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Official Confirmed UDFA News/Signings thread for the Giants

Matt in SGS : 4/27/2013 6:23 pm
As has been the case for many years on BBI, after the draft there will be a flurry of UDFA news that comes in, usually from small towns/newspapers, etc. Now with Twitter that will also add a new element of guys confirming their signing.

This thread is intended for actual news, with sourcing on who the Giants have signed. Not who we want them to sign, etc. If history is a guide, by the end of the night or early morning, we should know the list of all the UDFAs who the Giants will sign heading into rookie camp.

So once the 7th round is over, start your Googlin' and Twitter watching and post it here.
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yankees78 : 4/27/2013 7:36 pm : link
Quote:
@RVacchianoNYDN: Let the UDFA madness begin ... Virginia Tech S Alonzo Tweedy has signed an undrafted free agent contract with the Giants. #NYG
Haha!  
BigBlueBuff : 4/27/2013 7:38 pm : link
That took all of what, two minutes?
we better get some  
spike : 4/27/2013 7:39 pm : link
Cbs and Lbs
A DB? See? All is well!  
BoldRuler : 4/27/2013 7:40 pm : link
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This is my favorite part if the whole process  
lono801 : 4/27/2013 7:41 pm : link
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JR's digs it in a little deeper on Greg  
Dunedin81 : 4/27/2013 7:41 pm : link
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Tweedy info:  
BigBlueBuff : 4/27/2013 7:41 pm : link
Quote:
Tweedy was not a regular starter at VT but he spearheaded the team’s punt coverage, and the Giants have been looking for a solid gunner on specials. David Tyree was the best they’ve had over the past decade or so and he was succeeded by Devin Thomas, whose play helped the Giants get to Super Bowl XLVI.

Tweedy has size (6’2″, 197) and speed (a 4.39 40 time) and can also be counted on to dial up a safety blitz. Against FSU last November Tweedy had six tackles, 1 1/2 that went for a loss.

Special Teams ace Alonzo Tweedy to visit Giants - ( New Window )
Tweedy visited the Giants earlier this month  
pganut : 4/27/2013 7:43 pm : link
Seems like he's a specials demon. Renya Thompson redux?
VT’s Special Teams Ace Alonzo Tweedy to Visit Giants - ( New Window )
Damn, Buff  
pganut : 4/27/2013 7:43 pm : link
Faster browser and typer than I!!
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sphinx : 4/27/2013 7:44 pm : link
04/17/2013 - 2013 NFL DRAFT: 124 FBS PROGRAMS, 124 POSSIBLE UNDRAFTED ROOKIE FREE AGENTS: VIRGINIA TECH: DB/LB Alonzo Tweedy (6-1, 197, 4.38)...Lined up as the "whip" linebacker on Virginia Tech's defense and might not have a natural spot in the NFL, but he might be able to stick due to his impact on special teams. - Dane Brugler, NFLDraftScout.com
More Alonzo Tweedy News

Here's the thread from last year if anyone is interested  
Optimus-NY : 4/27/2013 8:05 pm : link
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Archived Thread Official UDFA thread for players signing with Giants Matt in SGS : 4/28/2012 7:21 pm - ( New Window )
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sphinx : 4/27/2013 8:10 pm : link
Ralph Vacchiano ‏@RVacchianoNYDN 1m
Giants have 77 players on their roster and seven draft picks. That leaves room for 6 UDFAs. Total roster limit is 90 players.

Here are the best websites to find info:  
Optimus-NY : 4/27/2013 8:10 pm : link
http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2013-nfl-undrafted-free-agents

http://www.theredzone.org/NFLDraft/UndraftedFreeAgents.aspx

http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl


The first one is updated. The last two above are not. If anyone finds any updated/good websites with decent intel, please post it.
Tweedy?  
Gman11 : 4/27/2013 8:10 pm : link
I tawt I taw a puddy cat.
only 77 roster spots indeed  
Optimus-NY : 4/27/2013 8:13 pm : link
http://www.giants.com/team/roster.html

I've got 77 as well on my cap list. Add 6 picks, and the total is 84. Don't forget that the Giants may still go out and sign 1 or 2 veteran free agents. A LB like Karlos Dansby would make sense.
A number of the low level filler  
Mike in NY : 4/27/2013 8:15 pm : link
Could be cut as well and the draftees do not count until they are signed so you could see 10-15 today but some could be cut later on
hoping for Dewayne Cherrington, DT out of Mississippi St.  
Andy in Boston : 4/27/2013 8:16 pm : link
Robert Nunn went to his pro-day and he came up for a visit.
6'4 335 lbs. "The Dancing Bear" Would be another big body for camp and he could land on the Practice Squad for sure.
Was hoping for Kevin Reddick  
larglin : 4/27/2013 8:18 pm : link
but looks like the Saints got him
i thought  
BloodlustRevenge : 4/27/2013 8:18 pm : link
cherrington got drafted
The whip LB at VT  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/27/2013 8:21 pm : link
Translate to a STrong Safteyin te league. Tweedy had trouble staying healthy while at VT.
NFL Draft Bible  
sjnyfan : 4/27/2013 8:22 pm : link
has been doing a great job tweeting where everyone is going
Etienne Sabino  
AandPBBWC : 4/27/2013 8:25 pm : link
Ralph Vacchiano ‏@RVacchianoNYDN 1m

Ohio State LB Etienne Sabino ... UDFA ... RT @bino6 GMEN!!! #TIMEtoWORK
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CGiants07 : 4/27/2013 8:25 pm : link
Ralph Vacchiano ž@RVacchianoNYDN 59s
Ohio State LB Etienne Sabino ... UDFA ... RT @bino6 GMEN!!!
Etienne Sabino is Stu's guy  
Anakim : 4/27/2013 8:26 pm : link
Reunited with John Hankins
Brandon Johnon-Farrell  
sjnyfan : 4/27/2013 8:26 pm : link
is on the Giants radar. WR/KR from U of Rhode Island that is the school's all time leader in KR yards.
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sphinx : 4/27/2013 8:26 pm : link
Art Stapleton ‏@art_stapleton 2m
Ohio State linebacker and NY native Etienne Sabino as UDFA with #NYG

Everything should shift to need now:  
Optimus-NY : 4/27/2013 8:27 pm : link
Let's concentrate on the available players that fit a need.

