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A. Schein says that the Eagles have the most talent

Optimus-NY : 5/10/2012 2:43 pm
in the NFC East.


And it starts….
Thought you’d all like to know this “fact”. He said so on the SiriusXM Blitz show earlier this afternoon. It’s mighty kind of him to ignore results, isn’t it? Specifically the two below:

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They did  
TheBigBlueOne : 5/10/2012 2:44 pm : link
in 2011 too.
Ok  
Big Blue '56 : 5/10/2012 2:46 pm : link
I feel so abused.
Just because they have the most talent (in his opinion)  
bigblue12 : 5/10/2012 2:46 pm : link
doesn't mean they will. In all fairness, they are a tremendously talented team, as are the Cowboys and Giants. Not much separating them in talent.
win  
bigblue12 : 5/10/2012 2:47 pm : link
doesn't mean they will win
The Cowboys have all the talent...  
camp long shots : 5/10/2012 2:47 pm : link
Don't get it twisted. The Giants? 4th in the East
Love it!  
arcarsenal : 5/10/2012 2:47 pm : link
This is the song that doesn't end, it just goes on and on my friend.....
Big Blue '56  
TheBigBlueOne : 5/10/2012 2:47 pm : link
Anyone who listens to Adam Schein's voice feels abused.
Schein is another loser  
BigBlue TT : 5/10/2012 2:48 pm : link
Jet fan.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/10/2012 2:48 pm : link
The Eagles and Giants have similar talent except at one position...QB.
What bigblue12 said...  
Dubs : 5/10/2012 2:48 pm : link
The division is stacked. You could make a legitimate argument for the Cowboys, Giants or Eagles having the most talent in the NFCE.

That doesn't inherently lead to wins.

I don't know the extent of Schein's quote--if he said "the Eagles are the most talented" or "the Eagles are the most talented and therefore the best"--and the difference is crucial.

If he's just talking about the level of talent and he thinks that Philly has the most...ok, whatever. Not an unreasonable thought.
TBBO, yup.  
Big Blue '56 : 5/10/2012 2:49 pm : link
Sirius goes off at 11a.m. until 3 pm...The only exception is when I'm driving from the airport and even then, only on occasion
DID HE SAY IT REALLY LOUD  
drkenneth : 5/10/2012 2:50 pm : link
LIKE THIS? ON A FOOTBALL THURSDAY???

I hate Schein like poison.
He also predicted that the Giants would finish 3rd in the division  
eclipz928 : 5/10/2012 2:50 pm : link
and not even make the playoffs last year (and this was before the season started). Its helpful to know in advance to listening to anything he says that Adam Schein is a complete idiot.
Good.  
x meadowlander : 5/10/2012 2:51 pm : link
Let them predict another Eagle Superbowl. That always works out well. I actually welcome their success. A strong NFC East provides the best entertainment from a Giant fan's perspective.

Frankly, I'm actually a little more concerned about Dallas. They took great strides to address that shitty secondary. I expect them to be the Giants primary contender this year.
The only fact  
bois : 5/10/2012 2:52 pm : link
Is the we're officially in a new NFL season, and the hype machine is churning back to life.

The Eagles are not the most talented team in the Division by any measure. Giants have them beat in that department, soundly. As does Dallas. Eagles have the most team speed, for sure, but not the most talent.

It  
Metnut : 5/10/2012 2:52 pm : link
took a miracle comeback against Dallas for the Giants to avoid going 8-8 and finishing third in the division. Not sure how being that close to nailing a prediction makes someone an idiot.

Some people are going to pick against this year, especially considering we only went 9-7 in the regular season last year.
Just one question.  
Semipro Lineman : 5/10/2012 2:53 pm : link
Who the hell takes him serious enough to get butthurt about anything he says or write? Come on, be for real
The Eagles had the most talent last year too  
BlackLight : 5/10/2012 2:53 pm : link
For all the good it ultimately did them.
The Eagles aere a "DREAM TEAM"  
old timer : 5/10/2012 2:54 pm : link

They play like they are asleep.
An easy argument can be made  
Pitt G-man Dan : 5/10/2012 2:55 pm : link
that the Giants have the best offensive and defensive player in the division.
I just don't know where you'd give the Eagles  
bois : 5/10/2012 2:58 pm : link
An on paper, talent-edge over the Giants or Dallas.

