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Official UDFA thread for players signing with Giants

Matt in SGS : 4/28/2012 7:21 pm
Every year we have a million threads that are created about various UFDAs who are talking to the Giants or have signed with the Giants. This thread should be for players who have actually been signed by the Giants, with a link and source as well. Traditionally, some information starts to leak out as early as a few hours after the draft has completed, so get Googlin' kids.
Thanks Matt  
Optimus-NY : 4/28/2012 7:29 pm : link
This is another draft. Guys like Steve Largent, John Randle, and our own Jim Burt and Victor Cruz have entered the league this way.

Tonight through tomorrow, and into Monday will be interesting, especially with the rosters being expanded ten spots from 80 to 90.

Now is the time to go for need on both the parts of the rookie free agents and the teams. Giants still need the following:

**bodies at TE (blocker), a MIKE, a jumbo Safety, a Guard, competition at FB, a 3rd string QB perhaps, another body at RB (Andre Brown is suspended and Jacobs is gone), another WR maybe. Gonna be interesting.
Thanks Matt  
Samiam : 4/28/2012 7:30 pm : link
This will make it easier.
Guys I want:  
Anakim : 4/28/2012 7:32 pm : link
OG Lucas Nix, TE Kevin Koger, RB Chris Polk, QB Case Keenum, RB Marc Tyler, TE George Bryan, TE Chase Ford, OC Mike Brewster, OG James Brown, DT DaJohn Harris, MLB Chris Galippo, MLB Jerry Franklin, OG Matt Reynolds, CB Chase Minnifield, CB/S Cliff Harris, CB Coryell Judie, S Duke Ihenacho


And yes, I would bring in MLB Vontaze Burfict
No DO NOT waste a uniform on Burfict.  
Red Dog : 4/28/2012 7:37 pm : link
He is not a good player. He isn't even a mediocre player. He's a BAD player.
lets do what Matt says:  
Optimus-NY : 4/28/2012 7:38 pm : link
Let's post news we find here only like he suggests. We can post the wants, other conjecture, and fun stuff on other threads.
Can someone explain how Burfict  
nyynyg : 4/28/2012 7:39 pm : link
How can go from potential first or second round grade last year up to even late this season to outright BAD player. How?
...  
Tbone2741 : 4/28/2012 7:42 pm : link
Optimus  
Jay in Toronto : 4/28/2012 7:42 pm : link
agreed

like here ;)
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Our first signing!!!  
Anakim : 4/28/2012 7:43 pm : link
La Tech DE Matt Broha will sign with the Giants as an undrafted free agent. #nyg
Just waiting for a call...  
Tbone2741 : 4/28/2012 7:44 pm : link
Broha accumulated 16.5 sacks the last two years  
Anakim : 4/28/2012 7:47 pm : link
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For the record, Steve Largent was a...  
LunaticFringe : 4/28/2012 7:47 pm : link
4th round pick who was cut out of his 1st camp by the Oilers.
Would Love  
crick78 : 4/28/2012 7:47 pm : link
Te George Bryan NC State.
Kid kind of looks like Mark Teixeira  
Saos1n : 4/28/2012 7:49 pm : link
This is usually  
YANKEE28 : 4/28/2012 7:52 pm : link
the best website to track the UDFA signings.
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Dolphins just signed  
MrSaturdayNightSpecial : 4/28/2012 7:53 pm : link
DE Jacqueis Smith from Missouri....good pick up
S Janzen Jackson signs with us as well!!!  
Anakim : 4/28/2012 7:55 pm : link
A BBI favorite
Giants  
Dave in MD : 4/28/2012 7:55 pm : link
usually announce their signings later and mostly in a group.
Janzen Jackson was arrested along with 3 others back in 09'  
Saos1n : 4/28/2012 7:57 pm : link
For armed robbery
Jackson has A LOT of off-the-field issues, but he's very talented  
Anakim : 4/28/2012 7:57 pm : link
A report on him
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Excellent Jay. Thanks!  
Optimus-NY : 4/28/2012 7:59 pm : link
Quote:
Optimus
Jay in Toronto : 7:42 pm
agreed

like here ;)
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I was just reading through your thread. I'm already there. Let's all do the same, and save this for news. Like Matt said, things start to leak a few ours after the draft. Tomorrow will be very busy on this thread.
True, it's not official  
Anakim : 4/28/2012 7:59 pm : link
But I'm just going by what the reporters on Twitter are saying
nepatriotsdraft  
Mike in NY : 4/28/2012 8:03 pm : link
Says we gor Janzen Jackson
Thanks Anak  
Matt in SGS : 4/28/2012 8:03 pm : link
and Dave is correct, the Giants usually announce later than most and in bunches. However, what usually happens is that if a player agrees to sign with the Giants, its usually reported by a local paper, or the college itself and the Giants verify it later. We should start seeing these reports coming through over the course of the next few hours.

But as mentioned above, you can use Jay's thread to talk about what players we'd like to see, this one should be for the list of guys who have said they are going to the Giants and we can discuss them here.
Is Janzen a common first name in Germany  
Spackler : 4/28/2012 8:06 pm : link
?
Jackson's combine workout  
sjnyfan : 4/28/2012 8:06 pm : link
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Jackson's draft profile  
sjnyfan : 4/28/2012 8:07 pm : link
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Jackson  
DanMetroMan : 4/28/2012 8:07 pm : link
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Positives -- Came into college as one of the most highly touted players in all of the country... Has a nose for the football that you just can't teach, always around the ball and always doing positive things for the defense... Uses his body to its full effect when he gets a chance to lay a big hit on a receiver, 188

pounds of fury just flying into players... Still shows good form on tackles, uses his arms and shoulders about as well as you can... Very athletic, has the physical ability you look for in a top safety with his rare blend of speed and athleticism... Good hands for a defensive back, sometimes it just feels that the ball is attracted to his gloves... Not afraid to come upfield and help in run support... Not the biggest dog in the fight, but will take on anybody who steps in his path including offensive lineman... Surprising how durable he is, especially given the physicality that he plays with... Can provide some big plays in the return game, good vision on kick returns... Will play with a chip on his shoulder to prove that he belongs... Returned an interception 84 yards for a touchdown in McNeese State's final game of the season against Lamar... Played two seasons at Tennessee and performed well, including second-team All-SEC by the league coaches as a sophomore.
Negatives -- Character concerns may scare some teams off; left Tennessee after his sophomore season for personal reasons, but was reinstated, eventually dismissed from the team with reported substance abuse issues... Tends to go for the big hit too often, which is a problem when he does it in open field situations... Needs to be careful with his physicality to make sure he keeps himself healthy and on the field... A little wiry in his build, could stand to add about 10-12 pounds, just to get his body used to the everyday wear and tear of NFL life... Ran slower than expected, wasn't very impressive in drills and managed just nine reps of 225 lbs... However, looked more impressive on film than he showed in Indianapolis... The substance abuse questions will drop him off some teams boards entirely.

Read more at Sideline Scouting: http://sidelinescouting.com/rankings/2012/s/janzen-jackson/#ixzz1tNpKrHbT


Sideline scouting
You can check out UDFA signings here as well  
MrSaturdayNightSpecial : 4/28/2012 8:10 pm : link
http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl
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Not Giants news but Chris Polk and Cliff Harris signed with the Eagles  
Anakim : 4/28/2012 8:11 pm : link
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Rutgers product Joe Martinek signed with us  
Anakim : 4/28/2012 8:14 pm : link
That's 3 players now
what position  
gmenrule1986 : 4/28/2012 8:15 pm : link
is Martinek
FB  
Anakim : 4/28/2012 8:16 pm : link
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Now to find out who the remaining seven are...  
Anakim : 4/28/2012 8:18 pm : link
Ralph Vacchiano ‏ @TheBlueScreen Reply Retweet Favorite Open
The Giants have signed 10 UDFAs and filled their roster already. "Yeah, we're done," scouting director Marc Ross said. #NYG
Martinek  
DanMetroMan : 4/28/2012 8:18 pm : link
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Joe Martinek will play pro football in the fall. Bank on it.

Martinek has a Division I background from Rutgers. At 6 feet tall and 224 pounds, he has pro football size. And the work ethic is there, too.

So even if this weekend comes and goes without Martinek's name being announced at the 77th annual NFL draft, which began Thursday, his path to the league should still be as open as the paths he cleared for his teammates as a Rutgers fullback last season.