What are those needs? Let's list them:

OLB
MLB
CB
WR
OT
TE
RB


We're going to be signing less than the usual amount of rookie undrafted free agents this year simply because of the amount of players already on the roster (77), including the 7 drafted free agents (84). The roster limit is 90, so we can expect 6 at most now.

If the Giants were to officially sign 6 rookie undrafted free agents tonight, then they'd have to cut someone from the roster if they were to go out and sign any veteran free agents later on this offseason.
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sphinx : 4/27/2013 8:28 pm : link
Though Sabino played in every game his first two years on campus, he couldn’t get much playing time on defense because of the team’s typical stable of veteran linebacker talent. He had six tackles in each of those seasons as a special teams ace, and returned a blocked punt 20 yards for a touchdown against Purdue in 2008. Sabino then decided to take a healthy redshirt for the 2010 season after losing out on the strong-side job to Andrew Sweat during the summer. Though he was in and out of the lineup as a junior (five starts in 13 games played), Sabino showed promise by making 62 tackles, 6.5 for loss, and two sacks. As a senior, Sabino broke his fibula, and only played in eight games. He managed 45 tackles (3.5 for loss) with two sacks and an interception.
ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS Well-built, athletic linebacker who plays on the strong side and in the middle. Fights through blocks in the hole, and is capable of using violent hands to shed and grab running backs. Brings a powerful punch to pulling guards and fullbacks in the run game, and is tough to keep out of the backfield on A-gap blitzes. Shows enough speed to flow with stretch plays outside to make the stop, and hustles to the ball when there’s any chance to make a play.
WEAKNESSES Lateral movement might be an issue if playing outside; he might not stay on the field in nickel situations unless he proves the short-area quickness to do so at the next level. Plays with a high pad level, failing to break down in the hole against quicker ballcarriers. Must get his hands up consistently when attacking blocks, whether on the edge or against running backs on blitzes. Underwhelming career.
NFL COMPARISON Na’il Diggs
BOTTOM LINE Sabino is versatile prospect capable of rushing the passer, handling tight ends, and holding the point as a strong side ‘backer and also works hard to plug holes when lined up inside. Sabino still has upside, but will need to prove he can play on special teams.
Here's our list so far:  
Optimus-NY : 4/27/2013 8:30 pm : link
LB, Etienne Sabino, Ohio State
i didnt think draft picks counted  
CGiants07 : 4/27/2013 8:32 pm : link
until signed
Optimus  
sphinx : 4/27/2013 8:33 pm : link
Tweedy?
Agreed, CGiants.  
yatqb : 4/27/2013 8:34 pm : link
We have plenty of room for UDFAs.
Chase Clement TE  
AandPBBWC : 4/27/2013 8:34 pm : link
Jenny Vrentas ‏@JennyVrentas 26s

LSU TE Chase Clement (@Chaseclement) tweets he's signing with Giants as UDFA. #nyg
Stu is on Cloud Nine right now.  
Klaatu : 4/27/2013 8:35 pm : link
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optimus we have the one from opening post as well tweedy  
CGiants07 : 4/27/2013 8:36 pm : link
Jenny Vrentas ž@JennyVrentas 41s
LSU TE Chase Clement (@Chaseclement) tweets he's signing with Giants as UDFA. #nyg
I don't think that's  
pjcas18 : 4/27/2013 8:37 pm : link
true CGiants, I thought Patti tweeted about this.

i believe unsigned draft picks counted on the 90 man roster from the day they're drafted - unless they get cut.

Here are 3 so far:  
Optimus-NY : 4/27/2013 8:38 pm : link
LB, Etienne Sabino, Ohio State
S/LB, Alonzo Tweedy, Virginia Tech
TE, Chase Clement, LSU
CB Charles James  
AandPBBWC : 4/27/2013 8:40 pm : link
Jenny Vrentas ‏@JennyVrentas 38s

Charleston Southern DB Charles James (@ShutDownCB1) also tweets he's signing with Giants as UDFA. He visited Giants. #nyg
From nfl.com  
pjcas18 : 4/27/2013 8:41 pm : link
Quote:
The 90-man roster will include active, inactive, practice-squad, exempt and reserve-list players. It also will house unsigned draft choices and franchise free agents, per Aiello.
we can cut other people  
Phil in LA : 4/27/2013 8:41 pm : link
if we want more room.
Clement is 6'5" and 265...  
Dunedin81 : 4/27/2013 8:41 pm : link
5 catches for 51 yards this last year, started the whole season. More of a blocker. Former DE.
Vrentas DB Charles James from Charleston Southern  
TheMick7 : 4/27/2013 8:41 pm : link
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Gotta love the confidence.....  
Wonderphil11 : 4/27/2013 8:42 pm : link
by James with that twitter handle...nice.
Here are 2 important posts to keep in mind from last years UDFA thread  
Optimus-NY : 4/27/2013 8:42 pm : link
Quote:
Here
eagles nut : 4/29/2012 11:08 am
http://www.csnwashington.com/football-washington-redskins/redskins-talk/League-increases-offseason-roster-size?blockID=695486

"NFL spokesman Greg Aiello just tweeted that the NFL will increase offseason rosters from 80 to 90 players, effective at 4 p.m. on Tuesday.

The move was discussed at the owners meetings last month but was tabled for later consideration. According to Aiello, the NFL Executive Council approved the measure today.

The increase is not as large as it may seem at first. With the 80-player limit, unsigned draft picks and some other players would not count against the limit. Under the new limit, the draft picks and others would count."


Quote:
From Greg Aiello, NFL PR guy
eagles nut : 4/29/2012 11:11 am
Greg Aiello ‏ @gregaiello

90-player limit will include active, inactive, practice squad, exempt, reserve lists, unsigned draft choices, franchise FAs.



