Rumor: Dolphins offer 2nd and 4th for Osi?

Miami will be lucky to finish 3rd in that division with or without Osi so it's a high 2 and a 4th

Take it and run Jerry.

Sounds far fetched to me. If the offer is true I'd do it.

I will do them.

Probably around pick #'s 42-50

Definitely take it. You will not get much better. Especially from a team is not likely to make the playoffs, so the picks will not be low in the round.

its validity.

rumors are like the Terminator. You just can't kill them.

However one interprets the order. You know what I mean though.

Take your talents to South Beach!!!

From a team that might pick in the top half of each round? Id maybe hold for a 3rd insteaf of the 4th but its close. Also Dolphins are not as much a threat as the Ravens, Osi doesnt put them it over the top

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Fair deal for both sides

I'm having a hard time believing this is true.

there seems to be a lot of smoke going on.

Florida is a pretty wheelchair-accessible state, what with all the fogeys living there.

any other links that prove its validity!

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I really would like Osi to stay though. This team has a good chance of repeating and he will play a major role in doing that.

ZERO sense for a team rebuilding like the Dolphins.

trading partnerish. Think Mr. Mara has been red carpeting with Rick Ross and JLo.

And we're getting him back. Haha

Fins have an owner desperate for star power and publicity.

Giants need to snap call that offer ASAP.

Let alone a sack master. Hate to loose him no matter how many picks. Wish he wanted to stay.

4 for Osi would be borderline insane.

even if Miami was hitting the sauce earlier than usual today this isn't something they'd do.

He gives us the best chance of a repeat. However, if the situation becomes totally out of control and a 2 and a 4 from Miami is real, then do it.

Sign Andre Carter to play DE (Played on Pats last year) along with Kiwi. We might be short an outside LB.

I checked Ralph's twitter. Nowhere does he discuss the tradce rumor with Osi and the Dolphins. The rumor is a post from a message board, where the user has 48 total posts with no link to such rumor.


DELETE this thread..

Take it!

do it!

I was wondering if anyone actually clicked the link because it was from another message board...and yes it was on Ralph's twitter...it was a link from one of his tweets (he just didn't tweet it personally)

to start a bidding war. *grin*

...shit.

A 4th maybe...

...a 2nd and 4th is a joke.

Bullshit.

from Scout.com.

Message board. From a user with 48 posts and NO link. The board asked for a link and he never responded back. This rumor is bullshit.

osi only has 1 year left on contract that would be insane if phins gave up all that. phins will have a top 10 pick in the 2nd rd.

The source is another asshat, who doesn't have a source. This is regifted asshatery. And it got a sticky...

There's no such tweet from Ralph

thats why the dolphins are who they are

i'd take that deal and run.

....Clint Sintim and Rhett Bomar? What a FLEECING!

but that is a deal I would take.

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That joke wasn't funny the first time. Perhaps one of your draft preview magazines has a better one that you can share?

rumor spoiled us all.

That actually was a message board rumor that turned out to be true.

It is just a rumor, and kelsto said as much in the title of the thread.

What kind of cap space would an Osi trade create in the immediate future.

The first thing in the title says "Rumor".

Half of sports journalism is reporting unsubstantiated things. I don't know why the possibility of something being untrue riles up people so much.

has grown intolerant of rumors, and wants nothing other than confirmed fact to be posted. Thus, asshats no longer post on the forum and posters take a pounding.

It's pretty weak and lame.

is not big enough to contain the ego's of Both LeBron and Osi. LeBrosi????

I think this trade is a possibility for them to get a couple of bookend rushers in Miami. Even though this is a bit of a rebuild, this team played very competitively in several games last year so they do have talent and Osi is a proven commodity. The other part of this is that many teams, especially those in the AFC will look to copy the NYG blueprint for beating the Pats which is by getting after Brady with a heavy pass rush.

in this trade scenario, hence the 2 picks floated around. They're not giving up that much to give him up after one season.

from a message board no less? It's like having, "Josh in The City" posting it here, but without a link. How many of you would go off on him?

This is BBI, not Giants.com

Miami sucks so any pick you get from them is going to be high and you wanted a 2nd for Osi anyway. Take the deal Jerry!

Stop the bitchin & cryin !!

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has ground to stand on.

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RUMOR...INSIDE RUMOR Had to put that out there because well it is out there...Might be worth discussing. Saw it browsing Ralph Vacchiano's twitter and it was posted on Scout.com. For the record I really don't believe it but where are the BBI asshats when you need them?

