Mike Shanahan lied when he said RG3 was cleared to return...

just like the Eagles doctors seem to be to so many players.

up. He's a guy with legitimate weight in the sports world. **** Mike Shanahan. Good luck jerkoff.

Are they still telling Steve Smith he's good to go?

what's the problem?

- Mike Shanahan

fuck Shanahan. I hope Andrews doesn't back down.

Okay, well can he go out there and act like he can see?

an entire conversation and announced that the decision was that of the Dr. Andrews himself? Wow...just wow.

chimes in; if a Giants playoff berth were at stake and a doctor said don't put Eli in because he's not healthy enough to play and it's injurious to him and TC disregarded that recommendation, I would be furious with TC. Football's a game. This a person's health.

How we react to this situation is one of life's IQ tests.

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�He passed all the tests and all the functional things we do..."

what else is there?

Terrible.

That's regarding this week, leading up to today's game, not the game vs. Baltimore.

Unfortunately, in football, for coaches, it's win now. I think RG3 is a dynamic player. I hope that Shanahan doesn't get him killed with some of his decisions.

Several coaches have made, IMO, scummy decisions this year (Schiano, Shanahan, etc.).

that quote is talking about tests they administered this week, NOT during the Ravens game. And passing the tests doesn't mean there's no structural damage that could worsen his knee and threaten his career.

Fuck Shanahan.

functional tests is post-factum reasoning. The point is even if Bob passed the required tests during the following week, in game, Shanahan blatantly disregarded team doctors.

I get Shanahan lied and that's messed up, but what is Andrews still worried about.

Read his quote, says he's a nervous wreck.

blatantly disregarded anyone. From what Andrews said, RG3 never let anyone even look at him and re-entered the game.

So saying Shanahan disregarded doctors sounds like a stretch.

But according to what Andrews says, Shanahan definitely made up a conversation that never happened.

If he thinks that despite test results, that there's serious risk in playing RG, then I trust his judgment. That doesn't mean he can't be wrong and that Shanahan is wrong in playing him. That's an expected-value calculation that differs among different people.

It's Shanahan's in-game behavior that's the cause for concern.

someone lied, mislead, what is this world coming to?

a classic!

That the knee is still an issue

to do what HE thinks is best for his players and the team. Keep on-a rockin', Skins.

the player is always going to go back in the game. It's up to the coach whether to tell the kid to step the **** down and go to the docs.

And blatantly lying about having a discussion with your team doctors in an obvious attempt at CYA is a terrible thing regardless.

people lie and misbehave. If you think that our reaction to these sorts of things is simply to say that's how the world is, carry on, then that's your prerogative. I think that's a pretty reprehensible and lazy way of living your life. But in this case when lying and misbehaving involves someone with power and responsibility over another person's livelihood, then yes, I think there's a reason to get pissed off.

read the whole quote. He is still recovering. Just because someone passed the tests doesn't mean they still shouldn't rest up to be 100% certain or at least close to 100% as possible. This guy has a reputation as being the best doctor/surgeon in sports. If a marquee player like RGIII got hurt because he came back to early that will have a negative effect on his reputation let alone knowing he let a human being get injured.

Mike Shanahan, Medicine Man.

in particular, is that it's clear that RG3 couldn't walk or run on it, he was hopping down the field on one leg and finally ultimately had to fall down and call to the sideline to be taken out, several plays after the injury.

Despite clearly being hurt and unable to walk, Shanahan left him in there until he couldn't stand anymore.

a knee is different than a concussion or some injury that impacts player judgment IMO.

Shanahan is 100% wrong and a jackass for making up a conversation, that's inexcusable, but he didn't disregard a doctors recommendation. Sounds like that is an embellishment.

And whether its the head coaches responsibility to stop a player with a knee injury from entering the game is questionable to me too. there are coordinators and position coaches that should share in that along with team doctors.

If Shanahan sought out RG3 and said get in the game that would be different.

this is bad to be sure, but some of you are making it into something worse IMO.

"Did I say he was with Dr. Andrews? I meant Erin Andrews. She said Robert was good to go. Frankly I didn't really give a crap what she thought, but I never pass up a chance to check out that rack closeup."

of someone untrustworthy

like that? Just think about why he would do that for a second.

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I'm sure a lot of teams would like to have Dr. Andrews on their sideline. Snyder must have been the highest bidder since it's not like Dr. Andrews practices in the DC area. So why pay top dollar for a physician and fly him in from Alabama every week just to not listen to his expert advice?