Archived Thread Official UDFA thread for players signing with Giants Matt in SGS : 4/28/2012 7:21 pm - ( New Window )
Charles James  
AandPBBWC : 4/27/2013 8:43 pm : link
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NFL draft scout - ( New Window )
Thanks, guys. Sorry for my error.  
yatqb : 4/27/2013 8:43 pm : link
Of course, what Phil says is true; we can always cut from the bottom of our roster if we really like someone.
More on James  
Mike in NY : 4/27/2013 8:45 pm : link
Says he ran a 4.45
LINK - ( New Window )
We've got 4 so far:  
Optimus-NY : 4/27/2013 8:45 pm : link
LB, Etienne Sabino, Ohio State
S/LB, Alonzo Tweedy, Virginia Tech
TE, Chase Clement, LSU
DB, Charles James, Charleston Southern
Virginia Tech student here,  
M1KEM1KEM1KE : 4/27/2013 8:45 pm : link
Tweedy is a nutcase on special teams. Foster had him play both OLB, rover and some safety IIRC. Definitely a versatile player, hopefully we find a use for him
that must be relatively new as i remember in yrs past  
CGiants07 : 4/27/2013 8:46 pm : link
they didn't
Here are the rest of the players so far in the rest of the NFC East:  
Optimus-NY : 4/27/2013 8:49 pm : link
Dallas Cowboys
Brandon Magee, LB, ASU
Cam Lawrence, OLB, Miss State

Philadelphia Eagles
Russell Shepard, WR, LSU
Damion Square, DT, Alabama
Miguel Maysonet, RB, Stony Brook

Washington Redskins
Will Compton, LB, Nebraska
Jacoby Ashworth, OL, Houston

2013 NFL Undrafted Free Agents 2013 NFL Undrafted Free Agents Database - ( New Window )
Eagles got Maysonet  
Optimus-NY : 4/27/2013 8:51 pm : link
Now I can't root for him at all.
James I believe is also a KR  
Blue21 : 4/27/2013 8:51 pm : link
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yep...  
BigBlue22 : 4/27/2013 8:55 pm : link
I'm with you on that one optimus..... And the kid lives right up the road from me.
#5:  
Anakim : 4/27/2013 9:02 pm : link
Jenny Vrentas ‏@JennyVrentas 8s
RT: @UMUFootball: Mount Union LB Charles Dieuseul signed a free agent deal with the NY #Giants
BigBlue22  
Optimus-NY : 4/27/2013 9:02 pm : link
Yeah. Shame, lol.
5 alive:  
Optimus-NY : 4/27/2013 9:04 pm : link
LB, Etienne Sabino, Ohio State
S/LB, Alonzo Tweedy, Virginia Tech
TE, Chase Clement, LSU
DB, Charles James, Charleston Southern
LB, Charles Dieuseul, Mount Union

Odds are that we'll see one of these players make the 53-man active  
Optimus-NY : 4/27/2013 9:05 pm : link
roster. Last year, I think we only has one on the 53 man roster. Ojomo I believe.
Nice tape....  
Wonderphil11 : 4/27/2013 9:10 pm : link
very quick
Chuck Diesel - ( New Window )
Duke WR  
spider : 4/27/2013 9:10 pm : link
Would love to see them sign Conner Vernon from Duke ... both Eli & Peyton supposedly raved about him at their 'passing practice' last month.
Spider  
Anakim : 4/27/2013 9:14 pm : link
A) He's a Raider

B) This is for news only. Not for players you want
spider  
Optimus-NY : 4/27/2013 9:15 pm : link
Connor Vernon signed on with the Raiders.
Boy does he get to the  
Headhunter : 4/27/2013 9:16 pm : link
QB in a heartbeat
We should have a separate DISCUSSION thread for Rookie UDFAs.  
Optimus-NY : 4/27/2013 9:16 pm : link
If anyone wants to start it, feel free. This way we can keep the commentary and speculation separate from the news.
Still only these 5 so far:  
Optimus-NY : 4/27/2013 9:39 pm : link
LB, Etienne Sabino, Ohio State
S/LB, Alonzo Tweedy, Virginia Tech
TE, Chase Clement, LSU
DB, Charles James, Charleston Southern
LB, Charles Dieuseul, Mount Union
Optimus  
pjcas18 : 4/27/2013 9:44 pm : link
was Will Hill a UDFA last year?
Yes.  
Klaatu : 4/27/2013 9:47 pm : link
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Will Hill was a UDFA for the Redskins in 2011  
Mason : 4/27/2013 9:55 pm : link
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So what was he last year  
pjcas18 : 4/27/2013 9:55 pm : link
just a FA?
Technically Will Hill was a street free agent  
Optimus-NY : 4/27/2013 9:56 pm : link
His first year out of school he went undrafted and unsigned. He took the year off to get his act together. After that he recommitted himself and the Giants kept tabs on him until they signed him the year AFTER he came out of college.
If memory serves he was invited to Giants camp  
Mason : 4/27/2013 9:57 pm : link
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So...UFA, not UDFA. My bad.  
Klaatu : 4/27/2013 9:58 pm : link
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Holy shit.  
Beez : 4/27/2013 10:07 pm : link
Charles Dieuseul hits people like LT used to.

No. I am not saying he's the next LT. But watch the film. He explodes people. Sopeed and ferocity like you don't see in a linebacker every day.

