BigBlueInteractive.com will be hosting a live chat session with former Giants' running back Tiki Barber on June 6. The live chat session will appear via Google Hangout on the BBI front page.
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Back then we all thought the world of him, and I still have the t-shirt he signed for me somewhere in the house. heck for a long while it was framed on the wall. shame he hurt his own legacy with the way he ended things with the Giants.
Questions:
Tiki was once THE most popular Giant among the fans. He was so popular, he had his own personal autograph line on the way back to the lockers in training camp. He pissed all of that away -- not by his performance on the field, but by his personality off the field. And then took a flame thrower to his broadcasting career.
He hired an PR firm to help remake his image. That didn't work. He tried to come back to the NFL, and there were no takers. Given all that, my first question would be
What do you hope to achieve by doing this interview? (Assuming BBI didn't seek it out -- what is his agenda?)
Given that we live in the era of the Eliott Spitzers, Anthony Weiners, Mark Sanfords and such, where a mournful public apology and time will forgive pretty much any transgression, I might also ask:
If a public apology to the Giants fans -- saying he acted like an ass -- would make things better with the fans, would he consider it?
(My bet is he's more like Bachmann and will double-down on stupid, but it would be interesting to hear his answer)
What's the biggest thing he's learned since leaving football?
How do you enjoy being one of the most hated giants in this era of football?
If you could go back in time how would you change things? Or do you enjoy enjoy being an asshole?
The question you will not ask:
How does it feel to thought of as an asshole by the whole fuckin' world...?
My question is basic: When you came out on Sunday Night Football and slammed Eli's leadership, did you do it to make a splash for yourself or were you trying to give Eli a kick in the butt?
What was the toughest obstacle in your career (mentally, emotionally or physically) that a casual fan may not understand?
On a personal note as a die hard Giants fan - thank you for your years of service to Big Blue, the wonderful memories such as the KC game in 2005 and how you evolved to be a dynamic threat as both a runner with excellent vision and a reliable pass-catching threat.
Don't get me wrong - a lot of the stuff that Tiki said/wrote rubbed me the wrong way just like a lot of other people, so I'm not dismissing outright the perception they have of Tiki. Just that we don't know the whole story, only what we've seen on TV/the web, and I'm sure he might think there are things we don't know that would somehow equalize those opinions somewhat.
Also, why does he come over as such a condescending prick?
Or was it just a matter of you getting your chance, and you always felt that you not only competed, but actually performed at an elite level?
-If you could change the way you announced you retirement, would you have waited till the off season instead of the way you did it?
If you could do it all over again, what would you do differently...both as a Giant and in your post-Giant life?
(My guess is that Tiki will say that he wouldn't change a thing...then try to blame his "troubles" on anyone or anything but himself.)
2. What is the proudest moment of your Giants' career?
3. What current NFL running back most reminds you of yourself?
You've stated that you detested getting hit. Where did you draw the line between protecting yourself and staying on the field, and fighting for an extra yard and taking additional hits?
You here and read about players saying once they shut it down its hard to get back into a game.
Once you decided to shut your football career down how hard was it to play week in week out. Do you think it cost the giants from doing more knowing you were playing out the string?
How hard is it for a professional football player to ramp it up after hanging them up? Why so you think it can or cannot be done based on different types of players / positions?
2. (Assuming he already answered the question above about Wilson), How do you assess the Bradshaw/Jacobs years? Obviously the team won two Super Bowls during that span, but the Giants had become more of a passing team by then. If you're the GM/coach and had to choose between the two which one woud it be and why?
3. With more emphasis these days on head injuries and attempts to prevent them, how do you think this will effect the future of football and if your sons want to play, will you let them?
I'd want to ask him if he would rather have played a different position (like CB) where the wear and year may have been less.
Degenerate gambler and drug addict, yes, Sexual predator, no. Besides, I thought he beat the rap on that (either acquitted, charges dropped to pleaded down to something else)?
and
Do you still have the alligator suit or was that a rental?
2) Does he regret leaving when he did (team won the SB the next season, obviously)?
3) He played his whole career in NY, but in his eyes, how does playing in NY differ from other cities?
4) Are his critics being unfair to him? If so, how?
also, I fondly remember that great game you had against Kansas City right around Christmas. I was at a Christmas party but sat in a room with a few oher guys watching you dominate the Chiefs. Thank you!
He had a famous/infamous game against Philly where he racked up huge yards, but fumbled like 4 times. Philly almost ended it - and our playoff hopes - with a FG and Tiki was in tears as they lined up. What was going through his head? Then they missed and he got another chance, what was he thinking as he went back out? (And did this inspire the fumbling plot in he and Ronde's 'Teammates' kids book?)