Martinek has been listed in some online draft projections as a sixth- or seventh-rounder, which means he would be selected Saturday. That would be a big deal for him. And perhaps someday, he could be part of an updated version of the NFL Network's Top 10 Draft Steals list.

But if Martinek doesn't get picked, there's still a strong chance he will quickly latch on as an undrafted rookie free agent. That's OK, because the NFL Network has a Top 10 list for that category, too.

Either way, Martinek will play pro football in the fall. Bank on it.

"I guess we'll see what happens," said Martinek, a 2007 Hopatcong graduate and New Jersey's all-time leading high school rusher. "The thing that's frustrating about this whole process (is) there's a lot of waiting. You've just got to wait and see."

Hundreds of people will attend the draft in Manhattan, and millions more will watch it on ESPN or the NFL Network. Don't count Martinek among the viewers.

"No," he said, "I'm not going to be anywhere near a television. I'll be out doing something."

More like clouting something a few hundred yards.

"Saturday, I'm going golfing," he said. "I'll just do things to keep my mind off it."

The only catch to Martinek being drafted is not being able to select his destination. The Giants and Jets each offer an obvious appeal for the player nicknamed "Jersey Joe." So if Giants general manager Jerry Reese snares Martinek to help fill the void left by Brandon Jacobs' free-agent departure, that would be ideal. Or if Jets GM Mike Tannenbaum picks Martinek to help spring blocks for Tim Tebow, that would work, too.

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martinek  
Friebe : 4/28/2012 8:19 pm : link
he's a hb/fb tweener, much faster than an average fb, but not nearly as proficient blocker as Hynoski.
Anak  
gidiefor : Mod : 4/28/2012 8:22 pm : link
If you can't keep up, we'll have to assign Pugsley to this thread
Holy crap, I think I might be more intruiged by Jackson  
j_rud : 4/28/2012 8:25 pm : link
than by any of our actual picks. He was charged with armed robbery in 09 but wasnt convicted and failed multiple drug tests. He's also described as "188 lbs of fury flying into players" and I saw another write up talk about first round talent.

This could be one of the more interesting kids we've seen here in years.
safeties and defensive backs who  
alligatorpie : 4/28/2012 8:27 pm : link
played at a lower level but had lots of INTs
actually meant to say "could be the most interesting"  
j_rud : 4/28/2012 8:28 pm : link
not "one of the more interesting".
Add another guy to the list:  
Anakim : 4/28/2012 8:30 pm : link
Mike Garafolo ‏ @MikeGarafolo Reply Retweet Favorite Open
Giants have signed Arizona WR David Douglas, per his college teammate Nick Foles. #nyg
Ross talks Martinek  
Canton : 4/28/2012 8:31 pm : link
Quote:
Mike Garafolo
Also In New York Giants
Marc Ross on Rutgers FB Joe Martinek, whom they signed as a free agent: "We had him at the local day. Weve been to tons of Rutgers games. Hes just a gritty, hard-nosed football player. Hes played fullback, hes played running back, done whatever they asked. He worked out really well. Can really catch the ball. A guy you can throw in at any position there in the backfield and hell not miss a beat."
Vontaze Burfict signed with the Bengals  
Anakim : 4/28/2012 8:31 pm : link
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Boy  
mushroom : 4/28/2012 8:31 pm : link
sure hope Charles Way is up for the challenge. If he can keep Jackson with the program they may have their Cruz of the DBs,
j_rud: "Do you mean the most interesting safety in the world?"  
Optimus-NY : 4/28/2012 8:32 pm : link
haha  
chris r : 4/28/2012 8:32 pm : link
thats Burfict.
Janzen  
DanMetroMan : 4/28/2012 8:32 pm : link
baby!
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Jackson  
DanMetroMan : 4/28/2012 8:33 pm : link
highlight reel
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more on  
YANKEE28 : 4/28/2012 8:33 pm : link
Douglas
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Giants  
DanMetroMan : 4/28/2012 8:34 pm : link
sign David Douglas WR Arizona
Jackson  
DanMetroMan : 4/28/2012 8:34 pm : link
looks like a BEAST on tape
Jackson  
chris r : 4/28/2012 8:35 pm : link
looks like a great pickup.
IMO, the Martinek signing is a signal to Ware  
rich in DC : 4/28/2012 8:35 pm : link
and maybe Brown (especially with that 4 game suspension looming). Get your act together or we will go with the Baby Bull.
UMass WR Julian Tailey signs with us. We're half-way done  
Anakim : 4/28/2012 8:35 pm : link
Cruuuuuuz?
two guys the Giants had in  
YANKEE28 : 4/28/2012 8:36 pm : link
WR Cody Pearcy signed with the Falcons and SS Matt Daniels signed with the Rams
MARTINEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK  
BloodlustRevenge : 4/28/2012 8:36 pm : link
yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Man  
DanMetroMan : 4/28/2012 8:37 pm : link
I know nothing about Jackson, but what a hitter
Yeah! We got somebody from the U!  
Anakim : 4/28/2012 8:37 pm : link
Mike Garafolo ‏ @MikeGarafolo Reply Retweet Favorite Open
Miami DE Adwale Ojomo has signed with the Giants per Miami asst @BillyFurmanTheU #nyg
Matt Broha signed with the Giants according to Garafolo  
Optimus-NY : 4/28/2012 8:38 pm : link
DE from La Tech.


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....  
DanMetroMan : 4/28/2012 8:39 pm : link
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Me and Josh Samuda, were pretty much the characters of the team and we like to have fun and a good time, Talley said. One day we came up with the idea of having some business cards made, have fun with it and pass them out and see what kind of buzz we get out of that.
Talley is a little more serious on the field and it shows. In last weeks 27-21 loss to New Hampshire at Gillette Stadium, Talley had career highs with 10 catches and 113 yards.
He added a 23-yard touchdown run, his second rushing score this season.
The joke was that he played well because former teammate and friend Victor Cruz of the New York Giants was on the sideline.
Victor Cruz and Jeromy Miles (UMass alum and safety with the Bengals), my cousin, they said I better have a plane ticket ready for every other game here on out to get those guys in because I had a big day, Talley said.

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Tailey is another PR  
rich in DC : 4/28/2012 8:39 pm : link
Anyone else notice the ST theme running through the draft picks/UDFA and DB brought in as FA this year?
Ojomo  
DanMetroMan : 4/28/2012 8:40 pm : link
was part of the booster scandal in Miami

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Positives -- Ideal size and fires off the ball, has the speed to get around the edge, has the skill set to be a very good pass rusher, including good top-end speed and average closing burst... Plays with good balance, can quickly change direction to avoid and side-step blocks to shoot gaps and create

pressure, good counter-moves inside... Natural length, long arms, initially stays low and does a nice job extending his arms and gaining leverage, has powerful hands, is physical at the point of attack... Strong lower body, can push and pressure the pocket and take on double teams... Disciplined in backside pursuit, holds the edge reasonably well and maintains outside containment, doesn't take himself out of plays, knows his assignments and sticks with them, strong wrap-up tackler... Quick to diagnose plays and get to the ball carrier, does good job of adjusting to screens, draws and misdirection plays... Motor is always running, hard worker, plays with a mean streak... High football IQ, has been used in multiple roles, has experience dropping into coverage, and has played some snaps at defensive tackle, can wear multiple hats in the NFL.
Negatives -- Relies too much on athleticism, technique is very raw and he's still coming into his own as a player, a project... Lacks power, doesn't generate much on contact with bull rush... Does not have much ability to avoid and disengage from blocks, engages a little high and does not utilize hands to get off blocks... Had made some spot starts earlier in his career but really just has one season's worth of starting experience, 14 career starts... Doesn't project to defensive tackle in the pros yet made the shift from defensive end to tackle following Marcus Forston's season ending knee injury in 2011... Minor durability concerns, missed the 2009 season following preseason jaw surgery stemming from a locker room right during 2009 summer camp.

