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Mike Shanahan lied when he said RG3 was cleared to return...

Britt in VA : 1/6/2013 11:59 am
in the game vs. Baltimore.

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Dr. Andrews says RG3 was never cleared to re-enter game

Posted by Mike Florio on January 6, 2013, 10:45 AM EST

Renowned sports surgeon Dr. James Andrews serves as one of the Redskins’ game-day physicians. That relationship could now be in danger, grave or otherwise.

Andrews admits to USA Today that he never cleared quarterback Robert Griffin III to re-enter a Week 15 game against the Ravens, after Griffin suffered a knee injury that looked much worse than it ended up being. Griffin skipped one play, re-entered the game, and then exited for good several snaps later.

“He didn’t even let us look at him,” Andrews tells Robert Klemko of USA Today. “He came off the field, walked through the sidelines, circled back through the players, and took off back to the field. It wasn’t our opinion.

“We didn’t even get to touch him or talk to him. Scared the hell out of me.”

Andrews’ comments may scare the hell out of coach Mike Shanahan, who specifically said the day after the game that Andrews had cleared Griffin to return.

“He’s on the sidelines with Dr. Andrews,” Shanahan said at the time, via Klemko. “He had a chance to look at him and he said he could go back in. [I said] ‘Hey, Dr. Andrews, can Robert go back in?’

‘Yeah, he can go back in.’

‘Robert, go back in.’

“That was it.”

But that wasn’t it. And now, as the Redskins prepare to host the Seahawks on Sunday afternoon, Shanahan and Andrews may be having an awkward conversation at some point this morning. Especially since Andrews is still concerned about Griffin’s status.

“I’m the one that shut him down that day, finally,” Andrews said. “I’ve been a nervous wreck letting him come back as quick as he has. He’s doing a lot better this week, but he’s still recovering and I’m holding my breath because of it.

“He passed all the tests and all the functional things we do, but it’s been a trying moment for me, to be honest with you.”

This back-and-forth highlights the tension between doctors and the teams that pay those doctors to provide care and evaluation to players. And it suggests that Andrews, who doesn’t need his relationship with the Redskins in order to remain the go-to orthropedic specialist for NFL players, has opted to jeopardize that role with the team in order to keep his conscience clear.

Other team-hired doctors don’t have that luxury. Routinely, those doctors tell coaches what the coaches want to hear about player availability, knowing that if the coaches aren’t told what they want to hear they’ll find another doctor who will.That’s why the NFL and NFLPA should work toward the use of a truly independent staff of game-day physicians, who can work with only one concern in mind — the health and well-being of their patients.


One of the many reasons I dislike Mike Shanahan. He's a world class, selfish P.O.S., which makes him a perfect coach for that franchise.

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kicker, the same arrogance and  
LauderdaleMatty : 1/6/2013 7:18 pm : link
short sightedness of Shanahan that allowed him to put his QB at risk all season is the same reason he was still out there. Kid could be a great QB for 15 years but it was more important to try and win this year when they have no realistic shot. This kid career ends prematurely Shanahan will need witness protection.
Matty  
kickerpa16 : 1/6/2013 7:19 pm : link
I couldn't believe they were talking about being tempted to let him play the game after the Ravens...
Well kicker, its not like he's the whole  
LauderdaleMatty : 1/6/2013 7:23 pm : link
team.....

I'm a bit older than you, but I know you're a real sharp dude. Are you still surprised at how stupid smart people are still?
No, not surprised.  
kickerpa16 : 1/6/2013 7:25 pm : link
Disappointed.

Should expect it more, though.
Matty  
lalalalala : 1/6/2013 7:28 pm : link

it's not going to end his career, he's a good thrower. might kill the gimmick off once and for all though, for a pro style offense
This was hard to watch  
redbeard : 1/6/2013 7:28 pm : link
RGIII is a hell of a young player and a stand up young man...hate seeing a potentially serious injury because his head coach is a scuzzball
Very true. Kid has his whole career ahead  
LauderdaleMatty : 1/6/2013 7:29 pm : link
of him and his employer and boss really treated him like a piece of meat. Disappointing is actually rather mild.
He won't be a stand up guy for long if this continues next year.  
shepherdsam : 1/6/2013 7:29 pm : link
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lalalalala, we have no idea  
LauderdaleMatty : 1/6/2013 7:36 pm : link
what the injury will do to him. The fact that he's played on a bad knee the last month can effect him the rest of his career or he could have no effect next year at all.

