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Eli's 2012 Performance... Does Anyone Believe...

M.S. : 12/22/2012 11:05 am
...even believe to a very small degree... even an infinitesimal degree, that the downturn in his performance this season is in some strange way related to the superb comeback year of his older brother?

This isn't an objective, factual issue, but rather one that falls under the rubric of subjective/psychological. It's as though his older brother has come back to grab the limelight while Eli comfortably (or not so comfortably) regresses to the Eli of old-- the over-shadowed, younger brother who is "up-and-down" in his weekly performance.

Clearly, there are much more rational, objective reasons, such as Hakeem Nicks at half strength, shakier offensive line and/or defensive coordinators who have figured out how to defend last season's lethal Giants' attack.

No.  
Big Blue '56 : 12/22/2012 11:06 am : link
Sandy and Sandy Hook quite possibly
No  
rdt288 : 12/22/2012 11:08 am : link
Sandy rocked this area as well as this team for a while.
No  
Buck Dharma : 12/22/2012 11:09 am : link
I think it's the much more rational reasons that you mentioned.
No, not one bit  
nyynyg : 12/22/2012 11:09 am : link
It is barely spoken bout in the media as well

If I was going to surmise anything, I think it was all the elite talk. It seems once the media starting saying "hey, he is elite, he may be the best QB in the league right now", everything went to crap for him. Maybe that got in his head and he started pressing and trying to live up to the billing of the elite claim.

Anyway, total speculation if I was going to throw an unfounded speculation into the wind. Which is about as much as it is worth..
why are we looking for reasons for Eli's inconsistancy  
chris r : 12/22/2012 11:09 am : link
when he's been consistently inconsistent for most of his career.

This is just Eli.
Hate to say it  
Blue Baller : 12/22/2012 11:11 am : link
but maybe last year and 2009 are the outliers and this year is the norm?
Chris  
nyynyg : 12/22/2012 11:12 am : link
I think it is fair to say Eli has been playing to the level of inconsistent Eli in the last few weeks.
A number of guys  
BigBlueinSoFl : 12/22/2012 11:12 am : link
already stated that Sandy has had an effect on the team, I would imagine that the sandy hook ordeal hasn't helped them at all towards recovering mentally.
Sorry  
nyynyg : 12/22/2012 11:13 am : link
Meant hasn't. He hasn't played even decent in a few of the games.
nyynyg  
chris r : 12/22/2012 11:16 am : link
Eli has usually been up and down throughout a season. This is nothing new or out of the ordinary, which is why I think looking for external excuses like his big bro or Sandy is silly. Eli has been inconsistent for most of his career.
chris, Humor me for just 2  
Big Blue '56 : 12/22/2012 11:18 am : link
more games and hopefully the playoffs and then we can revisit the totality of it? ;)
I don't know  
nyynyg : 12/22/2012 11:18 am : link
Maybe I've gotten used to god Eli. Lately I think he has played below his inconsistent level, certain games like last week, outright bad.
BB56  
nyynyg : 12/22/2012 11:19 am : link
Good point
I don't think Eli lets anything get in the way of his silent  
carpoon : 12/22/2012 11:19 am : link
determination to succeed. A lot of his performance this year is simply an offensive line that has weakened in both protection and run blocking plus receivers that get very little separation. This along with his sometime lack of accuracy. Although, IMHO, he is very accurate 95% of the time.

I don't read anything else in to his less than perfect performance.
No sorry but that is ludicrous..  
JCin332 : 12/22/2012 11:19 am : link
he has been hampered by inconsistent OL play, Nicks injury, no reliable 3rd WR stepping up and the rest of the league succesfully scheming against what has been one of the most prolific offenses in the NFL..

In no particular order..and as other have said throw in Sandy and Newtown..
BB56  
chris r : 12/22/2012 11:21 am : link
Fingers crossed :)
Yo radar when you use a smiley  
Ash : 12/22/2012 11:22 am : link
a bit of my faith in humanity is restored
Its more  
area junc : 12/22/2012 11:22 am : link
That peyton doesnt have time to break his opponents down anymore
....  
BrettNYG10 : 12/22/2012 11:28 am : link
Can't tell what's stupider: the original post or area junc's last post.
Ash  
chris r : 12/22/2012 11:29 am : link
I do what I can.
Peyton  
area junc : 12/22/2012 11:30 am : link
Helped eli every single week last year..that is a fact
No. Not in the least.  
BoldRuler : 12/22/2012 11:30 am : link
.
Seriously?  
Moondwg : 12/22/2012 11:33 am : link
.
I don't believe  
PaulBlakeTSU : 12/22/2012 11:39 am : link
that Sandy or Sandy Hook affected this team on the football field and I think it's a cop out and a little shameful if players attribute any of their lackluster performance to it.
area junc,  
BrettNYG10 : 12/22/2012 11:41 am : link
You're a joke of a poster, which is why you got banned under your old handle. Stop falsely acting as if you have inside information. You probably should have been banned after insinuating one of our players took drugs prior to a game.
Paul,  
Big Blue '56 : 12/22/2012 11:41 am : link
You KNOW Eli never would
No -  
mjt832 : 12/22/2012 11:42 am : link
It is the curse of the BBI trophy for the palyer of the year.

The season is not over yet, We were in the exact same position (record wise) at this time last year.
Eli  
stretch234 : 12/22/2012 11:47 am : link
maybe the fact that thier best receiver is hurt putting more pressure on Cruz. The 3rd receiver is essentially new having missed last year. A new TE and injured RB.

I think he is fine.
..  
Named Later : 12/22/2012 11:51 am : link
I think Eli misses Mike Sullivan in a bigger way than we appreciate. Sully has got Josh Freeman putting up pretty decent numbers this year.