Read more at Sideline Scouting: http://www.sidelinescouting.com/rankings/2012/de/adewale-ojomo/#ixzz1tNxizhAJ
Matt Broha confirmation (DE from La State)  
Optimus-NY : 4/28/2012 8:42 pm : link


...  
BloodlustRevenge : 4/28/2012 8:43 pm : link
Martinek will be our 4th back. He played FB in his SR year, but was a RB before that. Good receiver, blocker, and can run the ball. Tough, creative runner. 4.5 40, but runs more like a big back. has a little wiggle and has good balance for a big back. He can take Jacobs spot as the RB in a Singleback set. He can BLOCK, CATCH, and RUN.
Happy to help, Mike Garafolo!  
Anakim : 4/28/2012 8:44 pm : link
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Jake Bryne  
YANKEE28 : 4/28/2012 8:46 pm : link
the Wisconsin TE the Giants had in has signed with New Orleans
Garafolo just tweeted this thread lol  
Adam XLII : 4/28/2012 8:47 pm : link
LURKER!!!!!
Janzen Jackson.  
Boy Cord : 4/28/2012 8:48 pm : link
I'm buying my jersey tomorrow! Can't wait until he meets Desean Jackson.
Four more to go  
Anakim : 4/28/2012 8:49 pm : link
No word on guys like Matt Reynolds and Chase Minnifield
Another thread...  
Dunedin81 : 4/28/2012 8:49 pm : link
Minnifield apparently had microfracture surgery, that's why he went undrafted.
Jackson  
Mr. Nickels : 4/28/2012 8:51 pm : link
and Martinek i think have a shot at making the team
So far the Giants have signed the following:  
Optimus-NY : 4/28/2012 8:54 pm : link
*pending more of course (ten is the word as stated earlier in the thread). Six are here:

Adwale Ojomo DE, Miami
David Douglas WR, Arizona
Janzen Jackson FS, McNee State
Joe Martinek FB, Rutgers
Julian Tailey WR, U Mass
Matt Broha DE, Louisiana Tech
Look at Janzen's tackles  
Dave in VA : 4/28/2012 8:55 pm : link
You experts ( I am not an expert) PLEASE tell me if his tackles border on dirty...looks like he goes after knees and head shots...one head shot looked like he twisted his neck and could have hurt himself...he was lucky...
on a separate point look at the video, linked earlier..about the 3:00 point did he steal a TD from H Nicks??
aint UDFA season beautiful?  
Neverend : 4/28/2012 8:55 pm : link
The most ridiculous expectations arise for these prospects
Tom Rock just tweeted the above 6 as signed  
TheMick7 : 4/28/2012 8:57 pm : link
& said possibly D'Angelo McCray OG Memphis
Russ Lande says that while he wouldn't draft...  
LunaticFringe : 4/28/2012 8:57 pm : link
Matinek ("tweener" concerns), he is nevertheless confident Martinek will have a good NFL career. Says the FBs who can run AND catch AND block are rare these days and Martinek has ability in all three areas. Says Martinek is a genuinely good pass blocker but an inconsistent blocker in the run game.
Neverend  
DanMetroMan : 4/28/2012 8:58 pm : link
Jackson wouldn't have been a UDFA had he not had off the field issues. He may well have legit NFL talent
Don't  
DanMetroMan : 4/28/2012 8:58 pm : link
see how Martinek can beat out Hynoski. Practice squad maybe
I'm surprised they haven't signed a TE  
Jay on the Island : 4/28/2012 8:59 pm : link
as of yet.
Sucks that Pearcy signed with the Falcons  
AceGeraci : 4/28/2012 8:59 pm : link
I really wanted this kid. His workout numbers are insane. At worst he could be an explosive kick returner. At 170 pounds though, he is a risk to get hurt. We had him in too and went to his pro day so I thought for sure we'd draft him in the 7th or sign him.

I'm really intrigued by Jackson and Martinek. I think both will make the team. Martinek reminds me of a combo between Jacob Hester, Marion Barber and Toby Gerhart. Runs hard, catches the ball well and can and will block. That's a pretty nice backfield mix of explosion and special talent in Wilson, a combination of skill, decent size and tough running in Bradshaw, and good size, hands, blocking and tough running of Martinek. Add in Hynoski's size and blocking and that's a very good backfield.
Who is David Douglas? Is he any good?  
Adam XLII : 4/28/2012 9:00 pm : link
His name sounds too much like Toney Douglas.
Jay,  
Adam XLII : 4/28/2012 9:01 pm : link
as it stands we have 4 healthy TEs on the roster and 2 injured ones.

That's plenty, IMO.. especially if Beckum heals quickly
Douglas  
DanMetroMan : 4/28/2012 9:01 pm : link
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Arizona Wildcats receiver David Douglas is reliable. Hes solid. Hes a nice possession receiver.

Those are often thrown around as back-handed compliments.

Would you believe hes more athletic than you probably think?

The first time I saw him play basketball, I was like, Wow, where is that on the football field? said receivers coach Dave Nichol.

He is sometimes too passive on the football field. Frankly, thats a challenge to him. What I said to him was that he wasnt making certain plays that showcase the athleticism he has.

Douglas is hoping that changes in his senior year. He has put on 15 pounds, playing at about 205. Somewhere behind that Opie-looking face is a maturing, tough athlete ready to punch through his previous stereotypes.


Ive always been a pretty good basketball player, he said.

I can jump, get up and dunk and do all that stuff. Last year, in football, I could show it in bursts but I have to be that way all the time. That is what I emphasized in the offseason, getting more physical, gaining weight.

I will become a more physical blocker and be able to break arm tackles just be a physical player. That is what I have been trying to become.

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Which one or two will make it?  
Killed the K-Gun : 4/28/2012 9:01 pm : link
Remember, these guys are in competition with last year's UDFA that stuck around.

No QB? Perilloux gets a longer look-see?
DanMetroMan  
AceGeraci : 4/28/2012 9:02 pm : link
Martinek isnt strictly a FB. He's a big RB. Guy runs a 4.5 and has good hands. He could be our 4th RB. Hynoski will be our FB.
Don Banks  
DanMetroMan : 4/28/2012 9:02 pm : link
listed Douglas as one of 10 potential "next Welkers"

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The Wildcats' No. 2 receiver behind the more highly regarded Juron Criner, Douglas didn't have gaudy stats as a senior (65 catches for 666 yards and four touchdowns), but he flashed real potential this spring, running in the 4.4s with a 39-inch vertical leap. He has excellent short-burst quickness and the ability to find the gaps in a defense, and at 6-1, 207 pounds he has the necessary size to project to the NFL.

Douglas will be either a late-round pick or a priority collegiate free agent, and scouts have grown more impressed with his soft hands, tight route running and football instincts as the spring has worn on. The Lions and Bills are two of the teams thought to be interested in his market.
In order so far:  
Optimus-NY : 4/28/2012 9:03 pm : link
Matt Broha DE, Louisiana Tech
David Douglas WR, Arizona
Janzen Jackson FS, McNee State
Joe Martinek FB, Rutgers
*D'Angelo McCray OG, Memphis
Adwale Ojomo DE, Miami
Julian Tailey WR, U Mass


NOTE: The asterisk indicates pending (as per Tom Rock)
Even with Jackson's off field issues  
ZGiants98 : 4/28/2012 9:03 pm : link
Ive still seen boards with Jackson going between rounds 3-6. Seems like a great pickup.
I think Chase Minnifield signed with the Redskins  
Anakim : 4/28/2012 9:03 pm : link
Sucks. Both the Eagles and Redskins got my top 2 UDFA in Minnifield and Polk
Sounds  
DanMetroMan : 4/28/2012 9:03 pm : link
like Douglas, Martinek, Jackson and Ojomo all are pretty interesting.
Jackson  
Jay in Toronto : 4/28/2012 9:04 pm : link
Looked like he was playing at a different speed than
Everyone else on that video..
Interview  
DanMetroMan : 4/28/2012 9:05 pm : link
with McCray
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Jackson  
DanMetroMan : 4/28/2012 9:06 pm : link
looks ridiculous in highlights. I'm no college football expert but I think in terms of UDFA he's one to watch.
Martinek  
TRJoe : 4/28/2012 9:07 pm : link
was a tailback his first three years, then moved to fullback his senior year to accommodate highly recruited running backs. He is a kid with good speed and hands out of the backfield.
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Jackson's tape was sped up when he had the ball in his hands  
Eric on Li : 4/28/2012 9:08 pm : link
FYI that is why he looked like he was playing at another speed.
Yeah, Minnifield to the Redskins  
Anakim : 4/28/2012 9:08 pm : link
Dammit!
McCray  
DanMetroMan : 4/28/2012 9:08 pm : link
was a highly thought of DT recruit and said some teams prefer him on defense. Would be interesting to carry a guy who could play DT and OG.
how does Martinek  
chris r : 4/28/2012 9:08 pm : link
compare with that other HB/FB pass catching tweener that came out of Rutgers recently?
6'4  
DanMetroMan : 4/28/2012 9:09 pm : link
336 so he could be a run clogger and also play OG? Interesting player
And Matt Reynolds signed with the Panthers  
Anakim : 4/28/2012 9:09 pm : link
DAMMIT!
janzen jackson  
BronxBombers : 4/28/2012 9:09 pm : link
is sick...used to watch him play at UT...had some personal issues after the off the field stuff....got home sick, went back to louisiana or wherever...his dad coached him in hs...good kid, just needs guidance, i love this player!
Jackson and Martinek  
AceGeraci : 4/28/2012 9:10 pm : link
I was shocked both weren't drafted. I think both weren't for other reasons than their talent. Jackson is explosive and probably had 3rd-4th round talent but off the field shit contributed to him not being drafted, IMO.

