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mort christenson : 3/21/2012 12:45 pm
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that's what gets lost in the suspension  
lalalalala : 3/21/2012 1:12 pm : link

it's also in essence a gigantic fine
Payton  
Headhunter : 3/21/2012 1:12 pm : link
back to popping Vicodan
I said it before and I'll say it again  
glowrider : 3/21/2012 1:13 pm : link
This Bountygate may really turn into a Dolphins bounty with Drew Brees.

The contract was taking too long and then this popped up...then the Peyton Manning talks...No way would I want to negotiate with a team with those things out there.

New Orleans may end up losing the franchise over this.
Those dirty mother effers....  
Britt in VA : 3/21/2012 1:14 pm : link
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...Payments also were made for plays on which opposing players were injured. In addition, specific players were sometimes targeted. The investigation showed bounties being placed on four quarterbacks of opposing teams Brett Favre, Cam Newton, Aaron Rodgers, and Kurt Warner. Multiple sources have confirmed that several players pledged funds toward bounties on specific opposing players, with defensive captain Jonathan Vilma offering $10,000 to any player who knocked Brett Favre out of the NFC Championship Game in 2010.

3. Coach Williams acknowledged that he designed and implemented the program with the assistance of certain defensive players. He said that he did so after being told by Saints Head Coach Sean Payton that his assignment was to make the defense nasty. Coach Williams described his role as overseeing record keeping, defining payout amounts, deciding on who received payouts, and distributing envelopes with cash to players who earned rewards.

4. In each of the 2009-2011 seasons, the Saints were one of the top five teams in the league in roughing the passer penalties. In 2009 and 2011, the Saints were also in the top five teams in unnecessary roughness penalties; in 2010, the Saints ranked sixth in the category. In the January 16, 2010 divisional playoff game against the Arizona Cardinals, Saints defensive players were assessed $15,000 in fines for fouls committed against opposing players. The following week, in the NFC Championship Game against the Minnesota Vikings, Saints defensive players were assessed $30,000 in fines for four separate illegal hits, several of which were directed against quarterback Brett Favre.
Haha  
BigBlueBuff : 3/21/2012 1:15 pm : link
Awesome. I wonder if he's still sporting that shit-eating grin this morning?
nice to know you Vilma  
lalalalala : 3/21/2012 1:16 pm : link

he's next. being named directly in that means he's doomed
This has honsetly  
bELIeve92 : 3/21/2012 1:16 pm : link
been the best football season/offseason I can ever remember. This shit seems like its scripted
They  
DanMetroMan : 3/21/2012 1:17 pm : link
arent done! lol

Evan Silva ‏ @evansilva

ESPN's Chris Mortensen confirms more punishment coming for #Saints roster: "We haven't even gotten to the players' penalties yet."
i just tried to read two saints forums: both had server overload  
whenwaxattacks : 3/21/2012 1:17 pm : link
awesome.
Brees can't go anywhere  
lalalalala : 3/21/2012 1:17 pm : link

unless he just refuses to show up to work
Does Pete Carmichael get the HC gig  
jeff57 : 3/21/2012 1:20 pm : link
?
Someone needs to ask Daniels  
RobCarpenter : 3/21/2012 1:22 pm : link
How much $$ he got for holding onto Manning's head after a play. As in, the injury that started the neck problems.

This is great...  
bradshaw44 : 3/21/2012 1:23 pm : link
The league just crushed the NYGs cryptonite ha ha. Couldn't have asked for anything more.
Why isnt Payton simply fired?  
Number17 : 3/21/2012 1:25 pm : link
serious question.

If he was an employee anywhere else, he would be fired for lying to his employer, hiding illegal payments over the course of several years.

A suspension seems pretty lame to me.

Shocked, amazed, and pleased  
Phil in Joisey : 3/21/2012 1:26 pm : link
that the league got this one right.
its up to the owner to fire him  
Peter from CT : 3/21/2012 1:28 pm : link
the league can't
Brees played under the tag once, and just said about a week  
glowrider : 3/21/2012 1:28 pm : link
ago what he really thinks about playing under the tag (he's in NO bc SD tagged him, more or less). I'm sure he's not a happy camper and NO may be in a dealing mood at the moment.
Number 17  
Wuphat : 3/21/2012 1:28 pm : link
The suspension is handed down by the league.

