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Victor Cruz is one of the quickest WRs I have ever seen

mort christenson : 12/5/2011 11:35 am
And there was a point in training camp I thought he was a possible cut. I am glad I was wrong (see kmed, it's not so hard to say that) about him.

But when he runs his routes, you can see how there is sometimes just no way the DB can stay with him. He has made Manningham superfluous. And what's more, he has matured over time to where you can see he is working at his craft like a professional. Not doing the TD dance last week was discussed last week and that shows awareness of the team nature of things but he is where he is supposed to be on a very consistent basis which he wasn't earlier on. Maybe the Stokley signing was a good prod in his ass or maybe it was coming anyway but Eli now has good data to back up what is a burgeoning trust.

I thought our starting WRs in 2012 would be Barden and Nicks but Cruz and Nicks look like a long term combination for us. Great compliments in style and both versatile.
He has terrific short area quickness and burst  
JonC : 12/5/2011 11:39 am : link
good stuff, mort.
Josh in the City : 12/5/2011 11:40 am : link
crazy to think that an undrafted rookie FA in his first full year in the NFL could actually break all of the Giants receiving records. Just think about that for a second. Insane.
A good point and a kmed  
Jon in NYC : 12/5/2011 11:40 am : link
callout. This thread has potential.
I am a big Fam  
Chef : 12/5/2011 11:41 am : link
And I am starting to feel better about the strong possibility of Mario walking in the Offseason
Oh man,  
kmed : 12/5/2011 11:42 am : link
if you are going to start making posts for all the times you are wrong, this place is going to be mortchristensoninteractive.
When I saw that game against the Jets in preseason  
Antdog23 : 12/5/2011 11:42 am : link
I was like where did this kid come from. Then we forgot about him to a point. He comes in camp, reports of him dropping passes and not stepping up. Not really getting a whole lot of looks in preseason. Then BAM, explodes on the NFL like a cruz missle. What a find....
Who knows where he would be  
Jay in Toronto : 12/5/2011 11:43 am : link
had he had Rice as his mentor?

The fact that he has shown significant progress to go along with his natural talent is cause for great optimism.
Cruz is amazing and his upside is huge.  
kmed : 12/5/2011 11:43 am : link
It's essentially his rookie year and with Nicks on the other side, we will always have someone open. I would love someone in the middle of the field(preferably a TE) who can keep defenses honest too. That's not a knock on Ballard, I like him.
Cruz has elusiveness...  
BillKo : 12/5/2011 11:45 am : link
which you can't really teach.

Every time he catches the ball, he looks like he is going to break away due to the types of moves he has.

Other than Eli, Cruz is the best thing about this season.
gidiefor : Mod : 12/5/2011 11:46 am : link
I mocked Beez for calling the Cruz shot early on this year - but Beez is my bitch!
it's amazing  
ShockNRoll : 12/5/2011 11:50 am : link
we all knew he had talent in that jets preseason game, but who knew it would convert to what he's done this year in the regular season on a week to week basis where he has been one of the most, if not, THE most, explosive receivers in the league. really impressive. he needs to average 67 yards per game the rest of the way to break toomer's single season yards record (1,343) and needs 6 td's to tie homer jones' single season td's record (13).

is it bad that i'm already thinking how he'll probably hold out next year for a better contract?
oldog : 12/5/2011 11:50 am : link
Nicks, Cruz, Ballard, Barden, Manningham, Beckum (Who?),Bradshaw, Jacobs. Eli keeps the field expanding. You can never have too many. And let's not forget Hixon, who we hope will recover, and who went out on such a fine catch.
he has not made Manningham superflous  
chris r : 12/5/2011 11:52 am : link
you need more than 2 good receivers these days
He ran that route  
Rflairr : 12/5/2011 11:53 am : link
That steve smith ran that broke scandricks ankles
I hope they put Revis 1 on 1  
Headhunter : 12/5/2011 11:54 am : link
with Cruz. If Stevie Johnson can turn him around, Cruz will have him dancing the salsa
I want Eli to throw it to him all the time.  
Jim in Forest Hills : 12/5/2011 11:55 am : link
I love saying CRUUUUZ in my living room. My two little girls join me now. CRUUUZZ. He looks like a keeper.
Headhunter : 12/5/2011 11:59 am : link
I think Jernigan will be in the mix next season
Nicks has been double covered  
Thunder27Lightning44 : 12/5/2011 12:14 pm : link
almost all season. The few times that teams have decided to put him 1 vs 1 on a corner with a safety deep, Nicks has burned them making outstanding catches. The SF TD is just one example. But there are others. I love Cruz but If I could only have 1 I would take Nicks. Hes the better player overall. Hes so tough and just makes incredible catches. Hes a complete reciever
He's been  
hudson : 12/5/2011 12:23 pm : link
the most exciting Giant for me in a long time.
If Manningham walks...  
Goin Deep : 12/5/2011 12:23 pm : link
after this year (More money from another team in FA), should
the Giants lock up Cruz to a long term extension after only
one GREAT productive Year.
Tough decision. I want Cruz on this team for a long time.
I want  
hudson : 12/5/2011 12:32 pm : link
Manningham gone, and Steve Smith or a Plax Burress tall type in there to go with Cruz.
Next year  
Adam XLII : 12/5/2011 1:18 pm : link
I hope our WR corps looks exactly like it did yesterday. Cruz/Nicks starters...Cruz to the slot and Barden to the outside in 3 WR sets... 4th WR Jernigan/Beckum