As for Martinek, I think the tweener label and him being a white RB contributed to him not being drafted. Unfortunately there's an ignorant stigma that follows white RBs around. They're forced into the label of FB even if that's not who they are. Or they're just passed over. It isn't right but it is what it is.
We're missing 4 players guys  
Optimus-NY : 4/28/2012 9:15 pm : link
The 6 posted above would make ten, as per the number that Marc Ross gave when he said that the Giants were done with their rookie FA signings.
Yeah, we're missing 4  
Anakim : 4/28/2012 9:17 pm : link
Everything has gone quiet now. I'm hoping we sign both DaJohn Harris and George Bryan
Wow Jackson maybe a steal!!  
NykAllDay1 : 4/28/2012 9:18 pm : link
He looks ready to take the 3rd safety spot with a few weeks practice!!
Martinek  
TRJoe : 4/28/2012 9:18 pm : link
is a bit smaller than Leonard, 6-0/215 for Martinek vs. 6-2/225 for Leonard. However, Martinek is faster and more of a true running back. Martinek also held his own during pass protection his senior year as a fullback at Rutgers.
Isn't it 3  
DanMetroMan : 4/28/2012 9:18 pm : link
if McCray ends up being true?
Dan  
Anakim : 4/28/2012 9:19 pm : link
Yes
We  
DanMetroMan : 4/28/2012 9:19 pm : link
have

Matt Broha DE, Louisiana Tech
David Douglas WR, Arizona
Janzen Jackson FS, McNee State
Joe Martinek FB, Rutgers
*D'Angelo McCray OG, Memphis
Adwale Ojomo DE, Miami
Julian Tailey WR, U Mass
Julian  
DanMetroMan : 4/28/2012 9:19 pm : link
Talley
My bad Dan  
Optimus-NY : 4/28/2012 9:22 pm : link
7 is the number. There are 3 missing now we need to still find out.
Burfict  
pjcas18 : 4/28/2012 9:23 pm : link
to the Bengals, shocker. Know this is Giants thread, but thought if it wasn't posted people might be interested, since his name comes up every 5 seconds.
Wait, Martinek is going to be discriminated against....  
Crispino : 4/28/2012 9:24 pm : link
because he's white? Really?

How about the fact that he was a pedestrian running back on a mediocre team? Come on. If he's good enough to make the team and contribute, he'll make the team. They're not going to give hijm less of a chance because he's white.
Optimus  
DanMetroMan : 4/28/2012 9:24 pm : link
McCray apparently isn't 100% confirmed.
Metroman  
BloodlustRevenge : 4/28/2012 9:25 pm : link
I think Martinek was brought in as a RB, not as a FB. Our FB's lately are usually 250+ LBS. I think he'll have to beat out Ware and Brown
White RB stigma???  
MrSaturdayNightSpecial : 4/28/2012 9:27 pm : link
Peyton Hillis,Toby Gerhart,Danny Woodhead,Brian Leonard(Rutgers alum) Beg to differ
That's right about McCray Dan  
Optimus-NY : 4/28/2012 9:28 pm : link
We've got him asterisked for now though. He's listed anyway just in case, but we definitely should all keep our eyes open in case he's not a Giant and someone else is in his place.
Cowboys signed TE George Bryan  
Anakim : 4/28/2012 9:29 pm : link
F our rivals!
We've got 6, possibly 7 nailed down  
Optimus-NY : 4/28/2012 9:34 pm : link
Tom Rock needs to confirm McCray. We need to find 3, maybe 4 more out, before we've got this ten man list down. Hopefully we can do it tonight, if not, then tomorrow for sure. Keep pluggin' away until then.
Alright, I'm out  
Anakim : 4/28/2012 9:35 pm : link
Anyone want to take over?

Hope DaJohn Harris signs here
I'm spent too  
Optimus-NY : 4/28/2012 9:39 pm : link
gotta eat some dinner. Keep the news coming if possible!
Crispino and Saturday night  
AceGeraci : 4/28/2012 9:41 pm : link
Wake up. Yes, there is a stigma associated with white RBs. All the white RBs you mentioned besides Woodhead were all either labeled as having to make the switch to FB or not seen as every down backs even though they were in college. Jacob Hester is another prime example of that. Hell, the second Martinek was mentioned as signed, there had to be at least 10 posts saying he'd be in competition with Hynoski as a FB. Believe me, there is stereotypes in football.
Julian Talley looks impressive  
BloodlustRevenge : 4/28/2012 9:50 pm : link
has anyone seen him here seen him play?
yards-after-catch and jumpballs - ( New Window )
Where did the QB from Harvard  
Phil in LA : 4/28/2012 9:53 pm : link
go?
Phil..if you are talking about..  
Aaron Thomas : 4/28/2012 9:56 pm : link
Collier Winters it looks like he is still available.
...  
BloodlustRevenge : 4/28/2012 10:00 pm : link
WR Gerell Robinson (Arizona State) signs with Broncos. Osweiler has his go-to-guy...when he runs the the second team in practice
AceGeraci (Stereotype)  
MrSaturdayNightSpecial : 4/28/2012 10:02 pm : link
You're making it seem like NFL teams are discriminating against white running backs...

There are absolutely no Asian RB's is it because there is a stereotype or not an abundance of Asian RB talent?

There arent anymore black punters in the league since Rodney Williams and only 4 in the history of the nfl. Is there a stereotype or lack of black kicking talent at that position???
Who are the 3 mystery guys????  
Adam XLII : 4/28/2012 10:02 pm : link
I'm intrigued
One of the remaining 3  
Pete in VA : 4/28/2012 10:04 pm : link
will probably be a camp fodder QB. I think they like to start with 4.
another safety signed  
DCPollaro : 4/28/2012 10:09 pm : link
Miami S Jojo Nicolas tweeted he signed with the Giants as an undrafted free agent. #nyg
Was Albany the other school  
Phil in LA : 4/28/2012 10:11 pm : link
that had a minor prospect QB?
INteresting safety pickups  
Adam XLII : 4/28/2012 10:15 pm : link
...
Jojo joining 2 other DA U safeties  
Adam XLII : 4/28/2012 10:15 pm : link
he'll fit in with us!
Phil In LA You are looking for Dan Di Lella:  
Aaron Thomas : 4/28/2012 10:15 pm : link
Dan Di Lella: UAlbany Quarterback Rocketing Toward The NFL
No word on him yet.
Dan DiLella - ( New Window )
Giants sign small school WR Damian Davis  
MrSaturdayNightSpecial : 4/28/2012 10:18 pm : link
Damian Davis from Mary Hardin-Baylor(yes thats the school name) signed with the Giants according to his friend on Twitter


Ian Myles ‏ @Ian_SoloDolo Reply Retweet Favorite Open
S/o to Damian Davis for signing with the New York Giants! The Cru sent two men to the NFL today! #yuhh #Cru


Here's a vid of Damian
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEraA9CRWaA

And another of him dunking he's athletic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_zEXEuiqkk
Link to his friends page with the message - ( New Window )
Damian Davis WR  
MrSaturdayNightSpecial : 4/28/2012 10:20 pm : link
Highlight clip catching deep ball
Deep pass - ( New Window )
Damian Davis WR clip 2  
MrSaturdayNightSpecial : 4/28/2012 10:21 pm : link
And another of him dunking he's athletic

Dunking - ( New Window )
Davis  
DanMetroMan : 4/28/2012 10:21 pm : link
was dismissed from the team from OK State... He's 6'5
2009  
DanMetroMan : 4/28/2012 10:22 pm : link
Damian Davis has been dismissed from the Oklahoma State football program, a source confirmed on Wednesday night.

Davis, a 6-foot-5, 185-pound wide receiver who would have been a junior in 2009, was dismissed because of an unspecified violation of team rules.

