and the records books should show no champion that year
anybody think that the bounty system was okay? I have a friend, an Eagle fan, who is outraged by the punishment and thinks there is nothing wrong with it and that every team does it.
...in 2nd round this April?
the nfl awarded that pick to the eagles
Every pick after the Saints 2nd rounder will now be one pick sooner than it was yesterday.
So, for the 2nd round there will be 31 rather than 32 picks.
the man is cleaning up the game and I would NOT mess with him. This punishment is light as far as I'm concerned
Vikings beat them but for the late and dirty hits on Favre that year.
Mr. Benson should fire them all, period. The GM lied to Mr. Benson also - he should be fired.
If this was anywhere else, it would be dismissals and jail time.
Spags may have just gotten lucky. Wonder if he'll hire a DC?
I'm actually surprised Payton wasn't handed an even more severe punishment. Note that Loomis, who doesn't look to have been fully aware of what was happening, received half of Payton's suspension.
The press release is compelling.
become the interim coach this year?
just got better. I like this.
Help but to be thrilled. I know its a lot about how mad I was to see Peyton run up the score on us, but I can not stand the guy now, and I have grown to really dislike the Saints now, so today I am thrilled. I just would love to see us kick thier asses next season and start to turn the tables on them. I have also always disliked Williams, just the fact that he was a Buddy Ryan deciple, is a huge factor in disliking him. I really can not stand the entire Ryan family, and I am thrilled to see that they are starting to get exposed, at least thier ways are getting exposed, and if you don't think the same crap is not going on with the Jets and Cowboys, your nuts, they are, that is the way these clowns are.
Thats pretty steep.. Didnt expect that severe. Oh well..
that it baffled me then and baffles me even more now regarding why the officials did not call roughing. That should be the next investigation, i.e., the significant officiating incompetence.
If Favre won that game, I think he would have then won the SB and ended his career on a much higher note. I think Favre and the Vikings got screwed and the Saints should be stripped of their SB win like in the Black Sox scandal.
Cowboys, they do not come off as a dirty team to me the past couple of years. I think their offensive line has been dirty on occasion but not the defense.
Smart man - it has to be a consideration, despite his love affair with the city.
wait until player suspensions. This Saints team is going to get devastated.
i saw on the NOLA boards fans are in disbelief.
he handled the NFL on this:
|8. Coach Vitt said one of his primary roles was to monitor the activity of Coach Williams. This was based on the direction of Coach Payton, who apparently had less than full confidence in Coach Williams. Despite Coach Vitt’s knowledge of the bounty program, his understanding of the terms “knock-out” and “cart-off,” his witnessing Coach Williams handing out envelopes that he believed to contain cash, and his acknowledgement that the defensive meeting preceding the 2010 NFC Championship Game may have “got out of hand” with respect to Brett Favre, Coach Vitt claimed he never advised either Coach Payton or General Manager Mickey Loomis of the “pay-for-performance/bounty” program.
10. When interviewed in 2012, Sean Payton claimed to be entirely unaware of the program, a claim contradicted by others. Further, prior to the Saints’ opening game in 2011, Coach Payton received an email from a close associate that stated in part, “PS Greg Williams put me down for $5000 on Rogers (sic).” When shown the email during the course of the investigation, Coach Payton stated that it referred to a “bounty” on Green Bay quarterback Aaron Rodgers.
11. In early 2010, Mr. Loomis advised Coach Payton that the league office was investigating allegations concerning a bounty program. Coach Payton said that he met with his top two defensive assistants, Coach Williams and Coach Vitt, in advance of the interview with league investigators and told them, “Let’s make sure our ducks are in a row.” Remarkably, Coach Payton claimed that he never inquired of Coach Williams and Coach Vitt as to what happened in the interviews, never asked them if a “pay-for-performance” or bounty program was in fact in place, and never gave any instructions to discontinue such a program.
It would appear that some of the e-mails the NFL got hold of had Loomis or the owner communicating with him on the bounty program, yet Payton claimed a "dunno" in 2012, when there was hard evidence to show he was lying?
Hence the harshness of his suspension.
Vitt evidently had a big role in this.
|Goodell has asked union head DeMaurice Smith recommendation for player discipline.
That Minnesota game was full of dirty cheap shots. The coaches were in on it and so was the front office. They should have grabbed a few first round picks.
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been the penalty, rather than the two #2s. But I'd have preferred a 2 this year and a 1 next year. Otherwise, good job by Goodell.
"“I am speechless,” Brees wrote. “Sean Payton is a great man, coach, and mentor. The best there is. I need to hear an explanation for this punishment.”
More evidence why athletes shouldn't have access to Twitter. I seriously hope the Giants institute a club policy banning twitter accounts for all employees.
Was his head inserted directly into his ass for the last 2 months?
Brees is a POS. The fact that his act fools alot of people is alarming.
with the explanation garbage. That's two scandals for Payton in addition to be known to run up the score also.
Brees better quit, before he says something he regrets.
Nice job, Goodell. Perfect punishment.
Mort, nice job too with those two posts back to back!!! Boom/boom!!!
is the "no snitching" mentality in culture. I mean, WTF? Such a strange phenomenon.
462 takes, and no one told him to not actually drink it.
or Gregg Williams put a bounty on his common sense last season.
|@QBKILLA BINGO! RT @elnicastro: Shockey..? RT @QBKILLA: Just Heard Who The Snitch Was
He has got it exactly right. Goodell needs to change the culture in the league and it's going to happen. Good for him. Flush the old breed out of the league.
Have happened to a better team or HC. I'm just glad Eli wasn't injured when they played the Saints.
he is a class A douchebag of the highest level.
Vilma, and the Saints second round pick that now we get their first round pick?
|On same day bounty punishment comes down, Vikings cut DT Remi Ayodele, member of 2009 Saints defense
sorry didnt see it. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
They don't have a first or a second. Means Giants will be picking at 63 instead of 64.
don't feel too bad...
People have been making that joke (again) for weeks and it didn't stop Bigblue either.
and the Shockey/rat thread, I agree that all former and present NFL players must have every "tweet" cleared by a high school graduate before it posts.
but what I really want to do is play these guys again.
We can sign Jacobs the week prior to have him do his dance on the Saints emblem.