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Mike Shanahan lied when he said RG3 was cleared to return...

Britt in VA : 1/6/2013 11:59 am
in the game vs. Baltimore.

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Dr. Andrews says RG3 was never cleared to re-enter game

Posted by Mike Florio on January 6, 2013, 10:45 AM EST

Renowned sports surgeon Dr. James Andrews serves as one of the Redskins’ game-day physicians. That relationship could now be in danger, grave or otherwise.

Andrews admits to USA Today that he never cleared quarterback Robert Griffin III to re-enter a Week 15 game against the Ravens, after Griffin suffered a knee injury that looked much worse than it ended up being. Griffin skipped one play, re-entered the game, and then exited for good several snaps later.

“He didn’t even let us look at him,” Andrews tells Robert Klemko of USA Today. “He came off the field, walked through the sidelines, circled back through the players, and took off back to the field. It wasn’t our opinion.

“We didn’t even get to touch him or talk to him. Scared the hell out of me.”

Andrews’ comments may scare the hell out of coach Mike Shanahan, who specifically said the day after the game that Andrews had cleared Griffin to return.

“He’s on the sidelines with Dr. Andrews,” Shanahan said at the time, via Klemko. “He had a chance to look at him and he said he could go back in. [I said] ‘Hey, Dr. Andrews, can Robert go back in?’

‘Yeah, he can go back in.’

‘Robert, go back in.’

“That was it.”

But that wasn’t it. And now, as the Redskins prepare to host the Seahawks on Sunday afternoon, Shanahan and Andrews may be having an awkward conversation at some point this morning. Especially since Andrews is still concerned about Griffin’s status.

“I’m the one that shut him down that day, finally,” Andrews said. “I’ve been a nervous wreck letting him come back as quick as he has. He’s doing a lot better this week, but he’s still recovering and I’m holding my breath because of it.

“He passed all the tests and all the functional things we do, but it’s been a trying moment for me, to be honest with you.”

This back-and-forth highlights the tension between doctors and the teams that pay those doctors to provide care and evaluation to players. And it suggests that Andrews, who doesn’t need his relationship with the Redskins in order to remain the go-to orthropedic specialist for NFL players, has opted to jeopardize that role with the team in order to keep his conscience clear.

Other team-hired doctors don’t have that luxury. Routinely, those doctors tell coaches what the coaches want to hear about player availability, knowing that if the coaches aren’t told what they want to hear they’ll find another doctor who will.That’s why the NFL and NFLPA should work toward the use of a truly independent staff of game-day physicians, who can work with only one concern in mind — the health and well-being of their patients.


One of the many reasons I dislike Mike Shanahan. He's a world class, selfish P.O.S., which makes him a perfect coach for that franchise.

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but whatever.  
Britt in VA : 1/6/2013 3:59 pm : link
okay.

I'm outraged. Rah.
My comments had nothing to do with the  
pjcas18 : 1/6/2013 4:00 pm : link
lying by Shanahan. I agreed that was ridiculous and said so in every comment I made.

My comments were about the comments about the Redskins and Shanahan not caring about player safety.
Aikman  
Moondwg : 1/6/2013 6:06 pm : link
didn't have the balls to discuss it. He implicitly called Dr. Andrews a liar.
Aikman punked out  
Dubs : 1/6/2013 6:12 pm : link
I'm concerned for RG3 long term. Shanahan, who a) drafted the insurance policy, too and b) is a notoriously selfish prick, will always be hesitant to do anything and RG3 won't pull himself out.
The dude can't even walk right now  
Dubs : 1/6/2013 6:50 pm : link
"He's a compromised player right now." -- Buck
I think the fact that Andrews  
Ash : 1/6/2013 6:51 pm : link
who has nothing to gain and is trusted by thousands of athletes has come out and said this should tell you all you need to know.

Shanahan's an asshole.
Guys, guys...  
Britt in VA : 1/6/2013 7:02 pm : link
c'mon, pj has it right. It's clear Shanahan has the utmost concern for RG3's safety right now.
Britt  
Ash : 1/6/2013 7:04 pm : link
let's be charitable. Pj's point is that we shouldn't judge Shanahan so harshly given the information since many coaches would behave similarly.

We disagree. It seems obvious to us that Griffin's health is at risk and that it's both an irresponsible and imprudent decision. A double sin.
...  
Dubs : 1/6/2013 7:07 pm : link
Holy shit holy shit.

This is just fucking awful.
Damn.  
Britt in VA : 1/6/2013 7:07 pm : link
.
Shanahan  
chris r : 1/6/2013 7:08 pm : link
really deserves a break here guys.
Now you know why Andrews made his statement.  
Britt in VA : 1/6/2013 7:08 pm : link
He didn't want to be liable.
pjcas  
Ash : 1/6/2013 7:08 pm : link
I rest my case. And I'm not happy about it either.
Get him back out there!  
Britt in VA : 1/6/2013 7:09 pm : link
-Shanahan
Britt  
Ash : 1/6/2013 7:09 pm : link
bingo.
That was painful to watch.  
kickerpa16 : 1/6/2013 7:09 pm : link
Good for Andrews.

Hope he takes Shanahan to task even more for this.
Hadn't even thought  
Ash : 1/6/2013 7:09 pm : link
of that.
No one should be the least bit happy about this  
Dubs : 1/6/2013 7:09 pm : link
RG3 is a special talent and yea, he plays for the Redskins, but he's a great guy and an absolute pleasure to watch.

There is nothing good about this.

And that looked a hell of a lot like an ACL.
Dubs exactly. I don't like  
Ash : 1/6/2013 7:10 pm : link
great talents going down.

