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Giants' Cap update - as of 3/25/2013

Optimus-NY : 3/25/2013 9:55 pm
•Good evening everyone. I'm going to list an estimate of the top 51 player CAP HITS for the Giants as of this time (with an amendment to include what is most likely Boothe's cap number after re-signing today).
•In the offseason, the "Top 51" rule is in effect, in which the cap hits for the top 51 players is all that counts against the cap.

•Here's a good article that previously linked here that explains this rule as well as other salary cap basics:
"Durkin: Explaining The NFL’s Salary Cap" by Dan Durkin | February 18, 2013 3:15 PM

•Without further ado, here are the numbers--meaning Cap Hits--for the top 51 salaries on the team; I'll explain the numbers in the space below this table.
•Here is an offical list of the Giants players (BBI, of course, also has this): Giants' current roster according to Giants.com





Source: New York Giants 2013 Salary Cap courtesy of overthecap.com

•The total of the top 51 Cap numbers, as indicated above, is $116,237,526.
•I included the CAP NUMBERS for David Carr, and the two Exclusive Rights Free Agents (ERFAs) who have not yet signed their tenders: Adrian Tracy and Jim Cordle (the thir ERFA, Justin Trattou already signed his).
•I went to spotrac.com and retrieved their expected tender salaries listed in the chart below ($555 K for Cordle and $480 K for Tracy).
•They might be wrong, but they're still very close (they're either going to be $480 K or $555 K), but I wanted to add them in here since they count nonetheless.
•Justin Trattou is the only ERFA who signed his tender, and he is set to count $480 K against the 2013 cap.
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•I didn't include the Cap # for Boothe, which is unknown now, but I do have a strong of what I think it is for him.
•I tweeted the beat writers, and they thought my guess of the vet minimum for Boothe was good.
•Boothe has 7 accrued years, so he would stand to earn $840 K in salary, but only count $550 K against the salary cap.
•The Giants probably gave him a bonus---I'd expect it to be a $65 K bonus, which is the most that a player can receive and still be counted towards the reduced salary cap benefit of $555 K.
•I'll account for Boothe's money ($620 K cap hit) after I explain everything else.
•Here's the vet minimum table again:

Sources:
I. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/25/minimum-salaries-shoot-up-under-new-deal/
II. http://www.steelersdepot.com/2011/07/2011-2014-nfl-minimum-base-salaries/
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•At this point you take the Dead Money, listed below, and add it to the $116,237,526 figure listed above.
•When you do that, you get $122,974,608, as indicated in the table below the Dead Money, where all the math is detailed.


Source: Giants' Dead Money against the 2013 salary cap courtesy of overthecap.com (scroll to the bottom)
•On a side note, approximately 5.5% of the Giants' cap consists of Dead Money.
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•You subtract the amount of $122,974,608 from the salary cap limit of $123 million, and you get $25,392.
•To this total that the Giants first appear to be under the cap by, you add the carryover money from the previous year's cap, which in the Giants' case is $1 million.
•After you add these two figures, as indicated below, you get $1,025,392.


•From the $1,025,392 figure you subtract $504,000 due to the accrual of workout bonuses once the new league year starts, which in this year's case was 13 days ago, on March 12th.
•When you do this, you get $521,392, as displayed above.
•Now to account for Boothe, I simply slide in his anticipated CAP HIT of $620 K into the top 51 CAP HIT numbers, and subtract the DIFFERENCE from the 51st slot that is displaced, which in this instance is $480,500; this number works out to be as follows:

$620,000 - $480,500 = $139,500

•You simply subtract $139,500 from $521,392 to get the updated Cap number for the Giants after Boothe's signing, which turns out to be $381,892.
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•For anyone who's interested, the Giants currently have 76 players signed to the roster.
•Here are the cap hits for the remaining 24 players on the roster:


