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Enough is Enough - David Baas Will NOT be cut this year

jlukes : 2/21/2012 4:15 pm
From Mike G's story when we originally signed him


SIGNING BONUS: $8.5 million
2011: $1m (guaranteed)
2012: $3m ($2m guaranteed)
2013: $4.25m
2014: $4.75m
2015: $5m

WORKOUT BONUSES: $250,000 each year from 2012-15

Quick math shows that works out to these salary-cap numbers:
2011: $2.7m
2012: $4.95m
2013: $6.2m
2014: $6.7m
2015: $6.95m

Cutting Baas would accelerate the remaining 6.8 million of his bonus to this year.

Baas's salary for this year is 3 million - and two million of that is guaranteed.

Thus, it would COST us almost $6 million to cut Baas

Baas does not become 'cuttable' (meaning we actually save money by cutting him) until 2014.
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hyadoin : 2/21/2012 4:19 pm : link
Okay... what if we cut.... Rolle?
Maybe not  
tito wooten : 2/21/2012 4:20 pm : link
but he sure is overpaid. Yikes.
I wish I had that kind of job securtiy  
TJ : 2/21/2012 4:21 pm : link
even if it is only til 2014
Did anybody  
Life Long Giants Fan : 2/21/2012 4:21 pm : link
That is credible say Baas might be cut?
enjayray : 2/21/2012 4:21 pm : link
i wish i got paid 250,000 to go to the gym
I think we should cut him anyway.  
arcarsenal : 2/21/2012 4:21 pm : link
He sux.
and he's not getting moved to guard either  
WeatherMan : 2/21/2012 4:22 pm : link
another idiotic trope that keeps popping up around here.
Not unless he tries . . . .  
TC : 2/21/2012 4:23 pm : link
to date Kate Mara!
I like Boothe more  
tito wooten : 2/21/2012 4:23 pm : link
I don't think cutting  
pjcas18 : 2/21/2012 4:24 pm : link
Baas has crossed the minds of the people who have the power to cut him, so I wouldn't worry.

draft a center  
enjayray : 2/21/2012 4:24 pm : link
jacobs to TE
trade osi, kiwanuka to DE


Dave in Hoboken : 2/21/2012 4:24 pm : link
on how many games he misses next year?
the_fridge : 2/21/2012 4:24 pm : link
mdthedream : 2/21/2012 4:25 pm : link
don't you let the people that got us to the Super Bowl worry about it?
Boothe looked really good  
Blue Blood : 2/21/2012 4:25 pm : link
snapping several times over Eli's head..
who said  
chris r : 2/21/2012 4:26 pm : link
he's be cut this year?
Baas also almost got Eli killed several times.  
Dave in Hoboken : 2/21/2012 4:26 pm : link
Boothe is better suited at guard.  
arcarsenal : 2/21/2012 4:26 pm : link
Eric from BBI : Admin : 2/21/2012 4:26 pm : link
Baas (and the OL) played fairly damn well down the stretch except for the 49er game. It's not just my opinion, but Jerry Reese said the same thing.

Remember how we were all worrying about Wilfork? Boothe and Baas kept him quiet.
In fairness, most of his snaps  
vibe4giants : 2/21/2012 4:26 pm : link
were at Eli's feet.
This was directed at the people that keep spouting off that we should  
jlukes : 2/21/2012 4:27 pm : link
could Baas because he sucks and we need cap room.

Cutting Baas would make our cap situation WORSE!
preach it, brother!!  
djm : 2/21/2012 4:28 pm : link
I agree  
Power Wins Football Games : 2/21/2012 4:29 pm : link
he'll get at least one more season
let's just cut EVERYONE!!!  
djm : 2/21/2012 4:29 pm : link
start that shit from scratch, yo. Better to cut guys a year too early than a year too late. I read that in a fortune cookie, once.
I was very skeptical that Baas would handle Wilfork  
the_fridge : 2/21/2012 4:31 pm : link
but he did very well. Hopefully he can be healthy and play well for a whole season because as is noted on this thread we are pretty well cap-committed to the guy.
Baas was hurt for a lot of the year...  
arcarsenal : 2/21/2012 4:32 pm : link
He finally got healthier later on and he was excellent in the Super Bowl against Wilfork. People need to have some fucking patience.
TonyG : 2/21/2012 4:33 pm : link
did a great job when he was assigned to Wilfork, Very impresive.
Baas, we'll judge him at the end of the 12' season, this would be reasonable, yes?
The guy is a veteran  
tito wooten : 2/21/2012 4:34 pm : link
and being paid alot of money. We really shouldn't need to wait for him to perform. If he was a rookie or 2nd year player, then that is different.
The only time Wilfork's name was mentioned  
mfsd : 2/21/2012 4:36 pm : link
pretty much the entire Super Bowl was for the BS holding call.

