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Re-Watching Game: Early OL Observations

Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/24/2012 4:24 pm
I just re-watched the Giants' first three offensive possessions of the game, focusing mostly on the OL.

Drive #1: 9 plays, punt
Drive #2: 9 plays, downs
Drive #3: 10 plays, TD

The OL actually played pretty darn well on the first three drives. There wasn't much running room, but the Giants did pick up some tough yards. The one glaring disappointment was the failed 4th-and-1, but it wasn't the case of an OL missing the block.

Pass protection was very sound except for Chris Snee getting beat very badly on the 9th play of the 1st drive on 3rd-and-8. McDonald ran around Snee to sack Manning and cause a fumble than pushed the Giants into a 4th-and-21.

The tackles blocked well early. So did Boothe and Baas in pass pro. There was one play where a LB charged into Baas and knocked him backwards on a running play, but Baas played well. When he got hurt late in the 3rd drive, Boothe went to OC and Petrus to LG. Petrus immediately gave up a pressure as he was late in recognizing a stunt.
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Nevermind...  
rnargi : 1/24/2012 5:58 pm : link
I was thinking of the 2nd and 1 that Bradshaw failed to convert on the opening drive of the 3rd quarter...my bad.
I think Eric's analysis of the OL  
JerseyJoe : 1/24/2012 6:43 pm : link
is spot on.

SO If we go after a guy like Nicks I imagine it'll be at LG since we like to pull our guards and he has good lateral movement. Then hope that Diehl plays well at RT since that does seem like the ideal spot for skillset.
I did notice that as well when Petrus  
prdave73 : 1/24/2012 6:45 pm : link
came in when Baas got injured, the first play he was in the 49ers dline got pressure on him and he got pushed back, but after that I thought he played very well. Imo though the line looked much better and more solid when Baas came back and Boothe moved back to LG..
I just posted Greg Cosell's notes on the game  
BSIMatt : 1/24/2012 7:25 pm : link
and he said exactly that...that the Giants oline was actually good in protection in the first half, and their play deteriorated in the second half. He actually highlighted Diehl as the lineman who played best, and that he did a good job on Aldon Smith. The one play where Diehl was beat badly was by Justin Smith.
Blood in the water after the 4th and OT...  
x meadowlander : 1/24/2012 7:55 pm : link
...Belicheck should and probably will bring a boatload of pressure, particularly late in the game. Gilbride HAS to gameplan for that.
I think a big factor  
SLIM : 1/24/2012 8:38 pm : link
was the team speed and great tackling. With the 49ers blitzing, the Giants tried some screens and shorter passes that actually had a chance and the 49ers either caught the guy from behind or came up quick. If the Giants hit on one or two, the 49ers have to back off on the pressure. They didn't so the 49ers kept sending players.

The Patriots have nowhere close to that team speed.
I  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/24/2012 9:30 pm : link
just finished the first half.

The two big negative plays by the OL were by Chris Snee. He gave up both first half sacks and both of them to McDonald.

The OL was pretty decent other than that. Terrible start by Snee.
I thought the OL did a pretty good job in the first half  
cnuke : 1/24/2012 9:50 pm : link
The second half was a blood bath. I haven't rewatched it, but I thought the DL was doing a lot of stunting.
From PFF  
BSIMatt : 1/24/2012 10:40 pm : link
Quote:
The 49ers defense registered 44 total pressures in this game. More on their own than the Ravens and Patriots combined to record in the AFC Championship game (36 total pressures).

Re-Focused: Giants @ 49ers, Championship Round - ( New Window )
Tale  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/24/2012 10:42 pm : link
of two halves (except for Snee).
What do you mean?  
Scuzzlebutt : 1/24/2012 10:51 pm : link
Snee was good in both halfs or bad. I seem to remember Snee getting beat once or twice just like every other OLineman.
Eric  
chris r : 1/24/2012 11:00 pm : link
any theories on Snee's dropoff this season?
chris  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/25/2012 12:00 pm : link
Could be hurt? I don't know.

I'll tell you...McDonald was a brute inside. He gave Boothe all he could handle on another rush.
Scuzzle  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/25/2012 12:01 pm : link
that's not what I said at all. I said the only two big negative plays by the OL in the first half were the two sacks given up by Snee.
Diehl  
Jon in NYC : 1/25/2012 12:08 pm : link
seems like a natural fit at RT for at least next season.
I remember seeing  
Ace718 : 1/25/2012 12:08 pm : link
Diehl being overpowered by Smith and being driven into Eli. On the other side, Mckenzie was being beat by the speed of the other end.
I think I  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 1/25/2012 12:14 pm : link
Read somewhere that Snees been dealing with a shoulder problem all year. I hope he can give us a strong bounceback season next year. If he doesn't rebound and this is the caliber of player he'll be from now on out, this OL is in some deep shit.
As talked about earler in the year,  
Randy in CT : 1/25/2012 12:22 pm : link
I think Snee is playing hurt. And I think it is kind of bad.
Ace  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/25/2012 12:22 pm : link
My review was of the first half.
Agree with Randy re Snee.  
BlueLou : 1/25/2012 12:32 pm : link
But we'll never know for sure as that info is locked up "in the family."
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