Didnt he play in the 60s?

Reggie White was a monster. I think it's safe to say that JPPs floor is Strahan or Tuck at the very least. That's saying alot.

I never saw Deacon Jones play, (saw him on Big Miked Dupp SB46 week) but he reminds me of Osi.

I think JPP is probably on par with anyone for a man of his size. Reggie White was a more powerful player and just a freak athlete for a man his size. Deacon Jones was a great talent who took advantage of a dirty rule and rode it to greatness. But even with that, he wasn't a feared run defender. Teams ran right at him at times because he was focused on the pass rush so much. So no idea where to put him.

But just because of his quickness and fluidity he's nothing like I've seen for a guy that big and strong. Peppers was close but I don't think he was as smooth. And Mario Williams might be the most naturally gifted athlete the DE position has seen, but I don't think he's ever shown the fluidity of JPP.

He's a beast.

just wait til he grows up.

slows him a bit, the coaches will let him know.

because we're switching to a 3-4 D.

Something close a maxed out frame. When you read about his background entering the league and realize that he never participated in a true off season weight training program in his college days due to bouncing around from college to college you realize how much room he had for improvement in that area. Look at a guy like Suh who was embedded in the Nebraska strength program for years....he entered the league with a strong foundation in strength and conditoning. That is one area where JPP certainly had much room for growth. If he were overtraining I might be concerned, but I don't think that is the case.

Likely looks faster in his college days due to him not facing NFL caliber offensive linemen.

the snap. That has much more to do with technique, experience, and the ability to anticipate snaps by reading keys and snap counts, than it has anything to do with total weight or even considerable over-weight.

The proof of that (weight not influencing get-off at the snap) was evident when we watched Fred Robbins play.

Adding 5 pounds of muscle and losing 5 pounds of fat at the same time would be outstanding.

You'd expect the game to 'slow down' a bit for him this season. He's gained valuable experience and built confidence with his success. Physically he should be at his peak with more mature muscle development. He's going to destroy QB's. Can't wait.

HE said he added 5 lbs - means he played at 290 last year. I never believe what is listed for weight. Carl Banks was listed every year at 235 lbs and hardly ever played for the Giants under 245. Leonard Marshall was always listed at 285 and said himself he played at minimum of 300.

He is going to be 295 and probably will still look lean.

But he was not chasing RBs 10-15 yeards down the field, laying out vertically and dragging them down from behind like JPP was last season... LT was the one doing that back then and he was doing it at 245lbs... I've only seen clips of Deacon...

It is a natural to get a little bigger as you get older. A person just fills out.

Nothing to see here. Move on. Move on.

that someone could be so physically fit and weigh almost 300 pounds. I'm 6'0". In my prime I may have been a max of 200 in great (weight-trained) shape.

5th leg is probably as long as his arms and weighs about 15 pounds...

what JPP does next year. I believe this is the first full spring he has had with coaches at any level, which makes it amazing what he has done so far.

and what Reggie White did, most remarkably, was constantly work vs double teams, and still be disruptive and productive.

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JPP's Jsak222 : 11:34 am 5th leg is probably as long as his arms and weighs about 15 pounds...

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Did he have that "change me into a fucking Centaur" surgery during the off-season?