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The Ultimate Sleeper Pick. Jonas Gray, RB, Notre Dame.

Klaatu : 4/9/2012 11:47 am
Number 25 in your programs, Number 1 in your hearts.

5-10, 223, averaging 6.9 ypc before he got hurt.



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04/04/2012 - Jonas Gray didn't show what he was truly capable of at Notre Dame until his last season. The running back emerged as a power runner as a senior, amassing 791 yards with 12 touchdowns on 114 carries in 11 games. A torn anterior cruciate ligament in his right knee in his final home game ended Gray's breakout season, but it started him on a path to possibly play in the NFL.

Gray took part in some of Notre Dame's Pro Day activities on Tuesday, just five months removed from surgery. "It's crazy," Gray said of being talked about as any where from a third-round to fifth-round pick. "It's certainly a blessing. I just make sure I'm doing everything I can to get back to where I was before." Gray pushed his bench press number from 20 at the combine to 22 at Pro Day. He ran and cut during passing drills, but he didn't take part in other running or agility drills. "I felt like I could do a little bit more," said Gray, who admitted he has been told to hold back while he continues to recover from surgery.

"It was all about patience," Gray added about returning from the injury. "A lot of times, I maybe felt a little over confident, but my doctors and physical therapist gave me great advice. I started to feel really good in about three and half months. When I came back from the combine, that's when I started to do a lot more running stuff, straight ahead speed stuff. I knew at this point I'd be pretty far ahead." - Tony Krausz, The Journal Gazette.


Just about every draft guru has him as a late-round/UDFA pick (so I don't know where the 3rd to 5th round talk is coming from). If he doesn't get drafted, I hope he's the first UDFA the Giants reach out for. I'd certainly take a flyer on him if he was still on the board in the 6th or 7th round.
Jonas Gray Tribute - ( New Window )
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AcidTest : 4/9/2012 11:52 am : link
liked what I saw from Gray before his injury, but I wouldn't draft him. A UDFA yes, but not a draft pick.

The simple truth is that given when he tore his ACL, it's unlikely that he would do anything next season for anyone. And we need immediate help at the RB position. Somebody who can at least contribute this season. Gray isn't that player.
I like him.  
Natek212 : 4/9/2012 11:52 am : link
And he just looks like an NFL running back.
I Seem To Remember...  
Jim in Tampa : 4/9/2012 11:53 am : link
Mayock saying that Gray was a 4th Rd pcik BEFORE Gray got hurt. Rounds 6, 7 or UFA seem about right now.
Sleeper?  
Chris in Philly : 4/9/2012 11:54 am : link
And miles to go before you sleep...

Looks a lot like Julius Jones  
BlueHurricane : 4/9/2012 12:00 pm : link
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C'mon now.  
81_Great_Dane : 4/9/2012 12:08 pm : link
You can't draft this guy while he's still rehabbing the ACL. UDFA? Sure. But draft picks are too precious, especially this year (because of the new CBA and the Giants' cap issues).

If he'd torn it his junior year and had reduced #s his senior year because he missed some games, that's one thing. In fact, the Giants have scored big in the draft with guys who had big seasons as underclassmen but were limited as seniors because of injury (Tuck, Webster). But this guy wasn't an elite talent before. He's a candidate for "redhshirting" for a year to regain strength in the leg anyway.
Thank you for this.  
TC : 4/9/2012 12:19 pm : link
I think there’s a lot to like about Jonas Gray. And I was going to advocate him also after reading some analyses and watching video. But one report I read he may not have great vision, and I consider that critical to a RB. So I went back and re-watched the video and decided it may be a valid criticism. Specifically that he misses holes that are there, and thinks he sees ones that aren’t.

Of course, there’s no way of knowing for certain what the cause is. He may be coached to do just that, i.e., to take over the called gap whether the play is well blocked, or not. But it causes me enough concern to not be sure about him. IMO, vision is often what separates good backs from great one, or in the less athletically gifted good ones from inadequate ones. It’s a large part of what made Tiki as effective as he was.

My alternative is Alfred Morris. Slower and smaller than Jonas Gray, video shows a hard-nosed player that is much more athletic than analyses of him give him credit for being, who has fine hands and is an effective and sometimes devastating blocker.
TC, I'd love to read that report, so please post a link.  
Klaatu : 4/9/2012 1:09 pm : link
Frankly, I couldn't find any report that questioned Gray's vision, from sources both reputable (like Draft Countdown), or disreputable (like Bleacher Report). I found concerns about ball security, and the fact that he was something of a one-year wonder (seemed like the light went on for him after some pep talks from Jerome Bettis), but no one was questioning his vision.
In my latest mock  
PeterS : 4/9/2012 1:34 pm : link
I've got us taking him in the 6th round.
As requested.  
TC : 4/9/2012 1:38 pm : link
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J. Gray analysis - ( New Window )
TC  
santacruzom : 4/9/2012 1:52 pm : link
I spend a lot of time thinking about such things these days. I think every position can be said to have one intangible that separates the best from the good that are often encapsulated by some kind of vague term -- RB's have vision, LB's have "instincts," CB's and WR's have "ball skills," etc. I think the common ingredient present in all of these intangibles throughout all positions is simply reflexes. You get a guy who processes the information essential to his position just a split second faster than the opponent who's trying to negate you can process *his* information, and you have a considerable advantage.

Nearly every Victor Cruz highlight illustrates this. Athletically, he's probably not light years ahead of every CB's he's made to look silly. But he knows what to do before they do.
Anyone watch Notre Dames opening  
barens : 4/9/2012 2:30 pm : link
game last year? Cierre Wood and Dayne Christ drive their team down to the 1 yard line against South Florida, and in comes Jonas Gray, fumbles the ball, and South Florida runs it back 99 yards for a TD.
I don't mind the Golden Domers...  
Dunedin81 : 4/9/2012 2:35 pm : link
but there really isn't any such thing as a sleeper from ND. There are injury risks from Notre Dame. No school is as scrutinized as are the Irish, and if a player slips through the cracks it is almost invariably because of injury.
Notre Dame RBs  
IrishMike : 4/9/2012 3:19 pm : link
The ND RB ready to go is sitting on the Bears practice squad. Robert Hughes. Buried by Charlie Weiss on the depth chart at ND, Hughes is 5' 11" and 235, a punishing runner with straight ahead speed. It was only at the end of Hughes' college career that Brian Kelly realized what he had.
Hughes ND highlights - ( New Window )
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