Sure, we were ranked 31. The Redskins were ranked a mighty 28. The gave up 6 fewer yards per game than we did. They were ranked 22nd in points allowed to our 12th. They gave up 3 more points per game than we did. Would you really have us surrender 3 more points a game just so we could give up 6 fewer yards and raise out "Ranking" to 28? We would have to give up 4 turnovers as we had 35 takeaways (3rd) to their 31 (in a 3 way tie for 5th). We'd also have to give back as sack as we had one more of them too.
The NFC East all play tough against each other....
Washington will be the team to beat until the Pistol can be figured out....but road will be tougher now that they can not sneak up on anyone.
Philly is hard to figure out.....could really be a factor if OL comes together....and the new coaches deliver on the hype.
Dallas will be a disappointment. I see them getting worse not better....lost depth. I do not think Personal match up well for a 3-4.
I feel the Giants have the best personal...If corners play well. If OL gels...The Offense can be special...with a ton of firepower, but I question our defensive leadership
That's a fair look at it. However, with all that we were still ranked 31st. Sure they sucked too. Personally, this then becomes a debate on who sucks the most. LOL. Both were shit shows across the board with our total defense being 1 step from dead last. That's pretty god awful. They are too and mainly coasting on the Bob hype and winning the division. Say what you want about them, they managed to win their division deciding game. Even with a bad defense they won the division. That's how our division works. You never know what odd things can happen.
Dallas - loads of talent the will win between 8 and 10 games.
Philly - will start fast with their new O, but once teams adjust they will come back down. 7 wins.
Washington - they gained confidence last year with or without RGIII they are a 9 win team.
They were a solid team a year ago, but nothing special. The return of Orakpo doesn't make this into a great team. Their D was so bad, perhaps he can help make it respectable. On offense they majorly lack in talent at the skills positions. They will be in the mix.
Dallas is what they are every year and no reason to assume they will be any different. They will compete.
Philly could probably won't be the pushover some expect. Their offense has a lot of talent (Oline was the big weakness last year could be a strength now) but may be inconsistent due to the QB position. Their D was really bad, but remains to be seen what the new staff brings.
I think all four should be in the mix. The possible exception would be Philly pending on how things play out but even in that case should cause headaches in the division. And if they respond to the new coach, they may be very much in the mix.
If RGIII plays the way he did before he was hurt, the 'Skins could be dominant. Giants could be, too, and are just as Eli-dependent as Washington is on RGIII-- with more tools than the 'Skins have. So these two ought to fight it out for top spot, with the Giants winning out, absent disabling injuries to key players. Do we ever get through a season without one or two of those? Doing that would be a welcome change.
with the winner decided by health or lack off. I don't get the Skins love. They are the Parthers part duex. Cam is going to be unstoppable.... How'd that turn out. Everything had to break right for them last year and this year they have a first place schedule and won't be catching teams off guard. I can't decide who will finish last, Eagles or Skins but it should be close.
I know this is a Giants fan site, but I'm still constantly amazed just how biased the views of BBI fans are ... from reading this thread, one would think Washington was 0-16 last year - not the Division winning team that kicked the crap out of the Giants.
I live and breath the Giants - but they are going to find it very difficult to avoid last place in the division ... best thing going for the Giants is that they only have to play Andy Reid once this year.
Even more than most.
1. how is Bob and can he hold up?
2. will Kelly's offense really take off or will it have growing pains?
3. Can Romo hook up with Bryant as consistantly as Eli has done with various receivers?
I believe in today's NFL the QB/receiver combo is the primary key to victories. Defense sure is important but having the offense that gets it done can hide a poor D.
I think the Skins have 9 wins in them. I believe the Eagles will struggle a bit but still have 7 wins.
Dallas? Doesn't seem like much has changed outside of a new defense. I'd expect 6 wins from them unless Romo/Bryant are on the same page all the time (meaning deep ball).
Dallas will continue its decline. Jones, Garrett and Kiffin do not scare me. 8-8
Philly will improve over last year; how much remains to be seen. Harbaugh made a hugh difference in SF in one year; can Kelly do the same? I think they will be better; probably / hopefully not better than 7-9.
