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Round 2: TE Travis Kelce

KWALL : 2/18/2013 11:51 am
Love him in round 2 for the NYG and I think the Giants love this guy too.

I saw several games this year and he shined in both aspects of the game. VERY aggressive blocker. He likes the block! However, the most impressive thing I saw was his short area quickness for his size. This guys is enormous. But he makes sharp sudden moves to make CBs and DBs whiff on the tackle.

He can plant and separate. And he can catch.

Keep an eye on him at the combine. He'll put on a good show.

It's not just the combine stuff, his game matches the AA. He can run and make plays in the pass game but he's also an excellent blocker.

I found this on Kelce today from Ex-N.F.L.scout/exec Bryan Broaddus. Most accurate summary I've seen. Mentions his stop-start quickness.

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Of the five tight ends I studied today, this guy is the most complete….there is no questions about his blocker nor his ability to make plays with the ball in his hands…


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once he is on you, you are done...


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in a game that is played by tough guys, I would take him on my team for the things he can do on the field...


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when the ball is thrown his direction he snatches it with his hands and has the ability to make the first man miss…very good stop-start quickness…


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Another positive on Kelce  
Sy'56 : 2/18/2013 11:53 am : link
Is that he used to play QB. He played wildcat QB for Cincy early in his career before being suspended for the 2010 season. He is a smart player, and it shows. Also good with the ball in his hands.
Kelce finished with an 82  
Sy'56 : 2/18/2013 11:55 am : link
on my grade sheet. Tied for highest spot with Eifert. Will be good for one of the top 32 spots on my board, possibly top 20.

Round 2 value would be enormous if he is there.
Sy  
KWALL : 2/18/2013 12:00 pm : link
You moved him up? Now in round 1?

Could be. I see him running low 4.6s and really working out like a champ. He could be a round 1 player. NOTHING is missing here.
KWALL  
Sy'56 : 2/18/2013 12:01 pm : link
I don't think he will be drafted in round 1...but he will be one of my top 32 players for sure.

I've gotten my final grading process under way...still have a lot to do...but Kelce grades out well across the board. And I have a lot of guys in the 79-81 range...Kelce just a notch higher.
Kelce and Escobar  
Will Allen/Peterson : 2/18/2013 12:03 pm : link
Are two of my favorite tight ends, and I expect both to perform extremely well at the Combine.
The guy at CBS  
KWALL : 2/18/2013 12:03 pm : link
and NFLdraftscout has him at #43 overall in the latest top 100. I think this guy moved him up 40 spots.
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KWALL  
Klaatu : 2/18/2013 12:05 pm : link
If the Giants draft a TE from Cincinnati for the second consecutive year, I will proclaim you a BBI God and sacrifice a goat in your name.
Klat  
KWALL : 2/18/2013 12:14 pm : link
Robinson has no impact on how the Giants will value you this 2 way beast at TE.

Think a "more athletic Gronkowski"! Is that enough for you to forget about Robinson?
Just figuring the odds, dude.  
Klaatu : 2/18/2013 12:21 pm : link
Frankly, I didn't see enough of Robinson to have any opinion of him, although I like to use the "JPP of tight ends" quote whenever I can.
Kelce Question Marks  
Aceman : 2/18/2013 1:37 pm : link
There is no way this guy gets drafted in round one, and it is unlikely that he goes in round 2 either. How can Kelce be rated that highly given the following:

1) He produced nothing prior to his senior year.
2) He couldn't beat out Adrian Robinson for the starting TE spot on last year's team.
3) His current year stats may very well be inflated because there were no other viable pass receivers on the team. The leading WR on Cincinnati only had 542 yards receiving.

Surely there are better options for the Giants in round 2, Logan Ryan, Eddie Lacy, Tank Carradine, and Leon McFadden to name a few.
Aceman  
KWALL : 2/18/2013 1:42 pm : link
Wrong across the board.

The NFL has enough film on him. He was outstanding this year and it had nothing to do with "no other receiving options".

Kelce will go round 2.

