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The annual NFL.com "Giants won't make the playoffs" article

Mayhap : 7/16/2013 12:48 pm
Now the offseason is complete...
Why the Giants are worse off than you think - ( New Window )
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Remember, the Giants thrive on articles like this.  
Reese's Pieces : 7/16/2013 8:40 pm : link
Hopefully the Giants will be really disrespected when the predictions start coming out. That might even get the attention of Tuck.

I think that Tuck is one of the keys to this season. If he plays at Pro Bowl level then JPP and the whole defensive line will play inspired football. If he flops, especially in his contract year, then he is through and the Giants will have to start rebuilding their defense, first by playing their youngsters, under someone not named Fewell.
Chicago  
Go Terps : 7/16/2013 9:05 pm : link
What you seem to be describing...a team that should win 12 games but wins 9...is not inconsistency. It's underachieving. In 6 years the Giants have been a consistent 8-10 win team with one outlier (12-4 in 2008). Those are pretty consistent results.

I wouldn't call this team inconsistent...and I also wouldn't call them an underachiever. An expectation of 11-12 wins year to year is, IMO, an unreasonable expectation if that's the mentality of the fans. The only team that has managed that consistently the past few years is New England, and I'd argue a big reason for that is incompetence in the rest of their division.

And New England has turned that consistency into 0 titles since 2005. Not a situation I find preferable to ours.
This guy is a hater  
ZoneXDOA : 7/17/2013 12:39 am : link
Every year he takes whatever shits he can against the G-Men. He is definitely a fan of one of our rivals. Or a Pats Fan. Not sure. But I have definitely read similar articles from this douche.
Fuck this guy...  
Damon : 7/17/2013 12:52 am : link
In the ear...
Lets be realistic  
Paulie Walnuts : 7/17/2013 8:48 am : link
we have a lot of question marks this time of year and we have that every year. In the modern NFL, you build a team every year and you hope it comes together

If the Defense and the running game improve only slightly, we can slide in to the playoffs

Washington is on the assent and we need to play that run option offense better on defense
The Giants coaching staff is one of the best at breaking down teams and what they do and adjusting to it the next time we play them, I expect that to happen again..

I will take my chances and as long as we have Eli, we have a good chance
I think our Oline will be improved  
Randy in CT : 7/17/2013 8:56 am : link
and the center of our defense should be much better.

Giants 12-4.
Here is the thing about these kind of articles  
UberAlias : 7/17/2013 10:18 am : link
Everyone knows the details -how a team did the year before, what they did in free agency, who is returning from injury, etc.

The art is not in listing the information, but in the processing and in interpretation of it. For example, he looks at the RG3 situation and instead of interpreting it as, he is a question mark as he is recovering from injury (negative consideration), he dismisses it as non-factor (he will be back by week 1: non-issue).

I read this guy and don't get any sense he has any feel for this team. He choses the facts that supports his position and lays them out. He sprinkles in a few pleasantries so as to not come off as a hater, but let's be honest, this boob is not going to be giving this team any benefit of the doubt in any year.
I love how Philly is a "great unknown"  
UberAlias : 7/17/2013 10:23 am : link
Yet we are a known: we aren't making it, and both Dallas and Washington are well established as improved and better than us.
didnt upgrade the defence?  
msh : 7/17/2013 1:02 pm : link
im happy that they are flyng under the radar again they seam to play better when everybody writes them off

i can see manning winning number 3 this year,this draft has the touch of 2007 about it to me ,and the unique chance to win a superbowl in thier own stadium is also an extra lure.