Speed, sure, Eagles have it.

QB I'll take Eli or Romo over Vick.

WR, I'll happily take the Giants or Cowboys group over Philly's.

There isn't a great Oline in the bunch, so I'd call that a wash. Defensive Line the Giants. Eagles over Cowboys, I guess. Linebackers major edge to Dallas, followed by the Giants then the Eagles.

Secondary I'd take New York #1. Dallas should be much improved this year, and Philly wasn't exactly all world last year.


I think LeSean McCoy is the best running back in the division. That's the one spot where Philly really has the clear talent edge.

Someone once Said  
thevett : 5/10/2012 2:59 pm : link
Talent is nice but Character wins
It is a dumb thing to say  
Randy in CT : 5/10/2012 3:02 pm : link
given that the division is close and we just won it all.
Schein used to be a Giants fan  
Jints in Carolina : 5/10/2012 3:06 pm : link
now he takes more time to knock them more than any other team....my God is an obnoxious fuck.
Jints...  
WHOMYSON : 5/10/2012 3:10 pm : link
You shouldn't call your God an obnoxious fuck...
Givne Schien vast expereince in player development and scouting  
weeg in the bronx : 5/10/2012 3:10 pm : link
oh wait, he's just a talking head, who give a shite?
This fucking loser belongs in a high school drama club.  
arcarsenal : 5/10/2012 3:10 pm : link
Schein = Schmuck  
Emlen'sGremlins : 5/10/2012 3:11 pm : link
And what exactly are his qualifications to discuss sports on any level (other than being picked last in any/every neighborhood pick up game that he ever was asked to participate in)?
What  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/10/2012 3:15 pm : link
it comes down to is this: do you believe in Michael Vick or don't you?

If you do, you can make the argument that they are as talented on paper as the Giants.

But if you don't believe in Michael Vick, then how can you make this argument?

It's a QB league. And Eli Manning is a top three QB.
Weird how  
mrvax : 5/10/2012 3:15 pm : link
many of these talking heads know as much or less than the average BBI poster. And they get paid!!!

Agree the Cows & Eagles have a bunch of talent but Eli is the difference.
There simply is no reasonable argument for anyone  
eclipz928 : 5/10/2012 3:17 pm : link
to pick another team, on paper, to come out of the NFC East. When you consider that the Giants had 11 guys on IR (not counting guys who were injured and then cut), they played bulks of the season without guys like Tuck, Nicks, Bradshaw, Osi, and the entire offensive line at full health, and that they've virtually lost no key players to FA - how can any reasonably intelligent person pick another team unless he thinks that Demeco Ryans is the second coming of Lawrence Taylor.
I am granting permission for someone to start my idea  
Essex : 5/10/2012 3:18 pm : link
there should be a website that tracks these so called "Experts" opinions. Similar to the firejoemorga.com website. The reason these guys say so many things so definitively is that there is no accountability. You could bet they would be a lot more measured if they were called on their absurd predictions.
Adam Schein is a boob  
mfsd : 5/10/2012 3:24 pm : link
but he also has a lot of air time to fill in the offseason
how many "experts" last year  
bigblueviator : 5/10/2012 3:39 pm : link
predicted the Giants not to finish last in the division after they lost smith and boss. this shit happens EVERY year. Eagles and Cowboys vying for the division title every summer.

The Giants have won 2 Superbowls in the last 5 years.