Wash is tough to gauge. RG3's health and durability are obviously keys. The whole league has had a year to review him on tape. I don't see them repeating last year's success. Maybe a wild card team.
The Giants will rebound; 11-5 and will win the division.
will win the division i cant see any of the other teams in the division getting that many.
eagles and cowboys 7-9/8-8 at best
the redskins need rg3 to make a petterson like recovery if they want a shot at 10 wins,i expect a sophmore slump from RG3 too that will cost them a couple of wins too think 9-7 at best there if rg3 goes down early watch the wheels come off them altogether
the giants should be 10-6 or 11-5 maybe even 12-4 but i think the lower the better the giants do better flying under the radar than when people expect them to win
out of the giants the skins lost game 1 to the giants and won the second game on fluke fumble recovery turned into a TD to win
please talk sense they played us hard because the defence was a mess that made RG3 look better than he was,we still havent seen how he recovered from that injury that was alot more serious than people gave credit for
I see the skins as a 7-9 win team.
The Cowboys 8-10 wins.
The Eagles will stink, 6-7 wins.
So basically, whoever stays healthy, gets it all together, can win and be a 3-4 seed with 9-10 wins total.
Unless somehow somebody puts it all together, but I doubt it.
Giants biggest opponent will be their inept linebackers.
Philly is hard to figure out.....could really be a factor if OL comes together....and the new coaches deliver on the hype.
Dallas will be a disappointment. I see them getting worse not better....lost depth. I do not think Personal match up well for a 3-4.
I feel the Giants have the best personal...If corners play well. If OL gels...The Offense can be special...with a ton of firepower, but I question our defensive leadership
Philly - will start fast with their new O, but once teams adjust they will come back down. 7 wins.
Washington - they gained confidence last year with or without RGIII they are a 9 win team.
Dallas is what they are every year and no reason to assume they will be any different. They will compete.
Philly could probably won't be the pushover some expect. Their offense has a lot of talent (Oline was the big weakness last year could be a strength now) but may be inconsistent due to the QB position. Their D was really bad, but remains to be seen what the new staff brings.
I think all four should be in the mix. The possible exception would be Philly pending on how things play out but even in that case should cause headaches in the division. And if they respond to the new coach, they may be very much in the mix.
I live and breath the Giants - but they are going to find it very difficult to avoid last place in the division ... best thing going for the Giants is that they only have to play Andy Reid once this year.
1. how is Bob and can he hold up?
2. will Kelly's offense really take off or will it have growing pains?
3. Can Romo hook up with Bryant as consistantly as Eli has done with various receivers?
I believe in today's NFL the QB/receiver combo is the primary key to victories. Defense sure is important but having the offense that gets it done can hide a poor D.
I think the Skins have 9 wins in them. I believe the Eagles will struggle a bit but still have 7 wins.
Dallas? Doesn't seem like much has changed outside of a new defense. I'd expect 6 wins from them unless Romo/Bryant are on the same page all the time (meaning deep ball).
Philly will improve over last year; how much remains to be seen. Harbaugh made a hugh difference in SF in one year; can Kelly do the same? I think they will be better; probably / hopefully not better than 7-9.
Wash is tough to gauge. RG3's health and durability are obviously keys. The whole league has had a year to review him on tape. I don't see them repeating last year's success. Maybe a wild card team.
The Giants will rebound; 11-5 and will win the division.
eagles and cowboys 7-9/8-8 at best
the redskins need rg3 to make a petterson like recovery if they want a shot at 10 wins,i expect a sophmore slump from RG3 too that will cost them a couple of wins too think 9-7 at best there if rg3 goes down early watch the wheels come off them altogether
the giants should be 10-6 or 11-5 maybe even 12-4 but i think the lower the better the giants do better flying under the radar than when people expect them to win
please talk sense they played us hard because the defence was a mess that made RG3 look better than he was,we still havent seen how he recovered from that injury that was alot more serious than people gave credit for
The Cowboys 8-10 wins.
The Eagles will stink, 6-7 wins.
So basically, whoever stays healthy, gets it all together, can win and be a 3-4 seed with 9-10 wins total.
Unless somehow somebody puts it all together, but I doubt it.
Giants biggest opponent will be their inept linebackers.