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Eli's Legacy - If he beats Tom Brady twice

Canton : 1/23/2012 3:57 pm
who is arguably the best QB to ever play the game. Your thoughts?

I mean think about it.  
Canton : 1/23/2012 3:58 pm : link
This is how legends are made..
Still say Unitas and Montana are at the top  
BoldRuler : 1/23/2012 3:58 pm : link
.
lmao...  
tyleraimee : 1/23/2012 3:58 pm : link
just..lmao
this is not basketball  
chris r : 1/23/2012 3:58 pm : link
you don't play and directly beat your positional counterpart.
Let's not get giddy  
PEEJ : 1/23/2012 3:58 pm : link
just yet
He's already beaten Tom Brady twice.  
Ron from Ninerland : 1/23/2012 3:58 pm : link
If he does it in the SB, that'll be three times in a row.
To be the man, You gotta beat the man  
Ben in Tampa : 1/23/2012 3:58 pm : link
he'd be the new Tom Brady
my thoughts are to keep specualtion and that stuff quiet till after  
slefrak : 1/23/2012 3:59 pm : link
the super bowl.
I don't know about best QB ever  
illmatic : 1/23/2012 3:59 pm : link
He would have to win another one in the future to be in that discussion, I think. But he'd definitely be up there in a short list.
Chris - we understand that.  
Canton : 1/23/2012 3:59 pm : link
but it is still up against a Brady led team. It's for the historians.
If he beats him twice...  
Brown Hornet : 1/23/2012 3:59 pm : link
...he's obviously better. Kinda like the Redskins beating the, umm...


...nevermind~
Montana  
Blue Baller : 1/23/2012 3:59 pm : link
Joe
Win or lose  
Go Terps : 1/23/2012 3:59 pm : link
He's on his way to the Hall of Fame.

I think his legacy will be as a player who rose to the occasion in the biggest spots. He's never going to put up monster TD/INT ratios and such, but I think he'll finish his career in the group of immortals (Montana, Unitas, Brady) as a big game QB.

We got this guy for nothing.
If/when we win the Super Bowl  
Kyle : 1/23/2012 4:00 pm : link
Brady (07-now) : Eli :: Peyton : Brady (01-06)
All of the pressure falls on the Pats!  
RELICDOA : 1/23/2012 4:00 pm : link
First of all the Pats first few SuperBowls are in question with them cheating!!! Then to lose to Eli 2x!!!! I love it!!! Let's go GMEN!!!
no  
Les in TO : 1/23/2012 4:01 pm : link
Eli has a few more years to play before entering the conversation for GOAT.
Ding.  
GiantFilthy : 1/23/2012 4:02 pm : link
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If he beats him twice...
Brown Hornet : 3:59 pm
...he's obviously better. Kinda like the Redskins beating the, umm...



illmatic  
Canton : 1/23/2012 4:02 pm : link
I didn't say Eli Manning would be the best QB ever. I mentioned Brady being the best, arguably of course, thus the mentions of Joe Montana here.

I think Eli will be primed.........  
Simms11 : 1/23/2012 4:03 pm : link
and will probably have a good game, however, it's our defense that will have to contend with Brady?! Eli can only do that when our D gets some stops.
My bad  
illmatic : 1/23/2012 4:03 pm : link
I read it wrong. I'm still out of it from last night. lol
Why isnt the SpyGate scandal talked about???  
RELICDOA : 1/23/2012 4:03 pm : link
If two teams are pretty even and one of the teams spys on the other to learn formations and what their gameplan is going to be. How is that not a big deal?? There should be an * next to their wins!!!!!
I also don't think this will be Eli's last trip to the dance......  
Simms11 : 1/23/2012 4:05 pm : link
I think he has another one in him too. If this team can stay together and we solidify some ares on the team, I think they could potentially get here again, in Eli's time.
Brady is Eli's bitch  
grhein8008 : 1/23/2012 4:09 pm : link
Like peyton is bradys bitch
New Englanders think this game  
bceagle05 : 1/23/2012 4:10 pm : link
is about revenge, but it's really gonna be the game that puts Eli and Coughlin in the Hall of Fame. I truly believe that. I also think the Giants can win this game by two scores. I think our defense will get more stops than theirs.
Eli is 31 yrs old....  
Rory : 1/23/2012 4:10 pm : link
and just hit his prime. Say he locks down another superbowl win over the pats.

With this reciever core and some fine tuning to the offensive line, Its not unreasonable to think that he cant have another title 2-3 years from now.

If that is accomplished and he stays healthy. He very well could have the numbers and criteria by then to be considered upper echelon all time great
"At the end of the day ..."  
The Original G Man : 1/23/2012 4:10 pm : link
When he hangs up his cleats, you won't have to go too far down the list of greatest QBs of all-time until you get to the name "Eli Manning."
Eli  
RobCrossRiver56 : 1/23/2012 4:12 pm : link
is one win from a HOF lock and he knows it.
Go Terps - I totally agree  
Canton : 1/23/2012 4:12 pm : link
Quote:
Go Terps : 3:59 pm
He's on his way to the Hall of Fame.

I think his legacy will be as a player who rose to the occasion in the biggest spots. He's never going to put up monster TD/INT ratios and such, but I think he'll finish his career in the group of immortals (Montana, Unitas, Brady) as a big game QB.

We got this guy for nothing.
won't be close  
PaulBlakeTSU : 1/23/2012 4:12 pm : link
to the greatest QB of all-time.

However, he will cement himself as the best QB to ever play in NY (passing Tittle, Simms, and Namath).

He will forever be remembered as the guy who beat one of the greatest QBs and coaches twice in the Super Bowl.

He will be remembered for (likely) winning more Super Bowls than his brother, who I consider to be the best QB I have ever seen.