Read more from this Tulsa World article at http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/OSU/article.aspx?subjectid=93&articleid=20090212_93_B6_Damian366351&allcom=1
...  
BloodlustRevenge : 4/28/2012 10:23 pm : link
wow...who was that QB in that video. he threw that 75 yard bomb with just a flick of the wrist
Thanks MrSaturdayNightSpecial  
Optimus-NY : 4/28/2012 10:24 pm : link
That leaves 2 (maybe 3). Here are the 8 we have so far, updated to inclide Davis:


Matt Broha DE, Louisiana Tech
Damian Davis WR, Mary Hardin-Baylor
David Douglas WR, Arizona
Janzen Jackson FS, McNee State
Joe Martinek FB, Rutgers
*D'Angelo McCray OG, Memphis
Adwale Ojomo DE, Miami
Julian Tailey WR, U Mass


NOTE: The asterisk indicates a pending signing (as per Tom Rock)
FYI/Reminder to everyone:  
Optimus-NY : 4/28/2012 10:28 pm : link
Optimus  
Pete in VA : 4/28/2012 10:29 pm : link
plus JoJo Nicolas (see above)
No Problem  
MrSaturdayNightSpecial : 4/28/2012 10:29 pm : link
It seems like we'll have a lot of Tackles,WR's & CB's in camp this year fighting for spots.

Someone has to emerge out of the pack
Thanks Pete  
Optimus-NY : 4/28/2012 10:37 pm : link
Here's the updated list. 9 down (maybe), 1 to go (maybe 2):


Matt Broha DE, Louisiana Tech
Damian Davis WR, Mary Hardin-Baylor
David Douglas WR, Arizona
Janzen Jackson FS, McNee State
Joe Martinek FB, Rutgers
*D'Angelo McCray OG, Memphis
JoJo Nicolas FS, Miami
Adwale Ojomo DE, Miami
Julian Tailey WR, U Mass


NOTE: The asterisk indicates a pending signing (as per Tom Rock)


JoJo Nicolas, DS #22 FS, Miami - ( New Window )
Some Big 10 UDFA, other signings-  
DG : 4/28/2012 10:44 pm : link
Aaron Henry (S, UW)-Raiders, Brian Linthicum (TE, Mich. St.)-Jets, Dan Persa (QB-Northwestern)-Bucs.

Jets also have reportedly signed Ryan Steed (CB-Furman) and G.J. Kinne (QB-Tulsa.)

Would love to see Persa make it.
UDFA QB signings of note--  
DG : 4/28/2012 10:45 pm : link
Kellen Moore (Lions), Case Keenum (Texans.)
No surprise  
DanMetroMan : 4/28/2012 10:48 pm : link
Nicolas came here....

Old interview-

Quote:
Kenny Phillips was one player who I looked up to, and I still look up to even today. He's a guy who took me in and showed me the ropes. He helped me out a lot. Guys like Sean Taylor with his mentality and physical ability, Ed Reed as a ballhawk on the field and a student of the game, Antrel Rolle coming from the same neighborhood as me; those are guys who inspire me

Seeing NFL players come back, it doesn't get any better as far as motivation goes. You see the work they put in to get where they are. There's no slack. They don't take time off. They put in the work constantly. I've seen Antrel Rolle almost every day of the summer, and he and I talk a lot. To see things like that, it's just motivation. I know I can be in the same position, I just have to work and keep pushing.


Link - ( New Window )
thanks Dan!  
Optimus-NY : 4/28/2012 10:52 pm : link
Great find. The Nicolas signing makes a ton of sense from both the Giants standpoint, and his. Good match.
Surprised Still Not Taken  
dannyboomboom : 4/28/2012 10:52 pm : link
Was very high on him for the draft and surprised he wasn't taken and still not as an UDFA...

Donte Paige-Moss, DE, UNC
Nicolas  
Samiam : 4/28/2012 10:52 pm : link
He originally committed to play at Rutgers but decommitted at the last minute to go to Miami.
OL Stephen Goodin to Giants possibly  
MrSaturdayNightSpecial : 4/28/2012 10:59 pm : link
Buck Mahoney ‏ @HubSports_Buck Reply Retweet Favorite Open
Heard #UNKLopers OL Stephen Goodin has signed with the Giants.

Buck Mahoney via Kearney Hub Sports Edito - ( New Window )
...  
DanMetroMan : 4/28/2012 11:02 pm : link
Quote:
theres a buzz surrounding 2011 football offensive lineman Stephen Goodin, who was a second-team All-American for his position this past season.

Yazvac says Goodin is special because of his size. At 6-6 and 310 pounds, Goodin is drawing a look from New Orleans, Green Bay and Carolina.

Scouts are interested in Goodin, whos currently wearing a cast from a broken wrist this last season. They have come to UNK to see what kind of a person he is and eventually will test him in drills at a Pro Day event.


Courtesy Photo - Stephen Goodin
Pro Days, in March, are similar to a mini NFL Scouting Combine: running the 40-yard dash, performing the vertical jump, broad jump, three-cone drill, pro agility and bench press.

Things they want to know vary from background information like where Im from and what my family is like, to sports background (sports played, positions played, awards) from high school through college, Goodin said. Past injuries and personality weigh in as well.

Ask Goodin his strength, and he agrees its his size. But Goodin says hes even more special athletically, and his work ethic is another big asset.

Right now I have a workout that I am following, concentrating on my leg strength, speed and agility.

Players at the next level need to fit the size model. Its really what scouts look for in the grand scheme of things, hence the draw to Goodin.

Link - ( New Window )
Pre-draft  
DanMetroMan : 4/28/2012 11:05 pm : link
Quote:
Teams, specifically the Seattle Seahawks and New York Giants, have shown a ton of interest in Goodin (6-6, 310 lbs.), a former tight end for the
Hastings Tigers.

He played just about every position along the line for the Lopers, starting at left guard for two years and serving as the teams left tackle this past fall.

Goodin was a rare sixth-year senior as he took a redshirt season in 2006 and then received a medical redshirt in 2010 when he suffered a broken leg during fall camp. In the weight room, he has a top squat of 604 lbs., a top bench press of 403 lbs. while running a 4.90 40-yard dash.
OL Stephen Goodin  
MrSaturdayNightSpecial : 4/28/2012 11:06 pm : link
According to this article the Giants were very interested in him so it could be legit.
Giants at his pro day. - ( New Window )
So we're back  
Phil in LA : 4/28/2012 11:14 pm : link
to the old 6'6" 310 model of OL.
Thanks again MrSaturdayNightSpecial.  
Optimus-NY : 4/28/2012 11:15 pm : link

Matt Broha DE, Louisiana Tech
Damian Davis WR, Mary Hardin-Baylor
David Douglas WR, Arizona
*Stephen Goodin OG, Nebraska-Kearney
Janzen Jackson FS, McNee State
Joe Martinek FB, Rutgers
*D'Angelo McCray OG, Memphis
JoJo Nicolas FS, Miami
Adwale Ojomo DE, Miami
Julian Tailey WR, U Mass


NOTE: The asterisk indicates a pending signing.



Here's the latest addition: Stephen Goodin OG, Nebraska-Kearney - ( New Window )
That's ten, with 2 of them being categorized as being "maybes"...  
Optimus-NY : 4/28/2012 11:18 pm : link
At least we have a working ten to confirm what Marc Ross said earlier tonight about their being done, and having signed ten guys.
remember some of them might just be invited to the camp next weekend  
Phil in LA : 4/28/2012 11:32 pm : link
and more than 10 will be invited, with some roster moves made after that if they need to make more room.
So we basically found out the 10 rookie FAs the Giants signed  
Optimus-NY : 4/28/2012 11:32 pm : link
about 4 hours after the draft ended earlier today at 7:21 pm.