And that def. looked like an ACL. Obviously we're speculating but it wouldn't be surprising.
Dubs, nobody here is happy about this I hope.  
Britt in VA : 1/6/2013 7:10 pm : link
It's terrible.
Dr was right  
BlueHurricane : 1/6/2013 7:10 pm : link
Bwahahahahahahahahaha
This is...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/6/2013 7:11 pm : link
painful to watch.

Deplorable that we've all seen the Redskins put a player on the field who is physically damaged and just did further damage.

This is like what happened to Ballard on a whole other level because he's been playing for weeks on a bad leg - a leg much worse than the public was led to believe.
Hurricane don't be an asshole  
Ash : 1/6/2013 7:11 pm : link
.
Poor timing on my part. Didn't mean "good for Andrews"  
kickerpa16 : 1/6/2013 7:12 pm : link
about the consequence of RG3's knee. Meant it about speaking out.

He got away with one major knee injury that looked worse than it was. Hopefully this is the same way.
This season was like taking a new sports car  
Dubs : 1/6/2013 7:12 pm : link
And gunning it 100 MPH down a gravel path until it gave out.
I don't care that he's a potentially great player  
chris r : 1/6/2013 7:13 pm : link
I care that he's a human being potentially having his livelihood taken away from him because of his prick boss.

FUCK A KNEE  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/6/2013 7:14 pm : link
I NEED WINS

FatMan  
Matt M. : 1/6/2013 7:14 pm : link
Agreed. Plus, in reading Dr. Andrews' comments, it seems like he didn't really want to clear Griffin to play.
radar  
Ash : 1/6/2013 7:14 pm : link
you and I really should be friends, despite our previous differences.
Well,  
Jon in NYC : 1/6/2013 7:14 pm : link
not until the Ravens game.

But to keep running the same kind of offense is just idiocy.
Cousins should have been playing much, much  
kickerpa16 : 1/6/2013 7:14 pm : link
earlier.
Kicker is right on point  
dep026 : 1/6/2013 7:15 pm : link
as soon as RGIII was limping off the field after the secon TD, he should have been lifted.
wait  
chris r : 1/6/2013 7:16 pm : link
you mean we weren't already friends???
No I meant closer  
Ash : 1/6/2013 7:16 pm : link
friends. Obvs
Just watching him run that offense limping for a 6 yard gain?  
kickerpa16 : 1/6/2013 7:17 pm : link
Shit, he almost fucked up his knee very badly throwing a ball where he jumped, landed, and got up limping badly...
Ash  
Jon in NYC : 1/6/2013 7:17 pm : link
deserves to be banned for typing "obvs".
kicker, the same arrogance and  
LauderdaleMatty : 1/6/2013 7:18 pm : link
short sightedness of Shanahan that allowed him to put his QB at risk all season is the same reason he was still out there. Kid could be a great QB for 15 years but it was more important to try and win this year when they have no realistic shot. This kid career ends prematurely Shanahan will need witness protection.
Matty  
kickerpa16 : 1/6/2013 7:19 pm : link
I couldn't believe they were talking about being tempted to let him play the game after the Ravens...
Well kicker, its not like he's the whole  
LauderdaleMatty : 1/6/2013 7:23 pm : link
team.....

I'm a bit older than you, but I know you're a real sharp dude. Are you still surprised at how stupid smart people are still?
No, not surprised.  
kickerpa16 : 1/6/2013 7:25 pm : link
Disappointed.

Should expect it more, though.
Matty  
lalalalala : 1/6/2013 7:28 pm : link

it's not going to end his career, he's a good thrower. might kill the gimmick off once and for all though, for a pro style offense
This was hard to watch  
redbeard : 1/6/2013 7:28 pm : link
RGIII is a hell of a young player and a stand up young man...hate seeing a potentially serious injury because his head coach is a scuzzball
Very true. Kid has his whole career ahead  
LauderdaleMatty : 1/6/2013 7:29 pm : link
of him and his employer and boss really treated him like a piece of meat. Disappointing is actually rather mild.
He won't be a stand up guy for long if this continues next year.  
shepherdsam : 1/6/2013 7:29 pm : link
.
lalalalala, we have no idea  
LauderdaleMatty : 1/6/2013 7:36 pm : link
what the injury will do to him. The fact that he's played on a bad knee the last month can effect him the rest of his career or he could have no effect next year at all.

IMO if I have a kid who can be a 15 year superstar I'm not risking him. Certainly not by having him play running back and taking extra hits.

Long term consequences are unknown at this time. It certainly seems the team knew Griffin was compromised and not healthy. Griffin is certainly not going to bow out. Washington wasn't winning the Superbowl this year. Personally I want my franchise QB not to have to deal with a serious injury most of the off season.

I think the way Washington has handled this was shortsighted and not worth the risk. Heck I think the way they let Griffin run around all year was stupid. IMO his injuries kinda prove my point.
Shep  
Ash : 1/6/2013 7:36 pm : link
nice.
Fatman, do you have any info you can share on this?  
Britt in VA : 1/6/2013 7:37 pm : link
?
That made me laugh, shep  
redbeard : 1/6/2013 7:37 pm : link
Well done
That was painful to watch  
pjcas18 : 1/6/2013 7:41 pm : link
and a little awkward for me as a Redskins hater. I take back some of what I said and apologize to many on this thread.

I do wish Aikman followed through on his thought instead if seemingly stopping himself and only saying "I'm sure the Redskins wouldn't risk RG3's long term health". I'd like a players perspective. Especially one like Aikman who suffered concussions and prob played when he shouldn't have
re  
Rob_MTL : 1/6/2013 7:44 pm : link
I dont give a rats ass about rg3.

Snyder and Shanahan dont either.

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