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BREAKING NEWS: Shooting at Chardon High School in Ohio

Mike in Long Beach : 2/27/2012 9:04 am
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CHARDON, Ohio -- A sheriff's office is confirming a shooting at a northeastern Ohio high school.

Civil deputy Erin Knife with the Geauga County Sheriff's Office says the shooting was reported around 7:30 a.m. Monday at Chardon High School.

Knife says she doesn't have the number of victims yet, and says a single person suspected in the shooting has left the school but is not in custody.

Schools in the area are locked down.

Chardon is about 30 miles east of Cleveland.

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So, they sent a Knife to a gunfight?  
Wuphat : 2/27/2012 9:06 am : link
....
Unreal...  
Saos1n : 2/27/2012 9:07 am : link
So pathetic...

Hoping for the best...
heh  
Greg from LI : 2/27/2012 9:08 am : link
Maybe I'm just an asshole, but like Wu my first reaction was a snort that someone named Knife makes an announcement about a shooting
Sorry, forgot to make it an NFT  
Mike in Long Beach : 2/27/2012 9:08 am : link
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4 students shot....  
Britt in VA : 2/27/2012 9:11 am : link
3 in critical condition, 1 in stable.
Some  
Jon in NYC : 2/27/2012 9:12 am : link
people are just fucked in the head.
1 suspect in custody  
Mike in Long Beach : 2/27/2012 9:14 am : link
1 apparently on the loose
There should be  
Antdog23 : 2/27/2012 9:18 am : link
mandatory psych evaluations these days in school. You never know when that squirrely kid is gonna snap.
AntDog...  
Mike in St. Louis : 2/27/2012 9:31 am : link
where do you see that it was a student who did the shooting, or someone associated with the school?
wow, that's awful  
nedhiggins : 2/27/2012 9:33 am : link
hoping that there are no fatalities
The sad part is  
mac attack : 2/27/2012 9:36 am : link
that all it takes is one or two kids to result in something tradgic like this.

on one of the cleveland news sites  
Number17 : 2/27/2012 9:36 am : link
one of the students said that kids were in the cafeteria having breakfast when a boy stood up and started shooting.
They are know saying  
Jalapeno : 2/27/2012 9:37 am : link
there was only 1 shooter.
Jalapeno  
Mike in Long Beach : 2/27/2012 9:38 am : link
It keeps changing, but I literally just heard 2 shooters again from a local FOX affiliate. Also reporting that the students had specific targets and it wasn't random. Just a report though. Not confirmed.

Also--again, just a report--one of the gunman posted on Twitter last night that people are gonna be hurt tomorrow.
Britt  
Saos1n : 2/27/2012 9:39 am : link
Where are you seeing 3 in critical?
This is the kind of shit that scares me to no end  
BLUATHRT : 2/27/2012 9:40 am : link
as my kids get older. What the fuck is wrong with the world?
MIke  
Jalapeno : 2/27/2012 9:41 am : link
Yeah I can imagine there's a lot of chaos there right now. We will different things for a few hours at least I am sure.
Wow, the last remnants of respect I had for Wup and Greg  
whenwaxattacks : 2/27/2012 9:42 am : link
just went out the window.
and the suspect is in custody  
Number17 : 2/27/2012 9:43 am : link
still investigating if there are other suspects. but they think its just the one boy.
link  
Number17 : 2/27/2012 9:45 am : link
local cleveland site
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1 suspect, yep  
Mike in Long Beach : 2/27/2012 9:46 am : link
according to the sheriff's statement.
I just think back to High School  
mac attack : 2/27/2012 9:47 am : link
and think about all the kids who were outcasts or unpopular and just hoped to God they were not capable of pulling something like this off. More popular kids that either picked on them or bullied them only further pushed these kids to their breaking point. Thats why I would always say Hello to at least try to make them feel better, if that even helped at all.
mac!  
Mike in Long Beach : 2/27/2012 9:47 am : link
I thought we lost you in a case race, lol
mac  
Danny Kanell : 2/27/2012 9:48 am : link
Its crazy. Same thing. I was just thinking back to when I was in high school (early 90s) and there were definitely kids I knew that looking back now, could have easily been candidates for snapping like this. Luckily then, these kids didnt have the internet to make it easier to plot shit, find weapons, meet more kids like themselves, etc. Its a completely different world. Much easier to pretty much do anything with all the available information.
Case RacePart II  
mac attack : 2/27/2012 9:50 am : link
will be this June!
School shooters  
Jalapeno : 2/27/2012 9:53 am : link
should be charged as terrorists. That's what they are.
I must say, I'm crushed that someone  
Wuphat : 2/27/2012 10:00 am : link
I have never met, nor am likely to meet, has lost whatever remnant of respect they may or may not have had for me based on the fact that I voiced a play on words--one that others probably thought of as well--on a football message board about a tragic event that neither he nor I are likely connected to in any way.
Wu  
Jalapeno : 2/27/2012 10:04 am : link
Get over it!
Haha  
Jalapeno : 2/27/2012 10:04 am : link
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whatever, wuphat. there is a time and a place for puns and wordplay  
whenwaxattacks : 2/27/2012 10:06 am : link
a school shooting is one of the few places where it is neither funny nor appropriate.