Early call ... he makes the roster. Call it a hunch.
Here is a video  
YANKEE28 : 4/27/2013 10:07 pm : link
that Charles James did for NFL Draft Bible following his Pro Day.
Link - ( New Window )
Totally agree Beez.....  
Wonderphil11 : 4/27/2013 10:14 pm : link
this kid brings it no doubt!!
Looking at Dieuseul's Pro Day numbers  
Mike in NY : 4/27/2013 10:32 pm : link
Wow
LINK - ( New Window )
Got a few guys who are physically intriguing...  
Dunedin81 : 4/27/2013 10:33 pm : link
one or two of them may end up as backups and special teamers, but I wouldn't get hopes up too much.
More on Dieuseul  
Mike in NY : 4/27/2013 10:40 pm : link
Conference's most outstanding LB in 2012 after winning most outstanding DL in 2011
LINK - ( New Window )
Here is a  
YANKEE28 : 4/27/2013 10:40 pm : link
press release from Mount Union
Link - ( New Window )
Still these 5 so far:  
Optimus-NY : 4/27/2013 10:42 pm : link
LB, Etienne Sabino, Ohio State
S/LB, Alonzo Tweedy, Virginia Tech
TE, Chase Clement, LSU
DB, Charles James, Charleston Southern
LB, Charles Dieuseul, Mount Union
Charles James  
Jay in Toronto : 4/27/2013 10:43 pm : link
has done some punt returning
Like I said before. this website is great at finding out and listing  
Optimus-NY : 4/27/2013 10:47 pm : link
the Undrafted Rookie Free Agents.

Quote:
Dallas Cowboys:
Brandon Magee, LB, ASU
Cam Lawrence, OLB, Miss State


Philadelphia Eagles:
Russell Shepard, WR, LSU
Damion Square, DT, Alabama
Miguel Maysonet, RB, Stony Brook
Jake Knott, LB, Iowa State
Brad Wing, P, LSU
Matt Tobin, OL, Iowa’


Washington Redskins:
Will Compton, LB, Nebraska
Jacoby Ashworth, OL, Houston
Skye Dawson, WR, TCU


They've only got 2 of the Giants' 5 Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA) signings listed though.

nepatriotsdraft.com - 2013 NFL Undrafted Free Agents - ( New Window )
Love Charles james  
Spock : 4/27/2013 10:58 pm : link
This kid can play. Did you see those highlights ag FSU? Wow
Eagles  
old man : 4/27/2013 11:05 pm : link
have Shepard that ties a Square Knott into a Wing?
Wouldn't be surprised to see 2 of these guys make it to the  
Optimus-NY : 4/27/2013 11:06 pm : link
53 man roster. Giants have a need at TE and LB. Chase Clement and 1 of either Sabino or Dieuseul might actually have a decent shot at the roster. It wouldn't be surprising either if at least 3 of them make the practice squad.

Quote:
LB, Etienne Sabino, Ohio State
S/LB, Alonzo Tweedy, Virginia Tech
TE, Chase Clement, LSU
DB, Charles James, Charleston Southern
LB, Charles Dieuseul, Mount Union
As an FYI  
pjcas18 : 4/27/2013 11:14 pm : link
and sorry if this millers the thread, but this site shows how every teams roster was assembled for 2012 (draft picks, UFA's, street FA's college FA's, etc.)

The Giants roster for 2012 had 11 UDFA's (they consider Will Hill a UDFA).

2011 in particular had 5 UDFA's make the team and 4 saw time on the active roster:
Herzlich, Hynoski, Trattou, Paysinger, and Martin Parker
2012 NFL Rosters - How were they assembled - ( New Window )
Guys  
Pat from Inside Football : 4/27/2013 11:16 pm : link
Giants only have room for 6 UDFAs by our count. While it's possible they can cut guys to make room, don't expect them to sign a dozen or so players.
pjacs18 - thank you  
Optimus-NY : 4/27/2013 11:19 pm : link
great website. I haven't went there in a while, and forgot about it. Great stuff.
Hi Pattie  
Optimus-NY : 4/27/2013 11:21 pm : link
Figured as much. They've got 77 on the 90 man roster now. The addition of the drafted players, totaling 7, will increase that number to 84 (even though they don't officially count until they're signed, which won't be long from now). That would leave 6. Right now, we've reportedly got 5. 1 more to go maybe?
There's always the supplemental draft in mid-July to help  
Optimus-NY : 4/27/2013 11:23 pm : link
supplement the roster too, although it's historically doubtful that the Giants take anyone then. Last guy I can remember being drafted then is Safety, Tito Wooten---and of course Dave Brown before him in '92.
Optimus  
AnotherGiantsFan : 4/27/2013 11:27 pm : link
Do you know if there are any big names in the supplemental draft this year? If this is millering this thread, my apologies.
AnotherGiantsFan  
Optimus-NY : 4/27/2013 11:31 pm : link
Dunno.
Here are the 5 so far (in order of finding out on this thread):  
Optimus-NY : 4/27/2013 11:35 pm : link
S/LB, Alonzo Tweedy, Virginia Tech
LB, Etienne Sabino, Ohio State
TE, Chase Clement, LSU
DB, Charles James, Charleston Southern
LB, Charles Dieuseul, Mount Union


nepatriotsdraft.com updated their list after I sent in a comment to inform them of the other 3 players that we listed on this thread. See the link below.

nepatriotsdraft.com - 2013 NFL Undrafted Free Agents - UPDATED LIST - ( New Window )
do the draft picks  
Hades07 : 4/27/2013 11:45 pm : link
Count against the 90 before they sign their contract? If not they should have room for more than 6.
Hades  
Jay on the Island : 4/27/2013 11:51 pm : link
No they do not count until they sign their rookie contracts.
Hades - Jay is right  
Optimus-NY : 4/27/2013 11:53 pm : link
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I'm calling it a night fellas  
Optimus-NY : 4/27/2013 11:54 pm : link
This year's list looks to be shorter than last year's list. If anyone wants t take over the night shift, feel free, otherwise see you all (virtually speaking) in the morning. Peace, love, and chicken grease.
Here are the 5 UDFAs reported to have signed so far:  
Optimus-NY : 4/27/2013 11:56 pm : link
Quote:
S/LB, Alonzo Tweedy, Virginia Tech
LB, Etienne Sabino, Ohio State
TE, Chase Clement, LSU
DB, Charles James, Charleston Southern
LB, Charles Dieuseul, Mount Union
My Buddies Cousin  
The 12th Man : 4/28/2013 12:07 am : link
has signed with the Jets Chris Pantale TE Boston College.
One last thing:  
Optimus-NY : 4/28/2013 12:32 am : link
the National Football Post is keeping a running list as well, but not as up to date as nepatriotsdraft.com

We've also got them scooped, being that they only have 3 of the 5 signed UDFAs that the Giants have.

