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According to TMZ Junior Seau involved in shooting

TheMcThrill : 5/2/2012 2:08 pm
rumor has it he is deceased

my fiance told me about the story on TMZ
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wow look at this  
kelsto811 : 5/2/2012 2:30 pm : link
Bart Hubbuch ‏ @NYPost_Hubbuch

Eight members of a 53-man roster are dead from a team less than 20 years ago. The odds of that have to be astronomical.
Big Blue '56 : 5/2/2012 2:30 pm : link
Here come the over-reactions  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/2/2012 2:31 pm : link
with the sport dying, blah, blah, blah. Ugh.
Greg from LI : 5/2/2012 2:31 pm : link
I'm sure that plays a role. Barring some kind of technological breakthrough in helmet design, I don't see how football as we know it survives in the long run. It's not going away any time soon, but with each year that passes fewer and fewer people will allow their sons to play high school football, leading to fewer playing college football, finally leading to a decline in talent in the NFL. Seems inevitable at this point.
Necro -  
Exit 172 : 5/2/2012 2:31 pm : link
I think I read somewhere that years of heroin abuse isn't good for the brain.

I might be wrong, though.
kelto, that's the Super Bowl Chargers, right?  
bois : 5/2/2012 2:31 pm : link
Referenced as a cursed team.
Horrendous news...  
BigBlueBuff : 5/2/2012 2:32 pm : link
Just terrible.
PaulBlakeTSU : 5/2/2012 2:32 pm : link
my uninformed guess is that former players (and famous people, and anyone with access) are taking a lot more prescription pills for their pains and depressions, etc.

While I think prescription drugs can do a lot of good, the cocktails that people will access are taking, are incredibly dangerous.

I have no idea if Seau had been taking pills, but he wouldn't be the first former athlete with a lot of recurring pain from his playing days to do so.
Has this story been confirmed  
Mason : 5/2/2012 2:32 pm : link
I would think it would be breaking news material. Wow is an understatement.
T-Bone : 5/2/2012 2:32 pm : link
kelsto811 : 5/2/2012 2:32 pm : link
yes...the even sadder part is that I bet most of those guys were late 20's early 30's
BigBluePrestige : 5/2/2012 2:32 pm : link
who was the eighth member of the '94 Chargers to die?  
Greg from LI : 5/2/2012 2:33 pm : link
When Sean Lee died, he was the sixth.
Wuphat : 5/2/2012 2:33 pm : link
Either that or we go straight up Roman Coliseum and damn the consequences.
And here come the under-reactions of people  
The Natural : 5/2/2012 2:34 pm : link
with no foresight. It's no coincidence that the lifespan of a NFL player is shorter than the norm...Wake up genius.
The initial speculation by TMZ  
BigBluePrestige : 5/2/2012 2:34 pm : link
has subsequently been confirmed. Seau dead.
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Or turn it into much less of a collision sport  
Greg from LI : 5/2/2012 2:34 pm : link
Something in between contemporary tackle football and flag football.
Reports that it was self inflicted  
jlukes : 5/2/2012 2:34 pm : link
Beginning to surface
Here's hoping  
Go Terps : 5/2/2012 2:35 pm : link
the NFL and NFLPA are working to reach out to all ex-players to assess their condition and offer some assistance to those in need of it. This is horrific.
BrettNYG10 : 5/2/2012 2:35 pm : link
Really sad.
kelsto811 : 5/2/2012 2:36 pm : link
I have no idea just retweeted that but I'll try to figure it out
You would think that CTE and other head traumas  
Marty in Albany : 5/2/2012 2:37 pm : link
would be even more significant for amateur and professional boxers.

Is that an issue for them?
1994 Chargers  
bois : 5/2/2012 2:37 pm : link
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Gunshot wound to the chest  
kelsto811 : 5/2/2012 2:38 pm : link
you would think if it was suicide...or maybe not
ESPN hasn't said a word yet  
Adam XLII : 5/2/2012 2:38 pm : link
I bet they don't want to jump the gun
RicFlair : 5/2/2012 2:39 pm : link
11:33 AM PDT -- Sources tell us ... Seau died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the chest.

