him.

what ar ethe chances Gilbride gets promoted to HC? Giants fans would not be happy but perhaps he'd get rid of Fewell and seek his own Dc.

didn't do anything to deserve to be our HC. If he goes back to philly it's because he has roots with that team. I am not willing to make him a HC with such little experience and a bad showing there.

You mean like the Giants were with Sheridan?

Gilbride is the next HC, BBI will meltdown lol

Fans tend to look at the past too easily, the professionals tend to look forward to new opportunities. I'd be a bit surprised if he returned to NYG unless it was as HC.

Because it'll mean things worked out for the '11 Giants.

that would suck something awful

Eagles should lose a draft choice and pay a fine.

can Spags ever live up to the legacy that he left? The pressure on him would be tremendous.....

But Fewell has to go, and if, I say if, Spags is released, then he may be the best option for us, if he wants to face the pressure of returning to this team....

And Spags is overrated.

Alrighty then....

to keep him from Philly. That would just be disastrous.

No one from the Eagles organization is quoted as saying that they're interested in Spags.

It quotes a "league source" which could be just about anyone and that there are rumors in Philly.

Well, there's rumors in NY as well.

This is not tampering. It's rumor.

Spags was good here, but he has a Lombardi reputation among the "knowledgeable" on BBI. Would I want him instead of Fewell, Yes. But some people on here are just nuts. I remember the second dallas loss at home in 07 all of the fans screaming this D never gets big stops. Spags is a bright, good coach. If he went to the Eagles it would suck, but they are not getting Bellichick. I can promise you that.

How has spags done in St. Louis? Have his D's done well? And, if by overrated you mean Lombardi and Bellichick and Buddy Ryan, yes he is overrared. If you mean good to very good DC that describes him very well.

If we make the playoffs, Philly or some other team out of the playoffs will sign him quick. A team with an incumbent HC who wants a new DC.

But even if we dont make the playoffs... Giants will take a few days to decide on a new HC, then once they decide on a HC would they force Spags on the HC? Or will he want to intervue a few candidates of his own? By then he'd probably be gone too. Spags wont stay in the market long if he's ok going back to DC.

Now if he decides to test the market for another HC opportunity, maybe we have a shot if no team offer him the HC job.

that doesn't happen.

You called him overrated. Not me. Right after you told us to remember Castillo was a scapegoat.

Now you want me to explain your comments for you?

Both get axed and Spags ends up in NY as our new HC.

Highlight the exact quote you are referring to

theyre gonna kill that poor woman!

And I can't figure out how to copy and paste on this POS.

Re-read your opening post on page 1.

This will likely happen and as much as it sucks...

Unless our defense improves dramatically next year it won't matter.

how Philly wouldn't let him interview for DC positions until his contract expired.

And then tried to force him to sign a new contract as LB coach over a weekend.