•The total cap hit for these players DOES NOT count towards the cap.
•As can be seen, these players' CAP HITS are either at or near the league minimum salary (see chart for NFL League minimum salaries for reference above).
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•These numbers are in constant flux with free agency going on, but with it calming down a bit, I figured now is a good time to provide a more thorough breakdown of the Giants' salary cap situation.
•Expect more changes to come of course (Diehl's paycut will be coming eventually).
•Enjoy.
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Re: robbieballs2003 - In reference to your 7:31 am question  
Optimus-NY : 3/26/2013 8:48 am : link
Quote:
Optimus
robbieballs2003 : 7:31 am
Weird question but how do you get those sort buttons at the top of each column in your excel spreadsheet? I've tried and I could only do it with macros. Thanks.


•As DelBlue91 said in his 8:15 am post, I just set a filter on the rows across.
•I used the 2010 version of MS Excel, while staying on the Home Tab, I clicked on the "Format as Table" icon, in the Styles subsection up top.
•After that I just selected the filter with the color of the row you see.
•I couldn't find colors that exactly fit the Giants like I wanted, so I found what looked to fit closest.
so is the filter an automatic  
robbieballs2003 : 3/26/2013 8:55 am : link
A to Z and Z to A or can you customize that? That is where I have the problem. If I want to custom sort a column I can't seem to do that without macros.

Example: Position (QB, RB, WR, TE, K, DEF) then by NAME from A to Z. Obviously you can tell this is for fantasy football.
restructure  
fkap : 3/26/2013 8:57 am : link
every year, many folks are quite cavalier about it only being a million or two dead weight on next year's budget. This list exemplifies how many players have a cap hit equall or less than that 'no biggie' restructure.
Once again, here's a quick reminder about restructuring deals.  
Optimus-NY : 3/26/2013 8:59 am : link
You don't restructure just anyone folks. Read below:



•I'm going to write something up about voidable years, since that is a technique that teams are using nowadays (see C-Web) to deal with players on the last years of their deals, or by signing players while creating cap flexibility going forward (see Brandon Myers).
•I haven't gotten to writing up the piece that I said that I would about the June 1st rule yet; I'm going to get to that soon as well.
•Here is a little preview:

•The June 1st designation and the voidable year share some important traits.
•I like to characterize the June 1st rule as being for "cap slackers", (see the Raiders and Cowboys) and the voidable year contracts as being for well-prepared students.
•The Raiders get somewhat of a pass, only because Reggie McKenzie is still busy cleaning up Al Davis's mess (like how Donnie Walsh cleaned up Isiah Thomas's mess with the Knicks a few years ago, to make a cross sports analogy).
•I'll continue this another time, hopefully very soon.
Some comments  
GIANTSr01 : 3/26/2013 9:03 am : link
1. As of right now, the Giants could increase Cruz's cap hit (currently ~$2.8M) by $380k without making any other moves. It's not too difficult to structure a fair long term deal with an initial cap hit in that range. See Beatty

2. Yes, the Giants can replace Stevie Brown's 1 year contract with a longer term deal that lowers his 2013 cap number.

3. The Rookie Pool Estimates shows that the Giants need $5M in cap space for their draft picks. That's not entirely correct, since they really only require the difference between those players and the player they are replacing in the Top 51. Looking at the list of the top 51, the lowest cap hit is $480k, which is greater than the projected cap hits for draft picks 5 through 7. So those 4 draft picks will not count in the top 51 and you can subtract there 2013 cap hits from the rookie pool total. That lowers the cap room required for the rookie pool to ~$3.3M.

Next you can compare the 1st 4 rd picks and their combined projected cap hits vs the cap hits for the 4 players they'd replace in the top 51. The difference there is ~$1.3M which is the amount of additional cap space the Giants will need to sign their draft picks.
robbie  
YAJ2112 : 3/26/2013 9:07 am : link
just put your own custom value in your position column and you can sort it easily. IE use 1QB, 2RB, etc.