I can't find it on Ralph's timeline. The reference to Ralph's twitter feels like a complete fabrication on the part of the OP to give this rumor added validity.

tore both hamstrings racing to accept the offer.

Reese said he wanted a second? I call bullshit. The only thing I remember him saying he would take is a 1.

From a value perspective a 2 and a 4 might be worth it in a vacuum, but this trade would greatly diminish our chances of repeating this year. It's all about this year as far as I'm concerned. I'd really, really rather we did not make this trade.

Fair enough.

Ralph posted a link and it was contained inside the link. He didn't post it directly. Probably should just delete because I guess prefacing the post with a warning doesn't even matter

I just went through Ralph's Twitter feed from the last 48 hours twice and can find no such link. Are you sure it wasn't somebody else?

He posted this link to "suria"...whatever that is I thought it was an extension of twitter. Either way apparently it updates relevant Giant news including all of the beat writers on there. I never said Ralph tweeted it I said I was browsing his twitter and came across it.

I think it's pretty clear the subject is a rumor. So why are you complaining if there's no validation.

Besides, the point of "stickying" threads is they are Giants related and trending/have a lot of reply posts. Nothing wrong with that.

You said "Saw it browsing Ralph Vacchiano's twitter." You say he didn't tweet it, but posted it to suria. I don't know what that is.

Please just post the link to how you found this browsing Ralph's twitter...

The original post is poorly worded. It implied that Ralph linked to the rumor somehow when he did not.

It would already be done

crap pinned?

closest thing I can find linking Ralph to this is a fan comment to one of his blog posts.


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but here was his tweet it was a news story relating to Eli...I clicked it and sure enough saw the rumor below his news story

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Ralph Vacchiano ‏ @TheBlueScreen Eli Manning said last night that he's never had a concussion, but admitted the whole issue is "a scary deal." He ... http://www.sulia.com/c/new-york-giants/f/fe395e77-4afd-43fa-8745-037d1a73087c/?source=twitter

I figured if Ralph is linking the site it has to have some sort of credentials. Amazingly the link to the story is GONE (unless someone can find it in the archives). It is whatever it was there about an hour ago whether you guys believe it or not.

I would feel more comfortable with an "un-sticky" because I honestly wasn't trying to cause a stir just pass along possible news

Just cause you would do it doesn't mean Reese would.

"Reese Flogs the Dolphins!"

but since we're post 2012 draft, I'm still inclined to hang on to Osi(assuming he'll eventually play). We've got a great chance to compete for another title and he makes it easier to do that, despite being a pain in the ass.

its probably the best offer we are going to get. The #2 pick would be around pick #40.

to make sure the rumor i valid.

You've posted more bullshit rumors on this site than any other poster.

Tell me Rich, have you overheard any recent Giants plans at the Tick-Tock Diner lately?

he posted a rumor he saw. He didn't sticky it or ask for it to be stickied. Would you rather no one post anything they read till the national media has picked it up?

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was posted that Eli was going to miss significant time with the separated shoulder.

He's a batshit crazy version of John Fucking Clayton.

There was also a trade for Roy Williams (WR) that was a done deal that Rich overheard Jerry Reese talking about at the Tick-Tock Diner.

in dallas near the sideline and he told me through text that Eli was hurt..I just relayed the info and believe me I was sorry i did that and that was the only time i gave out bad info.

I was correct about the Lavar arrington signing..and that i did hear at the tick tock before it happened. That doesn't excuse the person who stickied this thread.

has an injury to a starter, they will be willing to make a better offer. Also, by waiting, the Giants will have a better understanding of how well they can play without Osi.

I apologize if this has already been said.

Eli did say in Americas Game that the doctor told him he would be out 3-4 weeks, but Eli did not allow himself to be out that long. Most players would have probably missed at least 2 weeks.

Thanks for posting, and thanks for taking all the crap and not deleting.

Isn't this supposed to be fun? Where there is smoke, there is fire.

I rushed to this board and told everyone to stay tuned. The signing was Dusty Ziegler (a starting center for awhile). I was so blasted on this board I guess they were looking for Barry Sanders. Since that day i will never post another rumor or fact I'm told by an associate who has connections. It doesn't pay to be an asshat here. For some that have been around here (since the big blue home page) might remember this incident

And the site is diminished because of it.

The team just came off winning a championship. I want them heading into next season with the best chance at a repeat. Osi on the roster next season offers that best chance.

Wake signed? Great motivation for them to get the deal done.

While we're fantasizing how about Osi and a 3rd for Long and a 5th?

