up controversy is a common tactic for trying to generate interest in a story or a career. But this is really ridiculous. I will happily eat crow if I am wrong, but I would be very surprised if Bennett is lining up at TE on opening day against his former team.
He'll at least be good for blocking, which given the questions about the OL and the other TE options, they'll more than be able to put to good use.
That said, people probably wouldn't be bad off for reining in their homer-ized expectations about him suddenly becoming something that he never was in Dallas or in college just because he's a Giant now.
...was Bennett himself. It wasn't because he was behind Witten on the depth chart, it was because he didn't live up to expectations after they drafted him in the 2nd round. If he had, the Cowboys coaches would have found ways to use him.
The Giants are giving him a second chance on the hope that he has matured. Whether he seizes that opportunity or drops the ball once again is anybody's guess. Unfortunately, most people don't change. At least not for the better.
I'd like the 30 seconds of my life back for having to read that crap Â
Do you really think that will happen? And if the writer had an ounce of brains he would know someone with a hamstring injury is not going to go all out during a minicamp. What a waste
the author had no use for Bennett before he became a Giant and is still pursuing that line. Have to trust our coaching staff right now, not some guy with an axe to grind.
serviceable, probably very average receiving threat
anything more than that is a plus.
there is more to being a great receiver than tremendous size/strength/speed. Its learning how to box out defenders, come back to the ball, learning how to sink your hips, maximize your length, break off your routes sharp, do not drift/be lazy, etc. I could go on
Bennett came into the league extremely raw in all of those areas and needed coaching up. Greg Cosell thought Bennett would be a very good player if coached up. Unfortunately the guy the shittiest work ethic and personality you'll see on television in his rookie year.
The Giants will not cut him. We'll see if he can develop under Pope and realize his potential. He's already off to a bad start with the injuries and pope saying 291 pounds is too heavy for what they want him to be. Yikes!
was slacking off, the coaches would be all over him and making comments that he needs to step things up like they did with Sintim.
It could just as easily be argued that if he was slacking off, he could have used the hamstring as an excuse to ride a bike all camp rather than being on the field doing what he can.
they've played against him 2x a season for a few years now. They would not have persued him if they thought he was worthless. They know what he's capable of delivering and what they should expect. TC has no problem sending him to the bench when he doesn't give his best effort. And we know TC will do just that. Bennett could have sttod on his head in Dallas and spit wooden nickels and he still wasn't getting the nod over Witten.
If he wants a career in football he will have to work at it. If he is happy to take the 2.5 million and run than he will dog his way out of the NFL. Nobody but Bennet knows what he is thinking, certainly not this writer, but if he had hamstring issues than the coaches would likely tell him to go easy. The weight may me an issue but not until camp, he could come into camp heavier or he could shed some weight, that remains to be seen. How long has he had the hamstring issue? Didn't Nicks have a weight problem coming out of college because of a hamstring issue? You can make whatever you want of this stuff but I would wait until camp and the first exibition game before I started to judge this guy.
I've been as critical of Bennett as a Cowboy as anyone on this site, but Bennett hasn't been practicing because he tweaked his hamstring. Anyone who writes a story on him and doesn't recognize that, shouldn't be writing that story.
Secondly, way, way, way too much is being made out of the weight issue. Look at Bennett. He looks thin. He's a BIG, BIG man. Ballard was 285 and Bennett is bigger than him. Bennett actually dropped his body fat as he increased his weight. As he asked the reporters, "Do I look fat?"
Jints are not cutting Bennett to have Pascoe as the sole TE with any NFL experience on the roster who could play week 1. As much as they may like Hopkins and Robinson, it's not happening.
Plus, they love Pascoe's versatility and the ability to use him as a backup fullback behind Hynoski.
wWhen you begin the each year knowing that you are backing up a guy who catches 80-100 balls per year, that is tough. No matter what you do you cant be tha starter. plus they throw to to the WR.
he has major ability in passing and runninhe is making the team
Seriously, by most accounts this guy sounds like a lazy turd. Let's hope he's matured. I'd rather have an over achiever like Pascoe playing for the team I root for than an under achieving diva.
Even though Pro Football Focus gets little respect around here, they graded Bennett as the #1 blocking TE in the NFL last season. He is good at something the Giants value.
I was at an event this past Mon. I was with 3 of my friends and I saw this gentleman with this huge ring on. I looked closely and noticed the 4 Super Bowl trophies. He told me he has worked for the Giants for 20 years. He said he has never been around a bigger Primma Donna than Bennett. He said everything is an issue and everyting is a problem with this guy. I believe the writer, sounds to me the only reason Bennett has never made it further is Bennett himself.
isn't getting cut. Sorry, but with all due respect to the writer of that post, I think he's jumping to conclusions. For starters, the off-season was way shorter this year so new guys coming in had less time to work with the coaches on the play book. Second, if you're in your contract year and can't show your stuff due to an injury, well, yeah, you're going to be a little frustrated.