RG3 got hurt, came out let know one examine him, played a few snaps and then came out of the game for good.

What is Shanahan's lie accomplishing?

I don't know and who is Klemko? Sounds like this story is about a conversation being related second hand.

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�He�s on the sidelines with Dr. Andrews,� Shanahan said at the time, via Klemko. �He had a chance to look at him and he said he could go back in. [I said] �Hey, Dr. Andrews, can Robert go back in?�

Nothing surprises me with Shanahan..Nothing.

I know sometimes fans get impatient with TC's caution..The Giants err on the side of caution. That's a good thing. Real good

and it still boils down to being reprehensible or completely stupid.

Morally, I've outlined how if you have responsibility for a player's career, regardless of the team, you have an overarching responsibility to a player's physical well-being and that ultimately your team's doctors are the people you should defer to when it comes to that evaluation.

Practically, even if RG hasn't gotten injured since then, I would be wary of trusting a coach (however brilliantly he designs a running game) who does not have enough prudence to think that the most important asset on your team - the guy you risked several 1st rounders for and whose health and success could guarantee 10+ years of contention - needs to be handled cautiously and that the right decision is to play it safe, making the playoffs in his ROOKIE YEAR be damned.

like Hakeem Nicks returning too soon?

I wonder what Andrews would have said about Hakeem's knee.

I get the need to play devil's advocate, but the facts are Shanahan put RG3's welfare at risk and then lied about it to cover his own ass.

Those are the facts. Even if RG3 didn't let anybody examine him, Shanahan put him back in. And to go even one step further, let's say RG3 came to the sideline, didn't let anybody else examine him, and then put himself back in. Shanahan still left him in there until he couldn't walk.

There is zero way you're going to convince me, or likely anybody else, that what Shanahan did wasn't completely a scumbag move.

with shutting down or letting Nicks on the field. Until I have that information, I can't give you an informed judgment.

That said, from what I read from TC, he thought letting Nicks on the field was the wrong decision on prudential grounds, i.e. the team would've benefited from a completely healthy Nicks several weeks down the road rather than with a hobbled Nicks. Whether TC made a decision that the doctors disagreed with and thus recklessly endangered his player's health is a question we can't answer without more information.

Geez, there's always one dude, isn't there?

came off the field for 1 play, walked up and down the sideline and said he's going back in. There was no time for anyone to make these grandiose decisions everyone is talking about.

definitely making the rest of the group smarter (/sarcasm).

that TC would never lie and fabricate a discussion with a team doctor to justify putting a player back in a game when he shouldn't be. Call me crazy though....

Al Wilson amongst several Shanny maneuvers, for example..

Hakeem played how many weeks in a row on his bum knee? Seems obvious it wasn't an injury that was going to get worse or to a point that it hurts Hakeem's future. The real question about Hakeem was weather or not he was healthy enough to be effective, not if his knee would hold up.

advocate, I'm just not ready to feel your outrage over this.

I'm pretty sure on most non-Giants boards the conversation (if made up as it seems to be) is the most damaging thing here.

Never does Andrews come out and say RG3 should not be playing. At least not in what you quoted in your OP.

And if yeah there always needs to be one guy is one guy who is not simply blinded by hatred of an opponent, I'm happy to fill that role for you blatant homers.

making up the conversation, if true, really has no bearing on what actually happened. No one had any chance to examine him in that 1 play.

The fact that Shanahan said Andrews looked at him in that time doesn't change the fact that Griffin was putting himself back in before anyone could look at him. Nothing changed from Shanahan making up a conversation after the fact.

we're definitely on the same page. I think Shanahan's a scumbag and if I'm in charge of Shanahan and I make the cost-benefit decision between keeping a guy like Shanahan who might play fast and loose with the very asset that could be the difference between being a 5-7 win team each year and a 9-11 win team, I think very hard and long about how much power I give him and how much I trust him.

The entire move was irresponsible, reprehensible and imprudent. I have no tolerance for people who neglect their responsibilities and make stupid decisions.

yet nobody questioned Parcells when Taylor played that game vs the Saints with his shoulder and arm hanging off of him? Oh no, in that situation Taylor is a hero.

Hostetler getting his knee hit, then sitting out for one play and coming back in?

There are probably about 50 other recent Giants examples that we do not even know about.

is another dude who I guess just doesn't get it either. they're the redskins and don't care about players, only the Giants do because they're a classy organization.

or too young to know. And if that's the case then it was a bad decision by Parcells, results notwithstanding.