Also I would like to know why he was so rude to me on twitter the other week.
when i think about him,i remember sitting in the stadium
and every time he touched the ball there was anticipation that he was going to make a big play,and so many times he did.
So my question is simply in light of that, and the common success the two of you shared as a player/coach, why couldn't that relationship work?
And a follow up to that if there is time. Now looking back on it, is there anything you would have done differently with regards to that relationship while you were a player? (I don't really care about what was said after you moved on).
My questions for Tiki would be:
Does he think that the personal issues he faced with his public divorce colors the fan's perspective of him?
Also, specifically his comments about Eli's speech (that were called "comical" at times), do you think that Eli was still learning to lead at that time, and he was trying to motivate his teammates in a way he wasn't comfortable with? Or did you mean that content of his comments were "comical"?
Thanks Tiki. As one of the few Ring of Honor players I had the chance to grow up watching, I appreciate the years you gave the Giants.
Tiki, in hindsight was there anything the Giants could have done to change the outcome of the Superbowl vs the Ravens? Or do you feel the Ravens just were the better team?
As for mister barber himsel, I want to say thank you for all the sunday afternoons I enjoyed for years watching him play, and for how you honored Wellengton Mara, and how you saved Coughlins Job, and how, on so very many Sundays, you seemed to be the only one who showed Up.
A few questions I would ask, is
1)Did your decision to retire reflect a personal belief that if you did not, that you might end up the way we all know Ahmad bradshaw is goin to be, walking with a cane when he is 45?Was it your belief that TC would drove you till you broke, and then some?
2)We aren't going to ask if you regret retiring, because a competitor such as yourself would of course question if he mad the right choice to retire as he watched his former teamates win the Super bowl.Are you at peace with that decision, and could you tell us how you felt after the Giants won the super bowl, both for them, and for yourself as a person?
3)Do you feel that playing so hard and so prominently through so many down years, and carrying the team on your back at times made you the face of the team to an extent that it made it hard for Eli to emerge?Do you feel like the departure of dominant personalities like yourself and Shockey from that looker room facilitated Eli emerging as a championship player?
4)Do you think Hubris is an issue in your life, either on a personal level, or as a factor in your relationship with the NY fans?
5)Understanding that you are an honest person, and speak without filters at times, Can you, here and now, apoligize to the fans, to Tom Coughlin, and to Eli manning,without qualifying it, so we can all move on and appreciate you for what you did for the NY Giants for so many years, as a true warrior on the field, and display some character for us in accordance with the principles that makes a player a Giant, so that we can welcome you back as a giant, and do you even care?
2. What are your plans for the future? Do you plan to stay in the New York area?
3. Have you reached out to Eli Manning at all, especially after his 2 Superbowl MVP awards, to apologize for calling his leadership skills "comical" and/or to congratulate him? Do you consider him an "Elite" QB now?
Tiki, you had an amazing career with the Giants that fans will never forget. You have been very close with the Mara family. Since you retired the relationship between you, the Giants, and the fans has been strained. We have always heard the mantra "Once a Giant, always a Giant." Can you tell us about your relationship with the Giants organization today, and do you still think of yourself not only as an ex-Giant, but a part of the Giant family?
What is your opinion on the rules which have been implemented since your retirement protecting players from concussions? Do you feel it has helped or hurt the league? Would your style of play have changed at all? How do you expect the newest rule preventing running backs from intentionally initiating contact with the crown of their helmet outside the tackle box to impact the sport?
I greatly respect your willingness to come on here and answer questions knowing some will be tough. Thanks for your answer and best of luck.
Abandoning your pregnant wife doesn't engender fond memories of you either. On the field you were great...off it you're a sad man.
1. Do you regret any of the comments you made re: Eli, Coughlin, etc. once your football career ended?
2. Do you think you could have handled your transition from player to to broadcasting in a more professional manner? If so, how?
3. How is your current relationship with the Giants organization and its members?
4. While time heals all wounds, do you think there's anything you can do to repair your relationship with Giants fans?
Tiki was one of the greatest offensive players in Giants history. Some of the things he did and said were simply inappropriate but I hope he can repair his relationship with the organization and its fans and can be given the respect that he earned during his playing days.
2) What is wrong with UVA football? Are you still connected to the program?
3) Any thoughts on coaching?
And pics or gtfo, obviously.
Why do you think Ron Dayne didn't enjoy any long term success with the team and in the NFL? Because of weaknesses in his game or other circumstances (like not having many oppurtunities for an example)?