Back in 2011, former NFL star Dave Duerson shot himself in the chest ... and explained in his suicide note that he wanted his brain donated to a research center because he believed the blows he took to the head during his football career caused him to become mentally impaired.
aha, Lew Bush  
Greg from LI : 5/2/2012 2:39 pm : link
Seriously, that Chargers team is obscenely unlucky. Car wreck, plane crash, guy getting hit by lightning twice??
The Natural : 5/2/2012 2:39 pm : link
I think it is definetly an issue. Thing is that as a NFL player, especially linemen, you are getting big head shots 60+ times a practice, college and high school.
ironic this happens  
Adam XLII : 5/2/2012 2:41 pm : link
on the day all the players are complaining about bounty suspensions
Mark from Jersey : 5/2/2012 2:42 pm : link
I bet he wanted his brain left intact  
BigBlueinSoFl : 5/2/2012 2:43 pm : link
for study.
OMG if he shot himself in the chest  
Adam XLII : 5/2/2012 2:43 pm : link
major implication about preserving his brain to research CTE...
or what  
BigBlueinSoFl : 5/2/2012 2:44 pm : link
Ric posted.
Dave - more reasons to keep players safe  
mjt832 : 5/2/2012 2:46 pm : link
if his problems stemmed from multiple concussions.
The thinking at some high schools is really starting to change on this  
manh george : 5/2/2012 2:50 pm : link
Two brothers in my building are fabulous multi-sport athletes. The older one is a junior. He had two football concussions, and is now barred from contact sports for the rest of his time in HS. He is becoming a tennis player.
if the current concussion rates in youth football  
Number17 : 5/2/2012 2:52 pm : link
up through high school - or even the deaths and catastrophic injuries tied directly to football at this point isnt enough to reduce participation in football -- I cant see this having an effect since he is at such an elite level that it would not seem relevant to Mom and Dad signing up their youngster.
I doubt my son would have been a football player anyway  
Greg from LI : 5/2/2012 2:52 pm : link
Just because with his genes, I doubt he's very big....but my wife has already said she'll never allow him to play football.
It's not an overreaction if you have  
Go Terps : 5/2/2012 2:52 pm : link
ex-players shooting themselves in the chest because their brains still function well enough to know it's fucked up, but not well enough to stop them from doing it.

This is a huge fucking deal. Here's hoping that in his tragic death Seau becomes the poster boy for reforms that exceed the lip service the issue is being given now by the NFL and the NFLPA.
According to WJFK in DC  
bradshaw44 : 5/2/2012 2:53 pm : link
they said he shot himself in the chest.
Go terps  
Adam XLII : 5/2/2012 2:53 pm : link
Sorry for the repeat  
bradshaw44 : 5/2/2012 2:54 pm : link
HomerJones45 : 5/2/2012 2:54 pm : link
and their after-effects deserve further study.

you get 8 guys out of one team dead already, it doesn't sound like CTE.
Man this really leaves me sad  
wolverine77 : 5/2/2012 2:55 pm : link
I love football, loved playing it, love watching it but it is sad to see the damage it can cause. Whether or not Seau's death relates to football through CTE, it definitely is another blaring signal about the physical toll the sport takes.

All that said, I still think allowing a youngster to play football is a good idea. What this should do though is make anyone with kids who play that much more aware of concussions. I definitely got dinged when I was younger, and probably should not have gone back out there when I did. Everyone has to be more vigilant.
go terps  
Number17 : 5/2/2012 2:55 pm : link
I dont completely disagree, but wouldnt that imply that when Duerson shot himself in the chest, it should have been a watershed event at that point?

It should have been, but wasn't  
Adam XLII : 5/2/2012 2:56 pm : link
because of recency bias and maybe a little bit of cover up
Greg from LI : 5/2/2012 2:57 pm : link
Far from it - they've had guys die in a car wreck, a plane crash, getting hit by lightning, drug overdose, heart attacks and complications from diabetes. Just a horrible coincidence that they all played for the same team.
Go Terps : 5/2/2012 2:57 pm : link
If Seau's brain is studied and found to have the same issues as Duerson's, then yeah I'd say Duerson's death should be a watershed event in the history of the sport.
Not to  
whobetta : 5/2/2012 2:59 pm : link
diminish or pooh pooh "CTE" but have all active players and ex players been checked for this?

I mean is it only possible to test DEAD people? if so then there is that whole causation/correlation that people love to use.

while still a tragedy and I feel for anyone who know him, i can't help but wonder if they could just test all NFL players right now and see the statistics on that.
Homer from Torrance strikes again  
manh george : 5/2/2012 2:59 pm : link
PEDs don't lead one to shoot himself in the chest, specifically.
Adam XLII : 5/2/2012 2:59 pm : link
I recommend you read up on the research being done. Funding has been a problem
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