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Congratulations Perry Fewell!!!!!

Joey in VA : 11/12/2012 1:24 pm
Thanks a ton for that 3-4 look with JPP at ILB and Osi at RDE that left a hole you could have driven John Holmes through with no pain. Brilliant way to use your best edge rusher, on the fucking inside. I'm also pretty happy with how you haven't closed down the zone coverage at all and moved your safeties closer towards the hash marks and 2-3 yards further up the field like a real Cover 2 would, you don't need to study what a shitty team like the Bears do on offense, and certainly you wouldn't want to pattern anything after the Steelers and their rolled up C-2. Be your own man!!!

And Corey Webster being totally flummoxed 9 weeks into the season against the opponents best player? Bravo sir, why on Earth would he want to waste time playing defense when standing still is just as easy and the results are the same? I'm also particularly proud of how wide you allow your worst DL to play outside at RDE, why use gap discipline when Osi can fly upfield 8 yards past the QB and have a nice view of the Cincinnati 100 sections which are chock full of tubby midwestern goodness. Kudos as well for allowing teams free reign over the middle as you did in week one Vs. Dallas and continue to do in week 10. I predicted the night prior to the opener that our biggest issue would be deep and medium middle because you don't press your CBs, your LBs don't sink well enough usually (save for one play in the Super Bowl) and you love to stunt your tall athletic DEs inside or play them at DT so there is no WAY they could affect the wide open passing lanes that have existed since you got here.

Pressure? You don't need no stinking pressure, just send a 265 slow footed LB on a..delayed blitz on Osi's inside shoulder, that should work because the two guys who had to block #72 are really bored as he runs himself outside of the play by ignoring essentially 3 gaps at once. A gap blitz with a fast LB because double teams are aimed at JPP? Noooo JPP is inside or at LB or ..where is he?? that's a fun game. Using the talent you have at DE to open up the inside to LB, S, CB blitzes would be silly, you just keep looping them around like very slow flies swarming a carcass they may or may not want to eat. Most coaches would have watched tape, adjusted or gone back to the basics of the Cover 2 that you learned but not you big guy. You just won't let anyone dampen your creative spirit, now matter how badly you fingerpaint a all over our defense.

In your defense, you don't have much to work with, only 4 All Pro players, and certainly no high draft picks, I mean Corey Webster was a 2nd round pick...what a LOSER, Phillips, Rolle and Amukamara are all #1s so trust me pal, I feel your pain. Your DL?? Big money on Chris Canty, Rocky Bernard, premium picks in Kiwi, Tuck, Osi, JPP, Linval Joseph but your hands are tied by that confounded Jerry Reese who just keeps stockpiling OL players but won't even look to the DL or secondary. He sure never got you any LBs, he didn't sign a high priced one, draft 3, trade for another and dust one off and buff him to a big white shine so he could rescue you in the Super Bowl. What are you supposed to do when you have no talent, and the front office does nothing to help your side of the ball at all. Stay strong Perry, you'll show those bastards.
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After a four turnover game  
BigBlueBuff : 11/13/2012 9:33 am : link
you don't understand how a poor offense might hurt the defense and why it is relevent? Really?
The defense hasn't looked good.  
arcarsenal : 11/13/2012 9:35 am : link
No one will argue that. But the reason I even brought the offense up is because they've been completely unable to sustain drives which has made the defenses job more difficult.

When the offense repeatedly goes 3 and out or turns the ball over, you increase the odds of the other team scoring and that's what we've seen happen. If the offense can sustain more drives and be more efficient in the red zone, the defense will benefit. It all goes hand in hand. It's not a matter of singling out each unit as much as it is pointing out that they each effect the other. And right now, neither is playing well. Thus, ugly losses and terrible football.
This is not a defense built to stand on it's own.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/13/2012 9:41 am : link
It's a defense built to protect leads. They allow a ton of yards, so putting them in short field situations constantly is disastrous.
The Giants were down 17-6  
dep026 : 11/13/2012 10:00 am : link
before their first turnover. The defense was putrid in the first half and was as much a reason why we were losing.
again offense for the most part has been good during the  
chris r : 11/13/2012 10:06 am : link
Gilbride regime. The opposite is true under PF.

Sounds more like your perception than anything else.  
arcarsenal : 11/13/2012 10:12 am : link
How true was that in 2010?
dep  
Les in TO : 11/13/2012 10:12 am : link
one play was the miscommunication on the td pass to green and the other was a td after the pacman return to the 10 yard line.

hopefully the communication gets cleared up/defense simplified and having kenny phillips/rivers or williams back on the field will improve run defense and elimination of the deepballs/miscommunications.
And dep...  
arcarsenal : 11/13/2012 10:15 am : link
No, the offense hadn't turned it over yet at that point but we did give up a huge punt return that gave the D a real short field prior to the 2nd TD. And obviously the 2 Eli turnovers a little later on did the same thing.
Why would Fewell revert back  
ghost718 : 11/13/2012 10:18 am : link
Why did Bill Sheridan come in and say we're going to do things my way now,after the success of Spagnuolo.

The same reason,ego.Maybe a little bit of stubbornness.Perhaps Fewell is conscious of how it would look to teams who are considering him as a head coach.I believe he did come out and deny he even made significant changes last year.