Getting to know your undrafted Free Agents - With the NFL Draft concluded, teams are racing to sign undrafted free agents. Here they are, along with scouting reports from Russ Lande. Erik Oehler - ( New Window )
The 12th Man - Congrats to him  
Optimus-NY : 4/28/2013 12:33 am : link
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the outside linebacker from Mount Union  
WeatherMan : 4/28/2013 12:44 am : link
has some rather impressive plays linked below. Good speed, works through traffic, effectively sheds blockers, follows the ball well, not getting fooled by option flips, and when he makes contact he wraps up and the ball carrier goes down, often with vicious power. Nice find Reese.
youtube link - ( New Window )
I was hoping the Giants would grab the TE from Maryland  
ZogZerg : 4/28/2013 6:54 am : link
He did very well at the combine. Oh well.
Jest checked the National Football post and their list is slightly  
ZogZerg : 4/28/2013 6:56 am : link
different
Quote:

Chase Clement, TE, LSU
Etienne Sabino, LB, Ohio State - SCOUTING REPORT
Alonzo Tweedy, S, Virginia Tech
Charles James, DB, Charleston Southern
Charles Dieuseul, LB Mount Union


They fave a LB from Ohio State.
Never mind  
ZogZerg : 4/28/2013 6:58 am : link
I guess the coffee hasn't kicked in yet. The Ohio State LBR is on the list. List looks the same.
Lindy's has Sabino ranked as the 21st Outside LB  
ZogZerg : 4/28/2013 7:04 am : link
He has a 6-7 round pick associated with him.
Quick write-up:
Quote:

STRENGTHS: Athletic Frame and flies all over the field with excellent range and the chase skills to catch ballcarriers from behind. Athletic blitzer and is at his best downhill, working hard to shed blocks with adequate strength and length.
... lacks instincts to start at next level, could be core special teams player...

Charles D  
Arcanum : 4/28/2013 7:13 am : link
Looks like he has some nastiness to him. I like what I seen from his highlight film.
He certainly hits people!  
Nomad Crow on the Madison : 4/28/2013 8:04 am : link
I like his form tackling and his nose for the ball. Does anyone have height/weight/speed numbers for him?
Answering my own question  
Nomad Crow on the Madison : 4/28/2013 8:08 am : link
6'0" 245lbs. No speed numbers.
Nomad  
Mike in NY : 4/28/2013 8:22 am : link
I posted a link that has his Pro Day numbers. You can get them from nfldraftscout.com
Just adding to what we all saw.  
Montreal Man : 4/28/2013 8:59 am : link
I agree with Beez. Dieusel (Sp?) reminded me of LT in the explosiveness of his contact. He was like a bullet coming in there. High hopes at this point. Wouldn't it be wonderful again to have a LB with that kind of attack power!?
Diesel's highlight video is very impressive  
Occam'sRazor : 4/28/2013 9:21 am : link
Sheds blocks well, moves fluidly around traffic and very impressive closing speed once he has the target infront of him... thats why his hits come with a good pop. Leveled the QB a few times. Good form tackling too.
There was a play in the first few minutes  
Montreal Man : 4/28/2013 9:29 am : link
where he leveled the QB, who fumbled, and another offensive guy picked it up and started running, and Diesel got up off the ground and caught him from behind before he even got to the LOS.
Here is a  
YANKEE28 : 4/28/2013 9:34 am : link
nice article on Charles Dieuseul. Nice comparison to the Colts Jerrell Freeman.
Link - ( New Window )
and another  
YANKEE28 : 4/28/2013 9:39 am : link
Charles Dieuseul article about choosing Mount Union.
Link - ( New Window )
obviously we are getting only 5 UDFA  
spike : 4/28/2013 9:41 am : link
instead of 6 is because we are going to sign a FA Linebacker!!

Dansby? Boley?
and last  
YANKEE28 : 4/28/2013 9:41 am : link
some better video of Dieuseul from the 2012 season
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Sorry  
YANKEE28 : 4/28/2013 9:42 am : link
Here is the video link
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so is he inside or outside ??  
Blue Blood : 4/28/2013 9:52 am : link
hmmm
good  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/28/2013 9:54 am : link
article on Sabino...
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good  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/28/2013 10:06 am : link
article on CB Charles James
Diamond in the Rough: Charles James, DB, Charleston Southern University - ( New Window )
DraftNasty on Charles James.  
Klaatu : 4/28/2013 10:23 am : link
Quote:
Time to get NASTY (Our Summary)...
Those who have not been exposed to James, are missing out on a special player. From a technique standpoint he is one of the most polished cornerbacks in this draft. For what he lacks in size, he has the confidence and the numbers to prove he's amongst the talk of second their corners in this draft. James' ability to read the three-step drop has earned him countless INTs and PBUs throughout his career. In addition, he has punt return ability to add to his impressive resume. Although the former Buccaneer gambling spree has payed off for him throughout his career, he needs to be cautious of receivers who possess quickness with their double moves. James reminds us of David Barrett, minus the long gear, when he was selected in the fourth round out of Arkansas in 2000. We believe James has that kind of worth in this year's draft.
From article  
ZogZerg : 4/28/2013 10:24 am : link
Sabino thought he would be drafted in rounds 3-5 and the writer thought it was unlikely that he wouldn't be drafted.
good  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/28/2013 10:31 am : link
article on Dieuseul
Mount Unionā€™s Dieuseul starts at LB, goes to DE, back to LB - ( New Window )
Here's what the entire NFC East has done so far in UDFA:  
Optimus-NY : 4/28/2013 11:44 am : link
Quote:
NFC East:

