Just said that Victor Cruz is being offered $21 million Guaranteed but wants more. I was wondering if that had been stated before or mentioned. Never heard of an exact number that we were offering till now.
There has been plenty of speculation that Jay-Z’s new sports management firm resulted in Giants receiver Victor Cruz hiring CAA to negotiate his next contract with the Giants, or whoever he may sign with.
The speculation is accurate. Per a source with knowledge of the situation, Cruz hired CAA in anticipation of CAA and Jay-Z’s Roc Nation partnering in the overall representation and management of Cruz’s career.
CAA is arguably the most powerful name in representation. It's not just sports, it's media and hollywood as well. They have huge names on their client list.
Partnering with Jay-Z is great for them because Jay brings instant credibility in terms of connecting with young athletes, but also, he's very good at branding and marketing, something a lot of people don't know.
He's arguably more successful as a businessman than an artist.
Jay-Z is the attention grabber, but the media plays it as if Jay-Z is his agent. That's not the case whatsover. Cano has an MLB certified Agent that works for CAA. Jay-Z is there to help him pursue other off-field interests.
Not good. Cruz seems like such a good kid, but he has the kind of fame that worries me when it comes to his decision making. If you read his book, he came off as a great person, but like us all, filled with imperfections, and some immaturity. To go from nothing to this level of fame is very rare in football. Remember, Vic was not really a "star" anywhere from HS thru college. His dad is gone, and I wonder if he has anyone to tell him no. This could be headed for an ending no Giants fan wants.
he thinks he is worth more than this then I'd let him play out his RFA option, try and stay healthy, and walk away next year. Screw him and all atheletes that think they are bigger than the team!
that people still cannot understand that Cruz has no reason to sign anything until he has to on April 19th is mind boggling. This doesn't make him greedy or mean his ego has gotten too big, This makes him smart. He gains nothing by signing now without exhausting all possibilities. Football is a business. Both sides are treating it as such and I just wish many fans could understand this.
I have no desire for the Giants to become the 80's version of the Chargers with Air Coryell..scoring 35 PPG and giving up 40..
Neither do I, but welcome to the modern NFL.
I have no desire to see JPP go anywhere. I'm just saying that whenever and wherever he signs his next deal it is going to be massive. And given that our defense blew in 2011 with him playing DPOY-level ball, I'm wondering if paying him that much money is going to result in our playing better defense. We'll certainly have less cap space to utilize in that area.
And regarding the discussion between what to do if it comes down to one or the other between Cruz and JPP, the question to ask is do you think JPP is twice as important to the Giants in terms of helping them win games, because he's going to cost twice as much.
I don't think he is.
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Victor Cruz has singlehandedly won multiple games for the Giants on individual effort big plays.
I don't have a memory of JPP having that kind of impact on games other than the Dallas game, and even with his defensive touchdown, they were goddamn close to losing the game.
I know what you're saying and i tend to disagree with you, but just on the principal that if we loose JPP, the idea of this team being built on Eli and Co and the DL comes to an end..The DL is in the worse shape as i can remember..They had at least Strahan for the better part of 15 years and whoever they threw on the other side be it, Bradtzke, Jones, Osi, Tuck, etc..Right now, the team has JPP and question marks..I'm not adding Kiwi because my thoughts on him is well documented in past threads..
I understand the thought that you need to have a potent offense in this new NFL, but i still believe you must have some type of defensive presence and be able to slow down some of these offenses..
I think even if Cruz get an offer sheet next year, which is very possible and walks, i think we can find a suitable replacement placement..Like Anish said, we've been replacing that position for about 5 years now..
The speculation is accurate. Per a source with knowledge of the situation, Cruz hired CAA in anticipation of CAA and Jay-Z’s Roc Nation partnering in the overall representation and management of Cruz’s career.
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CAA is arguably the most powerful name in representation. It's not just sports, it's media and hollywood as well. They have huge names on their client list.
Partnering with Jay-Z is great for them because Jay brings instant credibility in terms of connecting with young athletes, but also, he's very good at branding and marketing, something a lot of people don't know.
He's arguably more successful as a businessman than an artist.
Makes me long for "Glove one."
Nicks can then get 1m more guaranteed per year
i would be really worried if the money offered was in the 17m range.
He is getting offered a contract with more g money than Colston signed last year and Colston has a better track record
Dry Lightning : 4/2/2013 10:23 pm
Looks like we are bringing the thread down a level with this nonsense.
yes.. sarcasm
Neither do I, but welcome to the modern NFL.
I have no desire to see JPP go anywhere. I'm just saying that whenever and wherever he signs his next deal it is going to be massive. And given that our defense blew in 2011 with him playing DPOY-level ball, I'm wondering if paying him that much money is going to result in our playing better defense. We'll certainly have less cap space to utilize in that area.
And regarding the discussion between what to do if it comes down to one or the other between Cruz and JPP, the question to ask is do you think JPP is twice as important to the Giants in terms of helping them win games, because he's going to cost twice as much.
I don't think he is.
I don't have a memory of JPP having that kind of impact on games other than the Dallas game, and even with his defensive touchdown, they were goddamn close to losing the game.
I understand the thought that you need to have a potent offense in this new NFL, but i still believe you must have some type of defensive presence and be able to slow down some of these offenses..
I think even if Cruz get an offer sheet next year, which is very possible and walks, i think we can find a suitable replacement placement..Like Anish said, we've been replacing that position for about 5 years now..