IMO if I have a kid who can be a 15 year superstar I'm not risking him. Certainly not by having him play running back and taking extra hits.

Long term consequences are unknown at this time. It certainly seems the team knew Griffin was compromised and not healthy. Griffin is certainly not going to bow out. Washington wasn't winning the Superbowl this year. Personally I want my franchise QB not to have to deal with a serious injury most of the off season.

I think the way Washington has handled this was shortsighted and not worth the risk. Heck I think the way they let Griffin run around all year was stupid. IMO his injuries kinda prove my point.
Shep  
Ash : 1/6/2013 7:36 pm : link
nice.
Fatman, do you have any info you can share on this?  
Britt in VA : 1/6/2013 7:37 pm : link
?
That made me laugh, shep  
redbeard : 1/6/2013 7:37 pm : link
Well done
That was painful to watch  
pjcas18 : 1/6/2013 7:41 pm : link
and a little awkward for me as a Redskins hater. I take back some of what I said and apologize to many on this thread.

I do wish Aikman followed through on his thought instead if seemingly stopping himself and only saying "I'm sure the Redskins wouldn't risk RG3's long term health". I'd like a players perspective. Especially one like Aikman who suffered concussions and prob played when he shouldn't have
re  
Rob_MTL : 1/6/2013 7:44 pm : link
I dont give a rats ass about rg3.

Snyder and Shanahan dont either.

It was really hard to watch...  
Britt in VA : 1/6/2013 7:44 pm : link
and I felt awful for that poor kid being left out there in a compromised situation like that.

That said, I too am curious about Aikman's comments. He basically all but said Andrews was lying. I find that odd, that if Andrews was lying, what would he be doing on the sideline tonight?
I said right from the beginning of the game..  
arcarsenal : 1/6/2013 7:48 pm : link
..when he first went into that little room and came out, that something weird was going on. I don't know what's going on with Andrews or who is lying or not lying.. but one thing was painfully obvious today. RG3 should not have been on the field.
shanahan is a first-class ass  
RasputinPrime : 1/6/2013 7:51 pm : link
and he is painting that picture very clearly in his post-game interview right now.

throwing Griffin under the bus
Shanahan is getting hammered right now...  
Britt in VA : 1/6/2013 7:52 pm : link
and he's squirming.
What  
Jon in NYC : 1/6/2013 7:52 pm : link
is he saying?
Uhhh, Mr. Shanahan?  
Anakim : 1/6/2013 7:52 pm : link
Your QB could barely walk...
He's The Rat for a reason  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/6/2013 7:53 pm : link
not just his teeth.

The only reason Shanahan is still coaching is Elway and Terrell Davis.
Rg3  
spike : 1/6/2013 7:53 pm : link
Won't last. Shanny will use him up and spit him out when he's too injured
"We would not have played Robert if we thought there was risk for  
Anakim : 1/6/2013 7:53 pm : link
further injury"



Well, that kind of backfired on you today, didn't it, Mikey?
Even if he was okay after the first quarter...  
Dunedin81 : 1/6/2013 7:53 pm : link
that run where he came up lame should have been the end.
arc  
lalalalala : 1/6/2013 7:54 pm : link

he was getting a shot, I would guess, he had to drop his pants and that was the best place to go
The guy could barely walk!  
Anakim : 1/6/2013 7:56 pm : link
And I understand RGIII wanting to go back out there. It's the playoffs and Redskins Nation is counting on him. I don't fault him for his heart and pride, but seriously Shanny, you need to fucking know better. Use your fucking head
Of course he thought he could go back out there, shanny  
redbeard : 1/6/2013 7:58 pm : link
he's a player...players are always going to want to play. It's YOUR job to know better. As soon as he pulled up lame on the bootleg (at the VERY LEAST) he should of had his ass glued to the bench.