Dallas Cowboys:
Brandon Magee, LB, ASU
Cam Lawrence, OLB, Miss State
Taylor Reed, LB, SMU
Jakar Hamilton, SAF, South Carolina State
Dustin Harris, CB, Texas A&M
Kendial Lawrence, RB, Missouri
Greg Herd, WR, Eastern Washington
Devin Smith, CB, Wisconsin
Dalton Williams, QB, Akron
Paul Freedman, FB, Virginia
Jeff Heath, DB, Saginaw Valley
Brent Leonard, WR, ULM (Tryout)


New York Giants:
Alonzo Tweedy, LB/S, Virginia Tech
Etienne Sabino, LB, Ohio State
Chase Clement, TE LSU
Charles James, DB, Charleston Southern
Charles Dieuseul, LB Mount Union



Philadelphia Eagles:
Russell Shepard, WR, LSU
Damion Square, DT, Alabama
Miguel Maysonet, RB, Stony Brook
Jake Knott, LB, Iowa State
Brad Wing, P, LSU
Matt Tobin, OL, Iowa
Matt Evans, LB, UNH (Tryout)
Matthew Tucker, RB, TCU
Isaac Remington, DT, Oregon
Kyle Quinn, C, Arizona


Washington Redskins:
Will Compton, LB, Nebraska
Jacoby Ashworth, OL, Houston
Skye Dawson, WR, TCU
Josh Jarboe, WR, Arkansas State
T’Sharvin Bell, CB Auburn
Tevita Stevens, C, Utah
Jeremy Kimbrough, ILB, Appalachain State
Steve Greer, LB, Virginia (Tryout)


See the link below for the source.

nepatriotsdraft.com - 2013 NFL Undrafted Free Agents - UPDATED LIST - ( New Window )
UDFA count for the NFC East so far:  
Optimus-NY : 4/28/2013 11:47 am : link
Giants - 5
Cowboys - 12
Eagles - 10
Redskins - 8
Tweedy  
RB^2 : 4/28/2013 11:50 am : link
Looks like he was brought in to bolster special teams. If he's good, he'll probably bump Sash off the roster.
I doubt we carry 5 safeties  
chris r : 4/28/2013 11:57 am : link
I think Taylor, the dude from Pitt, Sash and Tweed are competing for one spot.
scratch that  
chris r : 4/28/2013 11:57 am : link
with Rolle's CB ability and our lack of depth there, we may keep 5.
The Cowboys  
Jon in NYC : 4/28/2013 11:58 am : link
really need to stop accumulating players from Wisconsin.
Jon in NYC - lol  
Optimus-NY : 4/28/2013 12:04 pm : link
.
I guess this is our final count (5) of UDFA:  
Optimus-NY : 4/28/2013 12:11 pm : link
S/LB, Alonzo Tweedy, Virginia Tech
LB, Etienne Sabino, Ohio State
TE, Chase Clement, LSU
DB, Charles James, Charleston Southern
LB, Charles Dieuseul, Mount Union


•We haven't heard/read about news of any other UDFA signings, so I guess the list above is it.
Actually I've been wondering about Devin Smith  
Jay in Toronto : 4/28/2013 12:11 pm : link
I believe he may still be developing and may have a higher ceiling.
I definitely  
Jon in NYC : 4/28/2013 12:13 pm : link
thought he was better than Cromartie, who ended up on the Chargers.
Entire list of best FAs available  
Spock : 4/28/2013 12:16 pm : link
and the Giants have none!!!!!!!!!!!!

How come?
best available agents - ( New Window )
ok  
chris r : 4/28/2013 12:17 pm : link
it may only be because he's got one of the best football names of all time and because we need an LB, but I'm optimistic about Charles Dieuseu.
Spock  
Mike in NY : 4/28/2013 12:21 pm : link
Because maybe the Giants did not think as highly about some of the names or were outbid or were not a desirable location. If you are a QB for example you are not making the Giants barring injury
Love how....  
Wonderphil11 : 4/28/2013 12:24 pm : link
"Chuck Diesel" explodes through a tackle....he's my official underdog pick for 2013...really hoping he can bring it on the next level.
Ralph originally posted Kenny Miles RB South Carolina  
TheMick7 : 4/28/2013 12:32 pm : link
was our 6th .Then his source told him it wasn't official,they were still talking. That was 2 hours ago..nothing since!
How many D3 players are  
nyynyg : 4/28/2013 12:40 pm : link
In the NFL?
TheMick7 - Thanks for the tip  
Optimus-NY : 4/28/2013 1:06 pm : link
I'll add him in tentatively.

Quote:
S/LB, Alonzo Tweedy, Virginia Tech
LB, Etienne Sabino, Ohio State
TE, Chase Clement, LSU
DB, Charles James, Charleston Southern
LB, Charles Dieuseul, Mount Union

RB, Kenny Miles, South Carolina - * Tentative*
Looks like the Ravens grabbed the TE from Maryland  
ZogZerg : 4/28/2013 1:29 pm : link
Matt Furstenburg (that I wanted).
.  
mort christenson : 4/28/2013 2:00 pm : link

Mike Loyko @NEPD_Loyko
Steve Demillio, OT, Gardner-Webb to the New York Giants. Confirmed Giant Fans.
Bring on  
Arcanum : 4/28/2013 2:04 pm : link
Dansby
what is the faqscination  
Gross Blau Oberst : 4/28/2013 2:17 pm : link
with bringing in a 31 year old linebacker? 5 years ago I would have agreed with that, not today.

Pass on Dansby.

Oh great  
Mike in NY : 4/28/2013 2:23 pm : link
A Redskins fan to join the 2 Eagles fans we drafted
Scouting reports I have seen look like camp fodder. Came to college as a DL then converted to OT but will likely move to OG and needs to put on some mass not to mention only 17 reps at his pro day but his 3 cone/SS weren't bad
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I'm not  
Arcanum : 4/28/2013 2:25 pm : link
Fascinated with Dansby, but i think he would be an upgrade/help for a year or 2.
..  
Ryan in Albany : 4/28/2013 2:43 pm : link
Aaron Wilson ‏@RavensInsider 10m
OL Steve Demilio (Severna Park) and his agent tell me he's still taking invite to Ravens minicamp. Report of him to Giants untrue, they say
Retweeted by Art Stapleton
ugh...the Saints grabbed both  
SHO'NUFF : 4/28/2013 3:01 pm : link
Reddick and Chase Thomas...at least give us one of those guys!
Guys:  
Optimus-NY : 4/28/2013 3:03 pm : link
Keep the Dansby talk OFF this thread please. It's for news only.

