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mort christenson : 3/21/2012 12:45 pm
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They should have to give back their Lombardi trophy  
mfsd : 3/21/2012 1:41 pm : link
and the records books should show no champion that year
Does  
NJGiantFan84 : 3/21/2012 1:44 pm : link
anybody think that the bounty system was okay? I have a friend, an Eagle fan, who is outraged by the punishment and thinks there is nothing wrong with it and that every team does it.
nj - that's because he's an eagles fan.  
whenwaxattacks : 3/21/2012 1:45 pm : link
duh.
So... do we move up one slot in selecting a player...  
M.S. : 3/21/2012 1:47 pm : link
...in 2nd round this April?
No,  
Hades07 : 3/21/2012 1:53 pm : link
the nfl awarded that pick to the eagles
MS  
Wuphat : 3/21/2012 1:54 pm : link
Sort of.

Every pick after the Saints 2nd rounder will now be one pick sooner than it was yesterday.

So, for the 2nd round there will be 31 rather than 32 picks.
Hate or love Goodell,  
M1KEM1KEM1KE : 3/21/2012 1:55 pm : link
the man is cleaning up the game and I would NOT mess with him. This punishment is light as far as I'm concerned
This taints their SB in my view  
Some Fan : 3/21/2012 1:57 pm : link
Vikings beat them but for the late and dirty hits on Favre that year.
Wow - deliberately lied to the NFL?  
section125 : 3/21/2012 1:58 pm : link
Mr. Benson should fire them all, period. The GM lied to Mr. Benson also - he should be fired.
If this was anywhere else, it would be dismissals and jail time.
Spags may have just gotten lucky. Wonder if he'll hire a DC?
After reading that detailled press release,  
cosmicj : 3/21/2012 1:59 pm : link
I'm actually surprised Payton wasn't handed an even more severe punishment. Note that Loomis, who doesn't look to have been fully aware of what was happening, received half of Payton's suspension.

The press release is compelling.
so does Spags  
Matt in SGS : 3/21/2012 2:01 pm : link
become the interim coach this year?
Giants' prospects for a repeat  
Mark C : 3/21/2012 2:02 pm : link
just got better. I like this.
Can not  
PaulN : 3/21/2012 2:02 pm : link
Help but to be thrilled. I know its a lot about how mad I was to see Peyton run up the score on us, but I can not stand the guy now, and I have grown to really dislike the Saints now, so today I am thrilled. I just would love to see us kick thier asses next season and start to turn the tables on them. I have also always disliked Williams, just the fact that he was a Buddy Ryan deciple, is a huge factor in disliking him. I really can not stand the entire Ryan family, and I am thrilled to see that they are starting to get exposed, at least thier ways are getting exposed, and if you don't think the same crap is not going on with the Jets and Cowboys, your nuts, they are, that is the way these clowns are.
Wow...  
prdave73 : 3/21/2012 2:05 pm : link
Thats pretty steep.. Didnt expect that severe. Oh well..
Good  
Model4001 : 3/21/2012 2:07 pm : link
F this dirty-ass team.
Favre was hit late and dirty so many times in that NFCC game  
Some Fan : 3/21/2012 2:08 pm : link
that it baffled me then and baffles me even more now regarding why the officials did not call roughing. That should be the next investigation, i.e., the significant officiating incompetence.

If Favre won that game, I think he would have then won the SB and ended his career on a much higher note. I think Favre and the Vikings got screwed and the Saints should be stripped of their SB win like in the Black Sox scandal.
PaulN...that is a valid point on the Ryans except that as to the  
Some Fan : 3/21/2012 2:11 pm : link
Cowboys, they do not come off as a dirty team to me the past couple of years. I think their offensive line has been dirty on occasion but not the defense.
Lupica just talking about Brees and a potential divorce  
glowrider : 3/21/2012 2:12 pm : link
Smart man - it has to be a consideration, despite his love affair with the city.
Brees should tell them to trade him. The fisting has just started  
Rich Houston-NYG-WR-1971 : 3/21/2012 2:24 pm : link
wait until player suspensions. This Saints team is going to get devastated.

i saw on the NOLA boards fans are in disbelief.
Payton was really stupid in the way  
ColHowPepper : 3/21/2012 2:28 pm : link
he handled the NFL on this:

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8. Coach Vitt said one of his primary roles was to monitor the activity of Coach Williams. This was based on the direction of Coach Payton, who apparently had less than full confidence in Coach Williams. Despite Coach Vitt’s knowledge of the bounty program, his understanding of the terms “knock-out” and “cart-off,” his witnessing Coach Williams handing out envelopes that he believed to contain cash, and his acknowledgement that the defensive meeting preceding the 2010 NFC Championship Game may have “got out of hand” with respect to Brett Favre, Coach Vitt claimed he never advised either Coach Payton or General Manager Mickey Loomis of the “pay-for-performance/bounty” program.
10. When interviewed in 2012, Sean Payton claimed to be entirely unaware of the program, a claim contradicted by others. Further, prior to the Saints’ opening game in 2011, Coach Payton received an email from a close associate that stated in part, “PS Greg Williams put me down for $5000 on Rogers (sic).” When shown the email during the course of the investigation, Coach Payton stated that it referred to a “bounty” on Green Bay quarterback Aaron Rodgers.