Third, what the blogger fails to take into consideration in trying to "decipher" Bennett's body language is that the guy was trying to work his way back from a hamstring. He could have sat out the entire spring with an eye toward getting healthy for camp, but gave it a go. And in giving it a go, he took things slow so as to not make the injury worse. How is that poor body language?
And here's something that the blogger didn't mention. Every day the media had access, I saw Bennett at his locker, his head in the play book. If that's a sign of someone who doesn't give a crap, then I'd like to see what someone who does give a crap looks like.
I respect others' opinions, but the idea of the team cutting Bennett just to pick up more draft picks next year is ludicrous. And as for him reportedly being a headache, trust me when I say that team has put up with bigger headaches in recent years and have done so with a smile so long as said headaches have produced.
I am not sure right that he's the long term answer, but I am interested to see what he brings to the table once camp starts.
It will be interesting to c which way giants go with their groundgame.
32nd will not be tolerated.
they want to go beatty-boothe-baas-snee-diehl.
they have an entire offseason to restructure the run game if it's a systematic problem. (they've re-designed their run plays in the offseason, before) for instance when shockey left they took the emphasis off the te at the p.o.a.
and started using boss out of a 2pt. stance when they could
what is interesting is they might have a better zone blocking OLine mixed with "power" players at supplemental blocking - TE martellus bennett and fb henry hynoski.
they may not have the power o.tackles
also at tailback, bradshaw, wilson and scott (and not jacobs) may be best in zone, using their cutback ability and vision to pick the best route
i'm sure theyll use a little of both styles but what will they lean on??
Wow I just watched this episode and the writer is totally on point about the helmet thing when with Dallas. Bennett at one point even sarcastically laughs at the Hard Knocks cameraman after Dallas TE coach was coaching him up. The coach walked away and he just laughed into the camera like "F this guy"
That was 4 years ago when he was a 22 year old rookie during pre-season. Since I'm sure way more than a few people have matured at least somewhat from age 22 to 26, I wouldn't rely on that show to consider Bennett a lazy turd at this point in his career. Reese & Coughlin interviewed him & were obviously happy enough w/ his maturity to sign him, so I'll go w/ their evaluation of him rather than some dipshits on message boards & blogs.
that people here feel that a reality TV show from 4 seasons ago is an useful tool to make an accurate judgement on a player's personality. Or even dumber, that most of us here will turn on our TV and agree with them
To me, it's a slam dunk: MB will thrive under Pope. Â
Im telling you he's going to be lining up as the starter week one. As someone said above, its hard to come to work everyday knowing you aren't going to contribute much. Look at what Shiancoe did in Minny after leaving the G-Men when he was playing behind Shockey. I think this guy is going to breakout. People forget how much Eli's ability will help him when he's route running. Who will be starting over him??? People say hes lazy and whatever but until I see it with him wearing Giant blue I wont take blogs and rumors into account. Dallas never used him bc they didnt have to. Their offense really doesnt use 2TE sets, relying on more WR's and Witten.
he wasn't really all that different 3 years ago either Â
But they couldn't. Because Bennett wasn't good enough to merit that type of focus, outside of his blocking abilities.
Frankly, while the Giants have a good QB, the Cowboys have a pretty good one in their own right -- there was no QBing issue in play to excuse why he was mostly a bust in Dallas. And Eli's not going to run the routes or catch the ball for him here (two things he had/has? problems with), as we've seen plenty of guys during this era struggle with those things. Pope, as good as he also is, isn't some guaranteed magician either.
He's not getting cut and he is going to see a lot of playing time if he's healthy, so this blogger is quite off-base, but really, so is a lot of the homerism shown in Bennett's favor now, as if he's suddenly a lock or even likely to be an entirely different player than he always has been, in both the pros and college, just because he's in blue -- if he was, he wouldn't be on a 1 year obvious show-me deal, given the current obsession with TEs.
why people start threads as if the "writer" is an actual writer is ridiculous - he is a fan just like you!
pat from inside football comes to this thread and gives information that real sportswriters get - from being in the locker room and around the team...you know, a person who actually has the job that the bloggers want but will never have
stop creating threads based on what bloggers write
i was referring to his personality and how he approaches the game with that, not his run blocking particularly
i was watching some of his youtube videos the other day and his personality didnt seem to be all that different than what he showed on hardknocks. except ofc that didn't include coaches asking him to run routes with effort or putting on his helmet
but yea id agree, he sounds like he has a strong reputation of superb run blocking
Cut Bennett so The Giants get a 7th Round comp pick for Tolly?