Don't mean to be rude. Let's just keep the thread uncluttered. IF you want to start a Dansby discussion or a discussion thread about UDFA, then by all means feel free to start one as I said yesterday. Thank you.
Here's a Discussion thread:  
Optimus-NY : 4/28/2013 3:22 pm : link
Post on the thread below if you want to talk about anything associated with the potential impact of these UDFAs with respect to the Giants' roster, or any other thing around the league.

UDFA - DISCUSSION Thread - ( New Window )
confirmation  
YANKEE28 : 4/28/2013 4:09 pm : link
from Charleston on James
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Maybe yea, maybe nay  
sphinx : 4/28/2013 4:18 pm : link

gamecocknation.net › ... › The Gamecock Nation Forums › Gamecock Nation
56 mins ago - 1 post - 1 author
Kenny Miles - posted in Gamecock Nation: According to our Mike Davis, Kenny Miles has signed with the Giants.
On question of whether unsigned draft picks count....  
eagles nut : 4/28/2013 4:29 pm : link
toward the 90-man roster limit maybe things have changed. Last year when move to 90-man roster limit was announced, Greg Aiello of the NFL tweeted this:

‏@gregaiello 23 Apr 12

90-player limit will include active, inactive, practice squad, exempt, reserve lists, unsigned draft choices, franchise FAs.

But now in response to a fan question -

‏@gregaiello 31m

No. RT @shlynch: @gregaiello Do unsigned draft picks count against a team's 90 man roster limit?

So either they've changed the rule within the past year or just Aiello is confused.

Not  
Jon in NYC : 4/28/2013 4:30 pm : link
trying to be malicious, but why don't you post on Eagles boards? Or maybe you do and just like getting our perspective as well?
Hate to say it  
eagles nut : 4/28/2013 4:36 pm : link
but you guys are more intelligent than the average Eagles fan(myself not included of course). There's some smart guys over at the kffl.com Eagles board, but the main board at the Eagles' official website is pretty worthless. Plus, there tend to be some asshats here that have actual inside info that you won't find elsewhere.
Got  
Jon in NYC : 4/28/2013 4:36 pm : link
it, thanks.
eagles nut  
Optimus-NY : 4/28/2013 4:43 pm : link
You're an intelligent and good poster. I cited what you said last year earlier in this thread as evidence of that. Glad you're on BBI (even if you do root for the Eagles, lol).
eaglesnut  
Optimus-NY : 4/28/2013 4:46 pm : link
That Aiello tweet is weird.

I'd wager that technically drafted players don't count on the 90-man roster until they're signed. Correct, or no?
So, right now, these are 6 UDFAs that the Giants have signed:  
Optimus-NY : 4/28/2013 4:50 pm : link
S/LB, Alonzo Tweedy, Virginia Tech
LB, Etienne Sabino, Ohio State
TE, Chase Clement, LSU
DB, Charles James, Charleston Southern
LB, Charles Dieuseul, Mount Union
RB, Kenny Miles, South Carolina
UDFA vs drafted players  
sphinx : 4/28/2013 4:51 pm : link
Is the confusion, I think

Its been  
YANKEE28 : 4/28/2013 4:52 pm : link
reported on Twitter that Virginia Tech WR Marcus Davis has joined David Wilson and Jayron Holsley. Can't verify anywhere else
Davis  
Jon in NYC : 4/28/2013 4:53 pm : link
is one of those athletic freaks. 6'3 233, 4.5 40, 40 inch vertical.
...  
Jon in NYC : 4/28/2013 4:54 pm : link
VT Football ‏@VT_Football 20m
Marcus Davis confirms via text to us that he has indeed signed a FA deal with the Giants. Congrats!
Davis is still out there according to Gil Brandt's list below:  
Optimus-NY : 4/28/2013 4:56 pm : link
Top undrafted rookies following 2013 NFL Draft

That would make sense, considering the fact that he's listed as unsigned on that list, and that the Giants have a need at WR (competition for that 6th WR position on the depth chart).
Good work Jon - I just let the folks at newpatriotsdraft know too.  
Optimus-NY : 4/28/2013 5:02 pm : link
Here's our updated list for the Giants:

S/LB, Alonzo Tweedy, Virginia Tech
LB, Etienne Sabino, Ohio State
TE, Chase Clement, LSU
DB, Charles James, Charleston Southern
LB, Charles Dieuseul, Mount Union
RB, Kenny Miles, South Carolina
WR, Marcus Davis, Virginia Tech

Thanks  
Jon in NYC : 4/28/2013 5:04 pm : link
man. I'm just the Raymond Felton to your Carmelo Anthony.
In addition to drafting guys from the same school  
Mike in NY : 4/28/2013 5:04 pm : link
We take undrafted FA's who were college teammates (Davis and Tweedy bird)
lol Jon  
Optimus-NY : 4/28/2013 5:05 pm : link
.
Would be happier...  
Dunedin81 : 4/28/2013 5:15 pm : link
if we didn't cluster draft/sign prospects from my school's arch-rival.
how many open spots  
Bleedin Blue : 4/28/2013 5:17 pm : link
does that leave us with now?? 3 or 4???
Bleedin Blue - I don't think that the draft picks count against the 90  
Optimus-NY : 4/28/2013 5:22 pm : link
man roster until they're actually signed. Right now, the Giants have 77 players listed as being officially on their roster.