Teams are  
BreakFree2Tyree : 12/22/2012 12:32 pm : link
taking Cruz out of the game, and the offensive line has not pass protected as well.

Give me Nicks and Snee at 100% all year with Locklear at tackle instead of Diehl, and Eli has a tremendous season.
Eli may not be consistent  
vibe4giants : 12/22/2012 12:34 pm : link
but M.S. sure is.
MS  
Bradshaw #44 : 12/22/2012 12:44 pm : link
your daily negative thought process threads has been in rare form this week.
vibe4giants & Bradshaw #44...  
M.S. : 12/22/2012 1:00 pm : link

...where's the love?

Merry Christmas.
No  
bigblueviator : 12/22/2012 1:03 pm : link
I think the QB coach has been lax on pointing out his awful footwork and letting him get away with bad decisions without taking him to the woodshed for it because of what Eli did last year.
area junk has inside info, guys.  
arcarsenal : 12/22/2012 1:06 pm : link
I think we should listen to him.
no  
oipolloi : 12/22/2012 1:09 pm : link
i believe it's due to injuries to his receivers and a deteriorating OL

and also to the staff's decision to compensate by going with the running game rather than a more spread offense. It remains to be seen whether the "balanced approach" gets the Giants into the postseason and beyond, but there is absolutely no doubt whatsoever that it has hurt Eli's numbers

But Eli also has no else to blame other than himself. If Giants had taken the ball out of Peyton's hands to give it to Bradshaw/Hynoski, Peyton would have been in their face. Eli isn't like that, which is both good and bad.
This is a typical Eli season  
moespree : 12/22/2012 1:15 pm : link
I actually don't think there is anything inconsistent about it. Last season was clearly the career year thus far. Perhaps he will top 2011 at some point in the future...certainly a possibility.

But this is the typical career trajectory of Eli so far in his seasons.
Nope. One iota.  
LauderdaleMatty : 12/22/2012 1:17 pm : link
Shitty beyond belief OL. Bradshaw's inability to practice and ijuries, injuries to WRs and MM leaving.

IMO next year if they can just be a middle of the pack OL and Bennett stays and Randall and Wilson have a full year under their belts we will see a better Eli.

I'm not absolving him of some bad decsions and crappy play but the OL is just as bad if not worse than last year at this point. Eli got the shit kicked out of him but he had better WRs, better TEs, and a better situation at RB. He's trying to make chicken salad out of chicken shit. Just not happening this year.
No,  
AnishPatel : 12/22/2012 1:20 pm : link
there are a bunch of factors I believe that attributed to this. I don't think the lime light or anything has to do with it.
A picture is worth a thousand words  
Neverend : 12/22/2012 1:22 pm : link
Sums it up
????????  
Doomster : 12/22/2012 1:44 pm : link
Has the OL underperformed?

Has our running game faltered?

Has the loss of Mario hurt?

Did we handle the Nicks situation right?

Three yeses and a no........

But Eli has had an off year, too....there is plenty of blame to go around......
Injuries at WR, lack of protection & Sullivan's departure  
GloryDayz : 12/22/2012 3:27 pm : link
Are more likely reason.... not in any order BTW
Even in the Super Bowl seasons  
Mike in Boston : 12/22/2012 5:53 pm : link
Eli tended to put together a run of bad games.
Think about how Brees and Rogers played against the Giants  
oipolloi : 12/22/2012 6:06 pm : link
In fact, Rogers last two games agst them are basically horrific.

Does that mean those guys are not elite?

Injuries, a bad OL--same thing as happened with Eli.
.....  
BrettNYG10 : 12/22/2012 9:36 pm : link
Quote:
vibe4giants & Bradshaw #44...
M.S. : 1:00 pm

...where's the love?

Merry Christmas.


They're helping you out by pointing out how stupid you are. It's a favor.
Sandy cost us the Cincy game. we did not show up.  
SGMen : 12/23/2012 12:26 am : link
Not saying we would have won if not for the storm but no way it helped.
BrettNYG10...  
M.S. : 12/23/2012 8:08 am : link
...do you feel better now?

Good.
No.  
Randy in CT : 12/23/2012 8:13 am : link
Players have better years than others and then the multitude of factors like O-line play, WRs health, threat of a rushing game all contribute.

But Eli isn't performing as well as last year.
YET  
Big Blue '56 : 12/23/2012 8:18 am : link
.
Payton's return?  
mrvax : 12/23/2012 8:27 am : link
No. Sandy? I doubt it.
Poor pass blocking? Maybe, just maybe. I wonder...
Dopey  
mrvax : 12/23/2012 8:29 am : link
Peyton's return.
i dont like to just hate on threads...  
hitdog42 : 12/23/2012 8:31 am : link
but this one i awful.
Not related at all.  
section125 : 12/23/2012 8:35 am : link
Biggest factor is Nicks being hurt. I cannot even blame the OLine too much (some) as Eli was chased around last year as many here pointed out ad nauseum through 2011.
Cruz's spectacular year may have helped gloss over some flaws last year too with all the short passes going for TDs.
I wouldn't include the loss of MM as much of a factor either. Dom Hixon and Rueben Randle have done as much and dropped far fewer passes.
Sgmen  
blakjedi : 12/23/2012 9:26 am : link
Sandy happened the week of the steelers game. They should have goe to Pittsburgh to play that game. The giants were comfortably in control of that game until the fourth quarter...ugh the agony.
The season isn't over yet  
Sneakers O'toole : 12/23/2012 9:30 am : link
he gets hot today and carries that into the playoffs, look out! Can you tell I'm excited today!
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