11-5 or 12-4 beating the niners in the championship game and a possible manning bowl to boot anybody????
vibe...re: your first post on this thread...  
rnargi : 7/17/2013 1:15 pm : link
Stop it. Of course we're supposed to be outraged. They were right 75% of the time, but that means nothing. Seriously, WTF does NFL.com know about football? (sarcasm off)
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BrettNYG10 : 7/17/2013 1:32 pm : link
NFL.com often produces mediocre written content. While their conclusion is reasonable in this case, their reasoning and analysis is quite weak.
The guy who doesn't love the Giants as much as I love the Giants  
vibe4giants : 7/17/2013 1:32 pm : link
is biased!!! And biased people never know what they're talking about!!!!
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BrettNYG10 : 7/17/2013 1:38 pm : link
And I think Jenkins is an underrated signing, which will have a trickle down effect on the rest of our D. We had really poor DT play last year, IMO.
joesph wasnt poor  
msh : 7/17/2013 1:46 pm : link
whoever they put beside him all year was thou plus they had osi ignoring any run defence to get his own bonus money up (and even failing to do that) plus a sub par tuck and an ailing jpp wasnt a good year all round for the DL

hankins,moore and jenkins plus another year back for austin = much better DL this year plus the moved kiwi back to his natural position again which also upgades the DL
Msh  
BrettNYG10 : 7/17/2013 1:50 pm : link
I like Joseph and think his play was impaired due to the rest of the line. I agree with your post. Overall, the line wasn't particularly good and as the main driver of our defense, it hurt a lot.
Aim, Fire  
UberAlias : 7/17/2013 1:50 pm : link
Miss.

That's what this article amounts to.
The way I see it  
AnishPatel : 7/18/2013 9:29 am : link
is we are the known quantity and that makes us ahead of everyone else. We have stability and guys are healthy now. Eagles are in the middle of an era of change. Dallas changed systems which takes time to adjust especially if you're DC is 120 years old. And Bob is coming back from injury and the rdsskjns defense, like ours wasn't that good. Still better than our 31st overall but the QBs health is a question mark.

So its a no brainer that because of the stability and lack of major injuries that wed be the number 1 in our division.
AnishPatel  
BigBlueinChicago : 7/18/2013 9:32 am : link
As you mentioned, all is correct.

That's part of the reason Las Vegas Sportsbooks have installed the Giants as favorites to win the NFC East, albeit slight.
Well it should.  
AnishPatel : 7/18/2013 10:07 am : link
Stability counts a lot and we have it while the Eagles and Dallas don't. Dallas has a new system and have to see if their guys can fit that system. On offense, we have to examine how their play calling issues sort itself out.

That's a lot of new stuff going on only surpassed by the Eagles who changed it all. Redskins are stable but their fracnise QB is a major question mark.

We should be ranked 1 in our division just based on the stuff above. Sure our older players need to play better and our defense is piss poor. But let's see how they do this year with all the DT additions. Let's see how the draft class contributes.

Our issues aren't that major to have us not be ranked # 1.
Alot of things are in our favor Anish  
BigBlueinChicago : 7/18/2013 3:11 pm : link
I feel.

One of them being the possibility of the "close games" stat turning in our favor this season.

In '11, they had a great record in games 7 points or less. That reverted back last year as things didn't go out way. So maybe we get it back in our favor this year.

BTW bro, I ended up doing the video of the Giants defense of 30+ yards we talked about a few weeks ago since it was part of a project at my work. As it turned out, some stuff wasn't as terrible as I would've thought. It just wasn't kind to Webster though.
That's the thing  
AnishPatel : 7/18/2013 4:32 pm : link
that was 2011, and last year it didn't go well because of injuries and our defense sucked across the board. We could do well again in close games, or if our defense sucks yet again, then we may lose close games.

So I am not sure what to make of that side of the ball until I see the new DTs, and defense play. I don't expect much from Fewell. So I am taking a wait and see approach.
As long as they stay relatively healthy..  
Sean in PA : 7/18/2013 11:21 pm : link
they will be in the thick of things which they have been for every Coughlin led team aside from 04.
Here's the deal  
montanagiant : 7/18/2013 11:46 pm : link
We could back into the playoffs with a 9 win season, and every other single team no matter their record, Will be worried to have to plays us.

That is a great thing for us fans
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