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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/29/2012 8:14 am
Practice from 1:00-3:30PM.
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Nevermind  
UberAlias : 7/29/2012 2:16 pm : link
I don't disagree with what you are saying. Of course if the Giants had some major mismatch at TE they would use him.

But the other end of it, which is my point, is that having that stud pass catching TE is not a necessity for this offense. The offense can run pretty darn well with guys who can block and run good routes and doen't require a guy who is a major mismatch physically. Other teams covet that kind of player at the TE position more than ours does. This is IMO, based on what we have seen from the FO.
Uber  
Neverend : 7/29/2012 2:19 pm : link
I agree with your position. My reservations are more towrads those who feel if the giants DID have that type of talent at TE, they wouldn't use it which was frequently stated a lot a few months ago
Paysinger????  
gonelikejacobs : 7/29/2012 2:23 pm : link
Why not J.WILLIAMS?
The cap  
Torn Tendon : 7/29/2012 2:26 pm : link
has been tight so that's prevented them from getting an already established talent at TE. There hasn't been an early round TE that's been BPA when they've drafted. Beckum's been slower to develop and had many injuries too.

They're trying to develop a stud TE but it hasn't happened and the team made Boss look better than he was so he got an offer the Giants couldn't match.
Uber  
CarsHURT'86 : 7/29/2012 2:27 pm : link
I think the addition of Bennett and the drafting of A. Robinson shows that they are trying to improve the athletic pass catching ability type of guy.

We will never know how they had Fleener graded, but you can bet that if they felt he could become a Gates, Gonzo etc they would have drafted him.

Maybe it has more to do with upgrading the running game, or that they were extremely high on Wilson.

I have to admit I am excited about our new TE's and Wilson in the 1st.

Wilson really seems like he is a perfect fit for the G-men, he just has a great attitude and I would be surprised to see this kid make headlines for off the field issues.

Over the next couple of years we are going to see more talent coming out of the college ranks at TE.
Let's not forget that they drafted the JPP of tight ends.  
Klaatu : 7/29/2012 2:28 pm : link
Obviously, they have high hopes for Adrien Robinson. Let's see how he develops.
depth chart  
GiantsFan84 : 7/29/2012 2:31 pm : link
i wouldn't look too much into it yet. as a fan you have no idea why the coaches put people in and don't put people in.

putting paysinger in with the ones could be as simple as seeing what he can do since he is a bubble guy as opposed to someone like williams who isn't. i'm not saying that's their reason for it, but as an outsider looking in you have no idea of these things.
Update  
Defenderdawg : 7/29/2012 2:33 pm : link
Ohm Youngmisukþ@NotoriousOHM

Bradshaw had a nice run on left side. He says he's feeling great. Looks like it so far
CBS sportsline on Barden  
Defenderdawg : 7/29/2012 2:35 pm : link
http://www.cbssports.com/general/blog/nfl-rapidreports/19682047/giants-ramses-barden-presented-with-opportunity
Cars  
UberAlias : 7/29/2012 2:38 pm : link
Fair enoguh. I think they would like to have such a guy, but it does not strike me as a priority compared to other things. Bennett they may see potential, but has proven little pass catching-wise. Robinson, yes, but only in time. If it was a critical element to the offense, you handle it differnetly. Their not making a stronger push for Boss and rolling the dice with Ballard are noteworthy. Not that they are elite guys, but more proven than what else was on the roster at the time.



Wilson has moves  
Defenderdawg : 7/29/2012 2:40 pm : link
Ohm Youngmisukþ@NotoriousOHM

Tyler Sash makes diving catch on pass by David Carr. Play before Wilson made Steve Brown miss by completely stopping and bending backward
More Ohm  
Defenderdawg : 7/29/2012 2:43 pm : link
Ohm Youngmisukþ@NotoriousOHM

Randle makes a catch across middle on Hosley. Paysinger working with 1st team at OLB for Boley. jones moves to 2nd team OLB with Rivers out
Douglas...Herzlich  
Defenderdawg : 7/29/2012 2:45 pm : link
Ohm Youngmisukþ@NotoriousOHM

David Douglas has three nice catches so far. Also, defense tries Herzlich at OLB on 3rd team in addition to MLB on 2nd team with 2 LBs out
I'm at practice right now  
Kyle in NY : 7/29/2012 2:46 pm : link
Perilloux was impressive in his time with the offense just now. He can really throw it. I know the staff does like him.
You can't look at stats in a vacuum.  
Klaatu : 7/29/2012 2:49 pm : link
Perhaps if our TEs had been better run blockers, there would have been fewer pass plays called on, say, 2nd & long, 3rd & long, out of necessity.