Or you could also just add a separate column and put in a preferred sort order there. You could use a nested if statement, IE IF(A2="QB",1,(IF(A2='RB',2,(IF(A2='K',7,0))))). You could also create a list elsewhere in the file and do a vlookup to pull back the sort order value.
2 other points  
GIANTSr01 : 3/26/2013 9:10 am : link
1. If another team signs Cruz to an offer sheet, then the Giants don't get to structure his contract in a team friendly way and it is highly likely that any team trying to get Cruz would front-load his deal or at minimum give him a large salary in year 1 to make it hard for the Giants to match.

2. As of now, the Giants could create enough cap room to sign Cruz and cover the rookie pool simply by cutting Diehl (or forcing a paycut). That would also possibly give them enough wiggle room to avoid other restructures when they need to start counting everyone towards the cap.
YAJ  
robbieballs2003 : 3/26/2013 9:15 am : link
I don't want to miller this thread more than I have but I don't know how to do what you wrote. I put a custom sort in but I don't want to go through the hassle of highlighting the boxes and going through the whole procedure every time I update the information. I just want a one click option. I can send you what I did if you don't mind through email. My email is robbieballs2003@yahoo.com. Only if you want. Thanks either way.
robbie - I can email you my Excel spreadsheet if you like.  
Optimus-NY : 3/26/2013 9:19 am : link
Let me know here first, and I'll send it to you.
sure  
robbieballs2003 : 3/26/2013 9:24 am : link
I'll send you mine to see what you think. Thanks.
great work  
djm : 3/26/2013 9:44 am : link
and I think some of you guys should check out other teams and their top ten cap hits. It's never pretty. Go check out Dallas ...

Guys that went to pro bowls 2-3 years ago are going to have big cap numbers today. That's life in the NFL. The Giants are not the lone team out there with fading stars making lots of loot. Matter of fact, every team deals with this with maybe 1-2 exceptions and those 1-2 exceptions, the Niners and maybe Seattle will join the ranks soon enough.

here are some of the leading men in Dallas  
djm : 3/26/2013 9:54 am : link
with the biggest cap hits in 2013...at least according to the site I checked...

Miles Austin (they keep restructuring...over 10 mil in dead money)
Jay Ratlif (didn't he get cut?)
Doug Free (over 10 mil)
Anthony Spencer (over 10 mil)

I'm not glad that NY has all this money tied up in some fading talent but just about every one of those big cap hits is tied up to a guy with one year left on his deal. That's a good thing.

Our cap situation is not bad at all.
robbie - sent  
Optimus-NY : 3/26/2013 9:55 am : link
Click on Sheet 1 and Sheet 2 below.

•Sheet 1 has salaries 1 through 51 (sans K. Boothe).
•Sheet 2 has the rest of the salaries that don't count towards the cap.
•Including Boothe, the Giants currently have 76 players signed to the roster.
Thanks Optimus....  
rptl530 : 3/26/2013 9:56 am : link
seems very strange to me that the Giants would eat up $1.45m of precious cap space on Terrell Thomas.
GIANTSr01 - great posts  
Optimus-NY : 3/26/2013 9:58 am : link
Spot on.
rptl530 - Remember this about T2...  
Optimus-NY : 3/26/2013 10:14 am : link
...IF the Giants cut him, his cap savings would be $665,000. He'd only count $785,000 against the cap, as indicated below.



I think if he gets injured in training camp, then he would only count a smaller amount towards the cap. I think it would only be his $35,000 workout bonus which would count. I could be wrong, but I think the contract works somewhere along those lines. The Giants protected themselves, that much I remember, even if the details are a little foggy.
djm - good stuff  
Optimus-NY : 3/26/2013 10:42 am : link
The Cowboys are as mismanaged a team cap-wise as there is in the league. Once Romo and Ware go south in their performance, their ineptitude w/respect to managing the cap will be manifested on the field.
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BigBluePrestige : 3/26/2013 10:43 am : link
Rolle is a very good safety  
Knee of Theismann : 3/26/2013 10:55 am : link
A lot of money is what you pay a very good player in the NFL. He is not Ronnie Lott, but sometimes you have to pay good NFL players who are in the midst of their prime, even if the contract is massive compared to the standards of the 90s. Let's stop trying to bargain hunt on every single player on the team.
Rolle is not a very good safety...  
Doomster : 3/26/2013 11:39 am : link
but that's another thread.....