Both Head Coaches you played under, Fassel and Coughlin, were known as offensive-minded coaches...which offense did you enjoy playing under the most?
And the last one for me is, specifically HOW were the Giants 'outcoached' in the playoff loss to the Panthers in your opinion.
Thanks!
Don't get me wrong, I don't really care what LT did off the field because I don't like to put these guys on a pedestal to begin with. Just kick ass on the field for my Giants and I really couldn't care less what you do off the field, as long as they don't get thrown out the league or paint themselves as a monster. Guys like Eli are gravy. The Giants have enough easy guys to root for that one or two nut jobs doesn't really get me too worked up.
The whole Tiki NYG fan relationship is just an amazing case study to me. I honestly think Tiki just has a face and disposition that people love to hate. Life is a popularity contest and Tiki just comes off as easy to dislike at times. Look past what you think you see and really try to analyze what the guy did with true objectivity. He really didn't do anything at all other than question the way Eli speaks as a leader. OK he "announced" his retirement early in the season. That's not abnormal at all. Strahan also said 2007 was his last year before even playing one game that year. Yet here we are, SIX years later and fans still love to hate the guy. It's because fans want to hate Tiki.
If LT said the same thing about Eli back in 2007 people would not look at him the same way they look at Tiki. I really believe that. And I think each and everyone in this thread knows this is true.
"Sorry I hurt your feelings?"
Giants fans show more love for a cokehead who was involved in a sexual assault case than a player who went to school on an academic scholarship, was already pretty damn well spoken, and had a bit of an arrogant side to him (like 90% of NFL players)
You can spin it any way you want to spin it but it's clear that people love to hate certain individuals while giving others a pass.
Tiki showed bad timing. Nothing more. Nothing less. If Tiki said the same things and Eli went on to regress in 2007-2008, people would be saying Tiki was right all along. He was ahead of the curve...etc etc. The minute Eli hit Plax in the back of the EZ in supe 42, Tiki became a fun guy to hate on. Mob mentality.
I'm sorry. But when someone gives LT a pass and then completely blasts Tiki because he said something about Eli? Even in a calculated manner? I think that's a double standard. I think it's easy for people to rake on Tiki. And I think the evidence clearly supports this. People are actually bringing up the guy's private life like he's the only guy to get a divorce while conveniently looking the other way on LT's transgressions.
Just admit it, you like ragging on Tiki because everyone else does and Tiki comes off as smug and arrogant. What he's done off the field pales in comparison to some other former NY stars that are held in extremely high regard around here. Yet Tiki is public enemy #1. It makes no sense yet it makes perfect sense. Freud would have a field day with this one.
We don't even know what goes on in a locker room. Half the guys we adore could be coach killing bask stabbing team wreckers but they never attach their name to anything concrete. They hide behind the locker room veil.
How is Tiki's behavior any worse than JR Smith's behavior DURING A PLAYOFF SERIES??
I promise you right now that a story could be printed proving that JR Smith was up until 4 a.m. the day before a 2 pm playoff game start getting loaded on Martinis and the guy would get cheered before game 1 next season. Anyone here want to doubt that? Anyone here want to try convincing me that JR's behavior and play did not directly lead to the Knicks losing a playoff series? The ironic thing is Tiki's comments about Eli actually may have galvanized the Giants in 2007. Strahan even stated this as fact. But Tiki gets booed at every stop while JR Smith does not. JR Shit all over the Knicks in May. Shit all over the team the fans and the city of NY. Give that guy a contract.
Explain that.
Also, an apology wouldn't hurt. He has made excuses like it was taken out of context and people made more out of it than it was rather than owning up to the fact that making those statements was wrong, apologizing and moving on.
I have made peace with it after being extremely angry with him and now feel it is time for him to come back into the Giant fold and become the icon he should have been. But there are some steps he can take to get the fans back on his side that he has not yet taken. Coming on to the forum like this one is a great start. He has some repairing to do.
I didn't say there wasn't a difference. What I said was one act was much more detrimental to a team while the other act was 100% NOT detrimental to the team. As a matter of fact, in retrospect, Tiki's comments could be looked at as galvanizing. Strahan even acknowledged this.
LT got suspended for partying too much. Cost the Giants games in the win/loss column. Tiki said some stuff that that allowed Eli to show some fight that won over the locker room. Comments, by the way, that many fans and writers shared.
Tiki did nothing to warrant the hate he's received from the fans in the town. What happened here was a perfect storm of the mob mentality going after a guy that was easy to hate.