but carry on.
We're all connected in one way or another.  
Cam in MO : 2/27/2012 10:06 am : link
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As a principal......  
Tom [Giants fan] : 2/27/2012 10:07 am : link
it is this type of stuff that you have to try to look for signs of happening but are 99.9% likely to never see coming.
And apparently you are not the arbiter  
Wuphat : 2/27/2012 10:08 am : link
of when and where the time and place is for puns and what puns are and are not appropriate.

How long is your reign?
Shit  
Wuphat : 2/27/2012 10:08 am : link
I meant "now" not "not".
You're right, a school shooting is not the time or place  
Greg from LI : 2/27/2012 10:09 am : link
Good thing I'm at my desk instead of at the site of a school shooting.
Is it really that hard for you to show a tiny bit of sensitivity here?  
whenwaxattacks : 2/27/2012 10:12 am : link
I just don't get your extreme defensiveness over something like this.
Never know with kids these days  
pjcas18 : 2/27/2012 10:13 am : link
whether it's bullying, suicide, violence, terrorism, or this.

scary for parents. It's not just your kids or even mainly your kids, its other kids you can't control/predict.

Hope for the best for the victims and their families.
It always seems to me...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/27/2012 10:14 am : link
that joking about a situation and chastising those who joke about the situation are equal in terms of inappropriateness.

However, the pious don't seem to see it that way as they go about redirecting the moral compasses.

Heaven forbid we offend the sensabilities of people we know nothing about!
Sensitivity to whom?  
Wuphat : 2/27/2012 10:14 am : link
Are the victims actively reading this thread? Their families?

Probably not.
Sensitivity?  
Greg from LI : 2/27/2012 10:15 am : link
Who am I being insensitive towards? People who have no exposure to these comments?
I didnt know it was Righteous Indignation Monday..  
Davisian : 2/27/2012 10:16 am : link
Did I miss a memo?
Alright, you guys win.  
whenwaxattacks : 2/27/2012 10:16 am : link
I concede.
If somebody...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/27/2012 10:16 am : link
just learned their child was in danger and logged onto BBI, offending their sensbilities is the least of their worries.
I blame the  
Headhunter : 2/27/2012 10:16 am : link
Devil's music, Rock and Roll
You see, wax,  
Wuphat : 2/27/2012 10:17 am : link
had Mile come on here and posted that his cousin or nephew or whatever had just been shot at a school shooting, and linked to the same story, I would not have made the joke out of sensitivity to Mike.

That's not the case.

These kinds of things are always relative to proximity.
Here's the thing  
Greg from LI : 2/27/2012 10:18 am : link
I'm not laughing at kids getting shot. That's a terrible thing. I chuckled at the incongruity of the name of a spokesman. That's it.
But tomorrow is Tube Top Tuesday!  
Number17 : 2/27/2012 10:18 am : link
yay!
to be honest  
pjcas18 : 2/27/2012 10:19 am : link
it's the first thing I noticed too. I had to re-read to make sure I was reading it right.
You do not want to see me in a  
Wuphat : 2/27/2012 10:20 am : link
tube top.

Just trust me on this one.
FatMan in Charlotte  
Jalapeno : 2/27/2012 10:22 am : link
LMAO! Excellent point.

There is at least 1 here that would that very thing.
Let's get this party...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/27/2012 10:24 am : link
started!
See, now if I really wanted to skirt the line  
Wuphat : 2/27/2012 10:25 am : link
I'd post something like:

"I'd let her take a shot"