It'a hard to believe, to fathom, that Boothe, who made 1.5 mil last year, was one of the few bright spots in the OL, will sign for veteran minimum? That's a 50 % paycut....we reward Beatty for one freakin' season....we overpay Bass and Snee, and we ask Boothe, probably the most consistent OLman last year, to take a 50% pay cut?

Cutting Snee  
RB^2 : 3/26/2013 11:46 am : link
would save $4.75 million in cap space. He carries the highest cap number of any guard in the NFL. Cutting Diehl would save about the same amount.
Wonder how  
TMS : 3/26/2013 12:40 pm : link
TC would react to a cut or restructure of Snee? His salary sure jumps out at you. The guy has paid his dues and has been a great Giant but !!!!
i feel like i need the cliff notes  
BigBlue2112 : 3/26/2013 12:56 pm : link
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Thanks for the effots  
mrvax : 3/26/2013 2:54 pm : link
Optimus.

Looking at Snee's cap hit this year makes me want to puke.
It should have been reduced a year ago. I'd offer him a cut or the road. Yes, I know he was voted to the pro-bowl again. So was that fat bastid, Sapp, 10 years after he was any good.
No thanks necessary mrvax  
Optimus-NY : 3/26/2013 5:49 pm : link
I'm glad to do it.
Good job Optimus.  
Big Blue Blogger : 3/26/2013 5:51 pm : link
I agree with Doomster about Kevin Boothe: A qualifying contract for a solid, versatile starter in his prime, with no significant injury issues, would be quite an eye-opener.

I guess you can look at it a couple of ways: maybe Boothe is worse than we think he is; or maybe in 2013 a guy can be pretty good and still not attract more than a one-year deal at veteran minimum. The second interpretation could bode well for some of Reese's other bargain basement signings.
Optimus-NY  
ctc in ftmyers : 3/26/2013 5:57 pm : link
thanks. Great stuff as always.
Who is Trumaine McBride?  
The Turk : 3/26/2013 6:23 pm : link
our 28th highest paid player?
time to update  
robbieballs2003 : 3/26/2013 6:23 pm : link
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Is an offensive guard  
Hammer : 3/26/2013 7:38 pm : link
supposed to be ranked the number 2 player in terms of resources?
robbie - shit! lol  
Optimus-NY : 3/26/2013 7:43 pm : link
By the way: I'm going to email you my updated list after I finish it later.
optimus  
GMenLTS : 3/26/2013 7:48 pm : link
someone asked in the other thread, but I figure you could answer it here.

What were the cap ramifications for cutting DD as opposed to him taking this paycut now down to 1 million for 2013?

Just curious
GMenLTS - Answer to your question is below  
Optimus-NY : 3/26/2013 8:50 pm : link
•If the Giants cut Diehl, the cap savings would have been $4,825,000.

•As it stands, the Giants saved $3,475,000 on account of Diehl's restructured deal (sounds mellifluous, lol).

•The difference between the two is $1,350,000.

•The difference between cutting Diehl and keeping him on the team for insurance and/or back-up purposes is essentially that amount of $1,350,000.
Where are you getting this number?  
Sneakers O'toole : 3/26/2013 9:01 pm : link
$3,475,000
Sneakers  
Optimus-NY : 3/26/2013 9:35 pm : link
Diehl's base salary was reduced from 4,475,000 to 1 million dollars. The difference is $3.475 M



*Source:
http://www.overthecap.com/cap.php?Name=David%20Diehl&Position=RT&Team=Giants


•Remember this: the cap number is equal to the base salary + the bonuses.