Also, just because a TE went out for a pass, doesn't mean he didn't have to hit someone on his way out. I don't know how you'd measure that, or gauge its effectiveness.

Finally, we may not have a Gronk/Hernandez or Jimmy Graham, but no one else has The Hynocerous, our not-so-secret weapon.
Salsa  
Defenderdawg : 7/29/2012 2:54 pm : link
Mike Garafoloþ@MikeGarafolo

Corey Webster picks off Eli for Cruz by winning a jump ball. "Salsa that!" says Rolle. #nyg
Bennett makes a catch  
Defenderdawg : 7/29/2012 2:56 pm : link
Ohm Youngmisukþ@NotoriousOHM

More 7 on 7: Jernigan makes catch past Thomas. Bennett with a catch on left side as well
Bennett was covered well  
Kyle in NY : 7/29/2012 2:59 pm : link
but Eli threw him open on that catch. It was a nice play.
wait a tick.  
gonelikejacobs : 7/29/2012 2:59 pm : link
Wilson stopped dead in his tracks to bend backwards like Neo and made a guy whiff! Im pumped to watch this kid!
Who's Wilson's position coach?  
Klaatu : 7/29/2012 3:01 pm : link
The Road Runner? Meep Meep
Stanback. DePalma  
Defenderdawg : 7/29/2012 3:02 pm : link
Ohm Youngmisukþ@NotoriousOHM

Isaiah Stanback and Dan DePalma make catches in 7 on 7. Herzlich breaks up pass for Pascoe to Perry Fewell's delight
Kyle  
Neverend : 7/29/2012 3:06 pm : link
Where are you seeing that about Bennett? Its on TV?
I love rooting for the underdogs...  
Klaatu : 7/29/2012 3:06 pm : link
The late-round picks, the UDFAs, the vets trying for one last hurrah...but I don't think I've ever rooted harder for a kid to make it than I am for Mark Herzlich.
I'm at practice  
Kyle in NY : 7/29/2012 3:07 pm : link
.
Ah, I see  
Neverend : 7/29/2012 3:07 pm : link
thanks for the info
Thomas  
Defenderdawg : 7/29/2012 3:09 pm : link
Ebenezer Samuelþ@ebenezersamuel

Thomas is not scrimmaging. Seems to be icing knee
Trainers were looking at T2's knee on the side  
Kyle in NY : 7/29/2012 3:09 pm : link
No worries though, looks like he's alright. Moving around fine on the sideline. Coe in for him on defense now though
Thanks Kyle  
Defenderdawg : 7/29/2012 3:12 pm : link
for giving us live updates

Ohm Youngmisukþ@NotoriousOHM

Tuck blows up running play in backfield. Tuck also batted down a screen pass as well On a previous play, Rogers appeared to stuff a run.
Nevermind  
UberAlias : 7/29/2012 3:13 pm : link
Agreed.
Might be too much info  
Kyle in NY : 7/29/2012 3:13 pm : link
But Buce Johnson is currently vomiting on the sideline after coming off during the scrimmage. He took reps at Thomas' spot
No problem, fellas  
Kyle in NY : 7/29/2012 3:14 pm : link
Good to have the Giants back
Klaatu...  
BMac : 7/29/2012 3:15 pm : link
...The way Herzlich has been playing so far, I think begs the question of just how much rooting for he needs. I think, barring injury, he's a dead lock to make the team and, before the year is out, to start at MLB.