But I'm not going to do that.
wow  
Eggs55 : 2/27/2012 10:26 am : link
never knew about this one
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at least this round of outrage is on behalf of truly innocent victims  
Greg from LI : 2/27/2012 10:26 am : link
It still staggers me that there was much hand wringing here when that piece of shit Chris Henry bought the farm while trying to assault his girlfriend.
Wuphat's always been  
RB^2 : 2/27/2012 10:46 am : link
a straight shooter.
I aim  
Wuphat : 2/27/2012 10:47 am : link
to please
You really  
RB^2 : 2/27/2012 10:48 am : link
hit the bulls eye with your comments here.
you guys are gunna overdo this again  
Nitro : 2/27/2012 10:48 am : link
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I gave it my best  
Wuphat : 2/27/2012 10:48 am : link
shot
Nitro,  
Wuphat : 2/27/2012 10:49 am : link
we may overshoot the mark, but that's the chance you take.
Nitro's pun  
RB^2 : 2/27/2012 10:50 am : link
on target as well.
The BBI sensitivity police  
RB^2 : 2/27/2012 10:51 am : link
will certainly have us in their sights now.
enough already  
Greg from LI : 2/27/2012 10:51 am : link
There's already been enough sniping on this thread
You guys are just taking a scattershot  
Some Fan : 2/27/2012 10:57 am : link
approach to these puns
Some people are just gun shy  
Wuphat : 2/27/2012 11:02 am : link
and don't want to be seen as going off half-cocked or as a loose cannon.

However, I will bite the bullet, no matter what these sensitive sons of guns have to say. I'm locked and loaded and do not intend to shoot myself in the foot.

While some may see it as shooting from the hip, or jumping the gun, or maybe that we're trigger happy, I would suggest that they not shoot the messenger.
And if anyone else would like to criticize the puns  
Wuphat : 2/27/2012 11:03 am : link
Fire away.
After that post, I have no puns  
Some Fan : 2/27/2012 11:08 am : link
left in the chamber
Yeah, I think I'm out of ammo  
Wuphat : 2/27/2012 11:09 am : link
and shooting blanks.
that's ok  
Greg from LI : 2/27/2012 11:11 am : link
Your previous work was of the highest caliber.
only in Ohio  
RobNYG : 2/27/2012 11:15 am : link
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Well played sir  
Wuphat : 2/27/2012 11:16 am : link
Well played.
only in Ohio?  
Greg from LI : 2/27/2012 11:17 am : link
Why Ohio?
I am glad BBI is online and not in a room  
mjt832 : 2/27/2012 11:17 am : link
who knows what kinda damage would occur.


I am not going to take a shot at a pun.
Greg  
Wuphat : 2/27/2012 11:18 am : link
Kent State
Wuphat  
RB^2 : 2/27/2012 11:26 am : link
really fired off his load and emptied the clip on that one. We're getting some real rapid fire responses here.
Kent State?  
Greg from LI : 2/27/2012 11:49 am : link
There have been a few other incidents at schools outside of Ohio since 1970, I'd wager.
Yes, there have been, but  
Wuphat : 2/27/2012 11:53 am : link
Rob was calling back to that, that's all.

If it happened in Austin, he'd have been able to do the same thing.
eh  
Greg from LI : 2/27/2012 11:56 am : link
Only in Ohio would only work if an infantry platoon started clearing the classrooms with gunfire.
Bunch of amateurs here....  
Britt in VA : 2/27/2012 11:56 am : link
I thought for sure there'd be a NFT: "My child was just shot at school, what should I do? thread" by now.

In all seriousness, though. Any updates on the wounded?
Nothing new that I've seen  
Greg from LI : 2/27/2012 11:57 am : link
5 wounded, 3 critical
Sad.  
Britt in VA : 2/27/2012 11:59 am : link
Hope they all pull through.
This thread has been more fun than a double barrel full of monkeys.  
shepherdsam : 2/27/2012 12:03 pm : link
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(╯□)╯︵ ┻━┻  
Cam in MO : 2/27/2012 12:17 pm : link
!!!!



It was just reported that one of the students  
Canton : 2/27/2012 12:37 pm : link
has died at the hospital. 2 others of the remaining 4 are in critical condition.
Awful.  
Britt in VA : 2/27/2012 12:42 pm : link
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CNN reporting that the shooter had specific targets  
whenwaxattacks : 2/27/2012 12:43 pm : link
and wasn't shooting randomly.
1 dead.  
Mike in Long Beach : 2/27/2012 1:04 pm : link

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This is what the shooter posted on Twitter last night  
whenwaxattacks : 2/27/2012 1:05 pm : link


according to kids from the school.
Pardon the oversized photo  
whenwaxattacks : 2/27/2012 1:08 pm : link
Eerily similar to the VT shooter's pictures.
Also similar toi the "trenchcoat mafia"  
Some Fan : 2/27/2012 1:09 pm : link
of Colombine
Just by  
yankfan : 2/27/2012 1:41 pm : link
looking at his surroundings, I'd say the kid was in some pretty dreary location. Bare walls, metal frame institutional style bed......very small room. Almost like he was in a dormitory for troubled youth.