And Wilfork is a monster.

Baas will be fine.
When he's playing fairly hurt, there's not really an option.  
arcarsenal : 2/21/2012 4:36 pm : link
The coaches can't just wave a magic wand here.
I know, but when his backup  
tito wooten : 2/21/2012 4:38 pm : link
comes in and performs pretty well and is making ALOT less money, it reflects poorly on Bass, fair or unfair. He obviously can't control injuries (for the most part), but it's a bummer for him.
The Giants double-teamed  
pjcas18 : 2/21/2012 4:38 pm : link
Wilfork nearly every snap. No idea why the Ravens didn't do that.

The Pats had little threat on the pass rush, and with doubling Wilfork it made Mark Anderson look like Michael Strahan.

Jlukes agree.  
Big Blue '56 : 2/21/2012 4:40 pm : link
Only with some here on BBI was he ever in danger of being cut. Finally healthier, he did well in the Playoffs and sorta made Wilfork his bitch in the SB..
Depth is important.  
arcarsenal : 2/21/2012 4:40 pm : link
I'd much rather have Baas and Boothe than just throw Boothe at C, put Petrus at LG and have zero depth.
Baas was poor this year  
bxgiants4 : 2/21/2012 4:42 pm : link
but he was banged up

he deserves another year
Canty sucked his first year too  
oipolloi : 2/21/2012 4:50 pm : link
and was not that great the second year, but then turned out to be a good player

like Canty, Baas is learning a new position. Spent most of his career in SF as a guard
learning a new position? nope.  
WeatherMan : 2/21/2012 4:52 pm : link
Came up through college at center, is a natural center, and finally played well his last year in SF when playing... center.
dorgan : 2/21/2012 5:02 pm : link
to have a conversation with people who were going to cut Baas is fruitless. Talk to a telephone pole instead.

You'll get better feedback.
Baas looks too thin below the waist  
giantBCP : 2/21/2012 5:04 pm : link
to be a powerful player.
You can have this conversation next year though  
AcesUp : 2/21/2012 5:07 pm : link
And certainly the year after...if his play doesn't improve. Baas' presence on the roster should not preclude them from drafting an interior lineman, even early if it's the BPA.
If Baas plays out of his mind....  
damdevs : 2/21/2012 5:09 pm : link
next year he might not get cut in 2013. For him to be on the roster in 2013 he's gonna have to rework his deal.

There is NO F'N way we pay him 10.45 mil in 2013. You can take that to the bank!
Rob_MTL : 2/21/2012 5:13 pm : link
Giants need a back-up center. Hopefully they one pick-up via the draft or free agency
YAJ2112 : 2/21/2012 5:14 pm : link
we aren't paying him 10.45 in 2013, you need to re-read the OP
dorgan : 2/21/2012 5:19 pm : link
he's right about one thing.
We won't pay Baas 10.45 million in 2013.
damdevs : 2/21/2012 5:26 pm : link
add up his signing bonus and his salary for 2013 and that's what you come too.

He'll either have too redo his deal or he'll be sent packing. GMen won't pay that for 2013.
10+ million in 2013?  
gidiefor : Mod : 2/21/2012 5:27 pm : link
dorgan, I want in
damdevs : 2/21/2012 5:29 pm : link
my bad....I was adding both of those together.

That's what you get when you don't use your glasses and it's late in the day at work!
stretch234 : 2/21/2012 5:32 pm : link
The notion that people on this board think that the Giants would trust an unproven rookie C to line up in front of Eli are laughable.

The team has a QB playing on the highest level. There is zero chance a rookie would be starting at this stage of Eli's career.

What has Konz done to warrant this "great" label.
Disagree stretch  
pjcas18 : 2/21/2012 5:36 pm : link
the Pats, for example, were comfortable with Nate Solder starting 13 games for the Pats. Brady is older, and less mobile than Eli and has already lost an entire season to injury.

If the Giants FO and coaches felt he was the best option a rookie could absolutely start on the Giants o-line. Especially considering the beating he took against some teams last year (SF, the Eagles) couldn't be much worse.
Konz is considered by most the 2nd best  
bob in tx : 2/21/2012 5:37 pm : link
interior OL after DeCastro. Not many are suggesting he would start in 2012, but Snee started as a rookie.Let's hope Baas improves because if you don't think Eli took more hits in 2011 than ever before, then we watched different games.
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