And perhaps best of all, when players are reduced to having one certain trait that makes them great-- Eli's will be that he elevated his game as the pressure mounted. No matter the time on the clock left, no matter how many times he gets hit, he is never fazed.

And he will have done all of that while playing in the biggest media market in the country while living in the shadow of his superstar brother his entire life. Not bad for a guy that many think is nothing but "aww shucks."
PaulBlakeTSU  
Canton : 1/23/2012 4:15 pm : link
Bingo!
Need to stop it.  
Beez : 1/23/2012 4:16 pm : link

Right now.
I could not be more proud of a player!! than I am  
RELICDOA : 1/23/2012 4:17 pm : link
Of Eli Manning!! Unreal, I wish nothing but great things for him. He will forever be remembered as the greatest Giant QB in my childrens eyes. And to many young Giant fans. My children will forever remember the 07 run and now this run long after I'm gone. And Eli will be the Giants they remeber.
One thing that goes away of Eli wins the  
Headhunter : 1/23/2012 4:17 pm : link
Super bowl is the "Trent Dilfer won a Super Bowl managing the game, just like Eli"
Beez- are you reading through the thread?  
Canton : 1/23/2012 4:21 pm : link
Or is it your inability or failure to understand the premise of this thread?

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Need to stop it.
Beez : 4:16 pm

Right now.
In that  
JINTin Adirondacks : 1/23/2012 4:23 pm : link
dome on turf if he rings up 42 and turns the lights out on Brady and the Pats and say SB MVP with the year he's had, HOF-yes and sits next to LT as greatest Giant ever.
whether eli is greatest qb ever  
marc in easton : 1/23/2012 4:23 pm : link
is a very debately question, very. If he continues down this path, greatest clutch qb ever not so much. Not a bad title to have.
How about Eli Manning 2 Time SuperBowl MVP?  
GMAN4LIFE : 1/23/2012 4:26 pm : link
now we are talking!
We have entered a new era of Giant football  
Headhunter : 1/23/2012 4:26 pm : link
Anything less than a Super Bowl the season will be deemed a failure. Like the Yankees it is all about World Championships
idiot  
BigBlueDieHard : 1/23/2012 4:28 pm : link
thread....
marc in easton - The question ..  
Canton : 1/23/2012 4:39 pm : link
isn't about Eli being the best QB ever.The question is what would Eli's legacy be, if he beats a Brady-led team, who is arguably the best QB to ever play the game, twice.

The reading comprehension for some here, is mind boggling.
Eli's new nickname to me  
gregwpkt : 1/23/2012 4:40 pm : link
is "The Only QB." As in, The Only QB to ever throw 2 TDs in the 4th Quarter of the Super Bowl; The Only QB to ever throw a TD to win the Super Bowl when a TD was needed; The Only QB to ever win two playoff games at Lambeau; The Only QB to ever throw 15 4th Quarter TDs in one season; The Only QB to win two NFC Championship Games for the Giants. What next?
Oh...  
Brown Hornet : 1/23/2012 4:43 pm : link
...I get it now. Your wording is a bit screwy with the break in there.

I still think that the Redskins suck.
What next?  
BlueLou : 1/23/2012 4:45 pm : link
Hopefully "the only QB whose team bested Tom Brady twice in the SB" for starters?

That would be nice, and a very fitting end to this particular season for Eli.
I think his legacy will be as the QB  
chris r : 1/23/2012 4:49 pm : link
whose team beat Tom Brady's team twice in the SB.
Thank Jim Fassel and Johnnie Lynn.  
Big Blue Blogger : 1/23/2012 4:52 pm : link
In the 2004 Draft, the Giants picked fourth among the four teams that finished the 2003 season at 4-12. If Fassel and Lynn had managed a single win in their last eight games, New York would have tumbled toward the bottom of a group of about seven teams at 5-11. A trade for Eli might still have been possible from around #10, but it wouldn't have been easy.

Hopefully he'll be revered  
bceagle05 : 1/23/2012 4:53 pm : link
as much as Derek Jeter and Mariano Rivera. Champions who played the right way and loved the big game.
Eli after beating Brady again  
Jim in Fairfax : 1/23/2012 5:14 pm : link


not the greatest  
mdc1 : 1/23/2012 6:18 pm : link
but starting to knock on the door. Montana, Bradshaw, Unitas and a few others are in a club by themselves
Eli would go on the Mount Rushmore of NFL players  
Some Fan : 1/23/2012 6:27 pm : link
if he wins this SB. Now, my Mount Rushmmore has more than 4 dudes but less than the NFL HoF. In any case, Brady is on it already, Eli will be on it along with his brother.

Mount Rushmore meaning that he will forever be thought about as one of the all-time greats. He may not have the stats of today's superstar QBs but he will have the SBs and that will be an absolute, rock solid, legacy changer for Eli.
If he keeps having seasons like this one  
Dave in Hoboken : 1/23/2012 6:30 pm : link
for the rest of his prime, he is headed to the HOF, even if the Giants lose this SB. However, winning this SB would go along way in helping him.
Eli  
Les in TO : 1/23/2012 6:37 pm : link
will be a hall of famer with a win in the SB. His legacy at least to this stage of his career is a guy who comes up big when the season is on the line and when the game is on the line - he has ice in his veins. He's not always pretty, he has no speed/ability to threaten defenses with running the ball and he makes the odd dangerous throw into double coverage, but he's a winner, plain and simple. This year he impressed me with his leadership, command of the offense and ability to cut his losses on plays without taking stupid risks. He's maturing and hopefully continues this awesome level of play for years to come. We are blessed.

But we'll have to see how his career plays out before entering him into the conversation with Brady, his big brother, Montana, Elway and Marino.
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