•If I add the base salary of $1 M to the bonuses listed above, I get a cap number of $3,428,125.

•That's a difference of $3,475,000 from the old cap number of $6,903,125.
Got it  
Sneakers O'toole : 3/26/2013 9:43 pm : link
I just wasn't sure where you got that figure from. Thanks!
Roster bonus and Workout bonus  
Sneakers O'toole : 3/26/2013 9:47 pm : link
probably don't count though, they would not have yet been earned. Maybe the roster bonus, depending on when that was due
That is why the dead money figure  
Sneakers O'toole : 3/26/2013 9:48 pm : link
is the same as the prorated figure. That other money just goes poof
Sneakers - You're quite welcome  
Optimus-NY : 3/26/2013 9:48 pm : link
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The Bonuses still count Sneakers  
Optimus-NY : 3/26/2013 9:50 pm : link
Incidentally, according to my new calculations (after yesterday's Boothe re-signing & tonight's announced Diehl restructure)the Giants are now $3,856,892 under the salary cap.

Cool  
Sneakers O'toole : 3/26/2013 9:51 pm : link
you see my point about those two other bonus figures though. They may not count, especially the workout bonus.
Why does it count?  
Sneakers O'toole : 3/26/2013 9:52 pm : link
some bonus moneies must be earned. Those two types fall under that category. They are not automatic signing bonus monies.
Again  
Sneakers O'toole : 3/26/2013 9:53 pm : link
that's why under the old contract they were not counted towards the dead money figure. You can't just add them in.
Snealers - You're misunderstanding  
Optimus-NY : 3/26/2013 10:00 pm : link
The base salary is what was changed. The bonuses remain. The prorated signing bonus was already paid; now it's just being distributed after the fact in cap dollars. The other bonuses--the workout and roster bonuses--have nothing to do with this move.

Ralph reported it too: "Diehl's new deal includes massive pay cut" by Ralph Vacchiano | March 26, 2013 6:47 PM

Here are the adjusted numbers for the Top 51:  
Optimus-NY : 3/26/2013 10:36 pm : link
•I've also included the Cap numbers for the remaining 25 players on the roster that don't count toward the salary cap as of now.
•The Giants have 76 players currently signed to the roster as of tonight.
•These numbers include adjustments made with respect to yesterday's re-signing of Boothe and today's announcement of a restructured deal for Diehl.
•Here they are:
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•Here is the explanation of the math done to arrive at the Giants' cap number as of this time:



•As can be seen, the Giants are $3,856,892 under the cap.
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•Here are the CAP NUMBERS for players 52 through 76 on the roster.
•As previously stated, these players do not currently count against the salary cap.


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•Once the regular season begins, the players on the 53-man roster all count towards the cap as well as the players on the practice squad, which will account for approximately another $1.5 to $2 million.
•The Giants will also need to make room in case of an emergency/emergencies; this is sometimes called "fudge money".
•1 or 2 million dollars at the end of the roster is typically an amount that teams like to leave for breathing room in case it is needed.

•There is also money needed in case players go on IR (another million bucks).
•In all, the Giants would still need $3.5 to $5 million of cap money to account for those contingencies mentioned above.

•Right now, the Giants have enough room to continue to make shrewd FA signings, and sign most of their draft picks.
•I wouldn't be surprised to see another contractual adjustment made---possibly an extension for Eli.

•That's all for now folks--Enjoy.
bump  
Torrag : 3/27/2013 10:30 am : link
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BBI MVP during this off-season period  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 3/27/2013 10:45 am : link
great post.
All these numbers are making my head spin.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/27/2013 10:46 am : link
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great work  
djm : 3/27/2013 11:08 am : link
so when does Victor Cruz sign long term with NYG?
DeOssie really has it made  
Knee of Theismann : 3/28/2013 1:56 pm : link
He's getting paid a million dollars a year to do wind sprints and push ups.
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