Not bad, assuming of course that these 10 are in fact all correct, particularly with the two who we're not completely sure about (Stephen Goodin, the OG from Nebraska-Kearney, & D'Angelo McCray, the OG from Memphis).
Excellent point Phil  
Optimus-NY : 4/28/2012 11:34 pm : link
Hell, I remember when Chase Blackburn made the team in 2005. He wasn't even signed at first. I remember him coming in in June or something from Akron. Things are definitely still fluid right now as far as these Rookie Fa signings are concerned.
...  
Optimus-NY : 4/28/2012 11:37 pm : link
We can take Goodin off of the pending list I guess now  
Optimus-NY : 4/28/2012 11:38 pm : link
.
Nicholas isn't a great athlete  
Eric on Li : 4/28/2012 11:42 pm : link
but he has a great makeup and he's a pretty tough/versatile guy. Played a lot of press CB this year because he was their best DB by far. At best I'd say he could be a James Butler type.
Here's the updated list of ten:  
Optimus-NY : 4/28/2012 11:42 pm : link
Matt Broha DE, Louisiana Tech
Damian Davis WR, Mary Hardin-Baylor
David Douglas WR, Arizona
Stephen Goodin OG, Nebraska-Kearney
Janzen Jackson FS, McNee State
Joe Martinek FB, Rutgers
*D'Angelo McCray OG, Memphis
JoJo Nicolas FS, Miami
Adwale Ojomo DE, Miami
Julian Tailey WR, U Mass


NOTE: The asterisk indicates a pending signing (as per Tom Rock).
Eric  
Optimus-NY : 4/28/2012 11:44 pm : link
James Butler works. Giants won a SB with him starting.
Lots of WRs putting their UDFA  
nyynyg : 4/28/2012 11:50 pm : link
Chances with the Giants? There have to be some other opportunities that have more potential for them.
Janzen Jackson plays  
Fast Adam : 4/28/2012 11:51 pm : link
like a SAVAGE! Loved that highlight tape. Hope he has his head on straight, if he does I will go out on a limb and say he has a good chance at being the number 1 backup at FS.
The odds are that at leqast one of these players  
Optimus-NY : 4/28/2012 11:59 pm : link
will be on the opening day 53-man roster.
Danmetro  
j_rud : 4/29/2012 12:01 am : link
Thanks for the link, sounds like an interesting kid. Love the quote you posted, hes got a great attitude and it sounds like a good head on his shoulders. With the roster expansion I expect there to be quite a few intruiging stories emerging and in turn quite a few interesting positional battles. Camp should be very, very interesting this year.
A safety making it is the best bet  
Optimus-NY : 4/29/2012 12:02 am : link
if I had to guess, just looking at the roster and accompanying holes prior to these rookie FA signings, and after the completion of the 7 round draft itself earlier. Jackson and Nicolas will have realistic chances at making this club pending any more vet FA signings.
nepatriotsdraft website  
gmenrule1986 : 4/29/2012 12:04 am : link
has Mccray as the 10th Giant
gmenrule  
Optimus-NY : 4/29/2012 12:06 am : link
We've had McCray listed here way before them. Review the thread.
they didn't have Goodin  
Optimus-NY : 4/29/2012 12:07 am : link
.
they've got Goodin now though  
Optimus-NY : 4/29/2012 12:08 am : link
.
yeoman's work Optimus-NY  
chris r : 4/29/2012 12:11 am : link
thanks.
I just love my team chris r---we all do.  
Optimus-NY : 4/29/2012 12:13 am : link
It makes no sense except to us, lol.
What's the word on this kid from Rutgers?  
Sneakers O'toole : 4/29/2012 12:16 am : link
I know we have a lot of people here who watch a lot of their games.
No  
DanMetroMan : 4/29/2012 12:18 am : link
problem. 3-4 of these guys sound pretty interesting.
...  
DanMetroMan : 4/29/2012 12:21 am : link


Jackson, Douglas, Nicolas, Goodin and Ojomo look especially interesting to me.
Amen  
NykAllDay1 : 4/29/2012 12:23 am : link
I'm an obsessed rabid Giants fan who lives Giants all
Day everyday, your right optimus, nobody understands but the people here. That's one thing everyone has in common here. We are Elite fans above all others in knowledge and integrity.

Now cheers! To another amazing draft by Jerry Reese, Marc Ross, and the rest of our scouts and coaches! I have never been so confident in our team and organization, as a diehard Yankee fan in even more confiden in the giants team then the glory days of 2000 for the yanks!

Bottom line, I am extremely proud to be a Giants fan and I'm thankful there's such a great level of intelligence
In out Front office!

It's an amazing time to be a Giants fan and I think we may have a
Dynasty on our hands! 3 peat in our house!?!?! I think it's possible!

Peace.
Sneakers  
Optimus-NY : 4/29/2012 12:24 am : link
Here's a blurb on Martinek from our own Pattie Traina from Inside Football.

Giants Reportedly Agree to Terms with Several Undrafted Free Agents - ( New Window )
No linebackers drafted  
Phil in LA : 4/29/2012 12:26 am : link
and no linebackers brought in to compete with last year's kids. Interesting.
Ojomo  
DanMetroMan : 4/29/2012 12:29 am : link
Quote:
One month after Adewale Ojomo's request for a sixth year of eligibility from the NCAA was surprisingly denied, abruptly ending his Miami Hurricanes career, the defensive end has fully shifted his focus to the NFL.

"Well, I can't do nothing about it right now, at this point," Ojomo said after a practice earlier this week in preparation for Saturday's Battle of Florida All-Star Game 8 p.m. at FAU Stadium.

"I'm not going to sit back and weep on it. I'm in the real world now, so I've got to conduct myself as an adult and just move forward, do what I have to do in order to get to the next level."

Like seven other former 'Canes, Ojomo has used this week to try to impress NFL scouts.

He's been training at former sprinter Michael Johnson's Performance Center outside Dallas on the advice of former UM cornerback Brandon Harris in hopes of losing the 10 pounds he gained in moving to defensive tackle, where the team needed him this past season.

Ojomo, who finished his UM career with 79 tackles, 16 for a loss, 9.5 sacks, two forced fumbles and three fumble recoveries, said that experience shows NFL teams he can move inside on third down and be productive. "You need to be versatile when you're trying to make a 53-man roster," he noted.

While he had been confident he'd receive a sixth year from the NCAA, Ojomo said he had been mentally preparing himself for the possibility he wouldn't.

"I knew my career wouldn't be forever," he said. "I was prepared, so it wasn't too much of a shock mentally."


Link - ( New Window )
Phil, do you think Jon Goff may still be in the cards, even if it's  
Optimus-NY : 4/29/2012 12:30 am : link
just for 1 or 2 years at or near the vet minimum, or has that ship sailed completely?
Phil  
Adam XLII : 4/29/2012 12:31 am : link
they really, really liked their rookie LBers last year... they all gave us something. Greg Jones.. who earned a few starts(!) was probably the least impressive one, haha
Phil  
DanMetroMan : 4/29/2012 12:34 am : link
that is interesting. They have a pretty interesting group with

Boley, Blackburn, Rivers, Williams, Herzlich, Paysinger, Jones, Goff
Jones  
DanMetroMan : 4/29/2012 12:35 am : link
looked pretty crappy to me but he WAS a rookie.
Martinek looks pretty interesting from that video  
Bama Bish : 4/29/2012 12:36 am : link
Ware better step it up. Martinek looks like a quick little tank that can pass protect, catch the ball, runs physical, fill in at FB in a tight spot. I'm guessing, but I bet he'll looks the part on specials too.

Anyone have measureables handy?

That former Tenn S will get suspended for hits like that.

Several othes look promising as well. Not total fodder.
I thought Greg Jones looked crappy too  
Adam XLII : 4/29/2012 12:38 am : link
I thought Herzlich really looked the part, though. He just needs experience
...  
DanMetroMan : 4/29/2012 12:38 am : link
Quote:
Rutgers fullback Joe Martinek surprised many with his 4.4-second 40-yard-dash at the Scarlet Knights' pro day last week.

And while it was assumed the more than 20 NFL scouts in attendance took notice, an ESPN reporter confirmed Thursday the Hopatcong star left a lasting impression.

Adam Schefter said via Twitter the redshirt senior's speed turned more than a few NFL heads.

"Looks like Rutgers is producing another NFL RB/FB prospect: Joe Martinek, who ran in 4.4s at pro day. Other measurables (sp) caught NFL's attn.," Schefter tweeted.

Link - ( New Window )
I don't know if that says anything about Goff  
Phil in LA : 4/29/2012 12:43 am : link
it's just interesting, because some people were listing LB as a need and a first round possibility.
Thanks Dan, yeah he looks fast, and gets up to speed in a hurry too  
Bama Bish : 4/29/2012 12:45 am : link
Just got even more crowded in our backfield. Things are going to be interesting at RB.
I wonder where Stapleton got his info from?  
Optimus-NY : 4/29/2012 12:48 am : link
Hmmmnnn....

At least get rid of the asterisk by McCray's name after cutting and pasting it... - ( New Window )
Thanks Optimus!  
Sneakers O'toole : 4/29/2012 12:55 am : link
I was just wondering what impressions on tke kid were. I know we have a lot of people here who follow the Rutgers program closely.
Sintim & Tracy  
frets : 4/29/2012 12:56 am : link
...two promising young SLBs are still on tis team and I hope they get their chances to impress.