Firing him would have to come from the Saints, and the suspension does not preclude them from doing so.

They stood by him before sanctions were imposed, but there's nothing to stop them from cutting bait on him now. They may still do that.
These two coaches or scumbags  
dune69 : 3/21/2012 1:28 pm : link
should get a lifetime ban. They should not be permitted to make one more dollar from the NFL.
bigblueinsofl  
Dave M : 3/21/2012 1:32 pm : link
lol....that one went under the radar
glow  
lalalalala : 3/21/2012 1:33 pm : link

but there's no limit to how many times a player can be tagged, no? other than the % increase becoming a detriment at some point.

they can hold him for at least the near/mid term future if they so desire.
Well, then the NFL should make him ineligible  
Number17 : 3/21/2012 1:34 pm : link
1 year suspension for a string of illegal activities (essentially cash for assault) borders on silly.

Next up: The IRS looks into unreported income

so what's not clear from all of this  
nyynyg : 3/21/2012 1:36 pm : link
is Spags allowed to reinstitute the bounty program with the Saints this year?
Saints were dirty players..my other thoughts  
Rich Houston-NYG-WR-1971 : 3/21/2012 1:37 pm : link
punishment is just..but the players involved need serious penalties assigned.
-Drew Brees ...I wonder if he signs a contract or demands a trade to dolphins. I don't think he wants to be associated with this fallout

--The players involved need serious punishment. If the coach gets a year ban..what do individual players get?

--i really would like the giants to face saints in 1st game now.

They can certainly tag him again and again  
glowrider : 3/21/2012 1:37 pm : link
but it's rare for a team to do that. They either extend the player or may agree that they'll let him look elsewhere. Not saying he's leaving, but there's a lot of really good reasons to consider a move.

Either way, shitty move to have to franchise Drew Brees. They should have given him the bank along with a contract for life.
If ownership really wanted them to stop...  
Hades07 : 3/21/2012 1:38 pm : link
...Loomis and Payton should both be fired. Disregarding a direct instruction from the owner that costs the club money, bad press and draft picks; how does that not get you fired?
i'm excited for vilma's penalty  
whenwaxattacks : 3/21/2012 1:39 pm : link
if payton got a year, vilma could be banned for as long if not longer.
I thought there'd be a cap reduction  
glowrider : 3/21/2012 1:40 pm : link
.
No Redskins penalties?  
RinR : 3/21/2012 1:41 pm : link
Fine or loss of pick(s)?
They should have to give back their Lombardi trophy  
mfsd : 3/21/2012 1:41 pm : link
and the records books should show no champion that year
Does  
NJGiantFan84 : 3/21/2012 1:44 pm : link
anybody think that the bounty system was okay? I have a friend, an Eagle fan, who is outraged by the punishment and thinks there is nothing wrong with it and that every team does it.
nj - that's because he's an eagles fan.  
whenwaxattacks : 3/21/2012 1:45 pm : link
duh.
So... do we move up one slot in selecting a player...  
M.S. : 3/21/2012 1:47 pm : link
...in 2nd round this April?
No,  
Hades07 : 3/21/2012 1:53 pm : link
the nfl awarded that pick to the eagles
MS  
Wuphat : 3/21/2012 1:54 pm : link
Sort of.

Every pick after the Saints 2nd rounder will now be one pick sooner than it was yesterday.

So, for the 2nd round there will be 31 rather than 32 picks.
Hate or love Goodell,  
M1KEM1KEM1KE : 3/21/2012 1:55 pm : link
the man is cleaning up the game and I would NOT mess with him. This punishment is light as far as I'm concerned
This taints their SB in my view  
Some Fan : 3/21/2012 1:57 pm : link
Vikings beat them but for the late and dirty hits on Favre that year.
Wow - deliberately lied to the NFL?  
section125 : 3/21/2012 1:58 pm : link
Mr. Benson should fire them all, period. The GM lied to Mr. Benson also - he should be fired.
If this was anywhere else, it would be dismissals and jail time.
Spags may have just gotten lucky. Wonder if he'll hire a DC?
After reading that detailled press release,  
cosmicj : 3/21/2012 1:59 pm : link
I'm actually surprised Payton wasn't handed an even more severe punishment. Note that Loomis, who doesn't look to have been fully aware of what was happening, received half of Payton's suspension.