If you put 10 of the most over paid and underachieving NY athletes on a stage along with Tiki Barber, take a while guess on who gets booed the longest and loudest. Tell those same fans that the other 10 athletes all admitted that they didn't prepare or work as hard as they should have and I still say that Tiki ets booed the longest. Tell me I am wrong and tell me that this is not insane.
This thread was about Tiki, not LT, JR, or anyone else. Is the result of what they did better or worse than Tiki, I don't care (at least knot in the context to Tiki). What I do care about is the intent behind what they did was different. Tiki is a jerk for doing what he did. LT is an addict and a screw up, but he never sold purposefully sold out his teammates
Anyone want to guess which guy gets booed the loudest?
Anyone want to tell me that this is nothing short of ridiculous?
Tiki carried an offense to a super bowl in 2000. He is by far the best RB in franchise history. He helped the Giants beat the Cowboys and Eagles and Skins in a time when the Giants were struggling on offense. From 2000-2006 there was not a better player the Giants offense. He probably helped saved Coughlin's job in 2005-2006. He said some things about Coughlin that pissed people off but virtually EVERY player under this regime has echoed the same comments and many feel that the minute Coughlin changes his attitude the climate around the team improved dramatically.
The whole Tiki backlash thing is a phenomenon that stemmed from a perfect storm of circumstances. It's not hard to see why fans like hating on Tiki. He's an easy mark. But Make no bones about it, I can rattle off 20-30 former NY athletes and coaches that were far more detrimental to their teams over the past 15 years. And people wouldn't boo them with nearly the same amount of passion and vitriol. Matter of fact they'd probably cheer them on.
Tiki was in the wrong place at the wrong time and there is no doubt that he comes off as smug and arrogant and I have no doubts that what he said was meant to generate buzz and attention. He was certainly looking to get his name in lights but I do think he was being honest.
You can disagree if you like. I'm not one of these on BBI who call people idiots if they disagree.
Tiki said things. Said stupid things that added up to nothing more than water cooler gossip. HE said shit that was honest and quite frankly, true. Other athletes in this town have done things that directly torpedoed the team's chance at a championship. You can tell yourself that what Tiki said was worse, but you're mistaken. It wasn't. And history has proven that Tiki's comments did nothing but help the Giants win super bowls.
If it was bad advice, do you feel as if your media handlers used you as a dupe to drive short-term traffic to their venues? Were you pressured to take the controversial stand?
What do you feel are the pros and cons of today's players commenting / opining on teammates active contract negotiations?
Now that your brother has retired, are you two looking at starting a joint venture of some kind?
Do you have a favorite charitable organization that you endorse / participate with since retiring from football?
1)Do you understand Tiki is currently trying to make a living by marketing his celebrity?
2)Do you understand that a great many Giants fans resent, or dislike Tiki Barber?
3) Do you understand this unpopularity makes him an unappealing booking, that potential clients view him as a poor draw , and this is affecting his ability to attain work?
4) Do you understand that to change that situation, he has to change the dynamic between himself and the general public, specifically the NY giant fan base? ( I doubt he has many potential clients in Denver)
5) Lastly, do you understand that Tiki and his handlers have chosen this forum to accomplish that?
If he wants to change the dynamic between the fans and himself, then he MUST address their issues.
WHAT their issues are, as far as I can see that needs to be adressed for him to achieve his ends are two-fold.
Disloyalty and Hubris.
First, his perceived disloyalty i.e., " Throwing his teamates and coach under the bus", stabbing them in the back", being an "ingrate for the best years of his career under TC",etc.
WHAT was his specific disloyalty? Showing a lack of respect for Eli , and showing open resentment for Tom Coughlin during the interview. These are the 2 points normal people are gonna wanna see adressed, or " apologized for".Tactically,if he doesnt, he wont change opinions and he will fall short of his goals.The problem he has, if he does anything other than apologize, it will be spun as self justification, and he will end up worse of than if he never agreed to the interview.
HOW he needs to do that is his own business. If he leaves it to his handlers he will come off as insincere, I think he needs to be genuine and honest, and if it is I think it will be accepted by those willing to accept it. I think he needs to apologize for not showing his team leader proper respect, that maybe he might say he misjudged his leadership abilities and that was his failing.His Coments on Coughlin seemed to many to be malicious, and that is a bit harder to address.I think Barber had genuine resentment for Coughlin at the time, and it showed in his interview.His feelings may have been valid, but to air them in that format was unprofessional and self serving. If he owned up to it it may go some way tom addressing his other issue, which is his percieved Hubris.I honestly can't say HOW he should address that, but his self contented attitude post interview gave many Giants fans the impression he didnt give a shit about fan loyalty or how he was perceived. He came of as "Ok I've moved on to bigger and better things, and Fuck the NY Giants and their fans.
