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Cruz thought he took less money to stay with Giants

Militarygman : 7/16/2013 7:30 pm
I was going to get my kid a Cruz jersey but will look for other options. He already has a Tuck Jersey I was thinking maybe a Wilson Jersey


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Britt in VA : 7/17/2013 12:02 pm : link
Where all opinions and thoughts are equal and accepted!
Britt, only except when topics are deemed controversial  
David in LA : 7/17/2013 12:04 pm : link
entire threads get deleted on the account of a stupid post here and there. It's selectively over policed over here, while dumb shits get carte blanche to post whatever they want.
Cruz did take less money to stay  
JonC : 7/17/2013 12:04 pm : link
Giants had the leverage, he wanted to stay so he compromised.

Percentages would've been in his favor to land a contract similar to Harvin, had he been a UFA.

I get the calls for maturity etc but the fact is pro athletes live in a different world than average joe. Their perspective and comments tend to reflect that. It's a waste of time complaining about it.
These contracts are also not about the "money"  
Ash : 7/17/2013 12:09 pm : link
per se. What I mean is that most of these players probably understand that getting paid 40 million over five years versus being paid 50 million over 5 years isn't going to make an appreciable difference in quality of life (save the Latrell Sprewell exceptions). How much they're paid is often a proxy for how much respect they feel they deserve; that's why it's telling that Cruz mentions other players who he thinks he's just as good as if not better than being paid more than him as a relevant factor. Insofar as he's concerned, it's an issue of fairness. Why should he be paid less for work that's just as good as others' work?

There are obviously numerous ways of responding to him that involve invoking things like leverage, supply and demand, alternate forms of renumeration, and even the base fact that ultimately they're still being paid exceptionally well. But I think framing the issue in the terms present above is a helpful way of thinking about it.
What leads you believe that he's due for a drop in production  
Sonic Youth : 7/17/2013 12:09 pm : link
or an injury? The fact he sent out a tweet that hurt your pwecious fweelings? Seriously, please, back it up, I'm sure all of BBI would love to see it.
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Modus Operandi : 7/17/2013 12:22 pm : link
Cruz had better spend less fiddling the dames and more time focusing on football. Yessum.
BSIMatt  
santacruzom : 7/17/2013 1:02 pm : link
Exactly! I mean, I haven't heard the interview myself, but my imagination is decent enough to consider that these quotes were responses to a very specific question. Maybe even as specific as: "Is it kind of tough to know that your contract isn't quite the same as it would have been if you were a true free agent?"

People act like Cruz was overheard muttering these remarks while nursing a whiskey within the dark confines of a shoddy downtown bar, whilst some delta blues played faintly in the background.
and yeah  
santacruzom : 7/17/2013 1:05 pm : link
If Cruz had been taking negotiating lessons from Eli Manning, this negotiation would either still be in progress, or it would have resulted in a 60 million dollar contract.
Aces  
santacruzom : 7/17/2013 1:09 pm : link
Quote:
so you would prefer cliches and platitudes?


Yes, they'd certainly prefer clichés and platitudes.

Not to generalize too much, but something tells me that the sort of person who finds fault with Cruz merely based on these quotes presented in a vacuum is the exact sort of person who extrapolates a shitload of meaning out of clichés and platitudes, and probably brandishes some on his shirts, posters, or the bumper of his car.
Was Cruz  
BJ Slade : 7/17/2013 1:22 pm : link
wearing a Cowboys hat when he said this? Because that would just put me over the edge.
I can see why Cruz feels that way.  
ZogZerg : 7/17/2013 1:22 pm : link
But, to me, this was a FAIR deal for both sides.

Cruz is setting himself to be bashed by fans if he doesn't have a big year this year.
I'm starting to wonder  
santacruzom : 7/17/2013 1:49 pm : link
about the whole "playing in New York is worth an additional 1 million in marketing" thing. Wouldn't that advantage rely upon a fan base and populace that isn't so sensitive and fickle?
Guys Guys. BBI is just getting trolled today.  
Sly Guy : 7/17/2013 1:52 pm : link
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...I think...
Ungrateful  
ronzo : 7/17/2013 2:28 pm : link
A lot more than 6.00/hr you probably would be getting at Burger King if you didn't play football
seriously  
GMenLTS : 7/17/2013 2:48 pm : link
how did this thread manage to continuing breeding stupid post after stupid post?
LTS  
lalalalala : 7/17/2013 4:00 pm : link

because BBI has alot of stupid posters? and now they've been encouraged to be stupid?
So....  
Modus Operandi : 7/17/2013 4:05 pm : link
After earning a four year degree from UConn, his only options were playing football and/or flipping burgers at Burger King.

And what do you do for a living ronzo?
UConn?  
YAJ2112 : 7/17/2013 4:08 pm : link
?
This thread  
NYBEN : 7/17/2013 4:11 pm : link
really makes me miss the "Fire Gilbride" threads. Though we should get those by the end of the first quarter of the first preseason game.
Can we please be dicks to stupid posters again?  
David in LA : 7/17/2013 4:23 pm : link
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Quote  
Ten Ton Hammer : 7/17/2013 4:26 pm : link
Quote:
omeone call the Jets
jcn56 : 8:03 pm
and tell them we've got a container full of fans they can have, no cost to them.
sorry, brain fart  
Modus Operandi : 7/17/2013 4:27 pm : link
Obviously Umass
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