I judge decisions not by how they turn out, but by the reasoning that goes into them. The world has too many damned variables to think that we can just justify decisions by pointing to the results after the fact. Responsibility and decision making entail proper judgment.

to justify putting him back in, essentially deflecting the blame to someone else (like a doctor, who didn't approve anything). That would be a key difference there, chief.

this isn't a matter of the Giants being a "classy organization". This is just you trying to play devil's advocate and relish whatever intellectual high you get from it.

Take the Nats with Strasburg this year. I thought their decision was terrific. I thought the White Sox were irresponsible with Chris Sale.

I've thought Andy Reid has been incredibly irresponsible with Vick, as much as I hate the scumbag. I've already made my thoughts clear about the Nick's situation.

...only two thoughts come to mind:

(1) They are a better football team than the New York Giants;

(2) The teaming of two very young studs -- RG3 and Alfred Morris -- bodes extremely well for this team over the next decade.

Non story here, haha. Nothing to see here, folks, move along.

again, making up the conversation is weird. I don't know what it accomplishes.

Review the facts that we know are true.

1. RG3 gets hurt.
2. Doesn't let anyone examine him and re-enters the game after one play.
3. Exits the game for good after 3 more plays.
4. Is "shut-down" by Andrews for the game the next week
5. Is Active the next week (apparently Andrews agreed for him to be active, since it was Andrews who shut him down the week before)


So, what did Shanahan do that was so awful or detrminental to the player? I can't think of anything.

The making up of a conversation that didn't happen is awful, and makes Shanahan a liar, but I'm not sure the motive or what it accomplishes.

That's all, I hope the Redskins lose today by 20 points, and I don't like the Keebler elf, but I don't share some of your outrage over this incident.

Assuming we know all the facts.

if for example Shanahan prevented anyone from looking at RG3 that would be different, but this sounds to me like a player being anxious to enter a game and did so, and was then removed.

thats what I think of

professional reputation at stake here, not just the perks of being a sideline doctor. As arguably being one of the world foremost orthopedic experts, the sideline gig is small potatoes and the Skins and their players may need him more than he needs them. So good for him.

When people cannot decipher between right & wrong

we'll agree to disagree on this, but if I'm a coach and I see my franchise QB get his knee twisted by 350 lbs of Samoan might, limp and hop and try to get back into the game and my doctors show tremendous concern, then I hop and stop Bob or call a damn TO (don't know if they had any TO's so this might be a moot point).

The lying part is terrible because it shows a coach who is not willing to take responsibility for the things he does and instead tries to CYA. Yes, it's a human flaw, but if you're the leader of my team, I worry about what constitutes that "leadership".

recklessly puts Dr. Andrew's reputation and career at risk, without regard for any kind of professional integrity or honesty, whatsoever. That is the main thing wrong with this story. Dr. Andrews obviously recognized that and felt obligated to speak out because of it. The fact that Bob went back into the game without being examined and/or cleared as a result is another thing, not without its own questions and issues.

There was very little if any caution taken in the Parcells days. If you could walk and your arms haven't fallen off, you played. Stupid, but the prevailing mindset of the times, unfortunately. Now, they're implementing many safeguards with some perhaps being too reactive, imo. We'll see how that unfolds...

who took RG3 out after 3 plays? I assume it was Shanahan.

Sounds like this was the scenario to me.

RG3 was injured, Cousins entered the game. Shanahan is probably concerning himself with the game, and what plays to run, how to adjust the offense with Cousins.

After 1 play RG3 re-entered the game (sounds like from what Andrews says on his own), after 3 plays Rg3 is removed from the game.

Shanahan lied about it, but from the sounds of it, RG3 did it on his own, so what I think Shanahan is guilty of is letting a player dictate if he can go back in the game and seems like he didn't want to admit that so lied about it.

Either way, I don't care to argue it anymore, so yeah we can agree to disagree even though I don't feel strongly. If people want to crush the Redskins and Shanahan for this and prop up the Giants - go ahead.

Ronnie Lott would still have his finger in today's NFL, back then, cutting it off because it was broken was a valid solution.

Ummm, BBI wasn't around in 1987. Other than that, nice try. You sound fucking stupid bro. Every single time a coach or player does something stupid, you call out Parcells and LT from 20 fucking years ago to try to tell Giants fans that we aren't allowed to have discussions about anything or anyone because Parcells and LT had some issues. Just stop. Because LT played with a separated shoulder, or because Hostetler only sat out one play with a banged up knee 20 years ago doesn't have a thing to do with a damn thing. No matter how many times you bring it up.

and I rarely play that card.