I think it's as big an issue as it is because in reality, he was adored.He was respected, hH was liked.He was worshipped, pracrically, and in many cases actually.Understand the emotional investment many fans had in him. Sure, a vegas bookie or a casual fan doesnt really care, but to the poeple who looked forard to that one day a week, for years, and that one guy that couldnt wait to watch do great thinks, yes, it was hurtful.Tiki deprived us of our hero, himself. This is his greatest offense, really.
What was your favorite play to run?
Other than Giant Stadium, where was you favorite place to play? Where was your least favorite, and why?
The toughest teammate you ever played with?
The best locker room practical joke you ever witnessed?
I know some fans still feel hurt about your comments about the Giants but I want to know how about your teamates. Do you still have a relationship with any of your teamates? Can you name some of your close friends from your Giants teamates? Do you still get together with any of them?
Who had the biggest positive affect on your career? Elaborate?
Who had the biggest negative affect on your career? Elaborate?
Why do you think it took 4-6 years before you became the starter on the Giants?
2. What was the cause of the four picks against Baltimore? Did Fassel not have the offense prepared as Toomer suggests?
3. Do you consider Gilbride's offense to be particularly complex from a passing/pass protection perspective?
Good luck to Tiki in his endeavors. Giants fans owe him respect... he never did wrong by us. It's football, not some goddamned reality show.
My questions:
Was he thinking that no problem existed or just confident he could mend the problems on his own?
When TC took over as head coach and Tikis fumbling rate got way better did he back off from his original stand and except outside help? And if so what motivated the change in attitude?
2) How would you have felt and reacted if a former teammate made comparable comments about you early in your career?
3) How would you have reacted if you we're still on the team in 2007, Strahan retired, and made the same comments as you?
4) if you could script the next 5 years of your life, how would it go?
5) If you could only give one player on the current team one piece of advice on their game, what would it be?
Given the propensity of younger players to mess up off the field and attract a large group of previously unknown friends with their new-found wealth, what is your advice on how players should prepare for the sudden influx of wealth and prestige, beyond what they even saw in college? Do you think that living in a major media market such as NYC, with other significant celebrities, is actually a benefit to younger players, as they are not immediately in the spotlight as much as in other towns?
Thanks for all your great football!
I thought that after some pretty tough football and career related questions it might be nice to pick his brain where he always seemed to be pushing the trends in fitness.
Who was your favorite offensive lineman to play with?
Would you say that having seniority over Eli made you think less of him as a leader? I know Eli mentioned that dynamic when he was starting out.
What do you like and dislike about Fassel's offense and Coughlin's?
ZogZerg : 12:35 pm
Tiki, do you think, like many on BBI, that it was the BBI trophy that derailed both your Giants legacy and post football career, and your life in general? Have you shattered that trophy yet?
First I just want to say thanks for all the great years of running for the Giants; you were always a pleasure to watch and never ceased to amaze.
My question to you is this: Was it a poignant moment for you and do you have any regrets to have seen the Giants go on to win the superbowl the year after you retired...knowing that you could have been a part of that team?
John Sudarsky
Did he root for the Giants during the last two Super Bowl wins?
What Giants memorabilia does he still own/cherish?
Why not just buck up, say you were wrong for saying some of the things you said to the media after you retired, say you're sorry and move on?
Thanks for some incredible memories, Tiki. All my best...
For example, the Giants were a better team in 2008 than they were in 2007, but luck wasn't on their side that year.
Obviously Tiki you were a great Giant and a favorite of many. Always talented but like many of us with flaws yet you showed that with hard work and focus, we can overcome our flaws and go from good to great...inspiring to say the least.
That in mind, obviously much of that good will changed shortly after you left the Giants.
And with that in mind..
What is your understanding of Giants fans animosity toward you since you retired ? What are your thoughts on why this is/was the case ?
2)In the first few seasons with the Giants, when you struggled at times and battled injuries, did you feel that all you needed was health and a chance to play more? Or did those bumps tell you that you needed to make some changes in order to become the player you knew you could be?
3)Finally, in retrospect, which win means the most to you? 33-28 over FSU? 41-0 over the Vikings? 36-0 over the Skins? A different game?
As someone who was in the stands (and one of the first on the field afterwards!) on November 2, 1995, thank you for over a decade of thrills and memories. I always felt lucky to have seen my favorite college player become the greatest of all time for my favorite pro team. Wahoowa!