JMHO.
Where did you see his surroundings?  
Cam in MO : 2/27/2012 1:49 pm : link
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One of the boy victims has died  
Number17 : 2/27/2012 1:51 pm : link
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Sad.  
Andy in Halifax : 2/27/2012 1:51 pm : link
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Cam,  
Wuphat : 2/27/2012 1:54 pm : link
pretty sure he's drawing some conclusions based on the pictures above.

Perhaps this is yankfan?

Ahhh...Thanks,  
Cam in MO : 2/27/2012 1:56 pm : link
some pics are blocked at work, so I can't even tell there are supposed to be pictures....


yeah, I can't see the picture either  
Greg from LI : 2/27/2012 1:57 pm : link
Apparently, it's always the nice quiet kids. From CNN:

Quote:
[Updated 1:19 p.m. ET] A student at Chardon High School said that T.J. Lane, the suspect in Monday's shooting, "was a nice guy" who he never suspected would shoot anyone.

He just came from a really broken down home and he was living with his grandparents," Evan Erasmus, a senior at the school told CNN. "He was more of a quiet type of kid. He was really nice, though, if you did talk to him.

Erasmus said that Lane and some of the victims "used to be friends" but more in middle school and early high school.

He was one of the nicest kids there," Erasmus said. "It was really shocking that it was him.

Erasmus told CNN that he believed T.J. Lane was either a sophomore or junior at the school.

He said that Lane was sitting about a table away from some of the victims.

Erasmus said he heard the victims "were all sitting there and then he just stood up and thats when it all started."

Meanwhile, he and the other students in a nearby classroom, "turned the lights off and we headed into a corner" after the shooting.
Gotch  
Wuphat : 2/27/2012 1:59 pm : link
There's pics of a kid in a green trench coat in a sparse room holding up what looks like a knife, then 2 guns, then a sign dated yesterday.
Ah...are those the supposed twitter pictures?  
Cam in MO : 2/27/2012 2:00 pm : link
...
That's be them  
Wuphat : 2/27/2012 2:02 pm : link
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article identifies him as TJ Lane  
Number17 : 2/27/2012 2:02 pm : link
and an "at risk" student that normally takes a bus to another school.

btw 5 victims, not 4


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cam, those are the pictures he posted on twitter last night  
whenwaxattacks : 2/27/2012 2:03 pm : link
allegedly, there were also written threats made through facebook or twitter...
sounds very social media savvy  
Nitro : 2/27/2012 2:03 pm : link
Mike in Long Beach please take notes.
how the heck does a 17 yr old kid  
Number17 : 2/27/2012 2:12 pm : link
get pistols?

I would think it's very easy for anyone who has a mind  
Wuphat : 2/27/2012 2:14 pm : link
to it to get their hands on just about anything be it guns, explosives, drugs, or whatever.

Whats the reference to  
Number17 : 2/27/2012 2:16 pm : link
"Omegle" on the sign he's holding up?

Yeah, it is pretty easy to get  
Cam in MO : 2/27/2012 2:17 pm : link
Almost any type of weapon if you don't mind that it fell off a truck.

Especially if you are near a large city like Cleveland.
It's an online chat  
Wuphat : 2/27/2012 2:18 pm : link
application.


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omegle is like chat roulette  
whenwaxattacks : 2/27/2012 2:18 pm : link
links you up to another random user on the site for conversations.

never understood the appeal of either. chat roulette was apparently notorious for dudes showing their junk.
looks like he lived in the attic  
Number17 : 2/27/2012 2:23 pm : link
given that site that was noted, it looks like alot of 'dark loner' bullied outcast stuff is going to come out of the investigation.



Hey Mike  
Antdog23 : 2/27/2012 3:04 pm : link
Quote:
AntDog...
Mike in St. Louis : 9:31 am
where do you see that it was a student who did the shooting, or someone associated with the school?


9 times out of 10 buddy... 9 times out of 10....
Said to say  
Mike in Long Beach : 2/28/2012 9:52 am : link
A second child has died.
link.  
Mike in Long Beach : 2/28/2012 9:53 am : link
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Crap  
Mike in Long Beach : 2/28/2012 9:53 am : link
wrong link:
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Third student has died.  
Britt in VA : 2/28/2012 3:24 pm : link
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Jesus  
Mike in Long Beach : 2/28/2012 3:32 pm : link
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According to the lawyer for the shooter's family...  
Britt in VA : 2/28/2012 3:33 pm : link
The suspect is "scared, confused, and extremely remorseful".
well, you can 100% predict the response  
Number17 : 2/28/2012 3:35 pm : link
to the lawyers characterization of the shooter.
That assistant...  
Chris in Philly : 2/28/2012 3:35 pm : link
football coach has balls of fucking iron.
He's a hero.  
Britt in VA : 2/28/2012 3:37 pm : link
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