I have an issue with Shanahan because he was reckless and irresponsible and displayed terrible leadership. You disagree, and that's fine.

Nevertheless, I hate Bob with a passion, but I think duty is duty and when someone doesn't discharge their duties appropriately, then that's a serious problem.

what's to prop up about the Giants?

gerbil.

to injuries than other staffs are..

that too.

not to mention his exophthalmic-like eyes

Holy crap, if that happened today?

People would be losing jobs over it.

nothing, but some people use this as a way to say the Giants care more about player safety than other teams and exercise more caution than others.

I think it's pretty much the same everywhere. Normally when doctors clear a guy to play he plays.

practically every coach and GM realize this is a what have you done for me lately business and wins are hard to come by, so when the medical staff doesn't say this guy absolutely can't play they play them.

Especially more now that concussions are so much in the media and the NFL handling of them in the past is so scrutinized and proven to be so widespread among retired player health issues.

here.

Who specifically used this to prop up the Giants?

like apples and oranges. It's more like comparing apples and neutron stars.

yummy.

Shanahan completely fabricated a story and a medical opinion of a professional doctor...Doctor James Andrews. How is that not comprehensible to some?...That is the problem. If anything that is the number one underlying problem to me. If you were a highly respected Doctor would that be okay? No it would never be okay. You can't just make shit up about what someone said and not worry about repercussions or people questioning your methods.



But, does anyone wonder why this is a story three weeks later? That is what I am curious about...

I feel like this is sort of carry over from all of the Eagles stuff.

He does look like he just crawled out of Richard Gere's ass.

blame this on John Mara..

section of PFT and on the thread on this over at Extremeskins, some of them do just that.

I'm shocked ! Shocked, I say !

If Shanahan's veneers are moving he's lying.

I never once mentioned those scenarios here before...ever. My point still remains. Shanahan may be an asshole for lots of reasons, but to get on him for sending his QB back into the game? Really? My point is that the Giants have also done that for generations. I reached back that far because that particular situation (LT) was tied to the best Giant ever.

If you dont like me going back that far, then how about Bradshaw? We will never know how many times he played on a knee or foot when he shouldn't have...because a doctor is not calling out Coughlin right now.

This is the NFL and it happens on every team. If you dont think it does then...you sound stupid "bro".

and Coughlin at Jacksonville.
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on here better not read that link

You are COMPLETELY missing the entire point of this thread. It is about Shanahan lying about Dr. Andrews and making up a conversation that didn't exist. It's not about putting a player in a game when he's banged up. Now, keep googling and I'm sure you'll be able to find an instance where Ray Perkins lied to the media, and threw the team doctor under the bus in the process. Then, you can make your own thread and well discuss that instance. But this thread is about Shanahan and him lying about a well respected doctor. Not the Giants.

after going completely silent when his strawman argument about propping the Giants up was shot down.

and this story is that Coughlin did not blatantly lie, and make up a conversation with the doctor in regards to the player that did not exist.

But again, contrary to the strawman argument that this thread is about the Giants, it's not.

I decided people formed their opinions and no facts would change their opinions. So it wasn't worth my time.

the 4th or 5th post of the thread:

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....if a Giants playoff berth were at stake and a doctor said don't put Eli in because he's not healthy enough to play and it's injurious to him and TC disregarded that recommendation, I would be furious with TC. Football's a game. This a person's health.....

lie is weird at best (since it looks like in the quote it's being relayed by someone else) and inexcusable. I don't understand it.

But from what I read, Shanahan didn't ask or encourage RG3 to go back in the game and didn't undermine any doctors recommendations about sitting him.

Here's the full quote:

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And before someone from the "shall cast the first stone" Ash : 12:04 pm chimes in; if a Giants playoff berth were at stake and a doctor said don't put Eli in because he's not healthy enough to play and it's injurious to him and TC disregarded that recommendation, I would be furious with TC. Football's a game. This a person's health. How we react to this situation is one of life's IQ tests.

That is the poster's personal opinion, not what he think the Giants would or would not do. Secondly It was also posted to be pre-emptive before the inevitable devil's advocate poster joined the thread, which of course you did a few posts later.

irrelevant at this point.

It is what it is.