Cowboys havent done shit in 15 years. Eagles, please.
We should probably get used to proclamations  
4thand17 : 5/10/2012 3:41 pm : link
like this from members of the media - a lot of them are going to pick a third place finish and no playoffs for the Giants in '12 - with a little "don't be surprised if the Skins are vastly improved with RG3" sprinkled in for good measure.
Would anyone on BBI be surprised if the Eagles won the division  
wgenesis123 : 5/10/2012 3:42 pm : link
and the Giants won the Super Bowl? I do not expect that but it certainly would not surprise me after last season, the Giants are built to win playoff games and the Eagles are the Eagles.
I love these stories...  
rebel yell : 5/10/2012 3:48 pm : link
particularly the endings. GIANTS WIN THE SB!!!
JPP is more talented  
Phil in LA : 5/10/2012 3:49 pm : link
than any player on the Eagles. Eli is, too. Then we're comparable or better everywhere else accept in the return game, though that may have been fixed this offseason.
All the NFC east is talented  
The Natural : 5/10/2012 3:51 pm : link
the difference is in the Head coaches and their staffs. Reid has had many talented teams and can't seem to win the big one. Making his offensive line coach, the new DC was brilliant!!
he admits  
Dave in MD : 5/10/2012 3:51 pm : link
Eli is much better and didn't predict the Eagles to win. The overreaction to this is amazing.
Eric  
SBlue46 : 5/10/2012 4:05 pm : link
talent means little...Its a team sport and Eagles and Cowboys
are premo's and have bad coaches..when will media get it?
Giants have more talent  
ZGiants98 : 5/10/2012 4:13 pm : link
at QB, WR, DE, DT, LB, S, CB, K, and P. Other than that it's really close.
Because  
djstat : 5/10/2012 4:15 pm : link
JPP, Tuck, Osi, Kiwi, Webster, Rolle, Bradshaw, Nicks, Cruz and Manning are not talent.

Trent Cole who can't play the run is talent. Nhamdi who coudln't cover Cruz is talent. Vick who has more jail time then Eli does passing yards is talent
Our coaches are also  
TheBigBlueOne : 5/10/2012 4:15 pm : link
more talented.
To add on to what Phil said  
Semipro Lineman : 5/10/2012 4:15 pm : link
Outside of Running Back and Tightend, which unit on the Eagles is more talented? On defense their linebackers were worse than ours last year and they upgraded the position by getting a linebacker who had less tackles last year than Kiwi. (Yeah, I know stats don't tell the whole story but it does point to a likely smaller impact than people think.) Then the Safety position is still a big unknown for the Eagles, plus you can't call their Cornerbacks an upgrade over the Giants when you compare all the players other than Webster and Nnamdi. And unless the two draftees have immediate DROY impact, the Eagles defensive line isn't better than the Giants.

The Eagles offensive line (which didn't really perform well last year) took a hit when Peters got injured and their wide receivers may have great name value but they certainly haven't outplayed the Giant receivers. (Now Jason Avant is a very good 3rd WR and he represents the Eagles only advantage in this unit.)

Finally, the punt return game and FG kicking are the only part of the special teams the eagles have an edge. The Giants had a better KO return average and a better punting Net. Their FG kicker had a better season with more attempts than Tynes.
he didn't say the better team  
Dave in MD : 5/10/2012 4:17 pm : link
The Eagles are very talented. I disagree with him, but it's not like he said the Giants suck. He likes the Giants team a lot.
I like when the Giants get no respect......  
Simms11 : 5/10/2012 4:22 pm : link
it's awesome! It just fuels the team to show the pundits that they are true jackasses!
I think he referenced  
lester : 5/10/2012 4:25 pm : link
today as a "thunderous thursday".......his voice is enough to change the station.
Every day that I drive home  
YAJ2112 : 5/10/2012 4:27 pm : link
I am thankfully that Sirius flipped the schedule a while back to move Scheinbox to the midday slot and Tim & Pat to the drive time slot
This is the clown with the 10w-40 hairstyle on the SNY, right?  
jcn56 : 5/10/2012 4:29 pm : link
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