They could move Beatty to the right side and have a nice set of bookend OT's

but Osi can be the difference in another championship run. The NFC is really competitive. That's a huge amount of incremental talent we'd be losing just to do what teams that WANT to get to our position would do.

Yeah, one could argue we might not have won it last season without Osi. I want Osi playing hungry in his contract year on the roster. I want the Giants to repeat, something they haven't yet been able to pull off.

Once again a complete asshole. Just look at his pictures he posts on his profile a complete loser who hides behind his posts. People like u stop the asshats from posting.

Maybe River Mike was being serious. BBI player rumors are usually entertaining. I just don't understand how people can grill the poster when the poster admits it's just a rumor.

People become on internet boards. Guilty of it myself. Find myself getting angry when people don't agree with me or post a contradictory opinion forcefully. Why should I take it personally? It's just an opinion

Some posters seem to have snarky condescending posting styles, so there is that, but we all know that it's easy to confuse sincerity with sarcasm on the internet

Are people in such a rush to get rid of a guy who brings in double digit sacks just for a 2 and a 4? I'd rather keep Osi, get 10 more sacks out of him this year and get nothing in return when he leaves via free agency. If the dolphons offer a 1 thats a different story.

Some knuckleheads here are too into playing arm chair GM. Great pass rushers do not fall off trees. Before Osi, name the other great pass rusher we had next to Strahan for years?

River Mike was saying that he wished you posted stuff like that again.

I think you overreacted there just a little buddy.

open mouth, insert foot.

and you choose the negative way. Pretty sure you also read it the wrong way, but that's not really the point.

the pictures of his family in his profile have to do with anything?

has changed for the better over the years. I wasn't around on BBI when we signed Ziegler so I don't have any recollection of your experience with sharing information. I can think of several occasions in my time on BBI when someone has broken a scoop before it hit the media and while not everyone believed it they didn't necessarily attack the poster for sharing what he believed to be inside information from a credible source.

I can remember a guy who lived in Tiki's building breaking the news that we cut Arrington, Emmons and Petigout because he heard it from Tiki himself. Aside from the exception of one or two idiots, I don't remember the guy who broke the Steve Smith to the Eagles story taking much flack prior to news hitting the media. Heck, we were even mostly receptive to that asshole who ended up scamming people out of fantasy football money when he claimed his sister was friends with Hixon when he told us Hixon had been traded to Cleveland in a deal for Braylon Edwards.

Now where people do catch flack for posting rumors is when they have a rep for posting bullshit to get attention (Rich Houston) or when they have just signed up and don't make any kind of case for why we should believe them. Those 2 types of people catch shit all the time and they should because 99% of them are pathetic losers. If we miss out on the scoop that other 1% of the time it's worth it, because the beating those idiots take probably discourages other idiots from doing the same.

In general people who link to rumors on other forums don't get attacked directly. If someone saying the rumor is bullshit hurts the posters feelings, they need to get over it. It's not like BBI is saying you or your close personal friend is an asshole for telling us this. They're just saying I think this thing on the internet you happened to stumble across before anyone else is likely bullshit.

The only thing I saw people on this thread giving flack over was the fact that this shaky rumor got stickied and that the OP claimed he saw it on Ralph's twitter (likely a deciding factor in the thread being stickied). The few of us that did some research found that it is absolutely not on Ralph's twitter timeline or in any of his expanded tweets on that sulia site. Whether this deception was by design or incompetence of the OP, that is where people had the issue.

kelsto is not an insider so we aren't risking driving him away. And anyone with inside contacts and even mildly competent critical thinking skills isn't seeing this thread as a reason to not share inside information.

way to ruin a good pile-on with level headedness and reasoning. ;)

The poster at the link says he "read an insider rumor" ... Now, I may be wrong, but I interpret that as meaning the "rumors" section on ESPN's "Insider" page.

For the record, there is no such rumor, or even speculative conjecture, over there about Osi going to Miami.

(Side note - I find it funny how on that other message board there is no curiosity whatsoever by any of the posters about whether it's BS or not. They all just accept that guy's word and believe trade talks are in the works with the Dolphins)

Registered today using the name of a previous known poster of rumors.
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Don't ever agree with Carl

I say, consider, not absolutely make the trade. Short of that, Osi is a Giant for 2012. GMs always say they draft for the future, but this is an exaggeration. If the GM thinks his team can win this year with the players he has, he keeps his players. Winning a SB is not a given. It's very rare. When the opportunity presents itself, you go for it. The Giants have an excellent chance to repeat with Osi. Without him, it's problematic.

Bad morning. You can agree with me now :)