Arc  
dep026 : 11/13/2012 10:22 am : link
the bengals didnt punt once in the first half. Drive logs:

79 yards - TD
11 Yards - TD
49 yards - loss of downs
60 yards - FG

Now the only POSITIVE thing shown there is a loss of downs. And it was a 11 play drive, took time off the clock. Good defense makes stops. I believe part of the problem with the offense is that it never gets into a rhythm.

And even the 11 yard drive, we had them 3rd and 10 - and we still couldnt stop it. Defense is a huge problem. Always has been, always will be.
So let me get this straight...  
arcarsenal : 11/13/2012 10:23 am : link
Perry Fewell knows that he can simplify the D, get much better results and be considered a real good DC as a result which could yield either an extension or a straight up head coaching offer somewhere else but because of his "ego" he has decided against it?

I mean, this logic just makes no sense to me at all.
You have to remember  
ghost718 : 11/13/2012 10:28 am : link
Logic and Perry Fewell don't go together,it's an oxymoron.
Dep...  
arcarsenal : 11/13/2012 10:28 am : link
I see one bad drive there. The long TD drive.

I can't kill a defense for giving up a TD when the team starts on OUR 11.

Forcing a turnover on downs and holding a team to 3 are fine.
I see 3`  
dep026 : 11/13/2012 10:36 am : link
A 15 plays 60 yard drive for a FG is not good defense.
A 11 play 50 yard that results a loss of down isnt good either.

Two drives that take up 12 minutes is not good defense. Good defense know how to get off the field.
This is untrue  
dep026 : 11/13/2012 10:37 am : link
Quote:
Forcing a turnover on downs and holding a team to 3 are fine.


These two drives took up 14 minutes of the first half. How can an offense get ANY rhythm when they are not on the field? Getting 3 and outs are good results.
You don't expect a defense to allow drives like that...  
arcarsenal : 11/13/2012 10:39 am : link
....throughout the course of a football game? I can pull up a box score from any NFL game more or less and find drives like those given up by either defense.

We're 12th in points allowed, were creating more turnovers than any other team. I'm annoyed by the blown assignments and lack of pressure and we need to be better. But it's not like we are giving up TDs every single time the D takes the field.
The lack of rhythm generated by the offense...  
arcarsenal : 11/13/2012 10:41 am : link
....is also the fault of the offense. All of the 3 and outs and turnovers aren't the defenses fault.
FUCKING AWESOME  
GiantTuff1 : 11/13/2012 10:41 am : link
fewell plays passive like a pussy. I would rather get beat one on one cause our guys suck, but I want to rip my hair out with this pussy footing overthinking dog shit that takes the fate out of the hands of our players individual talents.

Hey Perry, just cause your making millions, doesn't mean you have to try to force people to think your brilliant through your schemes.

It's NOT ABOUT YOU DUDE.

Arc  
dep026 : 11/13/2012 10:45 am : link
even on the FG drive, it wasnt the defense that stopped the Bengals. AJ Green was WIDE open for an easy TD but Dalton missed him. So, its not like the defense stepped up and made a stop.

And yes you can expect offense to make long drives like that. But the Bengals were 3 for 3 in the first half. We didnt stop them once. A good/great defense forces 3 and outs. A good defense doesnt get field position flipped on them continuously.

This is about the 4th or 5th time this season where our opponent hasnt punted in a half. That is very bad. I am not absolving the offense, since they have been putrid. But its tough when you only get 2-3 chances to score in a half. Momentum is very big in football, and BOTH the offense and the defense do a bad job of maintaining it.

The thing is the defense has been doing it for 3 years, while the offense has been doing it for 3 games. Relying on other teams to make mistakes is very dangerous.
i dont see why people are constantly bringing up the offense  
Mighty : 11/13/2012 11:24 am : link
This isnt about the past three games but the entire body of Fewell's work. Nobody is giving the offense a free pass for sucking the past few weeks but this is about more than the past few weeks. Look at the resources devoted to the defense and the resources devoted to the offense and the results and you will see a defense that isnt meeting the expectations and resources its been given.

And ill say it again. its been documented in articles that the 2 years prior the players have gone to Fewell and asked for the simplification and after its done our defense has played better. Earlier this year we heard grumblings from Webster about the scheme again. If people want to wait till our backs are totally against the wall yet again to call for a change then thats your choice but that just doesnt make any sense to me.
we  
area junc : 11/13/2012 12:41 pm : link
still have a bullet in the chamber : a package that we haven't been able to use yet due to injury. the 'bison package' a big nickel 3 S alignment like we did last year

the starting D-Line

Boley and Rivers at LB

webster - rolle - prince at CB

brown + phillips deep


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this accomplishes getting hosley off the field for the stretch run (like they did with prince last year). too many mistakes from him - put it in the hands of the vets. jayron's day will come

this includes putting kiwi in the defensive end rotation

boley + rivers gives u tremendous range, instincts and tackling ability at linebacker

get ur best players on the field, in position, to defend the belt. if rivers keeps going down, hopefully j-will is ready to step in, but they really need to get the same 11 guys stringing practices together
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Joey in VA : 11/13/2012 12:44 pm : link
That 11 would make me one happy mfer..
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Johnny5 : 11/13/2012 12:48 pm : link
Yeah I like that idea. One thing I'm struggling with, that seems similar to what we ran against SF so successfully. Why the hell did we go away from what we did v San Francisco?
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Mighty : 11/13/2012 12:55 pm : link
i love that lineup in a 2nd and 10+ or 3rd and 8+ situation. It would be pretty vulnerable to the inside run in most other situations though but against a 3 WR set in passing situations it would be dominant.
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