I read the entire linked article and never seen where Coughlin lied about a doctor and/or any medical clearance to play. And that is what this thread is about. A coach lying about a team doctor.

enjoy your outrage. I have no idea why Shanahan lied. It's strange and Andrews was right to come forward.

My point about everyone else's outrage on here remains the same, when a doctor says a player can play they'll be on the field. any franchise.

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okay.

I'm outraged. Rah.

lying by Shanahan. I agreed that was ridiculous and said so in every comment I made.

My comments were about the comments about the Redskins and Shanahan not caring about player safety.

didn't have the balls to discuss it. He implicitly called Dr. Andrews a liar.

I'm concerned for RG3 long term. Shanahan, who a) drafted the insurance policy, too and b) is a notoriously selfish prick, will always be hesitant to do anything and RG3 won't pull himself out.

"He's a compromised player right now." -- Buck

who has nothing to gain and is trusted by thousands of athletes has come out and said this should tell you all you need to know.

Shanahan's an asshole.

c'mon, pj has it right. It's clear Shanahan has the utmost concern for RG3's safety right now.

let's be charitable. Pj's point is that we shouldn't judge Shanahan so harshly given the information since many coaches would behave similarly.

We disagree. It seems obvious to us that Griffin's health is at risk and that it's both an irresponsible and imprudent decision. A double sin.

Holy shit holy shit.

This is just fucking awful.

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really deserves a break here guys.

He didn't want to be liable.

I rest my case. And I'm not happy about it either.

-Shanahan

bingo.

Good for Andrews.

Hope he takes Shanahan to task even more for this.

of that.

RG3 is a special talent and yea, he plays for the Redskins, but he's a great guy and an absolute pleasure to watch.

There is nothing good about this.

And that looked a hell of a lot like an ACL.

great talents going down.

And that def. looked like an ACL. Obviously we're speculating but it wouldn't be surprising.

It's terrible.

Bwahahahahahahahahaha

painful to watch.

Deplorable that we've all seen the Redskins put a player on the field who is physically damaged and just did further damage.

This is like what happened to Ballard on a whole other level because he's been playing for weeks on a bad leg - a leg much worse than the public was led to believe.

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about the consequence of RG3's knee. Meant it about speaking out.

He got away with one major knee injury that looked worse than it was. Hopefully this is the same way.

And gunning it 100 MPH down a gravel path until it gave out.

I care that he's a human being potentially having his livelihood taken away from him because of his prick boss.

I NEED WINS

Agreed. Plus, in reading Dr. Andrews' comments, it seems like he didn't really want to clear Griffin to play.

you and I really should be friends, despite our previous differences.

not until the Ravens game.

But to keep running the same kind of offense is just idiocy.

earlier.

as soon as RGIII was limping off the field after the secon TD, he should have been lifted.

you mean we weren't already friends???

friends. Obvs

Shit, he almost fucked up his knee very badly throwing a ball where he jumped, landed, and got up limping badly...

deserves to be banned for typing "obvs".

short sightedness of Shanahan that allowed him to put his QB at risk all season is the same reason he was still out there. Kid could be a great QB for 15 years but it was more important to try and win this year when they have no realistic shot. This kid career ends prematurely Shanahan will need witness protection.

I couldn't believe they were talking about being tempted to let him play the game after the Ravens...

team.....

I'm a bit older than you, but I know you're a real sharp dude. Are you still surprised at how stupid smart people are still?

Disappointed.

Should expect it more, though.

it's not going to end his career, he's a good thrower. might kill the gimmick off once and for all though, for a pro style offense

RGIII is a hell of a young player and a stand up young man...hate seeing a potentially serious injury because his head coach is a scuzzball

of him and his employer and boss really treated him like a piece of meat. Disappointing is actually rather mild.

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what the injury will do to him. The fact that he's played on a bad knee the last month can effect him the rest of his career or he could have no effect next year at all.

IMO if I have a kid who can be a 15 year superstar I'm not risking him. Certainly not by having him play running back and taking extra hits.

Long term consequences are unknown at this time. It certainly seems the team knew Griffin was compromised and not healthy. Griffin is certainly not going to bow out. Washington wasn't winning the Superbowl this year. Personally I want my franchise QB not to have to deal with a serious injury most of the off season.

I think the way Washington has handled this was shortsighted and not worth the risk. Heck I think the way they let Griffin run around all year was stupid. IMO his injuries kinda prove my point.

nice.

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Well done

and a little awkward for me as a Redskins hater. I take back some of what I said and apologize to many on this thread.