TEs Ballard/Beckum with a new blocking specialist to play for different 2 TE formations...
Anakim : 12/5/2011 1:19 pm : link
Ummm. Ramses Barden....
don't worry about holding out.....  
BillKo : 12/5/2011 1:29 pm : link
he'll be broke in a week with the new CBA.

Players, esp low paid ones, have no leverage with the amount of the fines.

But, look for the Giants to get him locked up before he even gets to FA.
Marty866b : 12/5/2011 1:35 pm : link
I had my doubts about him when he was dropping balls in the preseason but WOW.Did he prove me wrong.The Giants should target him like the Pats do Welker.He gets open effortlessly with his amazing quickness.Just a joy to watch.
Cruz possesses a vital intangible:  
santacruzom : 12/5/2011 1:39 pm : link
Obviously good rapport and chemistry with Eli. That may be something of a side-effect of another vital intangible he possesses: the ability to think a fraction of a second faster than everyone else. In any case, he not only knows where to get to on the field in relation to where the defenders are, but he also seems to know where Eli will find him. And he makes it look easy.

I think his mental quicks are just as beneficial as his physical quicks.
I say  
RETUSAF : 12/5/2011 1:39 pm : link
"Other than Eli, Cruz is the best thing about this season."

Plus JPP!!!
gosh it doesn't seem that long ago  
Jay in Toronto : 12/5/2011 5:02 pm : link
that we were looking for warm bodies to be our WRs. How things have changed.
But, does kmed have elusiveness?  
manh george : 12/5/2011 5:07 pm : link
Not so much, I fear.
Think about this  
oldasdirt : 12/5/2011 5:58 pm : link
Every day on the Corner Forum you can read a post bemoaning the injuries the Giants have sustained this year. Injuries are routinely used by some as an excuse. But if not for injuries, Victor Cruz would be stocking shelves at Walmart and the Giants would be without their best receiver.

Victor Cruz is to the Giants what Wes Welker is to the Patriots.

Every cloud has a silver lining.
anyone remember the thread a few months ago  
chris r : 12/5/2011 6:05 pm : link
about how Cruz really isn't that quick?
Yards after Catch  
MarshallOnMontana : 12/5/2011 6:14 pm : link
NFL WR's in 2011

1. Welker 555
2. Megatron 375
3. Cruz 360
4. S. Smith 347
5. M. Wallace 346

By the way, if you haven't seen it, try and look at the YAC run on Mike Wallace TD yesterday. That guy is just sick
I don't Chris  
santacruzom : 12/5/2011 8:35 pm : link
but I do remember several Cruz-related threads from a few months back where I was saying the same shit that I'm saying now :)

Not enough is made of how much of an advantage it is to be able to process information quickly as a receiver. We get so wrapped up in 40 times -- shouldn't it make sense that thinking .2 seconds faster than everyone else is at least as much of an advantage as running a 40 yard dash .2 seconds faster?
chris r : 12/5/2011 8:44 pm : link
here it is.
Link - ( New Window )
Gotta love the undying love for Duke Calhoun.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/5/2011 8:50 pm : link
I found another thread  
santacruzom : 12/7/2011 1:33 pm : link
that seems pretty prescient right about now
get on board the Cruz train - ( New Window )
Is Philly's Steve Smith  
Big Blue '56 : 12/7/2011 1:42 pm : link
on the bottom with zero?
haha, you hate  
kmed : 12/7/2011 1:43 pm : link
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