The coach needs to win games but he also needs to protect his players....Shanny failed in that capacity in a big way
^Bingo  
Anakim : 1/6/2013 7:58 pm : link
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lalalalala...  
arcarsenal : 1/6/2013 7:58 pm : link
I mean, yeah.. that's what I assumed.. but if he's needing shots after just a few series' and he's limping very noticeably and really can't run.. I'm going to go ahead and think that he probably should not have been on the field to begin with. Clearly there was a risk for further injury. His knee just folded up like a chair. It just seemed bad from the start.
It's amazing what ppl can do with pure adrenaline  
spike : 1/6/2013 7:59 pm : link
But rg3 won't be walking tomorrow
Weak call by the rat  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/6/2013 7:59 pm : link
No player worth a damn will ever ask out of a game. It's your job to be the adult.
anyone else  
Scotty9678 : 1/6/2013 8:01 pm : link
think the left knee might have been hurt there too?

I'm not wishing it...just the slow-mo of the video I see the other knee kinda buckle too?
arc  
lalalalala : 1/6/2013 8:05 pm : link

yep, the thought process was fucked beyond belief, and the worst part for him was when he finally wrecked it, that was th one situation where he shouldn't have been on the field.

they needed to go the length of the field and they needed to throw. he couldn't throw. so that was stupid, it wasn't even like they were using him as a pistol option decoy. he had to drop back and throw the ball.
spike  
lalalalala : 1/6/2013 8:06 pm : link

you can walk. Brady walked off. Rivers *played*.
re  
Rob_MTL : 1/6/2013 8:06 pm : link
Shanahan doesnt do this without Snyders consent.
I couldn't believe the designed keep they ran with him..  
arcarsenal : 1/6/2013 8:11 pm : link
..when it was way, way evident that he couldn't run. It actually made me cringe.
Sorry Ash. I find it funny  
BlueHurricane : 1/6/2013 8:12 pm : link
That the most respected orthopedic surgeon on the planet was overruled by Danny Boy and Shanny. I feel bad for Bob-3 but I find it funny as hell that they chose the immediate reward over the long term risk. Fuck that franchise
Well I enjoy seeing Shanahan and Snyder suffer as  
Ash : 1/6/2013 8:13 pm : link
much as anyone else, it's just a shame it has to be at the expense of Bob's health.
^^^^^^  
BlueHurricane : 1/6/2013 8:14 pm : link
Exactly
BH  
pganut : 1/6/2013 8:16 pm : link
You are 100% right. Snyder and Shanahan just can't help themselves.
Hey... the Redskins had their RG3 injury fiasco...  
M.S. : 1/6/2013 8:20 pm : link
...we had out Hakeem Nicks injury fiasco.

At least the Redskins made it to the playoffs.

M.S  
redbeard : 1/6/2013 8:22 pm : link
if RGIII has done serious damage to that knee than the "Nicks fiasco" doesn't even begin to approach this
I like next week's divisional game  
DG : 1/6/2013 8:22 pm : link
lineup..the NFC matchups particularly. Atlanta has a legit shot next week. Don't discount them.
If Atlanta can  
redbeard : 1/6/2013 8:23 pm : link
deal with the 'hawks then I will consider them legit but right now I see the Falcons as the third best team left in the NFC at best
M.S.  
djm : 1/6/2013 11:26 pm : link
the nicks injury was anything but a fiasco. I think bob already tore ligaments last month. That knee was compromised and he missed what, 1 week? Nicks knee was nowhere near as bad and he missed weeks not 1 week.

Not a good comparison.
I feel bad for Snyder....  
Stu : 1/6/2013 11:31 pm : link
If the Skins had won, he would have felt 4 feet tall!!!
Not to change the subject, but  
Blackbeard : 1/6/2013 11:56 pm : link
the way Rg III's knee bent inward as he fell makes me question the value of the brace he was wearing. Wouldn't you think that the function of the brace would be to prevent both Forward and Lateral movement of the lower leg?
anyone think, I wonder what retired major league outfielder  
chris r : 1/7/2013 12:35 am : link
Jermaine Dye thinks about the situation?

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Jermaine dye ‏@JermaineDye
RG3 Should have never played. As a athlete we want to be in the battle with our teammates but sometimes our body is saying NO.
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Blackbeard  
Sarcastic Sam : 1/7/2013 12:54 am : link
I think what you're thinking of is called a "cast."
No,Sam  
Blackbeard : 1/7/2013 1:09 am : link
Athletic braces I have seen all have side bars that, basically, follow the lines of the MCL and LCL and are designed to prevent lateral movement such as the film shows RG III going through. I assume there are other types that prevent forward, but not flexing, movement.
Otherwise, what good is a brace?
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