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Enough is Enough - David Baas Will NOT be cut this year

jlukes : 2/21/2012 4:15 pm
From Mike G's story when we originally signed him

Quote:

SIGNING BONUS: $8.5 million
BASE SALARIES
2011: $1m (guaranteed)
2012: $3m ($2m guaranteed)
2013: $4.25m
2014: $4.75m
2015: $5m

WORKOUT BONUSES: $250,000 each year from 2012-15

Quick math shows that works out to these salary-cap numbers:
2011: $2.7m
2012: $4.95m
2013: $6.2m
2014: $6.7m
2015: $6.95m


Cutting Baas would accelerate the remaining 6.8 million of his bonus to this year.

Baas's salary for this year is 3 million - and two million of that is guaranteed.

Thus, it would COST us almost $6 million to cut Baas

Baas does not become 'cuttable' (meaning we actually save money by cutting him) until 2014.
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Unfortunately (this really stinks) Ben...  
BMac : 2/21/2012 5:42 pm : link
...Fricke is not available?
Ben Fricke died at age 35 - ( New Window )
A note on my above post...  
BMac : 2/21/2012 5:44 pm : link
...I was going to use Ben Fricke (tough as an old boot) in a joking way, but found the link that he died from colon cancer at age 35 (happened a while ago). Now that sucks, and there's no way around it. Left a wife and child.
I knew  
AnishPatel : 2/21/2012 5:48 pm : link
it would be tough because of the no off season AND on top of that the guy was in and out of the line up. You can't do shit as expected with those things. I expect him to play much better.

If the scouts and Reese think one of these centers is too good value to pass up then go for it.
Konz  
stretch234 : 2/21/2012 6:01 pm : link
Whole point was about a C replacing Baas. Snee is a G, Vollmer is a RT. The C makes the line calls and is directly in front of the QB.

The Giants like interior guys who can play multiple positions. Can konz do that.
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SanFranGiantsFan : 2/21/2012 6:11 pm : link
1) Baas had very little time to mesh with the others on the OL, considering the shortened offseason. He was also the only new guy.
2) He dealt with injuries all season long.
3) Outside of the 49ers game, the OL played very well late in the season. Wilfork was a non factor in the Super Bowl.

Saying he is a bust is stupid talk.

I agree with o-lineman  
pjcas18 : 2/21/2012 6:17 pm : link
needing time to jel and work together etc, but #1 is a little bit of a cop out and has garnered media cliche status.

rookie o-lineman came in and played well with no ota's mini-camps, shortened training camp and no history of playing in the NFL - even at center, like Pouncey in Miami, and other non-centers (smith, solder, etc.).

Why can they do it as rookies, and a high-priced veteran center can't be expected to?

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SanFranGiantsFan : 2/21/2012 6:21 pm : link
Pj; it doesn't help matters when Bass, the new guy, is dealing with multiple injuries & isn't out there on the field. You need to be on the field to jel with your fellow lineman.
I definitely  
pjcas18 : 2/21/2012 6:23 pm : link
buy the injuries - especially on the o-line where strength and leverage are so important.

I'm not sure I buy the shortened camp and no OTA/mini-camp reasons so many have put forth to explain it.
It took three seasons for Michael Boley to show us why he had been  
Reese's Pieces : 2/21/2012 6:37 pm : link
given a big contract. He was hurt his first year also. Now they are talking about extending him.
Can someone please explain to me  
Knee of Theismann : 2/21/2012 7:39 pm : link
why the hell Baas is getting paid as much as he is? We signed him last year. He was 29 years old and had had exactly 1 full season starting at center in his career and we're paying him quality left tackle $. No one should be surprised at his less than mediocre play this year. IMO this was a very un-Reese-like move and I think it will come back to bite us in the ass.
And personally  
Knee of Theismann : 2/21/2012 7:41 pm : link
I have no problem with Baas starting at center next year, simply because I think we have other more pressing needs to address and I think he'll do better than last year. But still those figures are outrageous.
I think a neck injury for an O-Lineman...  
arcarsenal : 2/21/2012 7:42 pm : link
...is probably extremely difficult to play through.
knee  
stretch234 : 2/21/2012 8:16 pm : link
How did he perform in the playoffs.

He was.the best FA C last year. His signing bonus was 8.5m for 5 years. That is pretty reasonable. His big number is salary, which is easier to deal with
Of course bass won't be cut  
Some Fan : 2/21/2012 8:54 pm : link
I think you can win a SB with him at center
Why bother with this thread?  
BigBlueBuff : 2/21/2012 9:09 pm : link
All offseason we're going to hear "Cut Baas/Canty/Rolle/Diehl/Barden/Beckum/Sintim/Jernigan"

Did I miss anyone?
Buffer, shame on you..  
Big Blue '56 : 2/21/2012 9:13 pm : link
Boley!
I think when you sign free agents,  
barens : 2/21/2012 10:01 pm : link
you almost have to look at them like rookies. Canty, Bernard, Boley and Rolle didn't start off with a bang, but now they each have a big role on the team(Bernard less, but he's also playing better than his first year).

I expect improvement in his play next year.
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