I really wish the NFL would increase the roster size by another 10 to 12 players
No other TE's brought in  
Phil in LA : 4/29/2012 12:59 am : link
shows you how much they like the kid and Hopkins.
NFL really should have expanded rosters to 60  
NykAllDay1 : 4/29/2012 1:02 am : link
IMO.
...  
BloodlustRevenge : 4/29/2012 1:10 am : link
60 man roster and 53 active players on gamedays
65 & 55  
frets : 4/29/2012 1:30 am : link
65 man roster, 55 active on game day, screw the practice squad
Besides Wilson,the Giants drafted/signed as FA  
TheMick7 : 4/29/2012 2:29 am : link
(as of tonight)no other RBs. Martinek is a HB not a FB,Schiano just decided to move him there because of HB depth & lack of FB depth & he delivered when given the opportunity.I can easily see Martinek becoming our Danny Woodhead.
Martinek developed into a good receiver out of the backfield  
jeff57 : 4/29/2012 6:41 am : link
last season. Good blocker as well.
MIKES anyone?  
jeff57 : 4/29/2012 6:41 am : link
?
No MLBs. Goff resigning likely?  
Jupiter : 4/29/2012 6:54 am : link
I don't see any veteran free agents available that would interest the Giants. Either the team feels good about what they have or they feel confident that Goff will resign.
Potential MLB's on roster already  
Cypruss187 : 4/29/2012 7:03 am : link
Michael Boley, Greg Jones, Mark Herzlich...I would be very surprised to see Goff resigned. There has been a lot of speculation over the last few weeks that Boley could move over, possibly flanked by Rivers and J.Williams? Add in Jones with a little more seasoning after his time last year, and/or possibly getting Herzlich reps since physically he looks like he can handle it, and there is no need for Goff...

Granted, Goff had started to shape up into a capable MLB, so anything's possible...but at this point he wants to start surely, so that may not be available for him in NY. I am excited to see waht three faster linebackers can do (Rivers good in coverage, of course Boley is decent, and J.Williams no question)...
Article on Janzen Jackson from Chattanooga paper before draft  
Defenderdawg : 4/29/2012 8:20 am : link
http://timesfreepress.com/news/2012/apr/23/second-chances-former-vols-are-hoping-for-nfl/
not a MLB  
aquidneck : 4/29/2012 8:35 am : link
but Kiwi is still on this team and will get more LB reps than most. Boley and Williams will also see the field plenty. Herz has the potential to start and Rivers could challenge for starting snaps as well. I think we're set at LB.
Like what I'm reading about Stephen Goodin  
PeterS : 4/29/2012 9:09 am : link
First, I thought it was Oklahoma OG Stephen Good but this Goodin is from Nebraska-Kearny. HS tight end, he benches north of 400 lbs. Still has a cast on his broken wrist so he probably couldn't work out much. I'm guessing he can play either OG or OT. Practice squad?
If the kid is serious about life now  
nyynyg : 4/29/2012 9:16 am : link
And in our locker room, this may be a huge UDFA steal in this draft class. Jackson seems like a player. Without the problems, I really think this kid is a second round draft choice. And if he had a junior season for the Vols like he did his first two, who knows.
some folks  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/29/2012 9:33 am : link
need to do a better job of reading the tea leaves. They may re-sign Goff, but it's more than obvious they like their linebackers. They've been saying so for weeks but many on BBI are not listening.
there  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/29/2012 9:34 am : link
are eight tight ends on the roster right now. Seven if you don't count Ballard.
Jackson  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/29/2012 9:36 am : link
has MAJOR red flags. He was kicked out of one program. Was arrested. Drugs. I wouldn't get too excited.
found a nice little  
Finch : 4/29/2012 9:46 am : link
scouting report video on Janzen Jackson. He seems to have the physical tools, you just hope he can get his act together
Tale of the Tape - Janzen Jackson - ( New Window )
Eric  
nyynyg : 4/29/2012 9:55 am : link
Well we are about to find out. Either the kid is serious or he isn't about getting on the right road. If he isn't, he'll be out of the league. If he is, he will make the team, he is very talented. That is where my excitement comes from.

The fact that the Giants signed him makes me think they think he can get on the right path.
Clear that the coaches and FO  
nyynyg : 4/29/2012 10:00 am : link
Believe in our young linebackers after what they saw last year. That in itself is very exciting.
To refresh, here's the list of ten players the Giants have reportedly  
Optimus-NY : 4/29/2012 10:03 am : link
signed after the draft last night. Please see the screenshot of a tweet by Newsday's Tom Rock below about what Marc Ross said early yesterday evening after the draft's completion about this:





The 10 are as follows (in alphabetical order according to last name):

Matt Broha, DE, Louisiana Tech
Damian Davis, WR, Mary Hardin-Baylor
David Douglas, WR, Arizona
Stephen Goodin, OG, Nebraska-Kearney
Janzen Jackson, FS, McNee State
Joe Martinek, FB, Rutgers
*D'Angelo McCray, OG, Memphis
JoJo Nicolas, FS, Miami
Adwale Ojomo, DE, Miami
Julian Tailey, WR, U Mass


NOTE: The asterisk indicates a pending signing (as per Tom Rock).
Is their a limit  
giantsfan227B : 4/29/2012 10:05 am : link
to the number of UDA's you can sign? It seems from some posts that 10 is the max. Is that true?
No  
nyynyg : 4/29/2012 10:06 am : link
The Cowboys were up to 15 at 10 pm from what I could tell last night
The max you can have on your roster is 90  
Blue Blood : 4/29/2012 10:09 am : link
the Giants were at 80 after the draft.
Re: giantsfan227B's 10:05 am post.  
Optimus-NY : 4/29/2012 10:13 am : link
That is not the case. The Giants only had ten more roster spots to fill, which is why they signed that amount. Keep in mind that this can change though. Please see the blurb below by Pattie Traina from Inside Football about this to answer your question as well. Click on the link below to read more please as well:

"One other note. The Giants only have 10 roster spots left to fill in order to his the 90-man training camp maximum. The rookie mini camp will certainly feature a lot more than just the draft picks and the ten potential UDFA signees so the above list is subject to change."(Please see source below).

Giants Reportedly Agree to Terms with Several Undrafted Free Agents by Patricia Traina - ( New Window )
Goodin  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/29/2012 10:21 am : link
sounds like an interesting prospect. Wonder why the Miami safety didn't get more pre-draft pub.
Janzen Jackson  
giantsfan227B : 4/29/2012 10:22 am : link
Video makes him look like a beast. Watched rivals.com 5 star video. Seems like a decent kid but read about armed robbery. Still, surprised this kid wasn't drafted. Got kicked out of Tennessee and went to play at McNeese where his dad coached. I just hope this kid has straightened it out because he looks like a freaking steal although in today's NFL half the hits I saw on his highlight reel would be penalized.
giantsfan  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/29/2012 10:22 am : link
the roster limit is 90. The 10 figure is coming from Ross who said they signed 10 yesterday. They could still sign more.
BlueBlood  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/29/2012 10:23 am : link
Giants were at 72 before draft. Draft picks don't count until signed.
Are there details on what happened  
nyynyg : 4/29/2012 10:27 am : link
On the armed robbery and why the charges were dropped. The drugs are obviously a real concern too. Just wondering what happened. Some times these guys make seriously bad decisions on who they hang with and find themselves in a very bad situation; not saying that is what happened which is why I am asking.
nyg  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/29/2012 10:36 am : link
so is getting kicked off a major collegiate program.
Just read a few articles on the incident  
nyynyg : 4/29/2012 10:41 am : link
Morons. Two of the guys Jackson was with jumped out of the car and went to another car, pointed a gun its occupants and asked for their money. The occupants who said they didn't have anything, and also said that they didn't feel like they were in danger based on the guy's behavior. A third guy came up (supposedly Jackson) and said to the other two "c'mon guys, let's go".

When officers pulled the car over, they found an air pellet gun and some pot in the glove box. It was not Jackson's car.

Just really stupid. And one of those situations you simply do not put yourself in. Time will tell with this kid if he plans on showing the Giants if he has grown up in a significant way.
Eric  
nyynyg : 4/29/2012 10:46 am : link
Look I am not justifying anything the kid did BUT the circumstances of the situation both pot and the incident itself merited it. It should also be noted that that season was under Kiffin and the Vols were under a microscope that season due to discipline issues being swept under the rug previous years. He put himself in a bad situation and he paid the price for it.

