Enough is Enough - David Baas Will NOT be cut this year

Okay... what if we cut.... Rolle?

but he sure is overpaid. Yikes.

even if it is only til 2014

That is credible say Baas might be cut?

i wish i got paid 250,000 to go to the gym

He sux.

another idiotic trope that keeps popping up around here.

to date Kate Mara!

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Baas has crossed the minds of the people who have the power to cut him, so I wouldn't worry.

jacobs to TE
trade osi, kiwanuka to DE

Championship

nopenotserious

on how many games he misses next year?

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don't you let the people that got us to the Super Bowl worry about it?

snapping several times over Eli's head..

he's be cut this year?

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Baas (and the OL) played fairly damn well down the stretch except for the 49er game. It's not just my opinion, but Jerry Reese said the same thing.

Remember how we were all worrying about Wilfork? Boothe and Baas kept him quiet.

were at Eli's feet.

could Baas because he sucks and we need cap room.

Cutting Baas would make our cap situation WORSE!

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he'll get at least one more season

start that shit from scratch, yo. Better to cut guys a year too early than a year too late. I read that in a fortune cookie, once.

but he did very well. Hopefully he can be healthy and play well for a whole season because as is noted on this thread we are pretty well cap-committed to the guy.

He finally got healthier later on and he was excellent in the Super Bowl against Wilfork. People need to have some fucking patience.

did a great job when he was assigned to Wilfork, Very impresive.
Baas, we'll judge him at the end of the 12' season, this would be reasonable, yes?

and being paid alot of money. We really shouldn't need to wait for him to perform. If he was a rookie or 2nd year player, then that is different.

pretty much the entire Super Bowl was for the BS holding call.

And Wilfork is a monster.

Baas will be fine.

The coaches can't just wave a magic wand here.

comes in and performs pretty well and is making ALOT less money, it reflects poorly on Bass, fair or unfair. He obviously can't control injuries (for the most part), but it's a bummer for him.

Wilfork nearly every snap. No idea why the Ravens didn't do that.

The Pats had little threat on the pass rush, and with doubling Wilfork it made Mark Anderson look like Michael Strahan.

Only with some here on BBI was he ever in danger of being cut. Finally healthier, he did well in the Playoffs and sorta made Wilfork his bitch in the SB..

I'd much rather have Baas and Boothe than just throw Boothe at C, put Petrus at LG and have zero depth.

but he was banged up

he deserves another year

and was not that great the second year, but then turned out to be a good player

like Canty, Baas is learning a new position. Spent most of his career in SF as a guard

Came up through college at center, is a natural center, and finally played well his last year in SF when playing... center.

to have a conversation with people who were going to cut Baas is fruitless. Talk to a telephone pole instead.

You'll get better feedback.

to be a powerful player.

And certainly the year after...if his play doesn't improve. Baas' presence on the roster should not preclude them from drafting an interior lineman, even early if it's the BPA.

next year he might not get cut in 2013. For him to be on the roster in 2013 he's gonna have to rework his deal.

There is NO F'N way we pay him 10.45 mil in 2013. You can take that to the bank!

Giants need a back-up center. Hopefully they one pick-up via the draft or free agency

we aren't paying him 10.45 in 2013, you need to re-read the OP

he's right about one thing.
We won't pay Baas 10.45 million in 2013.

add up his signing bonus and his salary for 2013 and that's what you come too.

He'll either have too redo his deal or he'll be sent packing. GMen won't pay that for 2013.

dorgan, I want in

my bad....I was adding both of those together.

That's what you get when you don't use your glasses and it's late in the day at work!

The notion that people on this board think that the Giants would trust an unproven rookie C to line up in front of Eli are laughable.

The team has a QB playing on the highest level. There is zero chance a rookie would be starting at this stage of Eli's career.

What has Konz done to warrant this "great" label.

the Pats, for example, were comfortable with Nate Solder starting 13 games for the Pats. Brady is older, and less mobile than Eli and has already lost an entire season to injury.

If the Giants FO and coaches felt he was the best option a rookie could absolutely start on the Giants o-line. Especially considering the beating he took against some teams last year (SF, the Eagles) couldn't be much worse.

interior OL after DeCastro. Not many are suggesting he would start in 2012, but Snee started as a rookie.Let's hope Baas improves because if you don't think Eli took more hits in 2011 than ever before, then we watched different games.

...Fricke is not available?
Ben Fricke died at age 35 - ( New Window )

...I was going to use Ben Fricke (tough as an old boot) in a joking way, but found the link that he died from colon cancer at age 35 (happened a while ago). Now that sucks, and there's no way around it. Left a wife and child.

it would be tough because of the no off season AND on top of that the guy was in and out of the line up. You can't do shit as expected with those things. I expect him to play much better.

If the scouts and Reese think one of these centers is too good value to pass up then go for it.

Whole point was about a C replacing Baas. Snee is a G, Vollmer is a RT. The C makes the line calls and is directly in front of the QB.

The Giants like interior guys who can play multiple positions. Can konz do that.

1) Baas had very little time to mesh with the others on the OL, considering the shortened offseason. He was also the only new guy.
2) He dealt with injuries all season long.
3) Outside of the 49ers game, the OL played very well late in the season. Wilfork was a non factor in the Super Bowl.

Saying he is a bust is stupid talk.

needing time to jel and work together etc, but #1 is a little bit of a cop out and has garnered media cliche status.

rookie o-lineman came in and played well with no ota's mini-camps, shortened training camp and no history of playing in the NFL - even at center, like Pouncey in Miami, and other non-centers (smith, solder, etc.).

Why can they do it as rookies, and a high-priced veteran center can't be expected to?

Pj; it doesn't help matters when Bass, the new guy, is dealing with multiple injuries & isn't out there on the field. You need to be on the field to jel with your fellow lineman.

buy the injuries - especially on the o-line where strength and leverage are so important.

I'm not sure I buy the shortened camp and no OTA/mini-camp reasons so many have put forth to explain it.

given a big contract. He was hurt his first year also. Now they are talking about extending him.

why the hell Baas is getting paid as much as he is? We signed him last year. He was 29 years old and had had exactly 1 full season starting at center in his career and we're paying him quality left tackle $. No one should be surprised at his less than mediocre play this year. IMO this was a very un-Reese-like move and I think it will come back to bite us in the ass.

I have no problem with Baas starting at center next year, simply because I think we have other more pressing needs to address and I think he'll do better than last year. But still those figures are outrageous.

...is probably extremely difficult to play through.

How did he perform in the playoffs.

He was.the best FA C last year. His signing bonus was 8.5m for 5 years. That is pretty reasonable. His big number is salary, which is easier to deal with

I think you can win a SB with him at center

All offseason we're going to hear "Cut Baas/Canty/Rolle/Diehl/Barden/Beckum/Sintim/Jernigan"

Did I miss anyone?

Boley!

you almost have to look at them like rookies. Canty, Bernard, Boley and Rolle didn't start off with a bang, but now they each have a big role on the team(Bernard less, but he's also playing better than his first year).

I expect improvement in his play next year.