Giants roster
Davis is actually a very nice get...  
Dunedin81 : 4/28/2013 5:24 pm : link
pretty much a prototypical size-speed combo. Built like a light TE, speed and agility of a much smaller man. Yards per this year was over 18. Has some work ethic questions, willingness to block and to run out plays when he isn't getting the ball, but if he can harness it he has a shot to be a solid contributor.
...  
Jon in NYC : 4/28/2013 5:25 pm : link
RVacchianoNYDN
RT @gregaiello After further review, unsigned draft choices DO count on roster. Change was made when roster limit went from 80 to 90.
less than 1 minute ago in reply to gregaiello from HootSuite
Thanks  
Bleedin Blue : 4/28/2013 5:26 pm : link
for the clarification
Jon in NYC - thanks  
Optimus-NY : 4/28/2013 5:27 pm : link
That's an important bit of information. That means that we add the 7 Giants draft picks from these past few days to the 77 players already on the roster, leaving us with a total f 84 players on the 90 man roster. That leaves 6 open spots.
6 spots...  
Dunedin81 : 4/28/2013 5:29 pm : link
but they'll have some non-roster invites and they'll probably end up cutting one or two of them.
optimus  
nygirlie : 4/28/2013 5:31 pm : link
ummm...we seem to be one over the limit?
Dunedin81 - exactly  
Optimus-NY : 4/28/2013 5:34 pm : link
.

nygirlie - See Dundedin81's post above yours.
optimus  
nygirlie : 4/28/2013 5:38 pm : link
but if we signed 7, we are over the 90 limit right now if no one has been let go?
No guarantee we "signed" all of them...  
Dunedin81 : 4/28/2013 5:39 pm : link
one or two of them might just have been invited to minicamp without being formally signed (non-roster invites).
nygirlie - Dunedin81 just answered your question  
Optimus-NY : 4/28/2013 5:45 pm : link
they're not necessarily officially signed, which is what non-roster invitees are.
Draft Choices  
Samiam : 4/28/2013 5:58 pm : link
Since none have been signed, are they part of the total number?
Davis  
Big Blue Hokie : 4/28/2013 5:58 pm : link
Davis has a ton of skill but as Dune mentioned he needs motivation. Plus he was part of one of the worst offensive coaching staffs in College Football. I think his best days are ahead of him.
Dunedin  
nygirlie : 4/28/2013 6:04 pm : link
got it. thanx.
Davis looks like the highest rated one of the bunch  
jeff57 : 4/28/2013 6:17 pm : link
.
Etienne Sabino is from NYC, so you know he's psyched....  
Stu : 4/28/2013 6:49 pm : link
Good luck to all the UDFAs!
Great news  
bob in tx : 4/28/2013 7:06 pm : link
Stu
bob  
Stu : 4/28/2013 7:21 pm : link
It's not often in sports and sometimes never that as a fan you really get something you had been hoping for.
Sorry if it was  
Bino5 : 4/28/2013 7:57 pm : link
but was Jeremy Wright from Louisville reported already?
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Bino5 - It wasn't reported. Thanks!  
Optimus-NY : 4/28/2013 8:16 pm : link
Our list is now swells to 8:

S/LB, Alonzo Tweedy, Virginia Tech
LB, Etienne Sabino, Ohio State
TE, Chase Clement, LSU
DB, Charles James, Charleston Southern
LB, Charles Dieuseul, Mount Union
RB, Kenny Miles, South Carolina
WR, Marcus Davis, Virginia Tech
RB, Jeremy Wright, Louisville

Great News,  
Danbury Joe : 4/28/2013 9:55 pm : link
Marcus Davis is the one player I had slated for us to pick in the 7th round. Now hearing he was picked us a UDFA is totally awesome, guy has awesome tools just needs to get his head on straight, what better place to get his head straight as within big blue's locker room. I think he can complete and win the last WR spot leaving Jernigan as a cut casualty.

Anyone else have any insight on Davis?
Ralph V  
YANKEE28 : 4/28/2013 10:35 pm : link
reporting that Marcus Davis got a $15,000 signing bonus from Giants. That is about the tops they have paid an UDFA.

Did Charles James have a visit with the team prior the draft?  
Riggies : 4/28/2013 11:02 pm : link
That name rings a bell... I feel like I might have seen something about it on Twitter, but I can't find anything.
Miles is going to sign with the Redskins NOT the Giants:  
Optimus-NY : 4/29/2013 11:23 am : link
Quote:
Nope. Signs with Washington
jeff57 : 11:07 am
Ralph Vacchiano ž@RVacchianoNYDN 36s South Carolina RB Kenny Miles did NOT sign with the Giants, per his agent. He's headed to Redskins rookie camp instead. #NYG

Source: Giants Reportedly Also Signed RB Kenny Miles | Eric from BBI : 10:06 am


The Giants' total is back down to 7 UDFA:

S/LB, Alonzo Tweedy, Virginia Tech
LB, Etienne Sabino, Ohio State
TE, Chase Clement, LSU
DB, Charles James, Charleston Southern
LB, Charles Dieuseul, Mount Union
WR, Marcus Davis, Virginia Tech
RB, Jeremy Wright, Louisville
RB Jeremy Wright  
BloodlustRevenge : 4/29/2013 11:37 am : link
Louisville vs North Carolina

RUSHING - 20 Attempts, 114 Yards, 1 TD
RECEIVING - 4 Receptions, 20 Yards
...  
BloodlustRevenge : 4/29/2013 11:38 am : link
I love the M. Davis pickup!
RB Jeremy Wright  
BloodlustRevenge : 4/29/2013 11:46 am : link
#21 Louisville vs #3 Florida (2013 Sugar Bowl)


RUSHING - 25 Attempts, 84 Yards (3.36 Avg), 1 TD
RECEIVING - 3 Receptions, 19 Yards
Rookie camp tryouts  
jeff57 : 4/30/2013 11:22 am : link
Ralph Vacchiano ž@RVacchianoNYDN

Three more reported tryouts for the Giants rookie camp, May 10-11: Citadel P Cass Couey, Ball State G Kitt O’Brien, UMass S Darren Thellen.
where they are at  
kelsto811 : 4/30/2013 11:39 am : link
So is Clement  
gel : 4/30/2013 12:17 pm : link
Pope's super-secret sleeper TE?
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