Eric  
SBlue46 : 4/29/2012 10:48 am : link
I think we have enough TE's...
Purvis is a Ballard clone,Bennett,Bear,Robinson..
Purvis may stay on PS...I thought he would make it but
I don't see Bear losing job and Robinson should make it..
If he goes PS he is gone..we don't need any more TE's is
the main point..why people still want more?
JOJO  
SBlue46 : 4/29/2012 10:53 am : link
I can't find much on him...did he play much?
JOJO  
SBlue46 : 4/29/2012 10:54 am : link
I can't find much on him...did he play much?
Unsigned draft picks do count toward the 90 man roster limit  
eagles nut : 4/29/2012 10:54 am : link
Sorry, Eric, what you said is incorrect. Part of the roster increase from 80 to 90 was that unsigned draft picks count toward the limit. The Giants could conceivably bring more players to the rookie minicamp on a tryout basis.
eagle nut  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/29/2012 11:00 am : link
I said unsigned draft picks don't count. You didn't read what I said correctly.
SBlue  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/29/2012 11:00 am : link
Yes, he started all season.
Eagles  
nygirlie : 4/29/2012 11:05 am : link
The draft picks only count against the roster after they are signed. They may never sign -- in theory.
No  
eagles nut : 4/29/2012 11:05 am : link
Eric, that's incorrect. Unsigned draft picks DO count.
Here  
eagles nut : 4/29/2012 11:08 am : link
http://www.csnwashington.com/football-washington-redskins/redskins-talk/League-increases-offseason-roster-size?blockID=695486

"NFL spokesman Greg Aiello just tweeted that the NFL will increase offseason rosters from 80 to 90 players, effective at 4 p.m. on Tuesday.

The move was discussed at the owners meetings last month but was tabled for later consideration. According to Aiello, the NFL Executive Council approved the measure today.

The increase is not as large as it may seem at first. With the 80-player limit, unsigned draft picks and some other players would not count against the limit. Under the new limit, the draft picks and others would count."
From Greg Aiello, NFL PR guy  
eagles nut : 4/29/2012 11:11 am : link
Greg Aiello ‏ @gregaiello

90-player limit will include active, inactive, practice squad, exempt, reserve lists, unsigned draft choices, franchise FAs.
eagles nut  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/29/2012 11:20 am : link
I misunderstood you! ;) Thanks for the clarification.
JoJo  
BigBlueCane : 4/29/2012 11:22 am : link
isn't very good that's why there was very little info about him. He's camp fodder.
As  
AcidTest : 4/29/2012 11:26 am : link
a UDFA, Jackson might be a risk worth taking, but his behavior is frankly worse than that of Janoris Jenkins. You really have to wonder if he's just saying the right things to get on an NFL roster.

He has talent, but his tape shows a real "me first" and frankly dirty player. It looks like he is going for "kill" shots, and targeting the head and knees.

I think I would have let him go elsewhere, but he is a UDFA.
Martinek  
KWALL : 4/29/2012 11:42 am : link
isn't faster than Leonard. Not close to the same type of athlete as Leonard. Leonard was a better runner and receiver. Martinek is a straight ahead guy with no wiggle at all. Doesn't play up to the speed he showed at the proday.

He can catch. He runs hard although he doesn't explode into tacklers and break tackles. Blocking was OK on college level. He would have to put on some weight to play FB in the NFL.

His best move would be to put on 25 lbs and try and make it as an athletic FB. As a RB? I don't see it in the NFL.
AcidTest  
Optimus-NY : 4/29/2012 12:08 pm : link
Quote:
As
AcidTest : 11:26 am
a UDFA, Jackson might be a risk worth taking, but his behavior is frankly worse than that of Janoris Jenkins. You really have to wonder if he's just saying the right things to get on an NFL roster.

He has talent, but his tape shows a real "me first" and frankly dirty player. It looks like he is going for "kill" shots, and targeting the head and knees.

I think I would have let him go elsewhere, but he is a UDFA.


That's why he's an UDFA. One screw up--if he even breathes wrong--and he's toast. There's no risk on the Giants' part with respect to the cap at all. Good opportunity to see what he can do (it's not a risk since they're not gambling anything).
Eric  
Blue Blood : 4/29/2012 12:31 pm : link
I was assuming they were counting the players they just drafted... Thanks for clarification
KWALL  
JohnG in Sav : 4/29/2012 1:05 pm : link
Possible that Martinek could be in competion with Bear Pasco?
Can catch and block even if only on the move. Add weight and leave the online blocking to the other 5.
Martinek would back up Hynoski and be used as Beckam was used.
Eagles  
nygirlie : 4/29/2012 1:09 pm : link
You are right. I was not on top of the change in rules.
If going to play where  
old man : 4/29/2012 1:17 pm : link
Your FATHER coaches doesn't straighten you out you really need help.
I'm sure that the Giants talked to all parties concerned to even offer a UDFA contract.
IF he is straightened out he could be a great pickup....hes not a guy that plays football; hes a football player.
Acid  
nyynyg : 4/29/2012 1:30 pm : link
Sorry, I completely disagree that his are worse than Jenkins and Jenkins went in the second. They are both bad though.
Pascoe  
DanMetroMan : 4/29/2012 1:46 pm : link
is going to make this team. They have a very raw TE in Robinson and Bennett... nobody else at TE. I know they are supposedly high on Hopkins but I don't see any way Martinek is the one to push out Pascoe.
Tend to agree  
nyynyg : 4/29/2012 2:05 pm : link
Unless Robinson has an unbelievable camp, I don't see how they are going to save a spot by letting Pascoe go who at least they know is serviceable.
Good to see they signed Ojomo  
OlyWAJintsFan : 4/29/2012 2:13 pm : link
because if Osi leaves either this year or next, we'll need another in a long line of vowel-laden DEs waiting in the wings.....
KWALL, I am a big RU fan too & I have a different viewpoint  
TheMick7 : 4/29/2012 2:17 pm : link
on JM.In all his years with RU,he was never flashy but had a way of getting the big yards,getting in the endzone,catching the big pass.NJ's all-time HS rusher,he can run the ball. I think he has qualities that aren't measured by the clock or statistics. He does remind me a lot of Woodhead from the Pats,who just gets whatever job he's given done. I think he's a HB not a FB & if given the opportunity will beat out Ware for the 5th RB slot.
I take it that these listed below are our UDFA choices so far?  
G-Men43 : 4/29/2012 3:10 pm : link
Matt Broha DE Louisiana Tech
Damian Davis WR Mary Hardin-Baylor
David Douglas WR Arizona
Stephen Goodin OG Nebraska-Kearney
Janzen Jackson S McNeese State
Joe Martinek FB Rutgers
DAngelo McCray OL Memphis
Jojo Nicolas S Miami
Adwale Ojomo DE Miami
Julian Talley WR Massachusetts

Red Zone - ( New Window )
...  
El Pollo Diablo : 4/29/2012 3:18 pm : link
I'm friends with a former teammate of OG Steve Goodin at Nebraska-Kearney.
He had nothing but praise for him. Said he's smart and the hardest worker he has ever seen (and that dude is an extremely hard worker himself).
Sounds like the type of guy the Giants are looking for in their linemen.

Will be interesting to see how he does, but I think he has a chance to make the team and stick around as a backup.
Jackson is the only real prospect and we know his deal  
DCJeff : 4/29/2012 3:24 pm : link
Goodin sounds like the only other one I can see making it onto the practice squad. The rest are training camp fodder with really nothing to get excited about but that is the nature of these signings. Cruz spoiled it for all of us.

That said, if Jackson gets "it" and it suddenly clicks he could be a pretty solid player.
It seems Martinek has a shot  
nyynyg : 4/29/2012 3:36 pm : link
As well. No one beyond Bradshaw, Wilson and Hynoski are safe members of the backfield
Re: G-Men43's 3:10 pm  
Optimus-NY : 4/29/2012 4:25 pm : link
Yes. We've had these since last night at about 11 pm or so. Just go through the thread. They were already there before these outside websites had them. Credit BBI.
Ralph V tweeted we've signed Georgia State's  
TheMick7 : 4/29/2012 6:43 pm : link
Jake Muasau (no position listed) & a tryout for Merrimack QB James Suozzo yes,more than 10 but no guarantee any of the now 12 stay
Muasau OLB 6-1 243 w/impressive afro  
TheMick7 : 4/29/2012 6:44 pm : link
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