Also, I think he's just started to get really healthy and is going to get much, much better than he is now.
Kyle  
Klaatu : 7/29/2012 3:16 pm : link
It's only too much information if you go into detail about the vomit itself.
Opinion on Herzlich from Dottino just now  
Defenderdawg : 7/29/2012 3:17 pm : link
GiantsWFANþ@giantswfan

suspect he will overtake chase during season RT @shamron137 @giantswfan I heard Herzlich looks much better this year. Good enough to start?
Props to Greg Jones  
Defenderdawg : 7/29/2012 3:18 pm : link
Mike Garafoloþ@MikeGarafolo

Two straight excellent practices for LB Greg Jones, who seems to have adjusted well to the move from MLB to OLB. #nyg
BMac  
Klaatu : 7/29/2012 3:19 pm : link
From your mouth to God's ears.
Randle  
Defenderdawg : 7/29/2012 3:24 pm : link
Mike Garafoloþ@MikeGarafolo

Rueben Randle has taken his jersey and pads off. Has a towel on his back. If I were to guess, I'd say he's overheated. #nyg
You would think an LSU kid would be used to the heat.  
Klaatu : 7/29/2012 3:26 pm : link
Must be all that residual heat from burning our DBs.

Ha! I kill me.
Bennett in the passing game  
Defenderdawg : 7/29/2012 3:27 pm : link

Ohm Youngmisukþ@NotoriousOHM

Martellus Bennett catches a hard and high throw from Eli Manning for a TD on Phillips. Used his size and hands

1m Ebenezer Samuelþ@ebenezersamuel

Bennett takes lessons from polar bears, catches TD over middle from Eli with Phillips in coverage
Stanback  
Defenderdawg : 7/29/2012 3:28 pm : link
Ohm Youngmisukþ@NotoriousOHM

Stanback finally drops a pass. Is having a good practice with several catches.
Douglas  
Defenderdawg : 7/29/2012 3:31 pm : link
Ohm Youngmisukþ@NotoriousOHM

And David Douglas continues his solid practice with a TD catch on Bing in back of end zone.
Our dump off offense should be much improved  
SGMen : 7/29/2012 3:31 pm : link
Hyno and Wilson look to add a new phase to our pass game. If Bennett develops into a reliable receiver by mid-season we will be able to chuck the ball anywhere we want.

Also, I am loving the positive pub on our LB's. If Herzlich starts at some point and is a true upgrade over Chase we are just that much better at a position where we took a beating at most of last year. Chase was fresh which helped when he came and saved us. Honestly, I am not sure we make the playoffs last year without Chase's work at MLB - it was that much of an upgrade.

If Jones has really turned the corner and is a player it only helps as well since he is already a superb special teams player. So far, camp is going well for the Giants.

I just don't want to see or hear about any injuries!
If Herzlich starts...  
BMac : 7/29/2012 3:36 pm : link
...over an uninjured Blackburn it is, by definition, an upgrade. Why else would the Giants' make such a move?
Jones deserves to be graded on this  
section125 : 7/29/2012 3:38 pm : link
year's camp. Throwing a rookie MLB on the field without any OTA and limited camp is a recipe for disaster. Speaks well of his effort that he lasted as long as it did before he was wisely replaced. The Giants love players that can play multiple positions, so it can only help to learn OLB too. He was a tackling machine at Mich St.
Update on Rivers and Boley  
Defenderdawg : 7/29/2012 3:42 pm : link
Mike Garafoloþ@MikeGarafolo

Per Coughlin, Boley has a "little hamstring (injury)." Same for Rivers. Trattou MRI tonight. T. Thomas left early to manage his knee. #nyg
Ohm  
Defenderdawg : 7/29/2012 3:43 pm : link

Ohm Youngmisukþ@NotoriousOHM

Coughlin says Greg Jones has practiced well last few days and can play outside and inside.

1m Ohm Youngmisukþ@NotoriousOHM

Coughlin says Boley has a hamstring issue. May take a few days. Rivers' hamstring kept him out today too.
Coughlin on Herzlich  
Defenderdawg : 7/29/2012 3:45 pm : link
Ohm Youngmisukþ@NotoriousOHM

On Herzlich, Coughlin says he is moving well, focused and has no issues other than wanting to be on field more.
Jones  
Headhunter : 7/29/2012 3:45 pm : link
played well on Specials in the Playoffs. Rooting for him
Coughlin on Bennett, practice  
Defenderdawg : 7/29/2012 3:47 pm : link

Mike Garafoloþ@MikeGarafolo

Coughlin says the contact will be increased tomorrow. Half-pads practice. They've been in shells so far. #nyg

43s Ohm Youngmisukþ@NotoriousOHM

Coughlin says good to see Bennett healthy and making a couple of plays
Randle  
Defenderdawg : 7/29/2012 3:49 pm : link
Mike Garafoloþ@MikeGarafolo

Randle "was tired ... ran out of gas." #refuel #nyg
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