I do wish Aikman followed through on his thought instead if seemingly stopping himself and only saying "I'm sure the Redskins wouldn't risk RG3's long term health". I'd like a players perspective. Especially one like Aikman who suffered concussions and prob played when he shouldn't have

I dont give a rats ass about rg3.

Snyder and Shanahan dont either.

and I felt awful for that poor kid being left out there in a compromised situation like that.

That said, I too am curious about Aikman's comments. He basically all but said Andrews was lying. I find that odd, that if Andrews was lying, what would he be doing on the sideline tonight?

..when he first went into that little room and came out, that something weird was going on. I don't know what's going on with Andrews or who is lying or not lying.. but one thing was painfully obvious today. RG3 should not have been on the field.

and he is painting that picture very clearly in his post-game interview right now.

throwing Griffin under the bus

and he's squirming.

is he saying?

Your QB could barely walk...

not just his teeth.

The only reason Shanahan is still coaching is Elway and Terrell Davis.

Won't last. Shanny will use him up and spit him out when he's too injured

further injury"



Well, that kind of backfired on you today, didn't it, Mikey?

that run where he came up lame should have been the end.

he was getting a shot, I would guess, he had to drop his pants and that was the best place to go

And I understand RGIII wanting to go back out there. It's the playoffs and Redskins Nation is counting on him. I don't fault him for his heart and pride, but seriously Shanny, you need to fucking know better. Use your fucking head

he's a player...players are always going to want to play. It's YOUR job to know better. As soon as he pulled up lame on the bootleg (at the VERY LEAST) he should of had his ass glued to the bench.

The coach needs to win games but he also needs to protect his players....Shanny failed in that capacity in a big way

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I mean, yeah.. that's what I assumed.. but if he's needing shots after just a few series' and he's limping very noticeably and really can't run.. I'm going to go ahead and think that he probably should not have been on the field to begin with. Clearly there was a risk for further injury. His knee just folded up like a chair. It just seemed bad from the start.

But rg3 won't be walking tomorrow

No player worth a damn will ever ask out of a game. It's your job to be the adult.

think the left knee might have been hurt there too?

I'm not wishing it...just the slow-mo of the video I see the other knee kinda buckle too?

yep, the thought process was fucked beyond belief, and the worst part for him was when he finally wrecked it, that was th one situation where he shouldn't have been on the field.

they needed to go the length of the field and they needed to throw. he couldn't throw. so that was stupid, it wasn't even like they were using him as a pistol option decoy. he had to drop back and throw the ball.

you can walk. Brady walked off. Rivers *played*.

Shanahan doesnt do this without Snyders consent.

..when it was way, way evident that he couldn't run. It actually made me cringe.

That the most respected orthopedic surgeon on the planet was overruled by Danny Boy and Shanny. I feel bad for Bob-3 but I find it funny as hell that they chose the immediate reward over the long term risk. Fuck that franchise

much as anyone else, it's just a shame it has to be at the expense of Bob's health.

Exactly

You are 100% right. Snyder and Shanahan just can't help themselves.

...we had out Hakeem Nicks injury fiasco.

At least the Redskins made it to the playoffs.

if RGIII has done serious damage to that knee than the "Nicks fiasco" doesn't even begin to approach this

lineup..the NFC matchups particularly. Atlanta has a legit shot next week. Don't discount them.

deal with the 'hawks then I will consider them legit but right now I see the Falcons as the third best team left in the NFC at best

the nicks injury was anything but a fiasco. I think bob already tore ligaments last month. That knee was compromised and he missed what, 1 week? Nicks knee was nowhere near as bad and he missed weeks not 1 week.

Not a good comparison.

If the Skins had won, he would have felt 4 feet tall!!!

the way Rg III's knee bent inward as he fell makes me question the value of the brace he was wearing. Wouldn't you think that the function of the brace would be to prevent both Forward and Lateral movement of the lower leg?

Jermaine Dye thinks about the situation?

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Jermaine dye ‏@JermaineDye RG3 Should have never played. As a athlete we want to be in the battle with our teammates but sometimes our body is saying NO. Expand Reply Retweet Favorite

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I think what you're thinking of is called a "cast."

Athletic braces I have seen all have side bars that, basically, follow the lines of the MCL and LCL and are designed to prevent lateral movement such as the film shows RG III going through. I assume there are other types that prevent forward, but not flexing, movement.
Otherwise, what good is a brace?