11. In early 2010, Mr. Loomis advised Coach Payton that the league office was investigating allegations concerning a bounty program. Coach Payton said that he met with his top two defensive assistants, Coach Williams and Coach Vitt, in advance of the interview with league investigators and told them, “Let’s make sure our ducks are in a row.” Remarkably, Coach Payton claimed that he never inquired of Coach Williams and Coach Vitt as to what happened in the interviews, never asked them if a “pay-for-performance” or bounty program was in fact in place, and never gave any instructions to discontinue such a program.


It would appear that some of the e-mails the NFL got hold of had Loomis or the owner communicating with him on the bounty program, yet Payton claimed a "dunno" in 2012, when there was hard evidence to show he was lying?

Hence the harshness of his suspension.

Vitt evidently had a big role in this.
Goodell  
Canton : 3/21/2012 2:32 pm : link
Vacchiano

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Goodell has asked union head DeMaurice Smith recommendation for player discipline.
They should have done more to the Saints  
KWALL : 3/21/2012 2:38 pm : link
That Minnesota game was full of dirty cheap shots. The coaches were in on it and so was the front office. They should have grabbed a few first round picks.
Cam Newton & Arron Rodgers  
Headhunter : 3/21/2012 2:45 pm : link
were targeted
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Aaron Rodgers  
Headhunter : 3/21/2012 2:46 pm : link
.
Brees is "speechless' and wants an "explanation"  
Canton : 3/21/2012 2:48 pm : link
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I'm sure that if NO had its first rounder this year, that would have  
yatqb : 3/21/2012 2:56 pm : link
been the penalty, rather than the two #2s. But I'd have preferred a 2 this year and a 1 next year. Otherwise, good job by Goodell.
Brees and his goiter can go screw.  
B in ALB : 3/21/2012 2:57 pm : link
Scum franchise.
Brees twits  
cosmicj : 3/21/2012 2:59 pm : link
"“I am speechless,” Brees wrote. “Sean Payton is a great man, coach, and mentor. The best there is. I need to hear an explanation for this punishment.”

More evidence why athletes shouldn't have access to Twitter. I seriously hope the Giants institute a club policy banning twitter accounts for all employees.
Brees wants an explanation?  
j_rud : 3/21/2012 3:02 pm : link
Was his head inserted directly into his ass for the last 2 months?
Not surprising  
Dave in Hoboken : 3/21/2012 3:09 pm : link
Brees is a POS. The fact that his act fools alot of people is alarming.
Brees really looks like a douche  
SLIM : 3/21/2012 3:15 pm : link
with the explanation garbage. That's two scandals for Payton in addition to be known to run up the score also.
Explanation???  
BillKo : 3/21/2012 3:18 pm : link
Brees better quit, before he says something he regrets.

Nice job, Goodell. Perfect punishment.

Mort, nice job too with those two posts back to back!!! Boom/boom!!!
The one thing I will never understand  
Adam XLII : 3/21/2012 3:21 pm : link
is the "no snitching" mentality in culture. I mean, WTF? Such a strange phenomenon.
Brees did a Nyquil commercial shoot yesterday.  
j_rud : 3/21/2012 3:21 pm : link
462 takes, and no one told him to not actually drink it.
Either that,  
j_rud : 3/21/2012 3:22 pm : link
or Gregg Williams put a bounty on his common sense last season.
....  
yankees78 : 3/21/2012 3:27 pm : link
Quote:
@QBKILLA BINGO! RT @elnicastro: Shockey..? RT @QBKILLA: Just Heard Who The Snitch Was
I just love this commissioner  
Bake54 : 3/21/2012 3:39 pm : link
He has got it exactly right. Goodell needs to change the culture in the league and it's going to happen. Good for him. Flush the old breed out of the league.
Couldn't  
bluesince56 : 3/21/2012 4:25 pm : link
Have happened to a better team or HC. I'm just glad Eli wasn't injured when they played the Saints.
Fuck the consensus on Brees  
BigBlueinSoFl : 3/21/2012 4:27 pm : link
he is a class A douchebag of the highest level.
Do I remember correctly that since this involves Jeremy Shockey,  
mfjmfj : 3/21/2012 4:46 pm : link
Vilma, and the Saints second round pick that now we get their first round pick?
Goodell has spoken  
grhein8008 : 3/21/2012 4:50 pm : link
mfj  
BigBlueinSoFl : 3/21/2012 4:51 pm : link
I already did that joke.
Players from that Defense on other teams feeling the repercussions..  
Canton : 3/21/2012 5:04 pm : link
from PFT

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On same day bounty punishment comes down, Vikings cut DT Remi Ayodele, member of 2009 Saints defense
bigblue  
mfjmfj : 3/21/2012 5:32 pm : link
sorry didnt see it. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
Saints lose second round pick  
jeff57 : 3/21/2012 5:55 pm : link
They don't have a first or a second. Means Giants will be picking at 63 instead of 64.
Fuck em  
Geomon : 3/21/2012 7:19 pm : link
They deserve worse.
This is about what I expected  
Life Long Giants Fan : 3/21/2012 7:59 pm : link
Good news.
mfj  
Giantfan in skinland : 3/21/2012 8:05 pm : link
don't feel too bad...

People have been making that joke (again) for weeks and it didn't stop Bigblue either.
Looking at this thread  
mrvax : 3/21/2012 8:38 pm : link
and the Shockey/rat thread, I agree that all former and present NFL players must have every "tweet" cleared by a high school graduate before it posts.
All this stuff is fine and dandy  
ghost718 : 3/21/2012 8:41 pm : link
but what I really want to do is play these guys again.

We can sign Jacobs the week prior to have him do his dance on the Saints emblem.
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