Was that the jib of the blog?
YIKES!
That said, people probably wouldn't be bad off for reining in their homer-ized expectations about him suddenly becoming something that he never was in Dallas or in college just because he's a Giant now.
Base salary: $975,000
Roster bonus: $87,500
Workout bonus: $50,000
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The Giants are giving him a second chance on the hope that he has matured. Whether he seizes that opportunity or drops the ball once again is anybody's guess. Unfortunately, most people don't change. At least not for the better.
anything more than that is a plus.
there is more to being a great receiver than tremendous size/strength/speed. Its learning how to box out defenders, come back to the ball, learning how to sink your hips, maximize your length, break off your routes sharp, do not drift/be lazy, etc. I could go on
Bennett came into the league extremely raw in all of those areas and needed coaching up. Greg Cosell thought Bennett would be a very good player if coached up. Unfortunately the guy the shittiest work ethic and personality you'll see on television in his rookie year.
The Giants will not cut him. We'll see if he can develop under Pope and realize his potential. He's already off to a bad start with the injuries and pope saying 291 pounds is too heavy for what they want him to be. Yikes!
It could just as easily be argued that if he was slacking off, he could have used the hamstring as an excuse to ride a bike all camp rather than being on the field doing what he can.
Secondly, way, way, way too much is being made out of the weight issue. Look at Bennett. He looks thin. He's a BIG, BIG man. Ballard was 285 and Bennett is bigger than him. Bennett actually dropped his body fat as he increased his weight. As he asked the reporters, "Do I look fat?"
Plus, they love Pascoe's versatility and the ability to use him as a backup fullback behind Hynoski.
he has major ability in passing and runninhe is making the team
Maybe this is what he needs a chance to prove himself
with Eli and a fresh start .
:-(
Third, what the blogger fails to take into consideration in trying to "decipher" Bennett's body language is that the guy was trying to work his way back from a hamstring. He could have sat out the entire spring with an eye toward getting healthy for camp, but gave it a go. And in giving it a go, he took things slow so as to not make the injury worse. How is that poor body language?
And here's something that the blogger didn't mention. Every day the media had access, I saw Bennett at his locker, his head in the play book. If that's a sign of someone who doesn't give a crap, then I'd like to see what someone who does give a crap looks like.
I respect others' opinions, but the idea of the team cutting Bennett just to pick up more draft picks next year is ludicrous. And as for him reportedly being a headache, trust me when I say that team has put up with bigger headaches in recent years and have done so with a smile so long as said headaches have produced.
I am not sure right that he's the long term answer, but I am interested to see what he brings to the table once camp starts.
32nd will not be tolerated.
they want to go beatty-boothe-baas-snee-diehl.
they have an entire offseason to restructure the run game if it's a systematic problem. (they've re-designed their run plays in the offseason, before) for instance when shockey left they took the emphasis off the te at the p.o.a.
and started using boss out of a 2pt. stance when they could
what is interesting is they might have a better zone blocking OLine mixed with "power" players at supplemental blocking - TE martellus bennett and fb henry hynoski.
they may not have the power o.tackles
also at tailback, bradshaw, wilson and scott (and not jacobs) may be best in zone, using their cutback ability and vision to pick the best route
i'm sure theyll use a little of both styles but what will they lean on??
but i guess between 2010 and 2012 he went thru great maturity and his approach to the game took a 180. Certainly plausible
But I'll believe it when I see it
Frankly, while the Giants have a good QB, the Cowboys have a pretty good one in their own right -- there was no QBing issue in play to excuse why he was mostly a bust in Dallas. And Eli's not going to run the routes or catch the ball for him here (two things he had/has? problems with), as we've seen plenty of guys during this era struggle with those things. Pope, as good as he also is, isn't some guaranteed magician either.
He's not getting cut and he is going to see a lot of playing time if he's healthy, so this blogger is quite off-base, but really, so is a lot of the homerism shown in Bennett's favor now, as if he's suddenly a lock or even likely to be an entirely different player than he always has been, in both the pros and college, just because he's in blue -- if he was, he wouldn't be on a 1 year obvious show-me deal, given the current obsession with TEs.
pat from inside football comes to this thread and gives information that real sportswriters get - from being in the locker room and around the team...you know, a person who actually has the job that the bloggers want but will never have
stop creating threads based on what bloggers write
i was watching some of his youtube videos the other day and his personality didnt seem to be all that different than what he showed on hardknocks. except ofc that didn't include coaches asking him to run routes with effort or putting on his helmet
but yea id agree, he sounds like he has a strong reputation of superb run blocking
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