And round 1? He's very athletic. You'll see a lot of talk about him after the combine. If he performs at the combine he could go round 1.
Aceman  
Matt G : 2/18/2013 1:51 pm : link
That's a terrible argument... Same could have been said about Barry Sanders...
Yeah, every time I caught a Cincy game,  
barens : 2/18/2013 1:53 pm : link
Kelce stood out to me. Granted, it was mostly against Big East teams, but he was a man among boys in the games I viewed.
We have more needs,  
Doomster : 2/18/2013 2:45 pm : link
than the TE position.....Heck, Pope could coach up Eric, if necessary....
so  
santacruzom : 2/18/2013 2:46 pm : link
he was suspended for a year eh?
Don't want a TE early  
old timer : 2/18/2013 3:25 pm : link
Too many other areas have to be addressed

LB, CB, OL, DE, are far more important. TE can wait.
OK, I'm in.  
TC : 2/19/2013 12:25 am : link
Tough kid!

(Why am I hearing Olivia Newton-John?)

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And he's not just a good looking TE,  
TC : 2/19/2013 12:30 am : link
I think he might be really good for the way the Giants want to play football. I.e., eventual security blanket for Eli, put some pop in the running game. I could see the coaches liking this kid.


As a comparison,  
DG : 2/19/2013 12:52 am : link
here's Ertz' highlights.
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Ertz  
DG : 2/19/2013 12:54 am : link
v Oregon 2012.
ertz is the best receiver of any TE in the draft, imo - ( New Window )
He reminds me of Dan Campbell -  
Ira : 2/19/2013 4:44 am : link
good blocker who can catch the ball but not very fast.
if we don't resign Bennett then i could see it  
gmyers400 : 2/19/2013 5:17 am : link
If we do sign him then I doubt it as we have a lot of other needs
Aceman  
Mike in NY : 2/19/2013 7:06 am : link
People with those same credentials get drafted all the time high. What did JPP do before getting selected by the Giants? Cordarelle Patterson had one season playing for Tennesee yet he is, rightfully IMHO, thought of by many as the top WR in this draft

What may hurt Kelce's stock is not what he did/did not do in college but rather how the draft shakes out. At this point there are maybe 6 TE who deserve top 3 round draft status (in no particular order Eifert, Ertz, Escobar, Kelce, McDonald, Reed). If teams like Chicago, Seattle, Atlanta, and San Francisco do not take a TE in Round 1 I could see someone fall as teams assume they can get at least 1 of the 6 by waiting another round. That being said, as we see every year all it takes is one team to love a player for him to go above his projections (how many hear on BBI were scrambling when the Giants rushed to take Luke Petitgout over L.J. Shelton or Aaron Gibson?)
KWALL  
Will Allen/Peterson : 2/22/2013 11:34 am : link
Kelce won't be working out at the Combine, as he's still recovering from an abdominal tear that kept him out of the Senior Bowl.
Here's a good local article  
DG : 2/23/2013 10:11 am : link
(he's from Cleveland) on his 2010 suspension and (perceived or real) character concerns that scouts have.

Sounds like he will probably be available at 49. I don't think he'll last to 81.
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Coughlin made a very interesting comment  
Blue Blood : 2/23/2013 10:13 am : link
about there being 32 Teams but only 19 TE's.. seems to me like he is very aware that there is a need for a TE on this team.
remote thrower  
area junc : 2/23/2013 10:44 am : link
I'd be pissed if they drafted Kelce. It demonstrates poor allocation of precious resources. We have Adrien Robinson, who while unproven should by no means be considered a scrub who is incapable of stepping up. Pope's been working with him for a year and he's got Marcedes Lewis-like size and skills. Looked good in practice according to TC. Shouldn't we at least see what this very promising kid can do before we just burn a 2nd round pick on another Tight End - a position that isn't very important to our grand scheme of things?

I get it - Kelce is a good Tight End prospect, I agree. But we lack prospects all over the place at more critical positions due to spotty drafting. We have nobody coming up the ranks at outside CB, MLB, G or C. Probaby DT and DE, too. Might need another OLB.

And we burn another 2nd round pick on a TE? I throw the remote.
No thanks  
CarsHURT'86 : 2/23/2013 10:48 am : link
One NFL evaluator told Pro Football Weekly that Cincinnati TE Travis Kelce is a "trainwreck character-wise" and predicted the baggage will push Kelce into the third round "at least."
Kelce was suspended for the entire 2010 season after breaking team rules ahead of the Sugar Bowl. The reasoning for the suspension was never revealed, but his transgression must have been pretty major. Kelce, the younger brother of Eagles starting center Jason, is sitting out the Combine due to an abdominal tear.
The Giants have on two TE's on the  
Blue Blood : 2/23/2013 10:51 am : link
roster.. Pascoe and Robinson.. The Giants usually have three TE's on the roster and would be foolish not to examine that position.. if the value is there.. I have no issue with drafting a TE..
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