The press release is compelling.
so does Spags  
Matt in SGS : 3/21/2012 2:01 pm : link
become the interim coach this year?
Giants' prospects for a repeat  
Mark C : 3/21/2012 2:02 pm : link
just got better. I like this.
Can not  
PaulN : 3/21/2012 2:02 pm : link
Help but to be thrilled. I know its a lot about how mad I was to see Peyton run up the score on us, but I can not stand the guy now, and I have grown to really dislike the Saints now, so today I am thrilled. I just would love to see us kick thier asses next season and start to turn the tables on them. I have also always disliked Williams, just the fact that he was a Buddy Ryan deciple, is a huge factor in disliking him. I really can not stand the entire Ryan family, and I am thrilled to see that they are starting to get exposed, at least thier ways are getting exposed, and if you don't think the same crap is not going on with the Jets and Cowboys, your nuts, they are, that is the way these clowns are.
Wow...  
prdave73 : 3/21/2012 2:05 pm : link
Thats pretty steep.. Didnt expect that severe. Oh well..
Good  
Model4001 : 3/21/2012 2:07 pm : link
F this dirty-ass team.
Favre was hit late and dirty so many times in that NFCC game  
Some Fan : 3/21/2012 2:08 pm : link
that it baffled me then and baffles me even more now regarding why the officials did not call roughing. That should be the next investigation, i.e., the significant officiating incompetence.

If Favre won that game, I think he would have then won the SB and ended his career on a much higher note. I think Favre and the Vikings got screwed and the Saints should be stripped of their SB win like in the Black Sox scandal.
PaulN...that is a valid point on the Ryans except that as to the  
Some Fan : 3/21/2012 2:11 pm : link
Cowboys, they do not come off as a dirty team to me the past couple of years. I think their offensive line has been dirty on occasion but not the defense.
Lupica just talking about Brees and a potential divorce  
glowrider : 3/21/2012 2:12 pm : link
Smart man - it has to be a consideration, despite his love affair with the city.
Brees should tell them to trade him. The fisting has just started  
Rich Houston-NYG-WR-1971 : 3/21/2012 2:24 pm : link
wait until player suspensions. This Saints team is going to get devastated.

i saw on the NOLA boards fans are in disbelief.
Payton was really stupid in the way  
ColHowPepper : 3/21/2012 2:28 pm : link
he handled the NFL on this:

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8. Coach Vitt said one of his primary roles was to monitor the activity of Coach Williams. This was based on the direction of Coach Payton, who apparently had less than full confidence in Coach Williams. Despite Coach Vitts knowledge of the bounty program, his understanding of the terms knock-out and cart-off, his witnessing Coach Williams handing out envelopes that he believed to contain cash, and his acknowledgement that the defensive meeting preceding the 2010 NFC Championship Game may have got out of hand with respect to Brett Favre, Coach Vitt claimed he never advised either Coach Payton or General Manager Mickey Loomis of the pay-for-performance/bounty program.
10. When interviewed in 2012, Sean Payton claimed to be entirely unaware of the program, a claim contradicted by others. Further, prior to the Saints opening game in 2011, Coach Payton received an email from a close associate that stated in part, PS Greg Williams put me down for $5000 on Rogers (sic). When shown the email during the course of the investigation, Coach Payton stated that it referred to a bounty on Green Bay quarterback Aaron Rodgers.

11. In early 2010, Mr. Loomis advised Coach Payton that the league office was investigating allegations concerning a bounty program. Coach Payton said that he met with his top two defensive assistants, Coach Williams and Coach Vitt, in advance of the interview with league investigators and told them, Lets make sure our ducks are in a row. Remarkably, Coach Payton claimed that he never inquired of Coach Williams and Coach Vitt as to what happened in the interviews, never asked them if a pay-for-performance or bounty program was in fact in place, and never gave any instructions to discontinue such a program.


It would appear that some of the e-mails the NFL got hold of had Loomis or the owner communicating with him on the bounty program, yet Payton claimed a "dunno" in 2012, when there was hard evidence to show he was lying?

Hence the harshness of his suspension.

Vitt evidently had a big role in this.
Goodell  
Canton : 3/21/2012 2:32 pm : link
Vacchiano

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Goodell has asked union head DeMaurice Smith recommendation for player discipline.
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